What Black People Really Need From You

Edumacating sounds about right 🥴

If someone provided information I found “valuable” I would be much more gracious in my criticism of them but what the hell do I know about kindness 😜

I purposely ignored her. The most I’ll do is quote because peas have removed comments from my threads after the fact.

The biggest part of me values this type of pointed language. Not knowing where I stand with peas always keeps me from engaging in threads that aren’t my own. You will think you’ve found community when people object to your right to live freely and shit. I like clean lines. Linda provides em 😉

For what it’s worth I take more issue with people not calling out peano. White women seem to think correcting one another is a pile on. As if private messaging doesn’t work. Trust me I get solidarity and holding rank 😉but I will pull a Black women to the side with a loving correction in a second. You’ll see the few Black peas do the same to me..

Peano is smug with it too. Repeat offender even😳. One thread the work Black women have to do is unconscionable but in another simply to disagree with me she gives a participation trophy to everyone who voted. Guess who becomes the bully when I say sit down with a book and STFU.

Maybe it got loss 🤷🏾‍♀️Today peano said while valuable she finds my participation a bit much. She took it even further and said I fancy myself the Savior of Karens. Especially upsetting when my official stance on Karens is they won’t ever change. And the most effective method physical correction. No recording. No Gayle interviews.

peano I’m unsure of why you tagged me in Michy’s thread one totally unrelated to this one but I’ve placed the quote here so no one is confused by what transpired.

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She is capable. As is every other white person in America. That’s not my hill. I don’t think anyone needs handholding. Anti racist work is just like any other thing you do to improve your character. Someone can help you along the way but personal responsibility and the willingness to be better people is the only thing that will root the change. Black people have also been put on notice that in order to uphold it you’ve got to know how it works. So sure listen to Black women but recognize the work that is anti-racist conditioning. Honest work. The work that involves tackling the truth. Even if the truth makes your stomach turn.

Also regarding context....I link threads, post quotes, and connect dots very well. So is it confusion or the unwillingness to call out pea friends? Let’s forget about the Karen savior comment (the one that didn’t happen in this thread but was linked) and talk about the historical inaccuracy passed off as truth. Why was I the only pea who corrected peano? Why do you think she wasn’t gracious enough to acknowledge the new information? Why the smugness about how educated she is without my help AFTER the historical inaccuracy. That doesn’t smack anyone else as rich AF? Just me? Okay 🤷🏾‍♀️

Most Americans know that George Washington owned enslaved people at his Mount Vernon home. But fewer probably know that it was his wife, Martha, who dramatically increased the enslaved population there. When they wed in 1759, George may have owned around 18 people. Martha, one of the richest women in Virginia, owned 84.

The high number of people Martha Washington owned is unusual, but the fact that she owned them is not. Stephanie E. Jones-Rogers, a history professor at the University of California-Berkeley, is compiling data on just how many white women owned slaves in the U.S.; and in the parts of the 1850 and 1860 census data she’s studied so far, white women make up about 40 percents of all slave owners.

Slaveholding parents “typically gave their daughters more enslaved people than land,” says Jones-Rogers, whose book They Were Her Property: White Women as Slave Owners in the American South came out in February 2019. “What this means is that their very identities as white southern women are tied to the actual or the possible ownership of other people.”

White women were active and violent participants in the slave market. They bought, sold, managed and sought the return of enslaved people, in whom they had a vested economic interest. Owning a large number of enslaved people made a woman a better marriage prospect. Once married, white women fought in courts to preserve their legal ownership over enslaved people (as opposed to their husband’s ownership), and often won. “For them, slavery was their freedom,” Jones-Rogers observes in her book.

They Were Her Property upends a lot of older scholarship. For example, previous scholars have argued that most southern white women didn’t buy, sell or inflict violence on enslaved people because this was considered improper for them. But Jones-Rogers argues that white women were actually trained to participate from a very young age.

Their exposure to the slave market is not something that begins in adulthood—it begins in their homes when they’re little girls, sometimes infants, when they’re given enslaved people as gifts,” she says. Citing interviews with formerly enslaved people that the Works Progress Administration—a New Deal agency—conducted in the 1930s, Jones-Rogers shows that part of white children’s training in plantation management involved beating enslaved people.

“It didn’t matter whether the child was large or small,” one woman told the WPA. “They always beat you ’til the blood ran down.”

As adults, white women often tore black women away from their babies so they could nurse the white mistress’ baby instead. To this end, white women placed thousands of advertisements in newspapers looking for enslaved “wet nurses” to feed their own children and created a huge market for enslaved black women who had recently given birth.

Why did these white women want black women to nurse their children? One complained “she felt like continuously having children and continuously nursing her children made her ‘a slave’ to her children—that’s an actual quote,” Jones-Rogers says.

Some black women reported in WPA interviews that their mothers would always give birth around the same time as the white mistress, suggesting that these mistresses were also orchestrating the sexual assault of enslaved women.

“There were instances in which formerly enslaved people did in fact say that their mistresses either sanctioned acts of sexual violence against them that were perpetrated at the hands of white men; or that they orchestrated instances of sexual violence between two enslaved people that they owned, in hopes of producing children from those acts of sexual violence,” Jones-Rogers says.

White women also fought to maintain the wealth and free labor that slavery provided them through the Civil War. As Union troops made their way through the south freeing enslaved people, white women would move enslaved people farther from the soldiers’ path. One woman, Martha Gibbs, even took enslaved people to Texas and forced them to work for her at gunpoint until 1866, a year after slavery’s formal abolition.

After the Civil War, southern white women sought to recreate slavery through exploitative work contracts. Some also wrote books portraying the institution of slavery as gentle and benign—the most famous being Gone With the Wind by Margaret Mitchell, a woman born 35 years after abolition. Yet as Jones-Rogers argues in her book, it was not only white women’s “ideological and sentimental connections” to slavery that made them defend it. Scarlett O'Hara would’ve been protecting her economic interests, too.



NOT POWERLESS.

Born in Ann Arundel County, Maryland, Black was moved to New Orleans at a very young age. By the time he turned six, Mr. Bradford, a carpenter, was his master. While Mr. Bradford was not particularly cruel or prone to punishing Black, his wife was a different story. She beat the young Black both passionately and frequently, sometimes ordering her ten-year-old son to partake either in the physical beatings or to simply degrade Black by spitting in his face. In one particular instance, Mrs. Bradford asked Black to carry a bushel of corn upstairs, and when he could not, she knocked him down with a Johnnycake board, causing his head to lose a quart of blood.

While Black’s story did not occur on a plantation, Mrs. Bradford was in the same position of managing a household as the plantation mistresses were in managing their plantations. Although entirely possible that Mrs. Bradford simply experienced some form of emotional pleasure in beating Black, she held many responsibilities just like plantation wives, meaning that feeling in control was likely of importance to her as well. Beating Black could have confirmed her role in the household for her. Ultimately, wives of slaveholders did not want to demonstrate any loss of power or poise to their inferiors, and the way in which they treated their slaves was a direct reflection of the level of security they felt around the slaves.

This is a really informative article

www.vox.com/platform/amp/2021/1/15/22231079/capitol-riot-women-qanon-white-supremacy


Elizabeth Tyler didn’t have to take her power back from anyone. She was born with it. We’ve got to stop painting white women out to be victims.


Look at the last administration 👀