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Post by Merge on Jan 2, 2021 23:32:56 GMT
I have a teacher friend who got her first Covid vaccination today. She is healthy and in her 30s. No underlying conditions of any kind. She was trying to convince the rest of us to go (she waited in line for four hours, so a significant commitment) and said it was easy to lie and say she has asthma. They didn’t ask for any proof. She justifies it by saying she wants to see her grandmother.
I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, she lied, and took a dose that should have gone to an older or sicker person. On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s being encouraged in our state through a haphazard rollout that promotes an “everybody for themselves” mentality.
I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward.
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Post by snugglebutter on Jan 2, 2021 23:34:19 GMT
Ugh. My dh is a teacher in his late 40's and actually has asthma and we are hoping he can get it before next school year.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 2, 2021 23:34:36 GMT
I think it is a shitty thing to do and the selfishness is just another reason this virus continues to kick our collective ass.
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Post by kate on Jan 2, 2021 23:35:04 GMT
Wow. I hate that.
She took a vaccination from someone who needed it more than she did.
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Post by katybee on Jan 2, 2021 23:36:11 GMT
I didn’t know asthma was included in group 1b. It’s not listed....
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Post by Merge on Jan 2, 2021 23:41:26 GMT
I didn’t know asthma was included in group 1b. It’s not listed.... Yeah, I don’t know. That’s what she said she told them. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 2, 2021 23:42:17 GMT
Teachers aren't 1b in Texas? I think Merge posted something, but I know our governor moved essential workers up the list recently
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Post by Merge on Jan 2, 2021 23:44:03 GMT
Teachers aren't 1b in Texas? I think Merge posted something, but I know our governor moved essential workers up the list recently Essential workers *with underlying conditions* are supposed to be in 1b. Not all essential workers. But they don’t even have enough doses for 1a so I don’t know what the hell they’re doing. |
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Post by myboysnme on Jan 2, 2021 23:44:58 GMT
Teachers are in the category here of people who can get it when it is available. This is just a product of making people lie to get what we all should have. I can't say I wouldn't try to get one if I felt strongly enough about it.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 2, 2021 23:47:01 GMT
I have a teacher friend who got her first Covid vaccination today. She is healthy and in her 30s. No underlying conditions of any kind. She was trying to convince the rest of us to go (she waited in line for four hours, so a significant commitment) and said it was easy to lie and say she has asthma. They didn’t ask for any proof. She justifies it by saying she wants to see her grandmother. I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, she lied, and took a dose that should have gone to an older or sicker person. On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s being encouraged in our state through a haphazard rollout that promotes an “everybody for themselves” mentality. I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward. So many failures, from systemic to individual, moral ones. Shame on that person, and shame on our elected officials for such a haphazard vaccine rollout (that, IMO, should have been fully coordinated at a national level, but we have a clown car full of assholes in charge for another 17 days, so...). |
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Post by Really Red on Jan 2, 2021 23:52:46 GMT
I have a teacher friend who got her first Covid vaccination today. She is healthy and in her 30s. No underlying conditions of any kind. She was trying to convince the rest of us to go (she waited in line for four hours, so a significant commitment) and said it was easy to lie and say she has asthma. They didn’t ask for any proof. She justifies it by saying she wants to see her grandmother. I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, she lied, and took a dose that should have gone to an older or sicker person. On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s being encouraged in our state through a haphazard rollout that promotes an “everybody for themselves” mentality. I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward. I think teachers should be up there in the list of getting the vaccine. That said, lying to get it? I absolutely would say something. It would be super simple: "Is that the kind of person you want to be? Is that the kind of person you want to be for the students you teach? For your own kids?" And she would not be my friend. The amount of "friends" I don't have any more because of this (and mostly Trump) is growing daily. I am not sad at all. People who think they can flout the rules make me mad. My 24yo DD has a CHD and if she gets Covid, she could easily die. Your friend took the vaccine from someone who should have been in front of her. That is wrong. |
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Post by katybee on Jan 3, 2021 0:01:18 GMT
Teachers aren't 1b in Texas? I think Merge posted something, but I know our governor moved essential workers up the list recently Essential workers *with underlying conditions* are supposed to be in 1b. Not all essential workers. But they don’t even have enough doses for 1a so I don’t know what the hell they’re doing. I have an appointment on Tuesday to get mine. I just clicked the link on Austin Regional Clinic’s webpage. Got a confirmation and everything. But I fully expect it to be cancelled (hearing stories from others). There is absolutely NO PLAN or organization. It is SHAMEFUL. It’s so inconsistent. Do we go to our PCP? HEB? The health department? Do we spend hours online and calling around for information? It’s a complete shit show. But did we really expect anything different? |
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Post by johnnysmom on Jan 3, 2021 0:05:53 GMT
Ugh. I’d be ok with lying if she was required to work (ie: a teacher) and she lived with someone who was significantly high risk (higher risk than asthma....I’m thinking someone receiving chemo). But just so she can see her grandma? Not ok.
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Post by moodyblue on Jan 3, 2021 0:06:12 GMT
Would I LIKE to get the vaccine as soon as possible? Absolutely.
But, I won’t lie or jump the line. If something happens or I’m in a situation where medical people tell me to get it then, I certainly will, but unless something changes, I’ll be farther down the list - I’m under 65 (by a year), way under 75, retired so not actively teaching anymore, got some risk factors but not super high, and can stay home more than many people.
I really want my brother, a dialysis patient, to get vaccinated. There are so many really high risk people ahead of me. I will not lie to get it earlier than others who should be getting it sooner.
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Post by greendragonlady on Jan 3, 2021 0:06:14 GMT
I have asthma and I'm waiting until the people who are more at risk get the vaccine.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 3, 2021 0:21:34 GMT
Ok but when they were rationing flu shots my GP pressed me to use the numerous inhalers and prednisone Rx I have had to get one but I will wait my turn. Getting my dad vaccinated first is top priority. I am healthy and youngish.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 3, 2021 0:24:52 GMT
At this point I'm just happy to hear that there's someone that WANTS to get the vaccine. Where I live people think it's going to get you a microchip that Bill Gates is going to use to track you with. No one wants the vaccine.
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 0:32:41 GMT
I have a teacher friend who got her first Covid vaccination today. She is healthy and in her 30s. No underlying conditions of any kind. She was trying to convince the rest of us to go (she waited in line for four hours, so a significant commitment) and said it was easy to lie and say she has asthma. They didn’t ask for any proof. She justifies it by saying she wants to see her grandmother. I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, she lied, and took a dose that should have gone to an older or sicker person. On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s being encouraged in our state through a haphazard rollout that promotes an “everybody for themselves” mentality. I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward. I think teachers should be up there in the list of getting the vaccine. That said, lying to get it? I absolutely would say something. It would be super simple: "Is that the kind of person you want to be? Is that the kind of person you want to be for the students you teach? For your own kids?" And she would not be my friend. The amount of "friends" I don't have any more because of this (and mostly Trump) is growing daily. I am not sad at all. People who think they can flout the rules make me mad. My 24yo DD has a CHD and if she gets Covid, she could easily die. Your friend took the vaccine from someone who should have been in front of her. That is wrong. I hear you. And friend is probably an overstatement. She is a teacher who works in the same hallway as me, so we chat. I agree that she’s wrong, which is why I posted about it here. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 0:33:45 GMT
At this point I'm just happy to hear that there's someone that WANTS to get the vaccine. Where I live people think it's going to get you a microchip that Bill Gates is going to use to track you with. No one wants the vaccine. Thousands of people showed up to try to get one of 750 vaccine doses today. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 0:34:45 GMT
Essential workers *with underlying conditions* are supposed to be in 1b. Not all essential workers. But they don’t even have enough doses for 1a so I don’t know what the hell they’re doing. I have an appointment on Tuesday to get mine. I just clicked the link on Austin Regional Clinic’s webpage. Got a confirmation and everything. But I fully expect it to be cancelled (hearing stories from others). There is absolutely NO PLAN or organization. It is SHAMEFUL. It’s so inconsistent. Do we go to our PCP? HEB? The health department? Do we spend hours online and calling around for information? It’s a complete shit show. But did we really expect anything different? If they had put H‑E‑B in charge of it, things would be much more orderly! |
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Post by Gravity on Jan 3, 2021 0:35:34 GMT
I have a teacher friend who got her first Covid vaccination today. She is healthy and in her 30s. No underlying conditions of any kind. She was trying to convince the rest of us to go (she waited in line for four hours, so a significant commitment) and said it was easy to lie and say she has asthma. They didn’t ask for any proof. She justifies it by saying she wants to see her grandmother. I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, she lied, and took a dose that should have gone to an older or sicker person. On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s being encouraged in our state through a haphazard rollout that promotes an “everybody for themselves” mentality. I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward. Did any of the teacher friends that she was trying to convince to lie in order to cut line for the vaccine call her out? She lied to steal a vaccine from someone who truly qualifies for it. Someone could die because of her lie. She’s a sorry excuse for a human being and has no business teaching children. |
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Post by basketdiva on Jan 3, 2021 0:37:23 GMT
Washington is getting ready to launch and app that you can use to see when you qualify for the vaccine. Sad thing is beta-testers have said it’s easy to answer the questions by lying or keep taking the “test” until you get the right answers in to be vaccinated. They say that pharmacies don’t have access to medical records so they have trust people to tell the truth
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Post by pancakes on Jan 3, 2021 0:37:25 GMT
I don’t think asthma is actually on the list since it’s not a comorbidity. I’m surprised they bought into her story! In any case, the logistics of doling out vaccinations are definitely not at the caliber they should be.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 3, 2021 0:43:22 GMT
And then there are the people refuse to get a vaccines even though they are encouraged to do so because they are in a risk category. I'm a bit upset at both types of people.
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Post by birukitty on Jan 3, 2021 0:48:23 GMT
Personally I think it's despicable. We're not talking about jumping the line to get a better seat at the movies. We're talking about jumping the line so that this teacher friend could get a vaccine that should have gone to someone else more in need. That other "more in need person" might get the Covid virus in the meantime and die from it, there is no way of knowing of course, just so this teacher friend could have her visit with her grandmother. Or they might get the virus and instead of dying from it have life long medical complications.
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 0:49:24 GMT
I have a teacher friend who got her first Covid vaccination today. She is healthy and in her 30s. No underlying conditions of any kind. She was trying to convince the rest of us to go (she waited in line for four hours, so a significant commitment) and said it was easy to lie and say she has asthma. They didn’t ask for any proof. She justifies it by saying she wants to see her grandmother. I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, she lied, and took a dose that should have gone to an older or sicker person. On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s being encouraged in our state through a haphazard rollout that promotes an “everybody for themselves” mentality. I just hate everyone and everything about this right now, even moreso than before. I’m not going to say anything to her because it won’t do any good. Guess I just wanted to vent about it here. We’ll certainly see a lot more of this going forward. Did any of the teacher friends that she was trying to convince to lie in order to cut line for the vaccine call her out? She lied to steal a vaccine from someone who truly qualifies for it. Someone could die because of her lie. She’s a sorry excuse for a human being and has no business teaching children. I told her that I didn’t feel comfortable trying to get a vaccine when there are others in greater need and not enough to go around, and left it at that. I agree that I should have been more brave. She is a very good teacher, beloved by admin and parents. I am new at this school. That’s all I’ve got. As you know, work politics are often tricky. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 3, 2021 0:52:00 GMT
At this point I'm just happy to hear that there's someone that WANTS to get the vaccine. Where I live people think it's going to get you a microchip that Bill Gates is going to use to track you with. No one wants the vaccine. I asked this on another thread. IF 5 people get the vaccine from the same vial do they become a new family unit since they would all get coordinated chips? Ask your friend that. 😀 |
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 0:53:19 GMT
I don’t think asthma is actually on the list since it’s not a comorbidity. I’m surprised they bought into her story! In any case, the logistics of doling out vaccinations are definitely not at the caliber they should be. I checked and, while asthma is not on the list for 1B, the list itself is prefaced by “including but not limited to.” |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 3, 2021 0:54:25 GMT
Here in NH, all teachers and staff are higher on the list, 1c maybe. It doesn’t seem right to lie, but if schools are open and teachers are required to be in person, they should be in the same category as other essential workers. Dh’s hospital is vaccinating administrators who don’t have patient contact. That doesn’t seem right either. This is exactly why we need a clear, national plan, not just let the states figure it out.
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2021 1:04:37 GMT
Here in NH, all teachers and staff are higher on the list, 1c maybe. It doesn’t seem right to lie, but if schools are open and teachers are required to be in person, they should be in the same category as other essential workers. Dh’s hospital is vaccinating administrators who don’t have patient contact. That doesn’t seem right either. This is exactly why we need a clear, national plan, not just let the states figure it out. That’s happening here, too - some large hospital networks have enough vaccine to give it to non-patient-facing administrators and even board members. Smaller hospitals and clinics often have no vaccine yet so those folks are unprotected. And then today the city basically did a “y’all come” vaccination for anyone who has the leisure to spend 4-6 hours sitting in line on a Saturday. Another person on FB reported that they didn’t even ask her what her underlying condition was. What I’m hoping, TBH, is that somehow the folks who lied will not be able to get their second dose and will be in the same boat as the rest of us. |
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