Tim holtz the ink road (Lara) drama

Unless the person who was sent the emails decides to speak up. I think that's what this is going to turn into and Tim's fan girl base is so much larger and has more "celebrities" that he'll win the battle. 

I'd go with she said/he blocked but yes, he's counting on his adoring fan base + big PR boxes to dilute the drama.

ETA: Most of my scrappy tools are Tim Holtz for Tonic, right down to my two paper trimmers and stamp platforms. I have every *emotional* reason to want to believe him but fuck that, my skeptical thinking and nonsense radar did not need to work overtime to smell the fishy. 

If I’m blocked from tonic or ranger I’m not going to believe Tim that the screen shot was doctored. I have some work to finish before I go write those emails but their response can confirm the issue in my eyes.

Just sayin...

Truthfully, I have no idea who’s telling the truth and who isn’t. I have no personal relationship with Lara nor Tim to base my belief on. She’s posting emails that were not sent to her as far as I can figure out which I'm not sure I understand how she got involved. The date stamp on one of the emails was after 4pm today, so are we talking an international incident? I’m withholding any judgment until this is less muddled. I’m really not interested in cancelling anyone without full information. It’s happens more than I’d like these days and that shit sticks even after it’s discovered things aren’t always as they first appear.

Also, it would be super interesting to hear from the card maker herself. Not that that is the only issue, but interesting that Tim says the card maker removed the card herself and contacted Lara that she had done so. Seems weird that Tim would be privy to that information and that the card maker isn’t speaking up since she knows the situation. Right?

Oh, what a tangled web they weave.  

Ive read yes but dont know that from experience. 

I was blocked by Zoe and Tonic before I could post. Her Instagram account is now deleted.

Tim is contending that the screen shots were doctored, so maybe it'll remain a he said/ she said as far as the video is concerned. Unless a third party examines the shots. How likely is it to go that far? I don't know.

But surely someone else witnessed what went down on the FB page? Has anyone stepped forward to confirm the deletions?

And what was the timeline? Did he say that the screen shots were doctored before or after he threw Zoe under the bus for her comments?

For those of you with access to his Instagram account, all the big names have commented their support for him.  That's pretty ballsy in my opinion unless the emails from Mario were actually fake.

Can you copy/paste here? You have to be s as member to see it.

Woah, this is insane! Why can't the world just love and accept people for who they are. I cannot seem to fathom that skin tone--ethnicity--melanin is so frightening that the only way to feel better, to feel powerful is to put a whole group of people down in so many ways. The same with sexuality, gender, religion, age, etc. It is ok to just be whoever you are as long as you're not physically, emotionally, verbally or mentally abusing anyone. It's wild.

I honestly cannot wait until all the hate is over.

I’m reserving all judgement, both sides.  I have more questions than answers.  This has me unnerved.  Zoe is still an admin and posting on the Addicts FB page.  He says in his post he stands with Zoe.  So this doesn’t add up.  If I’m missing something, please enlighten me.  As it stands, it’s not all adding up, EITHER WAY!  

I get that.

But when a person representing you threatens to have person A blacklisted from the industry and then you say that is a doctored screen shot. Then person B, who made the threat to person A public, has their stuff yanked from shelves. And you sort of allude to the fact that you actually had their stuff yanked from shelves In your response, it doesn’t lend itself to good optics that the threat was not made and the email was actually doctored. What that looks like is that you throw your weight around in the industry to get back at other designers you don’t like. It looks like this is what you do when you want to. It looks like the threat was made and was real.

Tim himself says he had Lara’s stuff pulled from OTHER people’s businesses. How is that not bullying? How is that not exactly what Mario threatened to the unknown artist? THAT is what I’m saying he is not addressing.

Why does he think he should have the power to have another designers products pulled - you can’t say that’s doctored he said it himself

If it looks like a duck & walks like a duck....