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Post by DEX on Sept 14, 2020 21:19:44 GMT
Cindy, we have excellent health care that is available to those who can not afford it. We have excellent schools, libraries, cultural events, and resources that are not available in other states. We pay a lot but even being retired I am OK with that.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 14, 2020 21:40:15 GMT
So, since her in MN, we don't get back what we paid in. that would sort of explain why our state taxes are so much higher? because we don't get back in federal? or am I way off? It's really driven by demographics. States with higher income populations will pay more in taxes. States with low income and older populations will receive more back as the main drivers of federal dollars is social security, medicare, medicaid and education dollars to low income schools. Sometimes a state will swing because of disaster relief funding. And some states with high concentrations of federal employees (why the states around DC rarely make the list for least back even though they're relatively higher income and younger). Military bases will also swing numbers. So if you have a relatively high income state without a lot of elderly or poor people, disasters or military bases - or sources for military funding, you're going to send more money to DC then get it back. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 14, 2020 21:49:02 GMT
Cindy, we have excellent health care that is available to those who can not afford it. We have excellent schools, libraries, cultural events, and resources that are not available in other states. We pay a lot but even being retired I am OK with that. That is a good point Dex!! thank you! very true! |
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Post by maryland on Sept 14, 2020 21:50:17 GMT
I am pro-choice all the way. If anyone tries to engage me in a “pro-life” conversation on the subject, I tell them if men could get pregnant, there would be a drive-through abortion clinic on every corner. That usually shuts them up long enough for me to get away. And they would have two weeks paid time off to recover! |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 14, 2020 21:51:36 GMT
It's really driven by demographics. States with higher income populations will pay more in taxes. States with low income and older populations will receive more back as the main drivers of federal dollars is social security, medicare, medicaid and education dollars to low income schools. Sometimes a state will swing because of disaster relief funding. And some states with high concentrations of federal employees (why the states around DC rarely make the list for least back even though they're relatively higher income and younger). Military bases will also swing numbers. So if you have a relatively high income state without a lot of elderly or poor people, disasters or military bases - or sources for military funding, you're going to send more money to DC then get it back. Well, I would say we aren't as high income as a lot of states like NJ,NY,CA, etc, have 1 military base I think,no hurricanes, but do have tornado's. I still wonder why we are so high up there. Up by NJ?? and higher then NY or Cali? |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 14, 2020 22:04:25 GMT
It's really driven by demographics. States with higher income populations will pay more in taxes. States with low income and older populations will receive more back as the main drivers of federal dollars is social security, medicare, medicaid and education dollars to low income schools. Sometimes a state will swing because of disaster relief funding. And some states with high concentrations of federal employees (why the states around DC rarely make the list for least back even though they're relatively higher income and younger). Military bases will also swing numbers. So if you have a relatively high income state without a lot of elderly or poor people, disasters or military bases - or sources for military funding, you're going to send more money to DC then get it back. Well, I would say we aren't as high income as a lot of states like NJ,NY,CA, etc, have 1 military base I think,no hurricanes, but do have tornado's. I still wonder why we are so high up there. Up by NJ?? and higher then NY or Cali? This article is old, but discusses lack of any real federal workforce in Minnesota -couple that with a state which is ranked 7th for people in poverty (ie only 6 states have fewer people in poverty) and you're also a state that's 31st in percentage of older population - and you're just not going to see that kind of federal spending in your state as more states have more old and poor people. www.minnpost.com/dc-dispatches/2013/02/deep-federal-spending-cuts-wont-hurt-minnesota-much-other-states/Compare that to New Mexico which has 4 military bases, 2 national labs, not to mention the dead last for percentage of people in poverty and 12th with percentage of people over 65. ETA and this shows the biggest states for federal contracts with California being #2 and Minnesota middle of the pack gsa.federalschedules.com/resources/most-profitable-states-for-government-contractors/ |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 14, 2020 22:12:34 GMT
I’m a firm believer that the focus, damage, and repercussions is always on the woman, never the men.
This conversation needs to change.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 14, 2020 22:23:38 GMT
Explain this to me better, will you? when you say "get the most back"... People pay taxes to the government/IRS. Is distributed back to the states in various forms of aid. The chart show how much of the monies are paid in by the states and how much is returned to the states in aid. You are in Minnesota .. for every dollar 'you' send in your state gets back $.89. The rest of 'your' dollar goes to other states as listed on the chart. For every dollar the people of Kentucky send in, Kentucky gets back $2.00. I am not guaranteeing that the chart is up to date, but it is close. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 14, 2020 22:29:01 GMT
New Jersey 0.79 Minnesota 0.89 Massachusetts 0.90 New York 0.90 Illinois 0.92 California 0.95 Connecticut 0.99 These states subsidize the rest, some only $.02 up to $2.73. WE more then pay our share. We have paid it almost willingly, but to be treated as if we keep taking, it is WRONG, we are not TAKING! |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 14, 2020 22:30:45 GMT
Thanks everyone! I get it now!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 14, 2020 22:34:15 GMT
Cindy, we have excellent health care that is available to those who can not afford it. We have excellent schools, libraries, cultural events, and resources that are not available in other states. We pay a lot but even being retired I am OK with that. Come to think about it, could that in of itself be called socialism? Some of the states getting the bigger subsidies are the ones who object to ACA which tends to distribute the costs of medical care. They want, but are not willing to give back to the general you! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 3:20:09 GMT
Your periodic reminder that "God" is the biggest abortionist of all w/fertilized eggs (aka "Full Persons") being spontaneously aborted at a rate of approximately 10% of known pregnancies and between 40-60% of fertilizations (most before a woman even knows she's pregnant).
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 15, 2020 15:03:44 GMT
Sorry to add this but another : my body my choice!
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 15, 2020 16:35:48 GMT
Cindy, we have excellent health care that is available to those who can not afford it. We have excellent schools, libraries, cultural events, and resources that are not available in other states. We pay a lot but even being retired I am OK with that. Come to think about it, could that in of itself be called socialism? *The Internationale intensifies* |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 16:52:38 GMT
Sorry to add this but another : my body my choice! Yep. As mentioned above. No one has the right to use your blood, organs or tissue without your continued permission. NO ONE. Not even your child. Same with a pregnant woman. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 15, 2020 16:56:46 GMT
O/T Have there been organised parody rallies to these anti-maskers in the US? "No more seatbelts!"
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 15, 2020 16:59:02 GMT
Sorry to add this but another : my body my choice! Yep. As mentioned above. No one has the right to use your blood, organs or tissue without your continued permission. NO ONE. Not even your child. Same with a pregnant woman. I just finished rewatching Orphan Black so my brain's still resisting basic rights on these matters right now. "Oh no, they're all property of Dyad, even Kira if the mitochondrial DNA has replicated the genetic barcode!"  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 15, 2020 18:42:19 GMT
O/T Have there been organised parody rallies to these anti-maskers in the US? "No more seatbelts!" Not safe as in the anti-maskers would try to undo the seatbelt laws. We all know many of them are already not wearing seatbelts while tooling around in their big bad pickups! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 19:59:29 GMT
O/T Have there been organised parody rallies to these anti-maskers in the US? "No more seatbelts!" Not safe as in the anti-maskers would try to undo the seatbelt laws. We all know many of them are already not wearing seatbelts while tooling around in their big bad pickups! I'm waiting for them to decide 'No more pants! Pants go against my freedumb to allow my god-given body to be free!' Pants are the masks of the butt. You wear pants to cover a couple of holes for health and safety reasons. During a pandemic, you wear a maks to cover a couple of other holes, for similar reasons. |
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