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Post by Really Red on Dec 31, 2020 17:36:52 GMT
That's appalling. Don't have a vaccine if you don't 'believe in it'  but to stop other people getting theirs is shocking.Except that the sad part is that it really isn't any more. If I've learned anything from this administration and this year, it's that no matter how low you think the bar is, someone is always willing to lower it more.  Yes. And the bar is very, very low. Like down in HELL. I hope they press charges and I hope this person loses his/her license, goes to jail and is NAMED. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2020 17:45:16 GMT
It doesn't specify whether it was a nurse though. It could be an admin person or even a cleaner. It just says a hospital employee. In the US, vaccines and other potent drugs are kept under lock and key (or codes, with new technology). Access wouldn’t be given to just anyone; just those who need it. So it likely want a cleaner or even an admin; it was likely a nurse as they’re administering the vaccines in most places. Well they are here as well. Wasn't thinking when I posted that  |
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Post by msliz on Dec 31, 2020 17:52:09 GMT
“We immediately launched an internal review and were led to believe this was caused by inadvertent human error," the hospital said in the statement on Wednesday. "The individual in question today acknowledged that they intentionally removed the vaccine from refrigeration..." "Inadvertent human error" tells me it was a mistake. Like the person intentionally took them from the freezer before the appropriate time and the vaccine was compromised. This could have nothing to do with anyone's beliefs or politics. Why are so many of you so eager to assume it does? The person responsible will likely lose their license to practice as well. I think that would be appropriate. But criminal charges? Based on what? |
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Post by gar on Dec 31, 2020 17:57:18 GMT
This could have nothing to do with anyone's beliefs or politics. Why are so many of you so eager to assume it does? I guess it just doesn't seem unlikely... |
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Post by gsquaredmom on Dec 31, 2020 17:59:00 GMT
“We immediately launched an internal review and were led to believe this was caused by inadvertent human error," the hospital said in the statement on Wednesday. "The individual in question today acknowledged that they intentionally removed the vaccine from refrigeration..." "Inadvertant human error" tells me it was a mistake. Like the person intentionally took them from the freezer before the appropriate time and the vaccine was compromised. This could have nothing to do with anyone's beliefs or politics. Why are so many of you so eager to assume it does? The person responsible will likely lose their license to practice as well. I think that would be appropriate. The news reported here last night that she later said she did it on purpose and she was then fired. We are not basing it on assumptions, but updated local news. |
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Post by msliz on Dec 31, 2020 17:59:51 GMT
This could have nothing to do with anyone's beliefs or politics. Why are so many of you so eager to assume it does? I guess it just doesn't seem unlikely... I'll give you that. People suck. A lot of people suck. But not everybody sucks. |
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Post by gsquaredmom on Dec 31, 2020 18:01:51 GMT
She sucks. She later said did it on purpose and was fired.
Wisconsin has a huge antimask and Trump contingent. I think it is entirely possible she is one of them since it was intentional.
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Post by msliz on Dec 31, 2020 18:01:58 GMT
"Inadvertant human error" tells me it was a mistake. Like the person intentionally took them from the freezer before the appropriate time and the vaccine was compromised. This could have nothing to do with anyone's beliefs or politics. Why are so many of you so eager to assume it does? The person responsible will likely lose their license to practice as well. I think that would be appropriate. The news reported here last night that she later said she did it on purpose and she was then fired. We are not basing it on assumptions, but updated local news. Okay, then. I didn't see that. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. It's so incredibly sad thinking about how the last four years have damaged the minds of Americans in ways I never would have believed possible. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 31, 2020 18:05:01 GMT
“We immediately launched an internal review and were led to believe this was caused by inadvertent human error," the hospital said in the statement on Wednesday. "The individual in question today acknowledged that they intentionally removed the vaccine from refrigeration..." "Inadvertent human error" tells me it was a mistake. Like the person intentionally took them from the freezer before the appropriate time and the vaccine was compromised. This could have nothing to do with anyone's beliefs or politics. Why are so many of you so eager to assume it does? The person responsible will likely lose their license to practice as well. I think that would be appropriate. But criminal charges? Based on what? Unfortunately the person stated after being questioned she removed them INTENTIONALLY. |
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Post by gsquaredmom on Dec 31, 2020 18:08:12 GMT
The news reported here last night that she later said she did it on purpose and she was then fired. We are not basing it on assumptions, but updated local news. Okay, then. I didn't see that. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. I think that’s nice. I do the same. I think some of us had a bit more info. It was reported/updated on the Chicago stations since not too far away from here. |
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Post by msliz on Dec 31, 2020 18:09:13 GMT
"Inadvertent human error" tells me it was a mistake. Like the person intentionally took them from the freezer before the appropriate time and the vaccine was compromised. This could have nothing to do with anyone's beliefs or politics. Why are so many of you so eager to assume it does? The person responsible will likely lose their license to practice as well. I think that would be appropriate. But criminal charges? Based on what? Unfortunately the person stated after being questioned she removed them INTENTIONALLY. and with malice. I see that now. |
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Post by M in Carolina on Dec 31, 2020 18:32:20 GMT
That's appalling. Don't have a vaccine if you don't 'believe in it' but to stop other people getting theirs is shocking. The irony of being an anti vaxxer and working in a capacity where you'd have access to the vials is staggering. I know some people think that the vaccines have been approved too quickly, but the mRNA vaccine science behind it has been successfully used for years for cancer treatment and has been approved by regular channels. Repeatedly. This person should have criminal charges brought against them, although it might be difficult to get a conviction. 500 medical professionals being vaccinated could save thousands of lives. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Dec 31, 2020 20:26:21 GMT
Hmm, you are probably on to the source of my confusion. Thank you. I assumed they would be using a similar sized vial because of the handling protocol, but that doesn't mean I am right. Off to go peek about. Yup, the Moderna vials have 8-10 doses. What an asshole to deliberately do that. This now has me wondering if said asshole was hoping to get them put back away before getting caught. And if so, is this putting our supply in danger if their are other rogue nurses out there. Ugh. Mean people suck. ETA gsquaredmom, Doh, I quoted my own self. ☺ You’re not the only one that went there. I have thought that someone would try this. Not stealing them but tampering with them to make them ineffective. Nothing would surprise me any more. I hope they throw the book at this person and really make an example out of them. |
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Post by anniefb on Dec 31, 2020 20:57:14 GMT
Appalling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2020 21:10:48 GMT
That's appalling. Don't have a vaccine if you don't 'believe in it' but to stop other people getting theirs is shocking. The irony of being an anti vaxxer and working in a capacity where you'd have access to the vials is staggering. I know some people think that the vaccines have been approved too quickly, but the mRNA vaccine science behind it has been successfully used for years for cancer treatment and has been approved by regular channels. Repeatedly. This person should have criminal charges brought against them, although it might be difficult to get a conviction. 500 medical professionals being vaccinated could save thousands of lives. Why would it be difficult? She's committed a crime. Leaving aside the damage of depriving others of that vaccine, she's wilfully and deliberately destroyed the " property" of her employer ( or whoever " owns" the supply of that vaccine) |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 31, 2020 21:19:33 GMT
It doesn't specify whether it was a nurse though. It could be an admin person or even a cleaner. It just says a hospital employee. I think our local news reported it was a nurse, but I may not be remembering correctly. Whatever the case, if it is the same healthcare system, it may indicate a more systemic problem. That would concern me more. One stupid nurse or are there more? I know there are a lot of good nurses, but the pandemic has shown me that nurses can lack common sense as much as anyone. I have a few nurse friends on Facebook who are very much in the “there are worse things” camp. And several others who say things like “I have a friend who is a nurse and she says the virus is no big deal”. And of course the “nurses for Trump” yard signs. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 31, 2020 21:19:53 GMT
Hopefully this individual ends up with a substantial fine and prison time.
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Post by Laurie on Dec 31, 2020 21:34:46 GMT
Hmm my mind didn’t go to political intentions. I wondered if she was going to try to sell the vaccine or administer it for a fee. If it is the Moderna one she didn’t need special equipment.
I’m sure the motive will come out in the upcoming days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2020 21:55:43 GMT
Hmm my mind didn’t go to political intentions. I wondered if she was going to try to sell the vaccine or administer it for a fee. If it is the Moderna one she didn’t need special equipment. I’m sure the motive will come out in the upcoming days. She didn't steal them. She took them out of the freezer then left them out past the use by time. They were the Moderna ones. This was the first report but she then confessed she did it intentionally according to a later report |
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 31, 2020 22:26:09 GMT
I think our local news reported it was a nurse, but I may not be remembering correctly. Whatever the case, if it is the same healthcare system, it may indicate a more systemic problem. That would concern me more. One stupid nurse or are there more? I know there are a lot of good nurses, but the pandemic has shown me that nurses can lack common sense as much as anyone. I have a few nurse friends on Facebook who are very much in the “there are worse things” camp. And several others who say things like “I have a friend who is a nurse and she says the virus is no big deal”. And of course the “nurses for Trump” yard signs. dhbpicks up shifts at a hospital run by a catholic entity. The amount of staff there that is antivaccine shocked him. I don't know if it is because it is a more conservative population or what |
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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 31, 2020 22:55:15 GMT
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Post by maryland on Dec 31, 2020 23:08:52 GMT
People who do this intentionally should be charged with attempted murder, or something those lines because that's really what they are trying to do.What the hell, omg. I agree! It should be 500 counts of attempted murder. But the person will probably just get a slap on the wrist. And make tax payers pay for the wasted vaccine. That seems to be how things work in this country. Sorry, but I needed to vent, I am so tired of the people who want covid to never end. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 31, 2020 23:21:24 GMT
Arrested! Thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2020 23:21:27 GMT
He is really one sick in mind individual. He was going to let all those people believe that they were protected from this virus and all along they would have been all at risk of catching it - that is surely deliberately endangering someone's life and yet they haven't charge him with that! |
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Post by gar on Dec 31, 2020 23:25:30 GMT
He is really one sick in mind individual. He was going to let all those people believe that they were protected from this virus and all along they would have been all at risk of catching it - that is surely deliberately endangering someone's life and yet they haven't charge him with that! Not sure whether to cry or just shake my head |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2020 23:46:43 GMT
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Dec 31, 2020 23:52:45 GMT
I see three charge descriptions... I wonder how that shakes out quantity wise? One of each per vial? Per Dose?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2020 23:55:24 GMT
It will be very interesting if this asswipe also refuses to dispense birth control or the morning after pill because of being "pro-life".
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 1, 2021 0:05:46 GMT
It will be very interesting if this asswipe also refuses to dispense birth control or the morning after pill because of being "pro-life". Pro-life? ? ? Just possibly kill hundreds after messing with vaccines! As those they might also infect. |
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Post by smcast on Jan 1, 2021 0:11:20 GMT
I can't imagine any sane health care worker doing this. Absolutely evil. 😡😡😡😡
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but to stop other people getting theirs is shocking.
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