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Post by dewryce on Jan 3, 2021 1:07:36 GMT
I don’t think asthma is actually on the list since it’s not a comorbidity. I’m surprised they bought into her story! In any case, the logistics of doling out vaccinations are definitely not at the caliber they should be. I checked and, while asthma is not on the list for 1B, the list itself is prefaced by “including but not limited to.” Merge where are you getting your info? The only thing I found by the state was some “plan” without helpful details. DH has received his first dose as a high risk individual working in a skilled nursing facility/nursing home, and most of the residents have chosen to take it. He’s not certain of the workers but his therapy department has or will get it (one wasn’t there and his assistant just had it from treating from patients so she has to wait a little) and he know of many deniers so it’s certainly not everyone. Which ticks me off because one worker brought it into their facility and almost 20% of the residents died. Anyway, I go basically no where so I am more protected, he is my greatest risk by far. But I am super high risk for complications, as is my mom so we’d like to get one as soon as we can.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 3, 2021 1:08:35 GMT
So.... while I was on hold to renew an Rx at Walgreens today they have all verbal 'notices' including Walgreens does not have any phone info, but go to Walgreens dot com/Covid. Ok, did that. Click click not there, said to go to local health dept.. did that, click click ended up on the CDC site. Just shows the lists which can be found many places.
No info on when, where, or how to get any more info. I know I am 1b, age and medical issues. That's it!
I will not be bumping any lines. I can wait, others need it more. I just don't want to have keep looking online or in line for however long to get an appointment. Tell me Mar 23rd at 2:00 pm and I will go where they want me to go to get the vaccine.
Making people wait in lines, particularly seniors for hours for first come first served. In fact wrong for everyone!!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 3, 2021 1:12:34 GMT
I’d certainly never look at her the same again.
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 1:12:51 GMT
I checked and, while asthma is not on the list for 1B, the list itself is prefaced by “including but not limited to.” Merge where are you getting your info? The only thing I found by the state was some “plan” without helpful details. DH has received his first dose as a high risk individual working in a skilled nursing facility/nursing home, and most of the residents have chosen to take it. He’s not certain of the workers but his therapy department has or will get it (one wasn’t there and his assistant just had it from treating from patients so she has to wait a little) and he know of many deniers so it’s certainly not everyone. Which ticks me off because one worker brought it into their facility and almost 20% of the residents died. Anyway, I go basically no where so I am more protected, he is my greatest risk by far. But I am super high risk for complications, as is my mom so we’d like to get one as soon as we can. www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/immunize/vaccine/EVAP-Phase1B.pdfWe have dear friends who are both sick. He’s in the hospital. 51 and no underlying conditions. She has covid pneumonia (and underlying conditions) and is managing at home right now with dexameth whatever (the strong steroid), but is very ill. They’ve been super careful and have no idea how they got it. I’m beside myself.
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 1:13:10 GMT
I’d certainly never look at her the same again. That is a given.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 3, 2021 1:17:27 GMT
While it isn't a very moral thing to do, I'd prefer this behaviour and people getting the vaccine to the opposite where they lie NOT to get it. The more people who have it and the sooner they have it, the better for everyone else. They are going to be churning out all 3 vaccines as fast as they can for quite some time, a few people getting it earlier than some others ultimately won't be significant.
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Post by mom on Jan 3, 2021 1:24:09 GMT
I checked and, while asthma is not on the list for 1B, the list itself is prefaced by “including but not limited to.” Merge where are you getting your info? The only thing I found by the state was some “plan” without helpful details. DH has received his first dose as a high risk individual working in a skilled nursing facility/nursing home, and most of the residents have chosen to take it. He’s not certain of the workers but his therapy department has or will get it (one wasn’t there and his assistant just had it from treating from patients so she has to wait a little) and he know of many deniers so it’s certainly not everyone. Which ticks me off because one worker brought it into their facility and almost 20% of the residents died. Anyway, I go basically no where so I am more protected, he is my greatest risk by far. But I am super high risk for complications, as is my mom so we’d like to get one as soon as we can. Has your DH's company said anything about if they have extra doses? My DH got his last week and then he got an email that said so many have passed on getting the vaccine that they have extra doses and the health dept has OK'd high risk family members getting the vaccine now as long as all the residents + staff got theirs first. I got on the list because of my Factor V issues and will get my shot next week -- as long as their are doses available. You might ask.
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Post by tentoes on Jan 3, 2021 1:27:24 GMT
Here in NH, all teachers and staff are higher on the list, 1c maybe. It doesn’t seem right to lie, but if schools are open and teachers are required to be in person, they should be in the same category as other essential workers. Dh’s hospital is vaccinating administrators who don’t have patient contact. That doesn’t seem right either. This is exactly why we need a clear, national plan, not just let the states figure it out. Well that stinks!
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Post by dewryce on Jan 3, 2021 1:31:36 GMT
Merge where are you getting your info? The only thing I found by the state was some “plan” without helpful details. DH has received his first dose as a high risk individual working in a skilled nursing facility/nursing home, and most of the residents have chosen to take it. He’s not certain of the workers but his therapy department has or will get it (one wasn’t there and his assistant just had it from treating from patients so she has to wait a little) and he know of many deniers so it’s certainly not everyone. Which ticks me off because one worker brought it into their facility and almost 20% of the residents died. Anyway, I go basically no where so I am more protected, he is my greatest risk by far. But I am super high risk for complications, as is my mom so we’d like to get one as soon as we can. www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/immunize/vaccine/EVAP-Phase1B.pdfWe have dear friends who are both sick. He’s in the hospital. 51 and no underlying conditions. She has covid pneumonia (and underlying conditions) and is managing at home right now with dexameth whatever (the strong steroid), but is very ill. They’ve been super careful and have no idea how they got it. I’m beside myself. Oh honey I’m so sorry. I hope they both pull through with no long lasting effects. Do they have her on anything other than dexamethazone (I think it is). I HATE this. All of it. And I seriously fucking resent those that put us here, in the government and the private citizens as well. There are people I will not be able to think kindly of ever again since they are putting their wants ahead of other people’s very lives. Thank you for the link! While it isn't a very moral thing to do, I'd prefer this behaviour and people getting the vaccine to the opposite where three lie NOT to get it. The more people who have it and the sooner they have it, the better for everyone else. They are going to be churning out all 3 vaccines as fast as they can for quite some time, a few people getting it earlier than some others ultimately won't be significant. Overall, I agree with your sentiment, this preference over people not getting vaccinated. But it could be very significant to the people whose doses they took, even costing them their lives. And it is looking like far more than a few people.
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Post by laurasw on Jan 3, 2021 1:33:44 GMT
I think it is a shitty thing to do and the selfishness is just another reason this virus continues to kick our collective ass. Couldn't have said this better!
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Post by dewryce on Jan 3, 2021 1:34:23 GMT
Merge where are you getting your info? The only thing I found by the state was some “plan” without helpful details. DH has received his first dose as a high risk individual working in a skilled nursing facility/nursing home, and most of the residents have chosen to take it. He’s not certain of the workers but his therapy department has or will get it (one wasn’t there and his assistant just had it from treating from patients so she has to wait a little) and he know of many deniers so it’s certainly not everyone. Which ticks me off because one worker brought it into their facility and almost 20% of the residents died. Anyway, I go basically no where so I am more protected, he is my greatest risk by far. But I am super high risk for complications, as is my mom so we’d like to get one as soon as we can. Has your DH's company said anything about if they have extra doses? My DH got his last week and then he got an email that said so many have passed on getting the vaccine that they have extra doses and the health dept has OK'd high risk family members getting the vaccine now as long as all the residents + staff got theirs first. I got on the list because of my Factor V issues and will get my shot next week -- as long as their are doses available. You might ask. I hadn’t even considered that might happen, thank you. I just asked and he says they haven’t mentioned it but he is having his boss ask about it. We are a small, very red county so maybe there is a chance. So glad you’re going to have that opportunity!
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Post by mom on Jan 3, 2021 1:37:38 GMT
Has your DH's company said anything about if they have extra doses? My DH got his last week and then he got an email that said so many have passed on getting the vaccine that they have extra doses and the health dept has OK'd high risk family members getting the vaccine now as long as all the residents + staff got theirs first. I got on the list because of my Factor V issues and will get my shot next week -- as long as their are doses available. You might ask. I hadn’t even considered that might happen, thank you. I just asked and he says they haven’t mentioned it but he is having his boss ask about it. We are a small, very red county so maybe there is a chance. So glad you’re going to have that opportunity! Its not for sure yet -- they will do a second push to get more to volunteer, as only 17% of staff agreed. UGH. But my fingers are crossed. Apparently my area got a ton of vaccines and are letting just about anyone who shows up, get the shot.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jan 3, 2021 1:40:21 GMT
I have a teacher friend who got her first Covid vaccination today. She is healthy and in her 30s. No underlying conditions of any kind. She was trying to convince the rest of us to go (she waited in line for four hours, so a significant commitment) and said it was easy to lie and say she has asthma. They didn’t ask for any proof. She justifies it by saying she wants to see her grandmother. I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, she lied, and took a dose that should have gone to an older or sicker person. On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s being encouraged in our state through a haphazard rollout that promotes an “everybody for themselves” mentality. I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward. Well now I am wondering if you and I know the same person. I get it. Teachers are out there. I agree 100% they are front line. However, lying to get into the 1B group? Not cool.
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 3, 2021 1:47:29 GMT
Ugh, what a mess. Incentivizing the very thing that got us into this mess - selfishness. 😒
I just feel really sad that my complete cynicism of “operation warp speed” appears to be fully justified. 😞
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Post by dewryce on Jan 3, 2021 2:22:14 GMT
I hadn’t even considered that might happen, thank you. I just asked and he says they haven’t mentioned it but he is having his boss ask about it. We are a small, very red county so maybe there is a chance. So glad you’re going to have that opportunity! Its not for sure yet -- they will do a second push to get more to volunteer, as only 17% of staff agreed. UGH. But my fingers are crossed. Apparently my area got a ton of vaccines and are letting just about anyone who shows up, get the shot. SEVENTEEN PERCENT? I am completely gobsmacked. So, a smaller percentage of staff will get the vaccine than the percentage of residents that actually died from a virus brought in by staff at my DH’s facility. I just can not comprehend this. Their chosen career is based on taking care of the very people they won’t get a vaccine to protect?
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Post by jenb72 on Jan 3, 2021 2:42:12 GMT
My BIL is a heart patient (chronic degenerative heart disease) and retired military. He's been bugging the VA about getting the vaccine since he's at very high risk. They have no information whatsoever and can't tell him anything. He's on a waiting list. He's heard nothing. We've been urging him to talk to his cardiologist as well since she would be most familiar with his risk. He lives with us so we've had to be so very, very careful for the last 9 months because if COVID comes home with one of us and he gets it, he would very likely die. All that to say, what your coworker did really urks me, but not as much as the reason she did it and the fact that she had the opportunity.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 3, 2021 2:42:20 GMT
But it could be very significant to the people whose doses they took, even costing them their lives. And it is looking like far more than a few people. You can look at it that way - but those people aren't missing on the vaccine forever, it might be a case of a few weeks or a couple of months, and overall the more people who are getting vaccinated the better it is for everyone, so there will be less people with it in the community and therefore less people to pass it on. And in this time before the majority of people are vaccinated, EVERYONE still needs to be taking the same precautions anyway. It's not a straight line to "this person didn't get the vaccine today to this person will now die of covid" The vaccine doses are only limited in the short term - there's more coming and with a real President in charge in a couple of weeks there won't be any of this bullshit of only giving it to states he likes.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 3, 2021 2:44:59 GMT
But it could be very significant to the people whose doses they took, even costing them their lives. And it is looking like far more than a few people. You can look at it that way - but those people aren't missing on the vaccine forever, it might be a case of a few weeks or a couple of months, and overall the more people who are getting vaccinated the better it is for everyone, so there will be less people with it in the community and therefore less people to pass it on. And in this time before the majority of people are vaccinated, EVERYONE still needs to be taking the same precautions anyway. It's not a straight line to "this person didn't get the vaccine today to this person will now die of covid" The vaccine doses are only limited in the short term - there's more coming and with a real President in charge in a couple of weeks there won't be any of this bullshit of only giving it to states he likes. Whether we have the data/names to correlate the deaths is irrelevant. There will definitely be people that die because lying selfish assholes take their vaccines. Here 2,000 people died just today from COVID. And that’s before the Christmas cases peak. A few weeks ago it was 3,000. In one day. A few months is an eternity.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 3, 2021 2:59:09 GMT
Yeah, but here 2,000 people died just today from COVID. And that’s before the Christmas cases peak. A few weeks ago it was 3,000. In one day. A few months is an eternity. Yes and your point is? It still doesn't mean that person A who missed out on the vaccine will now die because person B got the vaccine first. That's far too simplistic. Person B might have been the one to catch it and pass it on to 10 others and 5 of those might have died, so person A will have survived and as a result 5 others died. There's endless possibilities of how this plays out. The main point is that people getting vaccinated is better than people not and the more people and the sooner they get vaccinated the better it is for EVERYONE else. You're acting as if the vaccine is a finite resource and not getting on a particular day means certain death and that is simply not a cogent argument. And if you can't understand that, then I'm not wasting my time explaining it again.
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Post by mom on Jan 3, 2021 3:01:21 GMT
Its not for sure yet -- they will do a second push to get more to volunteer, as only 17% of staff agreed. UGH. But my fingers are crossed. Apparently my area got a ton of vaccines and are letting just about anyone who shows up, get the shot. SEVENTEEN PERCENT? I am completely gobsmacked. So, a smaller percentage of staff will get the vaccine than the percentage of residents that actually died from a virus brought in by staff at my DH’s facility. I just can not comprehend this. Their chosen career is based on taking care of the very people they won’t get a vaccine to protect? Yep - that is including everyone from janitors at all locations, administrators, nurses, etc. So several facilities. That was round 1. They are going to try and educate some more this week. Many were pissed the company wasn't going to pay them to get the shot (it had been discussed). Surprisingly many were nurses. The ones DH was telling me about, are ok with the shot. They just want hazard pay + a bonus for taking it.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 3, 2021 3:01:32 GMT
I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. This pandemic has really brought out the worst in people, and I will have a hard time getting past what I’ve learned about so many of them. I hate so many people right now.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Jan 3, 2021 3:01:36 GMT
I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward. Well now I am wondering if you and I know the same person. I get it. Teachers are out there. I agree 100% they are front line. However, lying to get into the 1B group? Not cool. I'm a teacher and since I'm teaching remotely (even when students return to f2f, since I'm a specialist and see all of the students in the school, I will be permitted to remain remote to preserve small cohort integrity) I will forego the vaccine until I'm forced to return to campus. I'd rather not take a vaccine from someone who isn't able to be remote.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jan 3, 2021 16:59:29 GMT
She stinks! I haven't been out to a store or anywhere other than a doctor or curbside pickup, because I'm compromised. My entire family has to follow similar restrictions in order to keep me safe. I truly resent liars who are forgetting that there are truly sick people out there. Anyone who fakes illness is imho a slimeball. You wanna really be ill? I'll gladly gift you my disease so that I can feel good for the first time in years. You wanna go through the tests and torture I endure on a regular basis? Have at it. ARRRGGHHH. This pea thinks she is a rotten human being and has the ethics of a pot hole.
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Post by Loydene on Jan 3, 2021 17:17:24 GMT
I wish that REAL scientific protocols were being followed for distribution of the vaccine. Teachers would be higher on the list than they are; the elderly would be lower.
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Post by sam9 on Jan 3, 2021 18:59:19 GMT
Sorry, but this is about the most polite way I can say what I think about her - greedy as*h**e.
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Post by christine58 on Jan 3, 2021 19:04:40 GMT
I wish that REAL scientific protocols were being followed for distribution of the vaccine. Teachers would be higher on the list than they are; the elderly would be lower. Why would elderly be lower??
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Post by AnastasiaBeaverhausn on Jan 3, 2021 19:09:23 GMT
Essential workers *with underlying conditions* are supposed to be in 1b. Not all essential workers. But they don’t even have enough doses for 1a so I don’t know what the hell they’re doing. I have an appointment on Tuesday to get mine. I just clicked the link on Austin Regional Clinic’s webpage. Got a confirmation and everything. But I fully expect it to be cancelled (hearing stories from others). There is absolutely NO PLAN or organization. It is SHAMEFUL. It’s so inconsistent. Do we go to our PCP? HEB? The health department? Do we spend hours online and calling around for information? It’s a complete shit show. But did we really expect anything different? Are you a patient at Austin Regional? I live in Liberty Hill, west of Georgetown. I'm 50 but both dh and I have some of the diseases/ailments in the list that would make Covid probably deadly to us. Like you said, how to get a shot is tough to find out with no info.
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Post by katybee on Jan 3, 2021 19:49:41 GMT
I have an appointment on Tuesday to get mine. I just clicked the link on Austin Regional Clinic’s webpage. Got a confirmation and everything. But I fully expect it to be cancelled (hearing stories from others). There is absolutely NO PLAN or organization. It is SHAMEFUL. It’s so inconsistent. Do we go to our PCP? HEB? The health department? Do we spend hours online and calling around for information? It’s a complete shit show. But did we really expect anything different? Are you a patient at Austin Regional? I live in Liberty Hill, west of Georgetown. I'm 50 but both dh and I have some of the diseases/ailments in the list that would make Covid probably deadly to us. Like you said, how to get a shot is tough to find out with no info. I have been in the past, but am not currently. My PCP does not have any vaccines. There was a link listed in my teacher group, so I clicked on it and signed up. It said for group 1b. It took all my insurance info and sent me a confirmation. But like I said, I’m not counting on it. I fully expect it to be cancelled.
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 21:16:41 GMT
I wish that REAL scientific protocols were being followed for distribution of the vaccine. Teachers would be higher on the list than they are; the elderly would be lower. Why would elderly be lower?? Because they can mostly choose to stay home. Teachers and other essential employees don't have that choice. Elderly people living in group care would stay at the front of the line, though, and if it were up to me, I'd add elderly people who live with essential workers. But retired people who live independently in their own homes? Where vaccines are limited, I'd say they can get in line behind the people who don't have a choice.
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 21:19:16 GMT
Little bit of an update - I posted a newspaper article to my FB feed this morning about how the vaccine sign ups for yesterday and today were shut down after the system allowed lots of unqualified people to get appointments. She replied, is this the signup our principal sent a link to? I said yes. Crickets from her.
(The principal sent the link in our email but qualified it with the statement that only people who fit in groups 1A and 1B were supposed to sign up. The teacher I know ignored that.)
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