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Post by BSideCrafter on Jul 13, 2020 17:49:10 GMT
Lara has a post about this with new information in her Facebook group: InkRoadStamps |
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Post by BSideCrafter on Jul 13, 2020 17:57:59 GMT
 This was posted in that Facebook group. Looks like they're trying to buy silence with product. Because fangirls didn't have enough Tim products before. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:04:05 GMT
Well, if she was not convicted, he might just have a legal problem from that post. I guess time will tell.
PS Tim
I don’t approve of bullying or excluding your competition in that way
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Post by JavaJones on Jul 13, 2020 18:07:26 GMT
Receipts from the video for those unable to watch or visually impaired: 1. OG message | "I am writing to you regarding your refusal to acknowledge the black craft community. You have a platform from which you could educate people and give much needed support to the Black Lives Matter Movement! Instead you continued to host your weekly facebook lives in order to sell your product to a locked down captive audience. You were called out by Lara from [redacted] over your back tracking and silence and you got together with members the good old girls club and had her stamps pulled from [redacted]. Not only are you a racist, you are a bully too!!! I will no longer be supporting your products and I am calling out Ranger Ink, Stampers Anonymous and Sizzix to drop you as a Designer." Tim's reply | "bitter party of 1... your table's ready." 2. Stand-alone email sent by Mario to someone calling Tim out (email subject: TROLL) | "Stay away from Tim and Zoe, you pathetic troll! We will find and block you from our page and the Addicts group and good luck with getting your orders filled from our affiliate retailers! We can call our contacts and you would not work again!! STAY AWAY FROM TIM AND ZOE YOU DUMB FUCK!!!" Wow, I am new to stamping and just bought some TH Distress inks and the TH Stamp Platform. He will no longer be getting ANY of my money!  |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 13, 2020 18:16:08 GMT
Btw, if that video is only up for a week is there a way to save it so there is something to refer to when addressing it with companies? Got you covered, fam'. Downloaded it as soon as I saw it!  |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 13, 2020 18:20:54 GMT
Throwing Zoe under the bus like that, oh my, look at all the backstabbing happening! Are we supposed to believe she also had access to Tim and Mario's email accounts? Zoe, guuurl, did you pretend to be big Mario and tell a crafter to leave you and Tim alone, "YOU DUMB FUCK"?
Tsk tsk tsk. This is Roman emperor betrayal kind of stuff. If only I had corn to pop...
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:28:39 GMT
Btw, if that video is only up for a week is there a way to save it so there is something to refer to when addressing it with companies? Got you covered, fam'. Downloaded it as soon as I saw it! For now, I’m putting whatever is between Tim & Lara on the back burner til I find out more about each sides accusations. BUT what Mario said to that artist Whose note Lara posted at the end of the video was completely uncalled for. First I don’t like the threat to make sure a person ‘never works again’ but I especially do not like when men threaten that to women. That some load of bullshit that I will not tolerate. ( btdt and stood up for myself but... ) I’m not gonna let him bully whomever that was, I know they don’t want their name out there so he can get their work cut from places but I sure wish I knew who that was so I could ask companies to carry their products. Ink road I have no issue with wether or not she has a ‘past’ as Tim alludes to. People still deserve to try to earn a living if they have made past mistakes. ( and I’m not so sure she had ) I mean, in some circles people felt Tim ‘stole’ the stamp platform idea from the cranky misti lady. So I’m pretty sure those things have been said about him & he’s still out there earning a living. I just can’t stand when successful men think they can ‘ruin’ a woman’s livelihood just by throwing their influence around I have a single finger salute for that kind of shit- it’s a hot button issue for me. |
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Post by BSideCrafter on Jul 13, 2020 18:28:45 GMT
 Tim has a statement now posted on his Facebook page claiming all the accusations are false. |
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2020 18:30:55 GMT
The way he emphasizes big makes me dislike him even more. Its almost, Trump-like. Might as well have said YUUUGE. Ugh.
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Post by julie5 on Jul 13, 2020 18:31:10 GMT
This was posted in that Facebook group. Looks like they're trying to buy silence with product. Because fangirls didn't have enough Tim products before. I mean...why not just be public with this? Address it on your social media if Lara is truly being harrassive. (I know that’s not a word) Doing it in an email seems very sneaky to me. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:32:29 GMT
Tim has a statement now posted on his Facebook page claiming all the accusations are false. He STILL does not address what Mario said to the artist whose note was at the end of that video. That kind of bullying is not acceptable |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 13, 2020 18:32:35 GMT
Tim has a statement now posted on his Facebook page claiming all the accusations are false. So is that why he and all the brands he's closely affiliated with are mass blocking people wondering about this? refugeepea should know! |
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2020 18:33:55 GMT
Got you covered, fam'. Downloaded it as soon as I saw it! For now, I’m putting whatever is between Tim & Lara on the back burner til I find out more about each sides accusations. BUT what Mario said to that artist Whose note Lara posted at the end of the video was completely uncalled for. First I don’t like the threat to make sure a person ‘never works again’ but I especially do not like when men threaten that to women. That some load of bullshit that I will not tolerate. ( btdt and stood up for myself but... ) I’m not gonna let him bully whomever that was, I know they don’t want their name out there so he can get their work cut from places but I sure wish I knew who that was so I could ask companies to carry their products. Ink road I have no issue with wether or not she has a ‘past’ as Tim alludes to. People still deserve to try to earn a living if they have made past mistakes. ( and I’m not so sure she had ) I mean, in some circles people felt Tim ‘stole’ the stamp platform idea from the cranky misti lady. So I’m pretty sure those things have been said about him & he’s still out there earning a living. I just can’t stand when successful men think they can ‘ruin’ a woman’s livelihood just by throwing their influence around I have a single finger salute for that kind of shit- it’s a hot button issue for me. This is where I am as well. I need to hear more, but at a minimal he is a jackass for the way he spoke to a woman. Maybe he's not a racist. But he is a bully. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 13, 2020 18:34:53 GMT
Tim has a statement now posted on his Facebook page claiming all the accusations are false. So is that why he and all the brands he's closely affiliated with are mass blocking people wondering about this? refugeepea should know! Probably to keep the drama off their brands, since it did not happen there . |
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Post by julie5 on Jul 13, 2020 18:35:47 GMT
Lara was involved in some planner drama a few years back. And then Christy Tomlinson had to put her big mouth in it and it was ugly.
In this instance though, I feel like Lara has presented herself and the information in a very professional matter. This does not look like bullying to me except that Tim is the bullying Lara.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 13, 2020 18:36:21 GMT
BUT what Mario said to that artist Whose note Lara posted at the end of the video was completely uncalled for. First I don’t like the threat to make sure a person ‘never works again’ but I especially do not like when men threaten that to women. That some load of bullshit that I will not tolerate. He threatened to BLACKLIST someone so they'd never work again. He threatened to make sure that person's orders would not be filled by affiliate retailers. He's using Zoe and Lara (ah, two women!) to cover himself and Mario now. What a fair and brave fight! Wow, much honesty, very courage, like doge would say. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:36:29 GMT
For now, I’m putting whatever is between Tim & Lara on the back burner til I find out more about each sides accusations. BUT what Mario said to that artist Whose note Lara posted at the end of the video was completely uncalled for. First I don’t like the threat to make sure a person ‘never works again’ but I especially do not like when men threaten that to women. That some load of bullshit that I will not tolerate. ( btdt and stood up for myself but... ) I’m not gonna let him bully whomever that was, I know they don’t want their name out there so he can get their work cut from places but I sure wish I knew who that was so I could ask companies to carry their products. Ink road I have no issue with wether or not she has a ‘past’ as Tim alludes to. People still deserve to try to earn a living if they have made past mistakes. ( and I’m not so sure she had ) I mean, in some circles people felt Tim ‘stole’ the stamp platform idea from the cranky misti lady. So I’m pretty sure those things have been said about him & he’s still out there earning a living. I just can’t stand when successful men think they can ‘ruin’ a woman’s livelihood just by throwing their influence around I have a single finger salute for that kind of shit- it’s a hot button issue for me. This is where I am as well. I need to hear more, but at a minimal he is a jackass for the way he spoke to a woman. Maybe he's not a racist. But he is a bully. Oh, no, Tim is dead to me if he doesn’t address what Mario said. I’ve been through that when I was younger and I’m NOT putting up with that bullshit. Lara was wise enough to take & post screen shots so it was said, by Mario to someone. And until THAT is addressed he & his products are dead to me. ( and maybe still will be if it’s a craptastic fake apology ) |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 13, 2020 18:38:12 GMT
So is that why he and all the brands he's closely affiliated with are mass blocking people wondering about this? refugeepea should know! Probably to keep the drama off their brands, since it did not happen there . They're *blocking* customers, not just deleting comments. They're blocking them before they can even send a comment ( refugeepea never managed to reach out to Tonic because Tonic preemptively blocked her because she had contacted Tim and Mario before). That is one hell of a stupid way to lose customers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:39:20 GMT
I am super confused about what you posted BSideCrafter-was this a email directly from TH to you? Is he seemingly stating that this "Zoe" (no clue who she is) started all this and now she is out of the picture? What an ugly mess! Very disappointed in TH and Mario (no clue who he is either except for reading this thread) for all of it. Even if they are not 100% responsible, they let it get started. Sorry for my confusing, just trying to sort it out in my head!~ |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:39:55 GMT
I mean ‘bitter table of one‘ might have gotten a pass, I can be that snarky myself.
But there is no mistaking the threat Mario made IN WRITING! Which could result in a lawsuit if that person looses business because of it.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2020 18:41:17 GMT
This is where I am as well. I need to hear more, but at a minimal he is a jackass for the way he spoke to a woman. Maybe he's not a racist. But he is a bully. Oh, no, Tim is dead to me if he doesn’t address what Mario said. I’ve been through that when I was younger and I’m NOT putting up with that bullshit. Lara was wise enough to take & post screen shots so it was said, by Mario to someone. And until THAT is addressed he & his products are dead to me. ( and maybe still will be if it’s a craptastic fake apology ) Oh, I agree. Im done. And now someone in the IRS FB page posted Lauras mug shot and all the details about her past. Jeeeeze. |
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Post by JustTricia on Jul 13, 2020 18:43:33 GMT
Tim has a statement now posted on his Facebook page claiming all the accusations are false. He STILL does not address what Mario said to the artist whose note was at the end of that video. That kind of bullying is not acceptable (Not defending him or anything, but...) He does address it, though. He said the screenshots were doctored. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:43:37 GMT
Oh, no, Tim is dead to me if he doesn’t address what Mario said. I’ve been through that when I was younger and I’m NOT putting up with that bullshit. Lara was wise enough to take & post screen shots so it was said, by Mario to someone. And until THAT is addressed he & his products are dead to me. ( and maybe still will be if it’s a craptastic fake apology ) Oh, I agree. Im done. And now someone in the IRS FB page posted Lauras mug shot and all the details about her past. Jeeeeze. Well, people’s pasts are not their present situation. Was she even convicted? Were charged brought? Or she was just processed because someone accused her of something? A mug shot means literally nothing other than you were accused & processed. What Mario threatened is present tense now |
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Post by peachiceteas on Jul 13, 2020 18:44:51 GMT
It just blows my mind that a gay man cannot even remotely empathize with what the black community is going through right now. Now ain't this the damn truth. My mind is literally blown into pieces. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:44:52 GMT
He STILL does not address what Mario said to the artist whose note was at the end of that video. That kind of bullying is not acceptable (Not defending him or anything, but...) He does address it, though. He said the screenshots were doctored. That’s some hell of a photo shop job. Still not believing it |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:47:41 GMT
Plus - he did something to get her products pulled immediately from shelves, which is exactly what part of the threat was.... so it looks pretty valid to me.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2020 18:48:20 GMT
Oh, I agree. Im done. And now someone in the IRS FB page posted Lauras mug shot and all the details about her past. Jeeeeze. Well, people’s pasts are not their present situation. Was she even convicted? Were charged brought? Or she was just processed because someone accused her of something? A mug shot means literally nothing other than you were accused & processed. What Mario threatened is present tense now I completely agree. I am wow'd that someone would do that. Im not sure why you are getting defensive on me. I agree with you. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 13, 2020 18:51:29 GMT
Well, people’s pasts are not their present situation. Was she even convicted? Were charged brought? Or she was just processed because someone accused her of something? A mug shot means literally nothing other than you were accused & processed. What Mario threatened is present tense now I completely agree. I am wow'd that someone would do that. Im not sure why you are getting defensive on me. I agree with you. I’m sorry if I’m coming off as defensive, not my intent I’m just adding more thought I apologize and will try to word things more carefully ( or not quote ) |
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Post by BSideCrafter on Jul 13, 2020 18:52:04 GMT
I am super confused about what you posted BSideCrafter -was this a email directly from TH to you? Is he seemingly stating that this "Zoe" (no clue who she is) started all this and now she is out of the picture? What an ugly mess! Very disappointed in TH and Mario (no clue who he is either except for reading this thread) for all of it. Even if they are not 100% responsible, they let it get started. Sorry for my confusing, just trying to sort it out in my head!~ It was an email posted in the Ink Road Roadies Facebook group thread. It was to the person who's card started this discussion. Sorry if I didn't clarify that well. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 13, 2020 18:53:26 GMT
Oh, it was all photoshopped now... I see, that's why you're BLOCKING PEOPLE left and right instead of having someone from CS send each of them a polite standard message? The mass blocking from not only Tim, Mario and Zoe but now also the companies he's affiliated with BEFORE people can send them a message to ask what is going on or express disappointment (like what happened to refugeepea on page 1 of this very thread when she discovered she was blocked by Tonic before she could even send them a message about the TH mess) is one of the most damning pieces of evidence here. That is not the behaviour of an innocent person trying to defend themselves and wanting to get the truth out. |
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