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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 12:36:47 GMT
Is the board really that bad?
I read this on another thread 'constant bullying and abusing practiced by the peas' (I'm not having a go at the author of that statement, just to be clear, I'm using it as an example)
Is this how you perceive the board?
Are we a bunch of bullies and abusers and why do we all stick around if that's the case?
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SweetieBsMom
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 5, 2020 12:45:45 GMT
I think everyone’s emotions are heightened right now and that seems to make us less tolerant of others opinion. This typically happens, anyway, during an election year. It’s a perfect storm right now. I have a strict ‘wait at least 2 hours before reacting to a post’. It’s been particularly nasty around here lately. Not everyone sees things the same way and we need to respect that. I know, personally, political threads tend to set me off, so I stay away from those.
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 5, 2020 12:47:34 GMT
No, I don't think it's that bad. I have hidden a few people, but not many.
I avoid the Politic posts most of the time.
It would not hurt for all of us to try harder to respect others.
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Post by KelleeM on Jul 5, 2020 12:52:40 GMT
I don’t think it’s that bad. I do think we’re living through times that none of us ever anticipated and most are ill equipped to cope with.
And I also think there is a Pea or two who revels in being nasty, presumptive and thinks she’s above everyone.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 5, 2020 12:53:44 GMT
I can only speak for myself of course, but no, I don't think it's really that bad. I haven't felt the need to block anyone, and I haven't felt like I've wanted to leave.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 5, 2020 12:58:02 GMT
And I also think there is a Pea or two who revels in being nasty, presumptive and thinks she’s above everyone. this....I have finally blocked a couple.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 5, 2020 13:00:31 GMT
I don’t think so. Like in my real life, I know the cast of characters. Everyone is different and has different personalities and posting styles...and different lives and problems. Unlike real life, I can ignore peas, pass by threads, or log off if I feel overwhelmed or upset by what I am reading or by how people are “acting”.
I am not a well known pea or prolific pea 😉 but I stick around because Peas teach me, make me laugh, make me sad and cry, give me links to things that I love and would have never seen, and show me I am normal and I am weird. They amaze me and make me shake my head. Everything that a family and community does. Do I agree with everyone and everything...not by a long shot. But my unknown self still loves coming here to pass the time in good and bad. So this is more of a thanks.
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Post by mari on Jul 5, 2020 13:00:45 GMT
I definitely think there are a few groups of “mean girls” who bully/target certain posters. It’s usually easy to spot because one of them will say something rude and then all their buddies will “like” the post. If anyone calls out the rudeness, they are told they don’t understand because the target did something terrible first (long ago, on a deleted post, probably).
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mich5481
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Post by mich5481 on Jul 5, 2020 13:01:44 GMT
I don't know, I had a few people react strongly to some of my comments on a thread, so I deleted my comments because they were just stirring up drama. I then had several peas comment on my deletion of the comments - I felt like I was being called out personally, and when I replied that I deleted comments that did not add value to the thread, no one replied.
I've been sticking to the SB side more lately.
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Post by Lexica on Jul 5, 2020 13:02:01 GMT
I will fully admit that as the weeks of staying at home and the anxiety brought on by this pandemic, my patience is much less than it normally is. I find myself irritated and irrationally so at silly things like a commercial (Enjoy the go. Really? That commercial irritates the $hit out of me. Pun intended) or a lid not coming off of a jar fast enough. I know my reactions are colored by what is going on in the world, so I'm doing my best to not let it leak out onto anyone else right now. I won't post on something that would result in me being less than kind. This will pass and I will return to my normal self, but right now, I am extra irritable and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 5, 2020 13:02:08 GMT
I have never felt bullied but then again, I’ve got a thick hide.
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Post by allison1954 on Jul 5, 2020 13:04:48 GMT
I think things are no worse than before.
Peas have had several rough patches.
one thing I do object to is people coming in with “people are being mean to me” and when you search their posts , they had also had a hand in it.
If you want better, do better. clean up your own house first ( said to no one in particular)
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 5, 2020 13:10:04 GMT
No, I don't think *all* the peas bully and abuse. I think there is a *group* of peas who use the anonymity of the internet to bully and abuse their chosen targets. I have a number of them blocked because they personally attacked me. Other ones I don't have blocked and I can see them attacking others. If you point out the behavior, as I did yesteday, then you become a target as well, as the bully's friends rush to their defense by attacking you. Seldom does anyone rush to the victim's defense, because people don't want to also become a target. If this were real life and one of your friends constantly called out and harassed one of your other friends, wouldn't you step up? When I see a pea saying something nasty and uncalled for, I like to read some of their other recent posts. In the past, have they been a "good neighbor"? Or are the majority of their posts insults, grammar policing, etc? Then I know if they are a regular pea who has had a bad day, or a pea who comes here to get their jollies by being mean to people.
And I'm not even talking about the political threads. Go ahead and rant and rave and scream and abuse in there to your hearts content. But when you go to a non political thread and make your answer about why the OP is a bad person, how can anyone think that is okay?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 5, 2020 13:16:44 GMT
I think lately people in general everywhere are more on edge so it doesn’t surprise me that our group here is too. I’ve been around here long enough to know which ones are out to stir the pot, which ones are likely to drop a controversial post like a hot turd and then not come back to it once people are riled up, etc. I think I have only blocked one person in 6 years and that person was truly vile. There are a couple more I probably should block but I haven’t done it yet.
I think it wouldn’t hurt to take a minute to re-read what we’re about to send into the world and decide if it’s something we would say to someone face to face in real life. If the answer is no, then maybe not hit the post button.
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ddly
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Post by ddly on Jul 5, 2020 13:18:58 GMT
This is very subjective. I was on the old board for 13-14 years, so I have seen it all. There are definitely peas who are nasty and presumptive. I don't think there are a lot. I tend to stay away from anything that may get ugly, but at the same time I have tried to say kind things to lessen the blow. I have one pea blocked.
On the other hand, I have witnessed some of the kindest and most generous acts here! Last year I received several things for my classroom from the peas. It was beyond generous! I tend to try and find the positive in all things. Granted I don't always succeed, but I also don't feel it is always necessary to point out the worst in people.
I haven't ever wanted to leave. I think the positive far outweighs the negative. I choose to come here. I have met many very kind, generous and down right funny people here. I could make pages of items I've been introduced to (many of which I have purchased) and I have been exposed to many issues and ideas that I would never have encountered in my bland ordinary life. I appreciate that.
We all choose what we will take away from here. Some days I just come to play the games. Some days I come to read what's going on politically. Some days I read all the threads and write several responses, some days I pick and choose what I read and respond to and some days I just don't come.
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Post by tentoes on Jul 5, 2020 13:19:25 GMT
There seems to be a "group think" here--mostly on any of the political threads, and anybody that has anything to say that doesn't go along with that group think usually gets trashed. I stay away from the political threads entirely.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 5, 2020 13:21:11 GMT
I have a pretty thick skin so I don't tend to feel bullied. What I do feel sometimes here is left out. Like I am just a very odd duck that doesn't fit with the group. This feeling sometimes makes me feel like I want to leave. I have to sometimes remind myself of all of the wonderful friends I've made here. I have a handful of friends on Facebook. And I have several that I talk with off board. And I like the dinner thread group immensely. And the craft thread girls are my tribe too. Some days I come here and just read the dinner and craft threads and leave.
But to say that there hasn't been kind of a change in tone here is disingenuous. I posted a post on Facebook because I can see there and in my dealings with people in my every day life that some people really aren't handling this pandemic well. The shutdown really bothered people. It really upset their mental health. People who normally have no mental health issues were suddenly looking a whole lot like people with mental health issues. And I posted a post because I wanted them to know that I was here for them if they needed to talk. If they needed a friend. I have handled this pandemic really well. I feel pretty good. And I think the reason I and my friends who have well controlled mental illness have is because we have tools to deal with all these types of feelings. So I think people here need to take a look at themselves a bit and see if they aren't having trouble handling the pandemic and all the social justice things going on. I have compassion for that.
And I'd really have a lot more respect for people if 1) we called it out when someone has been tough and 2) that person did a little introspection into why they were so harsh. I get the why. I understand it. I just wish people would own it a little bit more. Show a little more of their humanity and humility.
But to say the state of the world isn't impacting us here while simultaneously saying the world's gone mad? Well it's just completely stupid not to admit that these things have impacted you as well. And the impact goes deeper than my hair is now gray or my wedding is cancelled.
I want all of us to talk to each other on a deeper level.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 5, 2020 13:21:39 GMT
I don’t think the board is any more nasty or mean now than it has been in the past. I don’t think it is mean or nasty at all. It is MUCH nicer than the original 2 peas board.
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Post by busy on Jul 5, 2020 13:21:45 GMT
It’s not that bad. There are occasional times when people are out of line - and people speak out against the offender when that’s the case - but for the most part, it’s typical interaction. That doesn’t meant everyone agrees or is always polite, but that’s real life. There are some expectations here about how women “should” interact that I think are problematic.
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Post by myboysnme on Jul 5, 2020 13:22:19 GMT
I think the board is a nice place to hang out. I must skim by a lot because when this subject comes up I just can't recall seeing it. I think sometimes some people feel bullied when someone adamantly disagrees with them. This is not bullying to me. But I think it is to some people, depending how the opposing poster words their posts.
I also think a little drama can keep things interesting. I'm not talking about a full out multi car pileup or train wreck, but definitely a few of those car in the ditch kind of things.
Sometimes a poster says something that I just cannot let go by without challenging it. I may be overbearing, emphatic, curt, insistent, but I think sometimes some people have a limited frame of reference and decide things are either nice or mean. As for abusive. I worked in the field of domestic violence and abuse for 20 years and I cannot stand when people decide they are being abused because they feel uncomfortable or someone is being mean.
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Post by sasha on Jul 5, 2020 13:24:58 GMT
For once, I'm happy to say that I'm not one of the mean ones!
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Post by myboysnme on Jul 5, 2020 13:25:05 GMT
What I do feel sometimes here is left out. If you left it would leave a big hole. I frequently don't know what's going on but then again I think there can be some comfort in not knowing every thing that's going on around me. I always notice your posts and you always bring honesty and good discussion. I'm sorry you feel left out.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 5, 2020 13:53:23 GMT
It’s not that bad. There are occasional times when people are out of line - and people speak out against the offender when that’s the case - but for the most part, it’s typical interaction. That doesn’t meant everyone agrees or is always polite, but that’s real life. There are some expectations here about how women “should” interact that I think are problematic. I think if we are saying that women should always be polite and demure or something is most likely out of line. But I know for me, when I post here, I post to all of you in the same words and tones I would use with my real life friends. It's not always rainbows and unicorns. It is real. And I would never suggest someone be fake. But part of being real is being vulnerable. And part of being real is treating people online the same exact way you would to their face. And that's treating someone with respect.
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 5, 2020 14:03:07 GMT
I find this a much more congenial place than the original 2 Peas NSBR board. That was a $#itshow sometimes with bickering and trolling. I didn't go there much for just that reason.
I'm sorry this person felt this way. I've gotten great advice and enjoyed some good discussions. I haven't run across trolls or nastiness, but as always I try to stay away from the political threads. It's still the internet. Political discussions aren't going to end well.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 5, 2020 14:09:13 GMT
I've posted on the other threads about people saying the board has changed. I never seem to get a responses to my posts. So in a way I feel like jeremysgirl. I think this board is much gentler, much kinder then the old board. Maybe because our group is smaller and we know each a bit better? I've tried to make comments on threads where people get handslapped, if appropriate. I have tried to be kinder. I got handslapped on a nascar thread where I mentioned a rumor..a RUMOR. I can't remember the exact words, but that I was cont'ing a racial thought. That wasn't my intent. My intent was to talk about all the rumors and possibilities. Things that are done on a message board. When you get handslapped like that you sometimes don't even want to post on here. I think political threads are very touchy these days. I have learned so much on here. made many friends. I don't think it's as bad as some Ps thing. Now the old days over at the original Pod..oooh my!
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 5, 2020 14:11:29 GMT
For me I see a large group of peas that have been mad as hell since Trump won. They make sure everyone knows they are mad and if you do not loudly and frequently speak out against Trump, then you obviously support him.
Sadly many of them have carried their anger into other interactions. Their hatred of Trump has changed everything for them. Many of their posts have to include the phrase, I live in Trump land . . . They could be talking about their neighbors painting their house an ugly color, but because they live in Trump land what do you expect. And of course their neighbors are racist because, well they live in Trump land.
We get it, people are angry and hate everything because Trump won. Some people can’t talk about anything without bringing up politics or that it’s the republicans fault.
For me they are the pitchfork peas. If they disagree with you, they are coming after you. They will tell themselves they are just trying to educate you or help you or they are just telling it like it is.
The virus does seem to have brought the pitchforks out more often. Someone can say they hate wearing a mask and here comes the mass of peas to tell them how stupid and selfish they are. Now they never said they DIDN’T wear a mask, they just said they hated wearing one. Three pages later they are now labeled a non mask wearer. And it’s their fault for not being clearer, not the peas that jumped on them and assumed they weren’t wearing a mask.
There seems to be less grace and forgiveness than there used to be. Some peas are very quick to jump on anyone they feel doesn’t agree with them or isn’t doing things the way they feel they should be done. It’s sad that so many feel this isn’t the same group of friends they have come to know and love. It’s even sadder that some can’t or won’t see their part in it.
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Post by tentoes on Jul 5, 2020 14:13:44 GMT
People who normally have no mental health issues were suddenly looking a whole lot like people with mental health issues. And I posted a post because I wanted them to know that I was here for them if they needed to talk. If they needed a friend. I have handled this pandemic really well. I love this about you girl. I love your honest to the heart posts. I love how you knew when you needed help and went and got it. That is very hard for some people.
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artbabe
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Post by artbabe on Jul 5, 2020 14:13:56 GMT
I have handled this pandemic really well. I feel pretty good. And I think the reason I and my friends who have well controlled mental illness have is because we have tools to deal with all these types of feelings. That is interesting that you say that because I'm really handling this well, too. Of course, I take a mood stabilizer, so that helps. But you are right about the tools I've developed to deal with my feelings. A lifetime of battling mental illness means I've learned a lot about my triggers and know how to manage them. I think that is a really interesting point, jeremysgirl. And on topic: The board is a bit touchy lately, and we do have mean people sometimes, but it isn't terrible. A lot of times I'll read a comment and I'll know who made it without looking at the actual name of the poster. I don't take offense- they are the way they are. I roll my eyes and move along. I haven't been the subject of an attack, though. I'd probably feel different if I were. I do think there are pile-ons, and that needs to stop. A couple of peas really get jumped on, and I'm not sure why. I do agree with myboysandme that dust ups here and there keep the board interesting. As long as it is mild disagreements and drama, I'm okay with it. It is just important for all of us to interject and stop it before it goes completely over the line. I'm not about to leave the board. I've been with you guys for 18 years, I'm here for the long haul.
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ashley
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Post by ashley on Jul 5, 2020 14:13:58 GMT
I think this board is a lot nicer and more supportive than the original version.
However, when you’re at the bottom of a pile-on and then unfounded rumours about you start being carried into other discussions it’s quite difficult and incredibly personally hurtful. I understand feeling like this isn’t a healthy and supportive environment when experiencing that kind of treatment.
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Post by mellowyellow on Jul 5, 2020 14:14:31 GMT
I definitely think there are a few groups of “mean girls” who bully/target certain posters. It’s usually easy to spot because one of them will say something rude and then all their buddies will “like” the post. If anyone calls out the rudeness, they are told they don’t understand because the target did something terrible first (long ago, on a deleted post, probably). I agree 100%.
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