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Post by inkedup on Sept 20, 2020 18:08:48 GMT
Unfortunately though only Police lives matter all the time. POC lives don't matter and it is evident in the killings of them. If they truly mattered, police wouldn't be going on shooting sprees. Why can only police lives defend themselves? See my point? No I don't. It's full of lies. Police are vilified for defending themselves If they truly mattered, police wouldn't be going on shooting sprees. That is an outright lie. It's also puts their lives at risk. Perpetuating that lie is part of the ongoing problem. I blame the media and Democratic politicians for feeding you that lie. People like Biden saying a Caucasian wouldn't be stopped for a routine traffic stop. The media jumping to calling any police shooting of a black person as racially motivated as soon as it happens, before we have any facts and the politicians publicly going right along with it and repeating it to anyone who will listen. Yeah. It's the media's fault statistics show that people of color receive "justice" at a disproportionate rate. It's the media's fault police are over militarized and under trained. Can y'all send out some sort reverse bat call and crawl back under the toilet you've been meeting in for the past few months? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 18:59:10 GMT
Yeah, no meaness, no hate....we just make that crap up.🤔
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 19:42:30 GMT
The tone deafness goes both ways and I find it comical some statements that are made. Some PEAS like to say over and over y'all don't hear me speaking the POC names that were killed. That I show no remorse, concern or outrage. The same can be said about you! Without looking it up on the internet, can you say the names of the LEO's who have been MURDERED this year protecting communties? So, yes I haven't chanted or screamed the POC names. I honor them by volunteering in my community, by supporting change and by allowing people a chance to be decent. When a person is murdered, it MATTERS, regardless of their skin color their life mattered. Take a moment today and be a postive voice a postive action in your community/the world I know we will... Unfortunately though only Police lives matter all the time. POC lives don't matter and it is evident in the killings of them. If they truly mattered, police wouldn't be going on shooting sprees. Why can only police lives defend themselves? See my point? I think you are confused when you talk about “shooting sprees”. The only people who go on shooting sprees are angry white guys with AR-15s that go into our schools and our churches and even night clubs and kill as many innocent people as possible. And let’s don’t forget the white guy shooting people from a hotel room that had gathered for a concert. How many people did that guy wound and kill? That is a shooting spree. Were any of these guys police officers? Don’t think so. It was absolutely wrong and even criminal that an asshole cop felt it was acceptable to put his knee on a black man’s neck while other cops stood around watching. Or shooting an unarmed black man in the back. IMO only cowards do that. Just like it’s unacceptable for individuals to go “cop hunting”. If you don’t see or understand that both are wrong then you’re part of the problem and not the solution. There is no question that there are issues in some police departments that have gone on way too long and need to be addressed. And sometimes police officers can be their own worst enemies. But to make the assumption that because of the actions of some cops automatically means all cops are bad is not only stupid it’s dangerous for the public in general. I say this as someone who doesn’t know anyone in law enforcement but as someone who has been keeping a mental tally of police actions ever since the Asian lady with vegetable peeler was shot by a cop over 40 years ago. And for the most part I have felt the police have done an ok job and when we get rid of the racism that exists in some police departments and provide better training then I’m sure as a whole we can say they are doing a good job if not a great job. That doesn’t mean that some officers aren’t doing great jobs now, it just means the bad apples are dragging down the good work being done now, I believe, by a majority of the officers. |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 20, 2020 19:49:20 GMT
Unfortunately though only Police lives matter all the time. POC lives don't matter and it is evident in the killings of them. If they truly mattered, police wouldn't be going on shooting sprees. Why can only police lives defend themselves? See my point? I think you are confused when you talk about “shooting sprees”. The only people who go on shooting sprees are angry white guys with AR-15s that go into our schools and our churches and even night clubs and kill as many innocent people as possible. And let’s don’t forget the white guy shooting people from a hotel room that had gathered for a concert. How many people did that guy wound and kill? That is a shooting spree. Were any of these guys police officers? Don’t think so. It was absolutely wrong and even criminal that an asshole cop felt it was acceptable to put his knee on a black man’s neck while other cops stood around watching. Or shooting an unarmed black man in the back. IMO only cowards do that. Just like it’s unacceptable for individuals to go “cop hunting”. If you don’t see or understand that both are wrong then you’re part of the problem and not the solution. There is no question that there are issues in some police departments that have gone on way too long and need to be addressed. And sometimes police officers can be their own worst enemies. But to make the assumption that because of the actions of some cops automatically means all cops are bad is not only stupid it’s dangerous for the public in general. I say this as someone who doesn’t know anyone in law enforcement but as someone who has been keeping a mental tally of police actions ever since the Asian lady with vegetable peeler was shot by a cop over 40 years ago. And for the most part I have felt the police have done an ok job and when we get rid of the racism that exists in some police departments and provide better training then I’m sure as a whole we can say they are doing a good job if not a great job. That doesn’t mean that some officers aren’t doing great jobs now, it just means the bad apples are dragging down the good work being done now, I believe, by a majority of the officers. Perfectly stated. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 20:33:32 GMT
Unfortunately though only Police lives matter all the time. POC lives don't matter and it is evident in the killings of them. If they truly mattered, police wouldn't be going on shooting sprees. Why can only police lives defend themselves? See my point? I think you are confused when you talk about “shooting sprees”. The only people who go on shooting sprees are angry white guys with AR-15s that go into our schools and our churches and even night clubs and kill as many innocent people as possible. And let’s don’t forget the white guy shooting people from a hotel room that had gathered for a concert. How many people did that guy wound and kill? That is a shooting spree. Were any of these guys police officers? Don’t think so. It was absolutely wrong and even criminal that an asshole cop felt it was acceptable to put his knee on a black man’s neck while other cops stood around watching. Or shooting an unarmed black man in the back. IMO only cowards do that. Just like it’s unacceptable for individuals to go “cop hunting”. If you don’t see or understand that both are wrong then you’re part of the problem and not the solution. There is no question that there are issues in some police departments that have gone on way too long and need to be addressed. And sometimes police officers can be their own worst enemies. But to make the assumption that because of the actions of some cops automatically means all cops are bad is not only stupid it’s dangerous for the public in general. I say this as someone who doesn’t know anyone in law enforcement but as someone who has been keeping a mental tally of police actions ever since the Asian lady with vegetable peeler was shot by a cop over 40 years ago. And for the most part I have felt the police have done an ok job and when we get rid of the racism that exists in some police departments and provide better training then I’m sure as a whole we can say they are doing a good job if not a great job. That doesn’t mean that some officers aren’t doing great jobs now, it just means the bad apples are dragging down the good work being done now, I believe, by a majority of the officers. 14 shots to ones back is a fucking shooting spree. |
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Post by LiLi on Sept 22, 2020 0:58:15 GMT
Judging a whole group of people and using single instances to prove a negative point about whole group of people is exactly what YOU are asking people not to do with LEOs, is it not? Hypocrite, much? PLus that article states NO DETAILS on who or why. It also says the car was PARKED. Which would mean, it was not an attack on people, correct? Which is exactly what you are trying to imply? This attack seems to be against the system, not an attack on people. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 1:29:48 GMT
Judging a whole group of people and using single instances to prove a negative point about whole group of people is exactly what YOU are asking people not to do with LEOs, is it not? Hypocrite, much? PLus that article states NO DETAILS on who or why. It also says the car was PARKED. Which would mean, it was not an attack on people, correct? Which is exactly what you are trying to imply? This attack seems to be against the system, not an attack on people. Save your typing. She can't see the hypocrisy. |
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Post by garcia5050 on Sept 22, 2020 1:54:09 GMT
I let the numbers ease my mind.
I’m an LEO wife who doesn’t let his job consume me. Statistically speaking, the chances of my husband coming home every night are pretty high. I don’t get bogged down by what ifs. I refuse to let fear take me over, and it’s certainly not going to taint my world view.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 2:15:32 GMT
Judging a whole group of people and using single instances to prove a negative point about whole group of people is exactly what YOU are asking people not to do with LEOs, is it not? Hypocrite, much? PLus that article states NO DETAILS on who or why. It also says the car was PARKED. Which would mean, it was not an attack on people, correct? Which is exactly what you are trying to imply? This attack seems to be against the system, not an attack on people. Save your typing. She can't see the hypocrisy. Or maybe she is making a point that some are too closed minded to see. There is no question that POC just going about their lives should never ever feel the need to fear some police officers. I saw a video that just broke my heart. A young black boy was playing basketball in his front yard when he saw a police car coming down the road. When he did he started to move so he was out of line sight of the car. No one should ever have to do that in this country. And at the same time it’s just plain wrong that some feel it’s their right to go cop hunting because of the actions of some bad cops and if they can’t find a cop to shot they think it’s AOK to destroy police equipment. IMO, noting is going to get done to resolve these issues until all parties look at all sides. |
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Post by LiLi on Sept 22, 2020 5:52:52 GMT
Save your typing. She can't see the hypocrisy. Or maybe she is making a point that some are too closed minded to see. There is no question that POC just going about their lives should never ever feel the need to fear some police officers. I saw a video that just broke my heart. A young black boy was playing basketball in his front yard when he saw a police car coming down the road. When he did he started to move so he was out of line sight of the car. No one should ever have to do that in this country. And at the same time it’s just plain wrong that some feel it’s their right to go cop hunting because of the actions of some bad cops and if they can’t find a cop to shot they think it’s AOK to destroy police equipment. IMO, noting is going to get done to resolve these issues until all parties look at all sides. I agree with you, of course that is not okay. LEOwife was implying this article was about something completely different than it was. She accuses others of doing that to LEO. What she did here was exactly that. That is what I was attempting point out. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 8:27:36 GMT
And again, assuming facts not in evidence, putting words in my mouth.
Someone said that police are not being targeted and the majority of protesters are peaceful. Ummm not true. While yes, some protesters are peaceful many are not. The level of lawlessness has allowed alot to think the law, society rules and basic human kindness are not required anymore.
The point and let me be CRYSTAL clear is that 6 months ago LEO killings, setting LEO cars on fire, shooting at LEO'S, screaming F12, Die pigs, attacking LEO families and on and on were the minority not the majority.
But my tone deafness and my hyproticty is all I am about according to some.
Let me ask when all good LEO leave, who will come when you call 911, when your being robbed, beat up, home broken into,your child is missing, someone is raped, when someone is murderd, hit by a drunk driver and on and on.
Charles H Webb PH.D-
""There is no nice way to arrest a potentially dangerous, combative suspect. The police are our bodyguards; our hired fists, batons and guns. We pay them to do the dirty work of protecting us. The work we're too afraid, too unskilled, or too civilized to do ourselves".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 8:39:12 GMT
" I saw a video that just broke my heart. A young black boy was playing basketball in his front yard when he saw a police car coming down the road. When he did he started to move so he was out of line sight of the car. No one should ever have to do that in this country".
Thank you for bringing this up, this is a huge issue. One those in LEO face everyday and yes it's the word no one like to talk about, race.
Why did the boy leave? Was he scared...why because he has been watching the small percent of bad LEO"s on TV, has his family told him ACAB, has his family had an interaction with LEO that has skewed his opinion.
That would equate to my daughters doing the same to POC, as we have had POC at our HOME and in public screaming hate, threating, and things that would curl your toes.
So, it would be understandable that my girls avoid all POC, but they don't because we have taught them that the actions of a few do not dicate all. That yes right now, it looks like more people hate than care and that hate has opened a doorway for bad things. They see on TV /social media the hate, the attacka, things hurled at LEO'S, the shootings, the fires, the protesters. The conversations of giving everyone the benfit of the doubt are harder and harder as I find us being more cautious about strangers due to the actions of many.
It's a shame but has become our reality.
But we will contuine to try to see each person for theirselves, which is becoming difficult with each and every attack against LEO and their families.
It's disgraceful that anyone should be afraid to be in their own front yard...POC, LEO kids...anyone!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 9:17:59 GMT
Unfortunately though only Police lives matter all the time. POC lives don't matter and it is evident in the killings of them. If they truly mattered, police wouldn't be going on shooting sprees. Why can only police lives defend themselves? See my point?
It was absolutely wrong and even criminal that an asshole cop felt it was acceptable to put his knee on a black man’s neck while other cops stood around watching. Or shooting an unarmed black man in the back. IMO only cowards do that.
Just like it’s unacceptable for individuals to go “cop hunting”.
If you don’t see or understand that both are wrong then you’re part of the problem and not the solution.
There is no question that there are issues in some police departments that have gone on way too long and need to be addressed. And sometimes police officers can be their own worst enemies. But to make the assumption that because of the actions of some cops automatically means all cops are bad is not only stupid it’s dangerous for the public in general.
I say this as someone who doesn’t know anyone in law enforcement but as someone who has been keeping a mental tally of police actions ever since the Asian lady with vegetable peeler was shot by a cop over 40 years ago. And for the most part I have felt the police have done an ok job and when we get rid of the racism that exists in some police departments and provide better training then I’m sure as a whole we can say they are doing a good job if not a great job. That doesn’t mean that some officers aren’t doing great jobs now, it just means the bad apples are dragging down the good work being done now, I believe, by a majority of the officers.THIS! ALL THIS!!!!! I have so much, so much respect for LEO and first responders because I have worked with some of the most fantastic, big-hearted people over the years in my volunteer services. Our communities are being fractured by all of this. We need a president that brings this country together....not throw gasoline on the fire. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 11:07:12 GMT
Right here....PEACEFUL is not a hubcap being thrown at a LEO's head, Peacful is not spitting at LEO'S, blocking LEO's cars, shoving LEO'S,trying to blind them with lasers, standing face to face screaming haye, threating families and so much more. It is not the minority but the majority. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 11:12:14 GMT
www.facebook.com/VinniePolitanCourtTV/videos/3819014948127526/?extid=hzzfHFvNCpKTqeRnSo, as I am tone deaf according to some. Tell me what could have been done differently. Try to be civil but honest. My question is when did breaking the law become OK? I am not ignoring, I will respond later but really...let's hear some realistic responses. This is the new norm, the other day something like this happend several time during patrols.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 22, 2020 11:52:06 GMT
Yes, given your rants you still remain tone deaf even with your new posts.
Peas here have REPEATEDLY said that IT IS NOT OKAY To be harming targeting LEO. Why do you keep bringing up the opposite—what literally NO ONE has said?
But you’re stuck on histrionics and drama.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 22, 2020 11:52:35 GMT
I let the numbers ease my mind. I’m an LEO wife who doesn’t let his job consume me. Statistically speaking, the chances of my husband coming home every night are pretty high. I don’t get bogged down by what ifs. I refuse to let fear take me over, and it’s certainly not going to taint my world view. 🥰🥰🥰 |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 22, 2020 11:54:54 GMT
www.facebook.com/VinniePolitanCourtTV/videos/3819014948127526/?extid=hzzfHFvNCpKTqeRnSo, as I am tone deaf according to some. Tell me what could have been done differently. Try to be civil but honest. My question is when did breaking the law become OK? I am not ignoring, I will respond later but really...let's hear some realistic responses. This is the new norm, the other day something like this happend several time during patrols. Most/majority of the peas HAVE been civil and honest. You keep attacking them telling them that they’re mean, nasty.... You want to be realistic? I’ve asked you questions about LEO’s being violent or killing people but you’ve refused to answer. Should George Floyd be dead? Philandro Castile? NO ONE HERE has condoned breaking the law. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 22, 2020 11:58:24 GMT
Right here....PEACEFUL is not a hubcap being thrown at a LEO's head, Peacful is not spitting at LEO'S, blocking LEO's cars, shoving LEO'S,trying to blind them with lasers, standing face to face screaming haye, threating families and so much more. It is not the minority but the majority. This is just not factually true. —The majority of protestors ARE peaceful human beings. Those who become violent and break the law should be held accountable. Same for LEO’s who hurt and kill people. No one here thinks that throwing a hubcap at anyone is “peaceful” but you assume we do? |
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Post by lindas on Sept 22, 2020 12:14:19 GMT
www.facebook.com/VinniePolitanCourtTV/videos/3819014948127526/?extid=hzzfHFvNCpKTqeRnSo, as I am tone deaf according to some. Tell me what could have been done differently. Try to be civil but honest. My question is when did breaking the law become OK? I am not ignoring, I will respond later but really...let's hear some realistic responses. This is the new norm, the other day something like this happend several time during patrols. With all due respect this video isn’t making your point very well. Did he break the law, yes. Was the mom over the top, yes but given the current climate I can somewhat understand her reaction. What I don’t understand is the action of the officer. She had his info, she should have gone back to her car and ran it then gave him a ticket. In this instance I feel that both parties created a situation that didn’t need to happen. I think this story better enforces your point that police have a target on their backs right now. link |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 13:59:53 GMT
And again, assuming facts not in evidence, putting words in my mouth. Someone said that police are not being targeted and the majority of protesters are peaceful. Ummm not true. While yes, some protesters are peaceful many are not. The level of lawlessness has allowed alot to think the law, society rules and basic human kindness are not required anymore. The point and let me be CRYSTAL clear is that 6 months ago LEO killings, setting LEO cars on fire, shooting at LEO'S, screaming F12, Die pigs, attacking LEO families and on and on were the minority not the majority. But my tone deafness and my hyproticty is all I am about according to some. Let me ask when all good LEO leave, who will come when you call 911, when your being robbed, beat up, home broken into,your child is missing, someone is raped, when someone is murderd, hit by a drunk driver and on and on. Charles H Webb PH.D- ""There is no nice way to arrest a potentially dangerous, combative suspect. The police are our bodyguards; our hired fists, batons and guns. We pay them to do the dirty work of protecting us. The work we're too afraid, too unskilled, or too civilized to do ourselves". Ummmm. Yes true. MILLIONS of people have protested. Thousands of people (maybe) have been violent. That's the MAJORITY being peaceful. Numbers and all. PS - |
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Post by peano on Sept 22, 2020 14:39:14 GMT
The fact that you doubled down on your lie that the majority of protesters are violent, makes me question everything else you write and leads me to not waste any more time on your argument. I would suggest you need to enlarge the diversity of news sources you follow. The one(s) you are currently using are not serving you well, and are making you look foolish and uninformed.
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Post by PLurker on Sept 22, 2020 15:01:05 GMT
Right here....PEACEFUL is not a hubcap being thrown at a LEO's head, Peacful is not spitting at LEO'S, blocking LEO's cars, shoving LEO'S,trying to blind them with lasers, standing face to face screaming haye, threating families and so much more. It is not the minority but the majority.I am on the side of peaceful protesters and good cops. But the bolded above shows your blind spot. If I said the same for police because of bad experiences I've seen or experienced with LEOs I too would be wrong. And if you think about it, protesters FAR out number LEOs. (I among them). If the majority were not peaceful, things would be a lot worse than they are now. ETA protests are mainly looking for justice when none seems to be coming or pursued. While I mourn the loss of LEO lives, justice seeking is almost automatic for them. Not so much for the lives lost that protesters are standing up for. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 22, 2020 15:21:03 GMT
I let the numbers ease my mind. I’m an LEO wife who doesn’t let his job consume me. Statistically speaking, the chances of my husband coming home every night are pretty high. I don’t get bogged down by what ifs. I refuse to let fear take me over, and it’s certainly not going to taint my world view. As sensible a person that you are I am certain your husband must be a good guy. Thank him for me. |
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 22, 2020 15:34:32 GMT
The fact that you doubled down on your lie that the majority of protesters are violent, makes me question everything else you write and leads me to not waste any more time on your argument. I would suggest you need to enlarge the diversity of news sources you follow. The one(s) you are currently using are not serving you well, and are making you look foolish and uninformed. A report from Princeton University group shows protests ARE mostly peaceful. They reveal that nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country -making the "mostly peaceful" mantra insignificant. |
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