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Post by scrappinheather on Jul 6, 2020 5:35:21 GMT
I don’t post a lot but I read a lot and I learn from all these threads. The threads should reflect reality if life bug issues abd small. I appreciate learning about political issues to talking about names for pets. I like the variety of topics and learning from people to help me have different perspectives.
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Post by koontz on Jul 6, 2020 10:21:23 GMT
I don’t post a lot but I read a lot and I learn from all these threads. The threads should reflect reality if life bug issues abd small. I appreciate learning about political issues to talking about names for pets. I like the variety of topics and learning from people to help me have different perspectives.
I like it here. I only recently started posting (more) after reading for many years. I posted one personal dilemma once and whilst I found some of the responses painful, I realised it was because they were correct and probably what I needed to hear. I really appreciated that women who had never met me took the time to type a often very thoughtful response and that really helped me. I like to read and learn from the political threads but I generally don`t participate because I don`t live in the US.
I remember reading a thread about the Netherlands many years ago, following a totally ridiculous article about euthanasia here (no, we don`t kill our babies and elderly  ) and realised that the press in other countries may not always present an accurate reflection of what is going on in a country. So I prefer to stay out of those threads in general, and really enjoy learning and participating in the 'lighter' threads.
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Post by elaine on Jul 6, 2020 11:06:49 GMT
I don’t post a lot but I read a lot and I learn from all these threads. The threads should reflect reality if life bug issues abd small. I appreciate learning about political issues to talking about names for pets. I like the variety of topics and learning from people to help me have different perspectives.
I like it here. I only recently started posting (more) after reading for many years. I posted one personal dilemma once and whilst I found some of the responses painful, I realised it was because they were correct and probably what I needed to hear. I really appreciated that women who had never met me took the time to type a often very thoughtful response and that really helped me. I like to read and learn from the political threads but I generally don`t participate because I don`t live in the US.
I remember reading a thread about the Netherlands many years ago, following a totally ridiculous article about euthanasia here (no, we don`t kill our babies and elderly ) and realised that the press in other countries may not always present an accurate reflection of what is going on in a country. So I prefer to stay out of those threads in general, and really enjoy learning and participating in the 'lighter' threads.
I would love to hear more about life and culture in the Netherlands! Some of my favorite threads include ones where those that live in the UK, Australia, France, Norway and Morocco share what is going on in their countries about a topic, or about local foods, or the entertaining “how do you pronounce” threads. I look forward to reading more posts from you.  |
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Post by scrappintoee on Jul 6, 2020 12:28:46 GMT
This has been an EXTREMELY interesting thread !!! I appreciate everyone's input---lots of things to think about !!! I would LOVE to hear from Sanctimommy !   |
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Post by luvnlifelady on Jul 6, 2020 12:38:46 GMT
But wrong according to whom? Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion you do on a subject doesn't mean they are wrong. You don't know their background/current situation so telling they are wrong (and therefore you are right) seems rather pompous IMO. I think the very very bottom line here is that racism is wrong. This is a universal truth. This is probably the point at which if you disagree with that statement (and good Lord, I hope you don't--you meaning the general you), you should probably just scroll on by. We on 2 Peas who are largely white and middle class, find ourselves in the middle of a sudden explosion of a movement. Lots of information is coming at us rapidly from many directions with the BLM movement. Because of this, I've had to step back, assess this information, and decide what my position is, so I know where I'm going, and how I want to proceed. (Now I'm going to pause right here and state that this very sentence I just wrote is an example someone might give as white privilege, and I acknowledge that.) So I said to myself: what are my very basic beliefs about my one brief life on this earth? I don't know that this is an exhaustive list, but three are: 1. Human beings, a group I belong to, have total autonomy over the bodies they have been given to walk this life with. I personally take this further to say that this includes whether I have created a life inside it or not. 2. I have total responsibility for taking care of this one body (which includes its brain/mind) in the best way I know how. 3. A huge part of my journey here in this one life is to try to make the world a better place. And I believe this is true regardless of what stage of growth you're in. One person's job might be to work to move beyond issues of childhood abuse so as not to transfer unhealthy behavior patterns to their own children. Another might be to implement systems which bring clean water to countries that lack it. So operating from this very basic place, I field all this rapidly incoming information. Things like by virtue of being white, I have white privilege. Like I have a hand in perpetuating systemic racism, even though my ancestors didn't come to this country until long after the Civil War, and they were Jews escaping persecution in eastern Europe. Like before now, I have not spoken out publicly against racism (outside this board). I take it in, absorb it, explore how I feel about it and act. (white privilege again) And here is where it gets complicated. I may be told that I am not doing it "right" or "quickly enough" or "failing" in some other way by someone else's standards. This may even venture into an area where that someone else tries to put me in a double-bind, e.g. "You're a racist, you need to change, but you're not doing it according to my standards." The double bind is a concept I learned as part of my training as a family therapist defined as a "dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, with one negating the other. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma, and therefore can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation." Double binds make people feel crazy and defeated and like giving up. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. So when I read that I should be "farther along", that I should have been speaking out about racism last year or five years ago or 20 years ago, I tell myself, "Yes, you're right, I wish I had been healthy enough to be a better person." I then remind myself that I have this one body/mind for me to take care of and I was. I was getting me healthy enough so I would then be able to look outward and see what work needed to be done to make the world a better place. I am just at the dawning of this new stage in my life, and I view myself (uh oh, another white privilege statement coming) as a kind of a toddler trying to walk. Would I intentionally trip a toddler trying to learn to walk? White people who are truly open to honestly dealing with the systemic racism in this country must be willing to face unpleasant truths, accept culpability in this system, but not to the detriment of their own mental health and development. Wow, very well said. My daughter told me about the slogan "White Silence Equals Violence." I'm not buying into that. We all can only do what we can do and nobody really knows what the other may be doing to further racial relations. As you stated, if we are not doing it to someone else's standards, then we are called out for being racist and not caring. Not a good way to go. |
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Post by luvnlifelady on Jul 6, 2020 12:42:55 GMT
But wrong according to whom? Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion you do on a subject doesn't mean they are wrong. You don't know their background/current situation so telling they are wrong (and therefore you are right) seems rather pompous IMO. Do you believe there are any universal rights and wrongs? Or is everything dependent upon one's own experiences? There are some absolute rights or wrongs but those could vary widely depending on people's perspectives. Some might think death penalty is an absolute wrong while others may think otherwise. Racism is a hot topic right now but even then, there's going to be some disparity on opinions depending on the exact subject involved. |
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Post by luvnlifelady on Jul 6, 2020 12:44:23 GMT
I didn't read the harsh comments flung my way recently (having to do with race of my birth) but a couple Peas private messaged me apologizing for the attack that I got. What's the purpose of being mean-spirited? Nobody knows what a person has endured on here in their real life. You are right...and I owe you and apology for some of the comments I made to you.... Wow, I very much appreciate that. Thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 13:52:19 GMT
Racism is a hot topic right now but even then, there's going to be some disparity on opinions depending on the exact subject involved. But, you do agree that at its very bottom line racism is wrong? That really can't be argued away as a disparity of opinion, which is what it appears you're trying to do. |
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 6, 2020 13:57:17 GMT
This place is nothing like the old board. Wow, some of the shit that went down on the old board was jaw dropping. I will also say the behavior on this board is no different than anywhere else right now. Whether it's NextDoor, IG or FB. My God, I'm in some cookie groups (COOKIE GROUPS) on FB that have just gotten down right nasty. Cookie groups! It's to the point that I'm stepping away. I've done that here as well. I typically read daily but when it becomes too much for me, that it's impacting my mental health, I step away. I don't have anyone blocked but there are users that I scroll right by. I learn a lot here and, for the post part, love the interaction.
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Post by msladibug on Jul 6, 2020 14:05:20 GMT
I think, like in life you reap what you sow. And I also think if you are looking for something bad, good, or indifferent you will find it. If threads get judgy or hateful I move along. I’ve learned a lot from the peas, have had my mind opened and my perspective challenged. I’m not going to give that up over a few bad apples. I’ve seen amazing generosity here too. |
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 6, 2020 14:23:47 GMT
Do you believe there are any universal rights and wrongs? Or is everything dependent upon one's own experiences? There are some absolute rights or wrongs but those could vary widely depending on people's perspectives. Some might think death penalty is an absolute wrong while others may think otherwise. Racism is a hot topic right now but even then, there's going to be some disparity on opinions depending on the exact subject involved. I think that there can be discrepancy when certain things are labeled racist, about the right and wrong of those things. The only example I can think of is when white people were called out for cultural appropriation for wearing large hoop earrings (really bad example that doesn’t exactly illustrate my point). But bottom line, it is always wrong to hate a person based solely on the color of their skin/their physical appearance and to want those people to not have the same choices and opportunities that “you” are afforded because “you” believe yourself to be better than people different from you. |
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Post by busy on Jul 6, 2020 14:30:49 GMT
Do you believe there are any universal rights and wrongs? Or is everything dependent upon one's own experiences? There are some absolute rights or wrongs but those could vary widely depending on people's perspectives. Some might think death penalty is an absolute wrong while others may think otherwise. If they vary based on perspective, by definition they are not absolute. |
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Post by msladibug on Jul 6, 2020 14:30:50 GMT
You think parsnips are delicious? Well you're just wrong. You need to educate yourself about parsnips. If you think parsnips are delicious then you just don't get it. I used to like parsnips and then I got a clue. I saw on another thread that you like parsnips so even though in this thread we are talking about liking kittens, fuck you parsnip lover. You always make these parsnip threads all about you. For you to say you love parsnips tells me that you know absolutely nothing about parsnips. You don't know all about the history of parsnips? I feel sorry for you. 6 months ago you posted about not liking parsnips. Now you say you like them. Which is it? You can't have it both ways. Everybody I know who likes parsnips is a pedophile. Just saying. God, are we talking about parsnips AGAIN? If you want to know about parsnips, do a search on the board. Or with google. it's not hard. Don't expect us to have to educate you about parsnips, that's not our job. I've never heard anyone use the word "eat parsnips". Is that even a thing? You called "eat parsnips" a word. It's actually a phrase. You're both wrong. "eat parsnips" is a sentence fragment.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 14:56:48 GMT
 Perfect! I’d add the “I need the last word about parsnips” posts that go back and forth for several pages.
I’ve enjoyed reading the Pea Board(s) for years and years.
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Post by tara on Jul 6, 2020 15:04:45 GMT
I think the very very bottom line here is that racism is wrong. This is a universal truth. This is probably the point at which if you disagree with that statement (and good Lord, I hope you don't--you meaning the general you), you should probably just scroll on by. We on 2 Peas who are largely white and middle class, find ourselves in the middle of a sudden explosion of a movement. Lots of information is coming at us rapidly from many directions with the BLM movement. Because of this, I've had to step back, assess this information, and decide what my position is, so I know where I'm going, and how I want to proceed. (Now I'm going to pause right here and state that this very sentence I just wrote is an example someone might give as white privilege, and I acknowledge that.) So I said to myself: what are my very basic beliefs about my one brief life on this earth? I don't know that this is an exhaustive list, but three are: 1. Human beings, a group I belong to, have total autonomy over the bodies they have been given to walk this life with. I personally take this further to say that this includes whether I have created a life inside it or not. 2. I have total responsibility for taking care of this one body (which includes its brain/mind) in the best way I know how. 3. A huge part of my journey here in this one life is to try to make the world a better place. And I believe this is true regardless of what stage of growth you're in. One person's job might be to work to move beyond issues of childhood abuse so as not to transfer unhealthy behavior patterns to their own children. Another might be to implement systems which bring clean water to countries that lack it. So operating from this very basic place, I field all this rapidly incoming information. Things like by virtue of being white, I have white privilege. Like I have a hand in perpetuating systemic racism, even though my ancestors didn't come to this country until long after the Civil War, and they were Jews escaping persecution in eastern Europe. Like before now, I have not spoken out publicly against racism (outside this board). I take it in, absorb it, explore how I feel about it and act. (white privilege again) And here is where it gets complicated. I may be told that I am not doing it "right" or "quickly enough" or "failing" in some other way by someone else's standards. This may even venture into an area where that someone else tries to put me in a double-bind, e.g. "You're a racist, you need to change, but you're not doing it according to my standards." The double bind is a concept I learned as part of my training as a family therapist defined as a "dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, with one negating the other. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma, and therefore can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation." Double binds make people feel crazy and defeated and like giving up. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. So when I read that I should be "farther along", that I should have been speaking out about racism last year or five years ago or 20 years ago, I tell myself, "Yes, you're right, I wish I had been healthy enough to be a better person." I then remind myself that I have this one body/mind for me to take care of and I was. I was getting me healthy enough so I would then be able to look outward and see what work needed to be done to make the world a better place. I am just at the dawning of this new stage in my life, and I view myself (uh oh, another white privilege statement coming) as a kind of a toddler trying to walk. Would I intentionally trip a toddler trying to learn to walk? White people who are truly open to honestly dealing with the systemic racism in this country must be willing to face unpleasant truths, accept culpability in this system, but not to the detriment of their own mental health and development. Wow, very well said. My daughter told me about the slogan "White Silence Equals Violence." I'm not buying into that. We all can only do what we can do and nobody really knows what the other may be doing to further racial relations. As you stated, if we are not doing it to someone else's standards, then we are called out for being racist and not caring. Not a good way to go. For the record I totally agree with your daughter. |
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Post by tara on Jul 6, 2020 15:20:06 GMT
Ok after reading the whole thread I have a question for the ones that remembers the old board. I was on the old board mainly as a lurker. I was a lurker because I was too scared to post because of the nastiness. There was the popular peas who could get away with murder and there were peas who would just sneeze and got slapped down for it. If your post count wasn’t 1 million and 1 your opinion didn’t count. That being said, why did you stick it out all those years of nastiness, yet now you can’t “take” it? Serious question. I’m not trying to be snarky.
In my opinion this place is Disney land compared to the old board. I really appreciate the women on this board. I’ve learned so much from you guys. The good far outweighs the bad unless you’re just looking at and for the bad.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 6, 2020 15:35:54 GMT
Ok after reading the whole thread I have a question for the ones that remembers the old board. I was on the old board mainly as a lurker. I was a lurker because I was too scared to post because of the nastiness. There was the popular peas who could get away with murder and there were peas who would just sneeze and got slapped down for it. If your post count wasn’t 1 million and 1 your opinion didn’t count. That being said, why did you stick it out all those years of nastiness, yet now you can’t “take” it? Serious question. I’m not trying to be snarky. In my opinion this place is Disney land compared to the old board. I really appreciate the women on this board. I’ve learned so much from you guys. The good far outweighs the bad unless you’re just looking at and for the bad. I wasn’t a popular pea, nor did I get attacked for no reason regularly. People either ignored me or replied with good info/thoughts on the few posts I did start. (There was one thread where I got my ass handed to me because I made a joke about Dick Cheney being a cyborg because of his heart machine thingy 🙄). By the time it closed I had a substantial number of posts though, because I REALLY wanted to be able to set my own pea title. 😂😂😂. I had well above the required 5000 posts! I stayed there through all the nasty drama because 1. A lot of it was entertaining, esp late at night when I couldn’t sleep or needed a break from stressful grad school/work related things. That nonsense about IP addresses and outing fake accounts was WILD. Paper vagina sunsets? I will read a 12 page thread on that any day of the week. 😂 2. I think as a whole the peas are really good people. They are a wealth of knowledge, and people don’t seem to tire of answering people’s questions if it can help the OP in a small or big way. There are, of course, outliers who are only there to intentionally start shit and be extremely hateful and mean. Those peas suck. 3. This place is great for discussing a wide variety of topics. It’s an excellent way to get a different perspective on something, or have your mind blown by something you’ve never thought of. I like reading the opinions of other, and I enjoy it even more if they can explain how they have come to believe what they believe. I don’t have to love everyone’s opinion on everything. I don’t have to agree with it. But I do try and understand their opinion and how they got to that place. Not just about politics, but other general things as well (fave cc creams for example. Which way the toilet paper should hang. If cheesecake is a pie or a cake!). |
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 6, 2020 15:42:54 GMT
I think the very very bottom line here is that racism is wrong. This is a universal truth. This is probably the point at which if you disagree with that statement (and good Lord, I hope you don't--you meaning the general you), you should probably just scroll on by. We on 2 Peas who are largely white and middle class, find ourselves in the middle of a sudden explosion of a movement. Lots of information is coming at us rapidly from many directions with the BLM movement. Because of this, I've had to step back, assess this information, and decide what my position is, so I know where I'm going, and how I want to proceed. (Now I'm going to pause right here and state that this very sentence I just wrote is an example someone might give as white privilege, and I acknowledge that.) So I said to myself: what are my very basic beliefs about my one brief life on this earth? I don't know that this is an exhaustive list, but three are: 1. Human beings, a group I belong to, have total autonomy over the bodies they have been given to walk this life with. I personally take this further to say that this includes whether I have created a life inside it or not. 2. I have total responsibility for taking care of this one body (which includes its brain/mind) in the best way I know how. 3. A huge part of my journey here in this one life is to try to make the world a better place. And I believe this is true regardless of what stage of growth you're in. One person's job might be to work to move beyond issues of childhood abuse so as not to transfer unhealthy behavior patterns to their own children. Another might be to implement systems which bring clean water to countries that lack it. So operating from this very basic place, I field all this rapidly incoming information. Things like by virtue of being white, I have white privilege. Like I have a hand in perpetuating systemic racism, even though my ancestors didn't come to this country until long after the Civil War, and they were Jews escaping persecution in eastern Europe. Like before now, I have not spoken out publicly against racism (outside this board). I take it in, absorb it, explore how I feel about it and act. (white privilege again) And here is where it gets complicated. I may be told that I am not doing it "right" or "quickly enough" or "failing" in some other way by someone else's standards. This may even venture into an area where that someone else tries to put me in a double-bind, e.g. "You're a racist, you need to change, but you're not doing it according to my standards." The double bind is a concept I learned as part of my training as a family therapist defined as a "dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, with one negating the other. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma, and therefore can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation." Double binds make people feel crazy and defeated and like giving up. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. So when I read that I should be "farther along", that I should have been speaking out about racism last year or five years ago or 20 years ago, I tell myself, "Yes, you're right, I wish I had been healthy enough to be a better person." I then remind myself that I have this one body/mind for me to take care of and I was. I was getting me healthy enough so I would then be able to look outward and see what work needed to be done to make the world a better place. I am just at the dawning of this new stage in my life, and I view myself (uh oh, another white privilege statement coming) as a kind of a toddler trying to walk. Would I intentionally trip a toddler trying to learn to walk? White people who are truly open to honestly dealing with the systemic racism in this country must be willing to face unpleasant truths, accept culpability in this system, but not to the detriment of their own mental health and development. Wow, very well said. My daughter told me about the slogan "White Silence Equals Violence." I'm not buying into that. We all can only do what we can do and nobody really knows what the other may be doing to further racial relations. As you stated, if we are not doing it to someone else's standards, then we are called out for being racist and not caring. Not a good way to go. White people need to hold each other accountable. It will take us speaking up to each other and saying enough, for a systemic change to occur, whether we are comfortable with it or not. There are many quotes through history along the lines of your daughters comment, addressing the things that don’t change because of apathy and indifference. This isn’t a new concept, that’s just a specific issue version of it. "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it." "He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" "Doing nothing is doing evil" “The subtle and deadly change of heart that might occur in you would be involved with the realization that a civilization is not destroyed by wicked people; it is not necessary that people be wicked but only that they be spineless.” Imagine how many less people might of died in the Holocaust, if the world hadn’t overall chosen apathy until it was too late for them? |
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Post by peabay on Jul 6, 2020 15:46:39 GMT
Ok after reading the whole thread I have a question for the ones that remembers the old board. I was on the old board mainly as a lurker. I was a lurker because I was too scared to post because of the nastiness. There was the popular peas who could get away with murder and there were peas who would just sneeze and got slapped down for it. If your post count wasn’t 1 million and 1 your opinion didn’t count. That being said, why did you stick it out all those years of nastiness, yet now you can’t “take” it? Serious question. I’m not trying to be snarky. In my opinion this place is Disney land compared to the old board. I really appreciate the women on this board. I’ve learned so much from you guys. The good far outweighs the bad unless you’re just looking at and for the bad. That's a great question because I agree. I thought the old board got seriously out of hand many times. |
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Post by MichyM on Jul 6, 2020 15:55:34 GMT
I've never compared the old board to the new one. I think for many of us we don't compare the two. I think the point that some here are trying to make is that how we treat one another on this board could be better. Much better.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 6, 2020 16:46:47 GMT
Racism is a hot topic right now but even then, there's going to be some disparity on opinions depending on the exact subject involved. But, you do agree that at its very bottom line racism is wrong? That really can't be argued away as a disparity of opinion, which is what it appears you're trying to do. of course racism is wrong. But I think the problem comes in as what is racism? It is a belief and I can't know what is in people's heads (although current climate and Facebook are making that much easier) There are some words, symbols, and acts that *I* think are pretty cut and dry, but maybe you don't or maybe there is something you think is wrong that I don't. |
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 6, 2020 16:54:55 GMT
Ok after reading the whole thread I have a question for the ones that remembers the old board. I was on the old board mainly as a lurker. I was a lurker because I was too scared to post because of the nastiness. There was the popular peas who could get away with murder and there were peas who would just sneeze and got slapped down for it. If your post count wasn’t 1 million and 1 your opinion didn’t count. That being said, why did you stick it out all those years of nastiness, yet now you can’t “take” it? Serious question. I’m not trying to be snarky. In my opinion this place is Disney land compared to the old board. I really appreciate the women on this board. I’ve learned so much from you guys. The good far outweighs the bad unless you’re just looking at and for the bad. I definitely thought the old board was more rough-and-tumble. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 6, 2020 16:56:56 GMT
Ok after reading the whole thread I have a question for the ones that remembers the old board. I was on the old board mainly as a lurker. I was a lurker because I was too scared to post because of the nastiness. There was the popular peas who could get away with murder and there were peas who would just sneeze and got slapped down for it. If your post count wasn’t 1 million and 1 your opinion didn’t count. That being said, why did you stick it out all those years of nastiness, yet now you can’t “take” it? Serious question. I’m not trying to be snarky. In my opinion this place is Disney land compared to the old board. I really appreciate the women on this board. I’ve learned so much from you guys. The good far outweighs the bad unless you’re just looking at and for the bad. Excellent question. I posted frequently, although I was not a Popular Pea. I guess it was a mix of reasons for me. It was fascinating, and no matter how nasty it got, there were a lot of really smart peas who held you to account. Meaning that you had better be able to back up what you said. So you learned to defend your posts, and I liked that. I learned an awful lot, too. The board moved very, very quickly then, so there were always new posts. And during some volatile Presidential elections, it was a place to vent. And I never cared(still don’t) if somebody didn’t like me. This board is very mild by comparison. |
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Post by PLurker on Jul 6, 2020 17:41:10 GMT
Wow, very well said. My daughter told me about the slogan "White Silence Equals Violence." I'm not buying into that. We all can only do what we can do and nobody really knows what the other may be doing to further racial relations. As you stated, if we are not doing it to someone else's standards, then we are called out for being racist and not caring. Not a good way to go. For the record I totally agree with your daughter.  and for the record, as long as you are truly doing what you can (everyone's abilities differ) you are not being "silent". To me "White Silence Equals Violence" is doing nothing because "it doesn't matter or affect me". (it does, BTW) That is complicit and taking the side of the oppression. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 6, 2020 17:58:49 GMT
For the record I totally agree with your daughter. and for the record, as long as you are truly doing what you can (everyone's abilities differ) you are not being "silent". To me "White Silence Equals Violence" is doing nothing because "it doesn't matter or affect me". (it does, BTW) That is complicit and taking the side of the oppression. I agree with this. I do my stuff silently because I don’t need people to pat me on the back for my actions. Which means peaple would think I’m silent and doing nothing. But I’m not, I’m just not advertising my actions. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 6, 2020 18:01:10 GMT
I've never compared the old board to the new one. I think for many of us we don't compare the two. I think the point that some here are trying to make is that how we treat one another on this board could be better. Much better. I agree  |
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Post by pancakes on Jul 6, 2020 18:06:26 GMT
Maybe I'm mistaken - who else here is in their 20s/early 30s? Anyone? Me! I was also on the old board, but I barely used it or even remember what was going on there. |
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Olan
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Post by Olan on Jul 6, 2020 18:09:07 GMT
Maybe I'm mistaken - who else here is in their 20s/early 30s? Anyone? Me! I was also on the old board, but I barely used it or even remember what was going on there. I wonder what’s the average age of a pea now? |
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Post by inkedup on Jul 6, 2020 18:14:33 GMT
This has been an EXTREMELY interesting thread !!! I appreciate everyone's input---lots of things to think about !!! I would LOVE to hear from Sanctimommy ! You know what? Sanctimommy is too busy breastfeeding her 684 month old to worry about our drama. Have you no respect?! 😂 |
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Post by sanctimommy on Jul 6, 2020 18:36:39 GMT
This has been an EXTREMELY interesting thread !!! I appreciate everyone's input---lots of things to think about !!! I would LOVE to hear from Sanctimommy ! I wish I had time to read eleven pages, but this mama just doesn’t have the time like some of you. I bet it’s nice to not be busy busy busy, but you know being blessed with my children keeps me so young. I don’t know what I’d do without their joyful laughter. I’d probably be more bitter if I had more time to spend here. I’m so busy with homeschooling, cooking organically, documenting our family on IG, and doing my research, I just struggle with #selfcare. Well, I’m off to check my ginger-lemongrass-rhubarb-wheat germ kombucha that is brewing, and then I am leading the littles through their summer Mandarin and Pre-trig lessons, and finally, before making a wholesome dinner of locally sourced Summer beet, quinoa and tofu salad, I am leading virtual reiki healing sessions for all 38 attendees of my 72 month old’s covid, measles and chickenpox birthday party last week. After doing my research, I decided to get it all over with at once. #soblessed namaste |
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) and realised that the press in other countries may not always present an accurate reflection of what is going on in a country.
and for the record, as long as you are truly doing what you can (everyone's abilities differ) you are not being "silent". To me "White Silence Equals Violence" is doing nothing because "it doesn't matter or affect me". (it does, BTW)
