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Post by sam9 on Feb 21, 2021 19:42:43 GMT
Same, she needs help so badly and either isn't getting it or is and is choosing to live her grief damn the consequences to her children. Yeah, YT crafty people are getting all bent out of shape from negative comments. I don’t think the skin comments to Simon were/are fair. The young man is showing you stamping & card making techniques comment on that. People are assholes I don’t know what skin comments you are talking about and who Simon is. I never watch YT videos. ETA: please ignore. I see now that you posted above what happened to Simon Hurley. That is very uncalled for and just plain mean. I would never leave any kind of negative comment on anyone’s creative posts and certainly not about personal things. Jennifer’s rant on Friday included orders that people are not supposed to talk negatively about any paper crafting company at any time, including in FB groups and forums such as this one. If you’re not thrilled with the products they are making or their customer service policies, you should keep it to yourself and let them be. Tired of new rainbows showing up every week? Not your business, say nothing to anyone!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 19:51:45 GMT
I don’t think the skin comments to Simon were/are fair. The young man is showing you stamping & card making techniques comment on that. Those are never fair. Focus on actions, people. Not looks. FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 19:56:42 GMT
If you’re not thrilled with the products they are making or their customer service policies, you should keep it to yourself and let them be. Tired of new rainbows showing up every week? Not your business, say nothing to anyone! Good thing Jennifer is not Queen of the universe. Just Queen of her sycophants. As others have mentioned - a wide variety of options: 1.Turn off comments 2.Turn off like counts 3.Post privately 4.Suck it up for the .25% of negative comments 5.Try to listen for constructive feedback and make adjustments accordingly 6.Realize that when people leave comments about someone's LOOKS they are their own punishment as most people can see how petty/immature they are.
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Post by joblackford on Feb 21, 2021 20:03:16 GMT
I don’t think the skin comments to Simon were/are fair. The young man is showing you stamping & card making techniques comment on that. People are assholes I don’t know what skin comments you are talking about and who Simon is. I never watch YT videos. ETA just saw your edit! Must’ve been typing at the same time! Simon Hurley, a card maker. There’s an embedded IG post on the previous page near the bottom. He’s a high school senior who makes cards and has his own line of products with Ranger. He’s been semi-pro at crafting since he was 15 or so! He posted about having acne and people leaving comments about his skin. I’m not sure if they were comments on his YT videos or (perhaps more likely) on IG or Fbk. I saw Shimelle sharing the JM scolding about being kind, didn’t associate it with Simon’s post. But if it was related, if people are leaving unkind *personal* comments it’s just as likely to be random people who are shown a video or IG reel based on the algorithm as crafters. I mean, I don’t know but I can’t imagine most of us telling a kid to stop showing his face or wear makeup (or whatever gross comments were made about his acne). Telling someone that you don’t like their camera work or voiceover style or the colors they use on their project is different. But if it’s some 14 yo or 19yo (or 49yo) who is scrolling IG/YT and sees a random video and leaves a mean comment, well, yeah, that happens. And yes, it hurts, but scolding your followers doesn’t actually help. It just riles people up. And the mean people, if they even hear the scolding, don’t care. I’m at the point where if I hear anyone talking about being kind I just roll my eyes.
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Post by joblackford on Feb 21, 2021 20:07:34 GMT
I don’t think the skin comments to Simon were/are fair. The young man is showing you stamping & card making techniques comment on that. People are assholes I don’t know what skin comments you are talking about and who Simon is. I never watch YT videos. ETA: please ignore. I see now that you posted above what happened to Simon Hurley. That is very uncalled for and just plain mean. I would never leave any kind of negative comment on anyone’s creative posts and certainly not about personal things. Jennifer’s rant on Friday included orders that people are not supposed to talk negatively about any paper crafting company at any time, including in FB groups and forums such as this one. If you’re not thrilled with the products they are making or their customer service policies, you should keep it to yourself and let them be. Tired of new rainbows showing up every week? Not your business, say nothing to anyone! What?! Has she been sniffing the Copics?
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 21, 2021 20:11:49 GMT
I had no idea about Simon, however, it doesn’t change the fact that he is posting on social media. There are assholes in the world just waiting to make a nasty comment. Unfortunately it goes with the territory if you enable feedback. So, while I think it’s horrible, that’s part of the deal and calling it out doesn’t stop it, more than likely encourages more. JM and that whole clique who are supposedly so savvy with their social media JOBS, still have no damn clue why the 👎🏻 exists.
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Post by jediannie on Feb 21, 2021 20:15:34 GMT
people have made comments to Simon Hurley about his skin, on his card making IG or YouTube. ( he’s a teenager ) I didn’t see the comments so I’m not sure if the could be construed as well meaning or not but I still think the comments are uncalled for. People should just stfu and let the young man give his stamping & card making techniques on his card making/stamping channels. I've seen some people use his stuff and I had no idea he was a teen. I personally would never comment on how someone looked unless they're a fashion content creator and asked for opinions but alas, there are so many out there who think they can say anything they want from behind the anonymity of the screen. I'll say it again, if you're going to put yourself out there on social media, you have to be prepared for the good and the bad and being preachy is not going to change behaviors. He handled it well IMO.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 21, 2021 20:48:17 GMT
I don’t know what skin comments you are talking about and who Simon is. I never watch YT videos. ETA just saw your edit! Must’ve been typing at the same time! Simon Hurley, a card maker. There’s an embedded IG post on the previous page near the bottom. He’s a high school senior who makes cards and has his own line of products with Ranger. He’s been semi-pro at crafting since he was 15 or so! He posted about having acne and people leaving comments about his skin. I’m not sure if they were comments on his YT videos or (perhaps more likely) on IG or Fbk. I saw Shimelle sharing the JM scolding about being kind, didn’t associate it with Simon’s post. But if it was related, if people are leaving unkind *personal* comments it’s just as likely to be random people who are shown a video or IG reel based on the algorithm as crafters. I mean, I don’t know but I can’t imagine most of us telling a kid to stop showing his face or wear makeup (or whatever gross comments were made about his acne). Telling someone that you don’t like their camera work or voiceover style or the colors they use on their project is different. But if it’s some 14 yo or 19yo (or 49yo) who is scrolling IG/YT and sees a random video and leaves a mean comment, well, yeah, that happens. And yes, it hurts, but scolding your followers doesn’t actually help. It just riles people up. And the mean people, if they even hear the scolding, don’t care. I’m at the point where if I hear anyone talking about being kind I just roll my eyes. I don’t know if it’s about Simon’s post, but I don’t personally know Simon and I’m all mother bear annoyed at people for the comments so I can imagine these ladies who do know him are upset.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 21, 2021 21:04:19 GMT
I had no idea about Simon, however, it doesn’t change the fact that he is posting on social media. There are assholes in the world just waiting to make a nasty comment. Unfortunately it goes with the territory if you enable feedback. So, while I think it’s horrible, that’s part of the deal and calling it out doesn’t stop it, more than likely encourages more. JM and that whole clique who are supposedly so savvy with their social media JOBS, still have no damn clue why the 👎🏻 exists. Yes, he puts his work out there, but not his entire personal life, anyone wants to comment on that work then it is to be expected I guess, but random personal comments aren’t. I think he handled it well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 23:36:44 GMT
I always roll my eyes whenever anyone asks a question in a craft Facebook group & someone answers with “Jennifer McGuire says to use this or that product.” I’m sure JM gets some sort of compensation for pushing those products & claiming they are superior to other products that she’s not associated with. I’ve actually received good tips & advice from crafters that are not considered “pros” or influencers. I’m more likely to trust this type of crafter because they have zero to gain from recommending a product.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Feb 21, 2021 23:40:28 GMT
I don’t think the skin comments to Simon were/are fair. The young man is showing you stamping & card making techniques comment on that. People are assholes I don’t know what skin comments you are talking about and who Simon is. I never watch YT videos. ETA: please ignore. I see now that you posted above what happened to Simon Hurley. That is very uncalled for and just plain mean. I would never leave any kind of negative comment on anyone’s creative posts and certainly not about personal things. Jennifer’s rant on Friday included orders that people are not supposed to talk negatively about any paper crafting company at any time, including in FB groups and forums such as this one. If you’re not thrilled with the products they are making or their customer service policies, you should keep it to yourself and let them be. Tired of new rainbows showing up every week? Not your business, say nothing to anyone! McGuire?!
Jeeeeezus these idiots have thin fucking skin.
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Post by wendifful on Feb 21, 2021 23:56:20 GMT
I always roll my eyes whenever anyone asks a question in a craft Facebook group & someone answers with “Jennifer McGuire says to use this or that product.” I’m sure JM gets some sort of compensation for pushing those products & claiming they are superior to other products that she’s not associated with. I’ve actually received good tips & advice from crafters that are not considered “pros” or influencers. I’m more likely to trust this type of crafter because they have zero to gain from recommending a product. When I first started cardmaking, I took JM's advice as The Official Word. To be fair, I learned a LOT from her. Now, I think that even when *she* believes she is being fair/impartial, she doesn't always realize her privilege. (I'm not talking about AliExpress direct knockoffs, as I believe those are copyright violations and don't support them.) For example, she loves the Gina K Connect glue. To be fair, I've ordered it a few times and it IS pretty great. The tube/dispenser is really great and the glue is the perfect consistency, but it's INCREDIBLY expensive ($6 for .5 oz). Somewhat recently she posted a screenshot of an online order where she bought like 20 of the Connect glues. That's $120 just for glue! After I bought/used it a few times, I realized that as much as I liked it, it just wasn't a good use of my money, so I found an alternative (Nuvo Deluxe adhesive for now, same price for 2 ounces). It is TOTALLY her choice to spend that kind of money on her supplies...but for many crafters, it's just not possible. Also to be fair, she tries to gear her videos more towards techniques than specific products and also offers alternate (cheaper) ways to achieve a similar effect. I'm glad she does those things and appreciate the effort, I just think she doesn't realize that some of her automatic/basic preferences aren't always attainable.
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Post by julie5 on Feb 22, 2021 1:52:50 GMT
If this is what your kids see and internalize (i.e., their lives have no "point" in your life)... this is not an unexpected outcome.... Oof. Btdt. When I was freshly divorced from my kids dad, I was so angry. So hateful. So short with my kids. He found someone new and they had plenty of money and a nice home and my kids preferred her to me, especially my oldest. Eventually a cps officer came to see me regarding a false report and after he determined there was no abuse, he stayed and talked to me about how my feelings were affecting my children. I’ve never forgotten that. That meeting turned my life around. I hope someone can help Liz as she spirals out of control with her feelings.
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Post by julie5 on Feb 22, 2021 1:54:38 GMT
Ps loss is dark y’all. I spent 2008 drinking and hiding in my closet. I’m not proud of it. Every now amd then I let the guilt consume me and I cry in my room. I got better and dug myself out of my pit of dispair.
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Post by FurryP on Feb 22, 2021 3:27:05 GMT
It is TOTALLY her choice to spend that kind of money on her supplies...but for many crafters, it's just not possible. Not to mention that is a tax write-off for her because it's for her "business".
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Post by jediannie on Feb 22, 2021 17:50:21 GMT
Ps loss is dark y’all. I spent 2008 drinking and hiding in my closet. I’m not proud of it. Every now amd then I let the guilt consume me and I cry in my room. I got better and dug myself out of my pit of dispair. It most definitely is. Thank you for sharing your story.
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Post by nicolep on Feb 26, 2021 2:53:39 GMT
I'm thinking an All Things Jennifer McGuire thread may be in order but can someone please explain the hysteria over this!? Seriously. I don't get it. "lose it's value" "BEST DAY EVER" Huh? The comments were so ridiculous too. (posting this here since there were some JM discussions happening)
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Post by sam9 on Feb 26, 2021 3:41:49 GMT
Making cards has practically become a cult. The masters think that sending out crafty goodness is a huge kindness and that if everyone sent each other cards every day then most of the world’s problems would be solved. Sorry for my scepticism. To me it’s just an expensive hobby that I enjoy.
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Post by marmargirl on Feb 26, 2021 4:07:17 GMT
I'm thinking an All Things Jennifer McGuire thread may be in order but can someone please explain the hysteria over this!? Seriously. I don't get it. "lose it's value" "BEST DAY EVER" Huh? The comments were so ridiculous too. (posting this here since there were some JM discussions happening) Weird!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:24:21 GMT
"Its value" not "It's value"
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Post by sleepingbooty on Feb 26, 2021 14:51:36 GMT
Can anyone give me the TL;DR on the update(s)? Did I miss anything significant in the last couple of months? I am trying to catch up with several threads and the Liz updates exhaust me.
What's up with people commenting on Simon's skin? Are we talking about crafters or random trolls?
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 26, 2021 15:22:47 GMT
Can anyone give me the TL;DR on the update(s)? Did I miss anything significant in the last couple of months? I am trying to catch up with several threads and the Liz updates exhaust me. What's up with people commenting on Simon's skin? Are we talking about crafters or random trolls? So glad to see you posting! The biggest drama with DL was she kicked the present her mother in law left for the kids off her porch. Seems only DL is allowed grace to grieve and she was pissed because it was so late after Christmas. Many of us pointed out that maybe MIL was grieving too and time slipped away from her, maybe the present arrived late, etc. Other then that, nothing much. Still exploiting her grief and posting nonstop.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Feb 26, 2021 15:30:02 GMT
The biggest drama with DL was she kicked the present her mother in law left for the kids off her porch. Seems only DL is allowed grace to grieve and she was pissed because it was so late after Christmas. Many of us pointed out that maybe MIL was grieving too and time slipped away from her, maybe the present arrived late, etc. Other then that, nothing much. Still exploiting her grief and posting nonstop. So, she has decided that her deceased husband's family is evil now, not just the brother? Oh goody, didn't see that coming. Quelle surprise. It's not like her living room floor could've handled any more presents on Christmas anyway. We all saw the mountain summits (plural) of gifts and absolutely trashed room after the kids ripped everything open.
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 26, 2021 15:39:05 GMT
The biggest drama with DL was she kicked the present her mother in law left for the kids off her porch. Seems only DL is allowed grace to grieve and she was pissed because it was so late after Christmas. Many of us pointed out that maybe MIL was grieving too and time slipped away from her, maybe the present arrived late, etc. Other then that, nothing much. Still exploiting her grief and posting nonstop. So, she has decided that her deceased husband's family is evil now, not just the brother? Oh goody, didn't see that coming. Quelle surprise. It's not like her living room floor could've handled any more presents on Christmas anyway. We all saw the mountain summits (plural) of gifts and absolutely trashed room after the kids ripped everything open. You were so missed! I am not prying, but just want you to know that I hope all is well with you and am so very glad you are back!
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Post by sleepingbooty on Feb 26, 2021 16:01:17 GMT
So, she has decided that her deceased husband's family is evil now, not just the brother? Oh goody, didn't see that coming. Quelle surprise. You were so missed! I am not prying, but just want you to know that I hope all is well with you and am so very glad you are back! Missed you, too. 🤍 Baby steps back into the world beyond dropping things off at the hospital and waving to the window of my mother's ICU room, work and panicked phone calls with my SO. Life is so weird right now. As long as it's not too scary, I can handle other stuff. For a moment there, it was a bit scary. Glad to be back here. This place always feels like home.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 16:36:55 GMT
This place always feels like home. And more like home when our booty sibling is here. Pass the tea, please
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Post by quinmm14 on Feb 26, 2021 17:22:52 GMT
sleepingbooty glad to see you back here and I'm sorry you've been dealing with health issues with your mom. Hugs to you.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Feb 26, 2021 18:02:13 GMT
Much love for all the love I've received. I'm not worthy of the prodigal sibling embrace (but I'll bask in your collective arms anyway). @zingermack Sip sip, sis!
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Post by hop2 on Feb 26, 2021 19:52:27 GMT
br] What's up with people commenting on Simon's skin? Are we talking about crafters or random trolls? I didn’t see the comments, I’m not sure who commented. I only saw Simon’s post about it on his inklispe IG, so it must have been enough that he felt the need to address it. I was offended that anyone brought it up to him, enough that if that was what the stamping divas were angry about I’d give them a pass this time. Rave away stamping divas rave away Speaking of Inklipse I caught the live today. So glad your back
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Post by joblackford on Feb 26, 2021 20:23:04 GMT
Can anyone give me the TL;DR on the update(s)? Did I miss anything significant in the last couple of months? I am trying to catch up with several threads and the Liz updates exhaust me. What's up with people commenting on Simon's skin? Are we talking about crafters or random trolls? That's the question, right? There will always be trolls. I can't imagine too many people watching Simon's videos for crafty purposes and leaving nasty personal comments, but idk. Personally I suspect it's people with no interest in crafting who are watching his reels because IG pushes them... who gives a shit what they think? And why complain to your followers about rando trolls? All the "people are being mean to me, let's all be nice to everyone" posts (from everyone, not Simon specifically) are getting a bit tiresome. All the nice people will get riled up, the trolls couldn't give a damn or feel satisfied (idk, I don't get trolls), and people with constructive feedback to share get lumped in to the mean crowd even if they're not. Obvs don't criticize a teenager (or anyone) for having bad skin. That's a given. To me once you start leaving those kinds of comments you're a troll and you get blocked. Or you accept that getting a wider reach than "your people" means you get nasty comments. Welcome back Booty. {{hugs}}
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