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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 14:40:37 GMT
Reminds me of the story of the man who was asking what kind of town he had moved to. The old timer asked him back about the town he had moved there from. He described it as awful, nothing fun to do, and full of backbiting mean people. The old timer nodded wisely and told him he'd find the new town to be much the same. Several days later, another newcomer ask the old timer the same question about what the town was like. The old timer responded back with the same query about where he'd come from. The newcomer said his former town was wonderful, full of opportunities, and filled with friendly kind people. The old timer nodded wisely and told him he'd find this town much the same way. I think MizIndependent gave the old timer's response when she said you might get out of this what you put into it. But, hey, if any of you bitter old hags want to come tell me I'm wrong... Great analogy! Sometimes this place is a car wreck I can’t stop rubbernecking. Sometimes it’s my gut laugh. Sometimes it teaches me restraint. And sometimes I learn new and amazing things. It all depends on my mindset when I first login how I might engage. I’m glad, sad, mad, bored, looking to be educated or just entertained.
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Oct 29, 2020 14:51:06 GMT
Reminds me of the story of the man who was asking what kind of town he had moved to. The old timer asked him back about the town he had moved there from. He described it as awful, nothing fun to do, and full of backbiting mean people. The old timer nodded wisely and told him he'd find the new town to be much the same. Several days later, another newcomer ask the old timer the same question about what the town was like. The old timer responded back with the same query about where he'd come from. The newcomer said his former town was wonderful, full of opportunities, and filled with friendly kind people. The old timer nodded wisely and told him he'd find this town much the same way. I think MizIndependent gave the old timer's response when she said you might get out of this what you put into it. But, hey, if any of you bitter old hags want to come tell me I'm wrong... I have used that story a lot of times. It's got a whole lot of truth in it.
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Post by sasha on Oct 29, 2020 15:54:12 GMT
Just speaking for myself, I love the bickering and sniping here. Especially when it’s political. The train wrecks, the clusterf*cks, the self-righteousness, the condescension, the bitchiness, the takedowns, the bar brawls, the hypocrisies, the mudslinging, the hairflips, etc. Sometimes I don’t bother watching TV at night because the drama is better here. That said, it’s equally attractive because of the caring – when a pea is suffering, or someone she loved had passed, or she’s getting divorced, or she’s ill, or she simply just can’t manage to get up in the morning anymore…whatever…Peadom comes to the rescue. And the rest? When a pea can’t figure out something? When a pea wants validation and a boost? When a frustrated pea just wants to vent? When a pea needs prayers? Peadom. There’s nothing too banal or too complex that Peadom won’t and can’t handle. The worst in us? Yeah, probably. The best in us? Most definitely. Because we’re just humans. 1000x yes to this. When I discovered the old 2peas NSBR, it was the bickering and sniping that drew me in. And the humor. I think I am so old now that I enjoy those threads that go off the rails but I don't have the underlying angst I used to have where it helped me blow off steam when I participated/started in pile ons.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Oct 29, 2020 16:04:39 GMT
Yes we get it Trumps sucks, yes he does and do we really need 100’s of threads saying that. However for me, I do scroll past the political posts, but for some reason, just seeing all the red fills me with angst. This is where I'm at. Anyone is fully free to post what they want, but when I can pop in and it looks like the front page of CNN it's frustrating. If I wanted to read CNN or Twitter, I'm certainly adult enough to go there myself to read any headline news. Who's mind are you trying to change with all these anti-Trump posts? You certainly don't want differing opinions to join in, so why post so much? To me it's all just virtue signaling at this point because only the ones who agree with any OP tend to respond. We get it! And I think the majority of current peas around here agree these days. If I was around anyone who pretty much only talked politics all the damn time (like some posters here), I wouldn't want to be around them. Doesn't matter if they have the same opinions as me or not. Same with religion. I don't care about your opinions on either and I don't care what you think about mine. No one is going to change any persons mind on either. I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat.
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Oct 29, 2020 16:08:17 GMT
i loved the response of monklady123 -- I had a "mean girl" response to another post . I left my fingers in my lap for that one! I generally disagree with the original posit - but then I'm not a big poster and I love the wide variety of the people on this board, the overall generosity, knowledge, intelligence and wit (I am BIG on enjoying the wit) --- There are people here whom I don't enjoy -- I ignore them and move on. There are positions with which I do not agree -- same as on the street -- I ignore them, put the people on the list of those I don't enjoy, and move on. It is hard times, Pea-ple. Real Hard Times.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 29, 2020 16:45:51 GMT
See, this attitude is what I don't understand. Yes, some threads have fights going on. So why do you read those? I just scanned down the first page of the board and here are threads that I think are not likely to be "ugly": -- putting up xmas trees -- hurricanes -- what do Dutch people living here miss? -- trick or treating -- games -- Animal Crossing --weekly reading -- what's for dinner -- xmas gift ideas -- International Quilt Festival -- face cream -- decluttering and organizing -- October crafting -- TV shows -- elderly pets -- happy birthdays -- scams -- medical questions -- financial questions -- antiques -- Library Lady's interesting information Read (and participate) in any of those and you won't see too much "ugly". Not even between the Real Tree people and the Fake Tree people. I hate this type of response with the heat of a million suns. It is condescendingly tone deaf, head in the sand and ass in the air. No. It is not.
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Post by Loydene on Oct 29, 2020 17:38:56 GMT
I hate this type of response with the heat of a million suns. It is condescendingly tone deaf, head in the sand and ass in the air. No. It is not. I thought it was an excellent response! I also just edited out more snark. I do LOVE that edit button! It makes me nicer.
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Post by gar on Oct 29, 2020 17:57:31 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. Or, you and anyone else who feels the same, could actually add to the board yourself by posting lots of threads abut other interesting/fun things to redress the balance. This has been said so often, most recently by MichyM I think, but sitting back and basically saying "Hmmfff, no one is entertaining me" is ridiculous and unfair. Instead of just coming here to read and relying on what other people post, give something back, contribute and make the board more of what you want....it's open to anyone.
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Post by maryannscraps on Oct 29, 2020 18:15:48 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. I just noticed your peaname and wish that you'd post something related to paddling. I have lots of interests -- politics, science, and paddling being three of them. I'd definitely add to a paddling thread.
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River
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Post by River on Oct 29, 2020 18:27:43 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. I just noticed your peaname and wish that you'd post something related to paddling. I have lots of interests -- politics, science, and paddling being three of them. I'd definitely add to a paddling thread. Me too! That's actually where my pea name comes from, I'm always on a river somewhere.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 29, 2020 18:35:51 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. you CAN do this. It's somewhere in your profile in the list of people you have blocked... 'don't show new threads started by this member' or something like that. That's why there are some threads that I don't ever post on, even though I might have a response- because they were started by someone I have blocked, and I can't see them when I'm logged in. On the board, it shows something like: 'this thread was started by someone you have blocked.'
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Oct 29, 2020 18:46:00 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. Or, you and anyone else who feels the same, could actually add to the board yourself by posting lots of threads abut other interesting/fun things to redress the balance. This has been said so often, most recently by MichyM I think, but sitting back and basically saying "Hmmfff, no one is entertaining me" is ridiculous and unfair. Instead of just coming here to read and relying on what other people post, give something back, contribute and make the board more of what you want....it's open to anyone. Oh brother, I never said it was anyone's job around here to entertain me and it was unfair. What I said is I pop in here most days, see a full wall of red politics tags and pop right back out. I don't even bother attempting to read in between all the politics posts to get to the good stuff to actually have a response too. Maybe I should actually try harder on those days by starting new posts and bumping others, but honestly it's exhausting weeding through it all (on most days). I don't have the time or the energy to even want to. Other days I can pop in and its VERY obvious other peas are attempting to do this very thing by bumping and starting nonpolitical posts. If I'm lucky enough to have time on those days I do attempt to take the time to enjoy and respond when I can. But then they all start right back up. Lather, rinse, repeat. Which is why I find myself here less and less and I don't think I'm alone in that. And probably the very reason why there are so many political posts these days. Just fewer nonpolitical peas or peas just tired of most posts evolving around Trump on here. We just stop posting all together and walk away in hopes it will be better on another day. Again, if I wanted to read CNN headline news or Twitter feeds, I can go to those sites myself. I don't come to 2peas to get my daily quota of anti-trump. There are a million other places I can go to get that...pretty much anywhere on the internet.
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Post by julie5 on Oct 29, 2020 18:50:00 GMT
I’ll take my licks for being bitchy in the recent past. I’m learning o take that as a cue to get off the internet as do something productive. Being mean on the internet doesn’t solve anything.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Oct 29, 2020 18:51:49 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. I just noticed your peaname and wish that you'd post something related to paddling. I have lots of interests -- politics, science, and paddling being three of them. I'd definitely add to a paddling thread. Me too! That's actually where my pea name comes from, I'm always on a river somewhere. I recently changed my name here since I was tired of having my original one. I know I've chatted plenty here about paddling before! We've had paddleboards for a few years, but got sit in kayaks this year and had the BEST summer ever with them! It's now too cold to paddle in these parts (had 7 inches of snow last weekend), so now it's time for winter sports. Although I think Covid is going to put a damper on our ice skating every week this winter, so we have to come up with something else.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 29, 2020 18:52:28 GMT
I’ll take my licks for being bitchy in the recent past. I’m learning o take that as a cue to get off the internet as do something productive. Being mean on the internet doesn’t solve anything. not agreeing with you being bitchy, julie- just agreeing that when I get bitchy that means I need to get off the internet and do something else.
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Post by gar on Oct 29, 2020 18:54:52 GMT
Oh brother, I never said it was anyone's job around here to entertain me and it was unfair. No, you didn't say that specifically but you did say you pop in and don't like what you see...and leave, or you see others are starting non-political posts but they're getting swamped. The end result is the same - you don't like what other people post so you don't stick around and contribute apart from the odd post. I know it might feel like you're posting against the tide but if all those you suspect of doing the same as you did more posting things would be different. Be the change as they say!
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Oct 29, 2020 18:55:39 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. you CAN do this. It's somewhere in your profile in the list of people you have blocked... 'don't show new threads started by this member' or something like that. That's why there are some threads that I don't ever post on, even though I might have a response- because they were started by someone I have blocked, and I can't see them when I'm logged in. On the board, it shows something like: 'this thread was started by someone you have blocked.' I attempted this a few weeks ago and it didn't work. I still saw every new thread on the front page created by the one person who I blocked. It only worked on blocking their responses within a thread. So I unblocked because it didn't do what I wanted. I'll go back and try again though. I did it on my desktop computer, so it should show me all the blocking options, right? Or are there better blocking options on the Taptalk app (which I hated using)?
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 29, 2020 18:58:59 GMT
I dunno- I do most of my Peaing on my laptop. It works for me; maybe you have to update the setting, log out, and log back in again, or something?
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Post by hop2 on Oct 29, 2020 19:20:09 GMT
I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. you CAN do this. It's somewhere in your profile in the list of people you have blocked... 'don't show new threads started by this member' or something like that. That's why there are some threads that I don't ever post on, even though I might have a response- because they were started by someone I have blocked, and I can't see them when I'm logged in. On the board, it shows something like: 'this thread was started by someone you have blocked.' it doesn’t work when using your phone though so se might not realize it’s there
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Post by hop2 on Oct 29, 2020 19:21:57 GMT
I’ll take my licks for being bitchy in the recent past. I’m learning o take that as a cue to get off the internet as do something productive. Being mean on the internet doesn’t solve anything. It’s funny how the people who admit They might have been bitchy are the ones I can’t recall being bitchy. 😂
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Post by Merge on Oct 29, 2020 19:43:40 GMT
Yes we get it Trumps sucks, yes he does and do we really need 100’s of threads saying that. However for me, I do scroll past the political posts, but for some reason, just seeing all the red fills me with angst. This is where I'm at. Anyone is fully free to post what they want, but when I can pop in and it looks like the front page of CNN it's frustrating. If I wanted to read CNN or Twitter, I'm certainly adult enough to go there myself to read any headline news. Who's mind are you trying to change with all these anti-Trump posts? You certainly don't want differing opinions to join in, so why post so much? To me it's all just virtue signaling at this point because only the ones who agree with any OP tend to respond. We get it! And I think the majority of current peas around here agree these days. If I was around anyone who pretty much only talked politics all the damn time (like some posters here), I wouldn't want to be around them. Doesn't matter if they have the same opinions as me or not. Same with religion. I don't care about your opinions on either and I don't care what you think about mine. No one is going to change any persons mind on either. I really wish this site blocked the new threads started by people on your block list. One could easily get rid of 99% of the political stuff right off the bat. You can like what you like, of course, but some people do like to discuss politics. And I’m not sure why we should be constrained by those who don’t like it. As has been said repeatedly, if you like different topics, start and post to threads about them. Political posters do not make posts to trash those who like fluff posts. You can have all the game threads and reality show threads you want. I dislike those threads, but I don’t come on here and tell people to stop posting them. (And FWIW, I don’t want to be around people who talk nothing but fluff nonsense. My personality type doesn’t enjoy small talk. But neither of us should have to conform to the other’s preference.)
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Oct 29, 2020 20:12:57 GMT
As has been said repeatedly, if you like different topics, start and post to threads about them. My biggest thing about starting new threads is I have limited time on most days and I'm not on here full time like a lot of peas seem to be. When someone starts a thread and doesn't come back for responses (either at all or in a timely matter) I've seen the pile on and how they are treated. So my worry is I will start a thread, get busy with work or life and forget to come back in a timely matter. I'd more than likely come back to a full pile on and quickly become another of the "oh she just posts and runs" peas, neither of which would be deserved. And you can't tell me it wouldn't happen, because I've seen it numerous times. So when I do start a new thread, I'm pretty careful that I have the time to devote to it. In fact, just responding to this thread has me already past my quitting time and normal workout time, so now I'm really stressed about any more responses I may not have time to come back to today. I know that's on me, but it's my personality and I don't ignore people in real life or online. It really wouldn't matter to me what single topic of posts took over NSBR, I still wouldn't like it. If it changed to mostly religion, I'd be out. Changed to all recipes or all game threads, I'd be out. I'm here for the variety of topics from all over the world, but most days it's mostly a wall of politics. I have plenty of specific hobby groups to enjoy to my hearts content. Why not keep most of it to the Trump catch all thread that is already there like the recipe, game threads and multiple other topics can and do?
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zella
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Post by zella on Oct 29, 2020 20:25:53 GMT
I think a lot of people are saying stuff online that they would never say if that person was in front of them but we’re all grownups we should be able to take a little heat . I think there's enough of that in daily life; I'd WAY rather that this board was a safe place. I do find it's more enjoyable for me now I have certain people, who tend to either start or exacerbate nastiness, blocked. Much better.
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Post by ellaknits on Oct 29, 2020 20:44:22 GMT
I guess I think the board just brings out the "us" in us? Like the old timer and the town story. Where ever we go, there we are.
I like this board because for the most part, it's full of a lot of people who are really really different from me. On current events and issues, you guys will post things I had never thought of or a perspective I wouldn't have thought of. The older I get, the more I realize I don't think outside the box well. I'm not stupid, but I'm not a very creative thinker. My therapist says I see things quite black and white - I come here for the gray area. It's very useful! I will mull something over and then think, hm....wonder what the peas say.
I don't actually notice much nastiness, but I think I skip over a lot of things. Certain words or a tone in a post and I just move on to the next one.
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Post by Merge on Oct 29, 2020 20:51:47 GMT
As has been said repeatedly, if you like different topics, start and post to threads about them. My biggest thing about starting new threads is I have limited time on most days and I'm not on here full time like a lot of peas seem to be. When someone starts a thread and doesn't come back for responses (either at all or in a timely matter) I've seen the pile on and how they are treated. So my worry is I will start a thread, get busy with work or life and forget to come back in a timely matter. I'd more than likely come back to a full pile on and quickly become another of the "oh she just posts and runs" peas, neither of which would be deserved. And you can't tell me it wouldn't happen, because I've seen it numerous times. So when I do start a new thread, I'm pretty careful that I have the time to devote to it. In fact, just responding to this thread has me already past my quitting time and normal workout time, so now I'm really stressed about any more responses I may not have time to come back to today. I know that's on me, but it's my personality and I don't ignore people in real life or online. It really wouldn't matter to me what single topic of posts took over NSBR, I still wouldn't like it. If it changed to mostly religion, I'd be out. Changed to all recipes or all game threads, I'd be out. I'm here for the variety of topics from all over the world, but most days it's mostly a wall of politics. I have plenty of specific hobby groups to enjoy to my hearts content. Why not keep most of it to the Trump catch all thread that is already there like the recipe, game threads and multiple other topics can and do? OK, well, maybe this isn't the forum for you. Since we're unwilling to police ourselves to suit your preferences. No one is forced to be here.
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 29, 2020 21:09:02 GMT
As has been said repeatedly, if you like different topics, start and post to threads about them. My biggest thing about starting new threads is I have limited time on most days and I'm not on here full time like a lot of peas seem to be. When someone starts a thread and doesn't come back for responses (either at all or in a timely matter) I've seen the pile on and how they are treated. So my worry is I will start a thread, get busy with work or life and forget to come back in a timely matter. I'd more than likely come back to a full pile on and quickly become another of the "oh she just posts and runs" peas, neither of which would be deserved. And you can't tell me it wouldn't happen, because I've seen it numerous times. So when I do start a new thread, I'm pretty careful that I have the time to devote to it. In fact, just responding to this thread has me already past my quitting time and normal workout time, so now I'm really stressed about any more responses I may not have time to come back to today. I know that's on me, but it's my personality and I don't ignore people in real life or online. I think when someone posts something inflammatory or meant to be challenging then never comes back to the thread to reply to any of the thoughts that follow is what prompts the "oh she just posts and runs" comment. Or if they never bother to answer any questions people ask clarification about. I don't think that happens to your everyday topic where people just post and contribute to the conversation. I have started conversations with topics that interest me and then life happened and I never made it back to the thread. I've never been piled on for that. I also often see people add, "I'm on my way out but will come back and read responses after work." etc. It also seems passive aggressive to say that a lot of peas seem to be here full time. Maybe you didn't mean it that way. But that kind of comment isn't exactly conversation friendly.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 29, 2020 21:22:18 GMT
As has been said repeatedly, if you like different topics, start and post to threads about them. My biggest thing about starting new threads is I have limited time on most days and I'm not on here full time like a lot of peas seem to be. When someone starts a thread and doesn't come back for responses (either at all or in a timely matter) I've seen the pile on and how they are treated. So my worry is I will start a thread, get busy with work or life and forget to come back in a timely matter. I'd more than likely come back to a full pile on and quickly become another of the "oh she just posts and runs" peas, neither of which would be deserved. And you can't tell me it wouldn't happen, because I've seen it numerous times. So when I do start a new thread, I'm pretty careful that I have the time to devote to it. In fact, just responding to this thread has me already past my quitting time and normal workout time, so now I'm really stressed about any more responses I may not have time to come back to today. I know that's on me, but it's my personality and I don't ignore people in real life or online. It really wouldn't matter to me what single topic of posts took over NSBR, I still wouldn't like it. If it changed to mostly religion, I'd be out. Changed to all recipes or all game threads, I'd be out. I'm here for the variety of topics from all over the world, but most days it's mostly a wall of politics. I have plenty of specific hobby groups to enjoy to my hearts content. Why not keep most of it to the Trump catch all thread that is already there like the recipe, game threads and multiple other topics can and do? If you don’t have time and don’t want to make the effort to post about topics that interest you, and instead want to complain about the topics that are posted here, then you’re simply just adding to *problem.* My goodness woman, if your time is so precious that you can’t make it thorough your perceived “wall of politics,” why are you here?
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 29, 2020 21:31:13 GMT
I have periods when I am posting a lot and other times when I just read a few minutes at a time. I've had a lot going on this week so haven’t posted much. I am here for 2-3 minutes at a time and by the time I do get here someone else has said what I might have and a lot of times better than I would have, so I “like” other posts a lot.
I really do not understand the bitching about the board being something other than a perfect fit for an individual. If you enjoy it stay, if you don’t, leave. I can tell you right now that if this board suddenly became a religious board with every discussion being about the Bible, I'd just go find another place to play, but you wouldn't hear me posting and bitching about it. The Internet is HUGE. There is something for everyone out there.
And as for the “she just posts and runs”, everyone knows who those people are. They are the shit stirrers not posters who don't have time to get back to threads that are not political.
This board has been the same as long as I've been here since about 2013-14? I think there are a lot of people who have strong opinions, I am one of them but I don't think it brings out the worst in us other than a very small, few individuals. I believe they are miserable people on and off this board.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 1:29:34 GMT
But whatever the reasons are, it’s sad to watch. Watch? your a full participant Yes I am, as I noted in my original post, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t notice how others respond. And I if think the response was out of line besides grumbling about it to myself I look at how I sometimes respond and try adjust them so I’m not “that person”. Am I always successful? Probably not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 1:35:05 GMT
Yes! I rarely get on here anymore because it has gotten so ugly🙁 See, this attitude is what I don't understand. Yes, some threads have fights going on. So why do you read those? I just scanned down the first page of the board and here are threads that I think are not likely to be "ugly": -- putting up xmas trees -- hurricanes -- what do Dutch people living here miss? -- trick or treating -- games -- Animal Crossing --weekly reading -- what's for dinner -- xmas gift ideas -- International Quilt Festival -- face cream -- decluttering and organizing -- October crafting -- TV shows -- elderly pets -- happy birthdays -- scams -- medical questions -- financial questions -- antiques -- Library Lady's interesting information Read (and participate) in any of those and you won't see too much "ugly". Not even between the Real Tree people and the Fake Tree people. Did you miss the rumble on the Christmas Card Swap sign up thread that spilled over to a second thread of bitching? A Christmas Card Swap sign up thread. How benign is that? But yet.
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