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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 9, 2021 23:46:35 GMT
Did he explode when Castor said the people voted for the new administration:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 0:37:41 GMT
Now THAT'S a president!!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 0:41:30 GMT
Trying to remember. As dt directed the mob to march up to the Capitol, I thought somewhere I read that the organizers did not have a permit for the march. They did for the rally but nothing else.
Therefore if no permit, he directed them to do something illegal?!?!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 0:57:43 GMT
Found it!! I believe that the rally permit specifically said no marches. it was permitted to gather period. so trump's minions somehow did not communicate that those were the terms. so trump and guiliani and who ever incited the crowd to march (against the permit)..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 1:02:43 GMT
MSNBC Chris Hayes, "All In" will show the full 13 minute video now
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:45:39 GMT
Over and over and over, arrested rioters say what spurred them: Trump "From those who’ve been arrested already, we hear a consistent refrain: They were there to support Trump or, in their view, there at his behest." www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/09/over-over-over-arrested-rioters-say-what-spurred-them-trump/And he (through his lawyers) is going to have to throw his cultists under a bus (like he does w/anyone when they're no longer useful to him). They're going to have to watch themselves be called "criminals", "vandals", "violent extremists" etc. when they've been fantasizing themselves as "patriots" heeding the call of their great leader.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:46:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:47:46 GMT
Here's the video from Ruskin:
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 14:54:06 GMT
Over and over and over, arrested rioters say what spurred them: Trump "From those who’ve been arrested already, we hear a consistent refrain: They were there to support Trump or, in their view, there at his behest." www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/09/over-over-over-arrested-rioters-say-what-spurred-them-trump/And he (through his lawyers) is going to have to throw his cultists under a bus (like he does w/anyone when they're no longer useful to him). They're going to have to watch themselves be called "criminals", "vandals", "violent extremists" etc. when they've been fantasizing themselves as "patriots" heeding the call of their great leader. His lawyer, Bruce Schoen, gave dt up last night on FOX... talked About the 'other side' (Democrats) have said just as bad retoric etc but they don't have the followers listening.. NOT a direct quote!! ETA: They just played it again on CNN.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 14:55:58 GMT
@zingermack some stations are showing the video in full including the full language.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:56:38 GMT
"Former President Donald Trump has never publicly admitted that he was rejected by American voters. But now his lawyer has. On the floor of the US Senate. Bruce Castor Jr.'s performance at the outset of Trump's second impeachment trial will likely be remembered more for his aimless rambling than anything else. But Castor's Tuesday monologue was also noteworthy for something he said while attempting to get to a rare point. Castor argued that the real reason Trump was impeached again is that his opponents in the House Democratic majority do not want to see him run in the 2024 election. (If two-thirds of senators present vote to convict Trump, a simple majority of senators could then decide to ban Trump from holding future office.) Castor said the decision on who serves as the next president should be left up to the American people. And Castor said: "The people are smart enough ... to pick a new administration if they don't like the old one. And they just did." Then, soon after, Castor added that this is commonplace: "The people get tired of an administration they don't want. And they know how to change it. And they just did." " www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/politics/fact-check-bruce-castor-lawyer-impeachment-trump-lost-election/index.htmlThat's apparently when Trump went apeshit while watching that mess of a 'defense'.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 10, 2021 14:59:05 GMT
And Castor said: "The people are smart enough ... to pick a new administration if they don't like the old one. And they just did." Then, soon after, Castor added that this is commonplace: "The people get tired of an administration they don't want. And they know how to change it. And they just did." " and this is somehow supposed to make it okay that he incited a riot and tried to interfere with the election, or what? I don't understand the connection he's trying to make, here. (granted, I didn't understand much of what he rambled on about, so...)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:59:36 GMT
Trump has no loyalty to anyone but Trump.
You'd think his idiot sycophants would have known that by now.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 15:13:46 GMT
And Castor said: "The people are smart enough ... to pick a new administration if they don't like the old one. And they just did." Then, soon after, Castor added that this is commonplace: "The people get tired of an administration they don't want. And they know how to change it. And they just did." " and this is somehow supposed to make it okay that he incited a riot and tried to interfere with the election, or what? I don't understand the connection he's trying to make, here. (granted, I didn't understand much of what he rambled on about, so...) No, but with that he stated that there is a NEW administration and DT was not reelected!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 15:49:11 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 16:55:17 GMT
Can we hold McConnell to the wheel?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 17:01:35 GMT
“Opinion: Trump lawyer David Schoen’s crazy theory on ‘Hannity’ unmasks the GOP’s ugly core”
“Impeachment managers display first video evidence at Trump trial
Opinion by Greg Sargent Columnist Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:28 a.m. PST
It’s instructive to venture into the confines of Sean Hannity’s universe, because it often showcases the propaganda being injected into the GOP base’s veins in its most venomous form. In this regard, Monday night’s appearance by David Schoen, Donald Trump’s impeachment lawyer, did not disappoint.
Schoen floated a strange theory in defense of the former president. It’s worth unpacking, because it points in a direction that further incriminates Trump. It also underscores what is becoming of the GOP as it prepares to wholly exonerate Trump for attempting to incite the violent overthrow of U.S. democracy. Schoen appeared to suggest law enforcement might refrain from further investigations into the rioters who stormed the Capitol, because they are showing that the assault was preplanned, supposedly exonerating Trump.
“Right now, you really are finding out about the preplanning,” Schoen told Hannity. “And I’m afraid they’re going to back off that investigation, because maybe — you know — so many people want to tie it to Donald Trump.”
Schoen added that in Monday’s Senate trial presentation, the House impeachment managers showed “nothing” that “ties” the assault to Trump. The “they” who might “back off” appears to be a reference to law enforcement. If so, the idea that they might stop investigating rioters to avoid exonerating Trump is rank crackpottery.
But more important, whoever the “they” is here, the theory underlying this story is completely divorced from reality — in a way that actually further incriminates Trump.
Trump’s legal team wants to argue that because investigators are discovering that some rioters preplanned the attack, it proves Trump couldn’t possibly have incited them during his Jan. 6 harangue.
The truth is the opposite: The investigators are turning up evidence that is increasingly damning to Trump, not the other way around.
What the investigations are telling us
We are learning from the investigations that rioters who preplanned their attacks did so because they fully understood that Trump had directed them to do so. In a deep dive into what the investigations are revealing, Post reporters recently found ample evidence of this. Their stark conclusion:
Court documents show that more than two dozen people charged in the attack specifically cited Trump and his calls to gather that day in describing on social media or in conversations with others why they decided to take action by coming to Washington.
More than two dozen cited Trump. One woman who recruited for the assault said days before: “Trump wants all able bodied patriots to come.” A QAnon-supporting man wrote in advance that if Trump called for attacking the Capitol, he’d do it: He was following Trump’s marching orders.
Even the attackers’ own lawyers say Trump inspired them. As one attorney put it to The Post: “What these people heard, including my client, was an invitation, a call to arms by the president.”
One might push back by arguing that they were wrong to believe Trump indicated any of this. But that, too, is blown apart by the public record. Indeed, the House impeachment managers’ report documents numerous examples of Trump explicitly telling his supporters well in advance to prepare to descend on the Capitol, while directly tying this to the big lie that the election had been stolen and that they were the victims of that crime. And an extensive new timeline from Just Security shows many leading pro-Trump voices amplifying the call, also well in advance.
It’s important to emphasize this: In communicating to his supporters for months that the election had been stolen from them, Trump told them in every which way that they were the victims of a tyrannical injustice that could be rectified only by overturning the official election results.
In short, he falsely told them that their own freedom was on the line, and told them to take action in response. They believed him. Trump’s words on the day itself also unequivocally show him inciting the attack, but the lead-up to that day is every bit as incriminating.
GOP’s alternate reality version of the insurrection It’s deeply perverse that despite all this evidence, virtually all GOP senators will acquit Trump. As Sarah Longwell points out, the rioters are being prosecuted for the attacks, but the GOP elites who inspired their crimes — Trump and the GOP senators who themselves propped up the stolen-election lie — will face zero accountability. I’d like to take this idea further. In claiming that ongoing investigations into the attack are only exonerating Trump — that the actual evidence being unearthed simply doesn’t exist at all — Trump’s lawyer is hinting at where the GOP will end up on all this.
Though there are exceptions, many in the party are gravitating toward an absolute refusal to acknowledge the slightest wrongdoing by Trump — a comprehensive refusal to acknowledge the barest existence of any of the extensive factual record demonstrating unambiguously that Trump did incite an effort to overturn our democracy, including with intimidation and violence.
You can see this erasure everywhere. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is now claiming that all this evidence is “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Trump’s constitutional crime simply never happened.
Meanwhile, the Wyoming GOP’s censure of Rep. Liz Cheney for voting to impeach falsely claims antifa instigated the riot and treats the belief of GOP voters in Trump’s absolute innocence as guiding truth. Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), who led Trump’s effort to overturn the election in Congress, continues to do the same.
If large swaths of the GOP are going to comprehensively exonerate Trump and their party of any responsibility for the worst assault on our democracy in modern times, it doesn’t bode particularly well for its future.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 17:08:48 GMT
Too bad the Republicans don’t understand that. Or maybe they do but don’t care if the truth gets in their way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 17:27:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 17:30:15 GMT
One should read the tweet and note the date and time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 17:54:54 GMT
One should read the tweet and note the date and time. Keep in mind, by the time trump tweeted this a Capitol Police Officer had been beaten with a fire extinguisher from which he would later die.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 18:25:23 GMT
The House Managers are making a really strong case against trump. But we know the Republicans won’t vote to convict him and we know the voters who elected these Republican Senators don’t care and they will vote for them again in the next election.
What does that say about us as a country..
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Post by huskergal on Feb 10, 2021 18:29:28 GMT
Any Senator who does not vote to convict is a traitor.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 10, 2021 18:41:32 GMT
Any Senator who does not vote to convict is a traitor. Cowards!!
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Post by withapea on Feb 10, 2021 18:47:35 GMT
They’re doing a really good job today. It’s a real tragedy that we have an entire party dedicated to power at any cost.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 10, 2021 18:58:44 GMT
They’re doing a really good job today. It’s a real tragedy that we have an entire party dedicated to power at any cost.Isn't it, though? it's so mystifying, and horrifying at the same time. Yesterday evening on MSNBC, one expert called it the 'Trumplican' party; the phrase another expert used in talking about the current Republican party was 'irreparably broken.'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 19:05:17 GMT
And yet people will continue to elect these guys. That’s the real tragedy.
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