Archie is going to be a big brother!

I understand where you're coming from, and I don't deny that it may be true as to some people.  But, to say there's no other explanation oversimplifies the situation.  While I certainly wish both mother and baby complete health and as much comfort as possible throughout the pregnancy and birth, I'm not really overjoyed at the news of her pregnancy.  I suppose her biological clock is ticking, but it seems to me that regardless of age, these two have a fair amount of growing up to do.  I feel about this the way you might about a married couple of 20yos announcing a pregnancy - babies are a blessing, and all that, but I do sort of wish they'd tend to themselves a bit longer first.  

Really, though, as between the two, I pin it more on Harry.  He grew up knowing what the expectations of him were.  He's more than old enough to know that you can't really expect to have your cake (effectively renounce your lifelong purpose, position, and home) and eat it (retain the respect/admiration/whatever you want to call it that goes with being a working royal engaged in purposeful public work) too.  I really don't think - for me at least - it's much to do with her at all.

ETA:  Before all the young moms get upset that I didn't think they should have their babies, that's not so.  Some people are very mature at 20, but the vast majority are not.  And almost no people that age have much experience being on their own and finding their own identity, place in the world, etc. by that age.  THAT is what I'm referring to.  It can turn out fine - even great - for some, and I don't deny that.

So it’s a million and one issues but the one I think is most common....nope not buying it? 😂😂🤣


Fine by me.

I absolutely saw many, many instances of racist comments and criticism in the media when Harry and Meghan lived in England. This I think, caused many people to dislike Meghan. Or their racism caused them to appreciate these disgusting articles. I’m not sure which was the cart and which the horse.

Hating Meghan, and finding fault with every thing she did became as National obsession.

Then they very wisely got out of Dodge, and changed their occupation to one that didn’t require them to trot themselves out daily and smile for the very people that were going to use those photos to viciously insult them and lie in order to sell media.

This caused the people who loved all those horrible articles to be peeved that their favorite target wasn’t going to around all the time. And so began the often brought out false equivalence that if they left the royal family job partly to enjoy a measure of privacy and a more normal life, then somehow they’re not allowed ever to be in the media again. Which is ridiculous.

People in this thread admit they follow H and M for the sole purpose of criticizing them. Someone else called it “fun”. I find that idea disgusting. These are real people who have been hurt enormously by this attitude. Making the decision to step down and be away from family had to have been heartbreaking, but I admire that kind of guts, Harry has shown he is strong and will do what it takes to protect his family.

I didn’t over simplify it. I’m acknowledging the many intricate parts that go together to understand why the criticism of H&M is rooted in something less “fun” than just woman picking apart another woman.

It’s sick no matter how you look at it by the way. And we should all be honest enough to acknowledge this wouldn’t happen as much if Megan wasn’t a Black woman. It’s racist and that’s why it looks irrational sometimes. That’s what racism is. Tell tell sign.

It might just be me, definitely an outsider looking in, but doesn't it seem like the whole giving up the work of the royal family and moving to the US hasn't worked in their favor? They had to give up their brand, Harry has lost his military associations, there was all kinds of talk about a multi-million dollar deal with Netflix, their charity work, etc. It seems like there are lots of plans, but everything seems surfacy. And yes, I know everything is complicated by the pandemic. I just wonder (again, from the outside) if things aren't working out like they might have planned. Does anyone else wonder if they'd move back to England and try take up where they left off? Maybe not while the Queen is alive (I'm pretty sure she wouldn't look fondly at a "Hey, we're back!" attempt) but maybe if/when Charles becomes king?

OLan, I am so sorry. I really was not/am not trying to pick a fight with you. I KNOW and whole heartedly believe the disparities in black women's health care are real. I have a friend who is a physician at one of the nation's largest children's hospitals. She researches, writes and speaks about this very topic, especially as it relates to black women and maternal/child health. I am on a professional board with her; she speaks at international conferences, and I have attended several of her workshops. While I have not read the articles you posted (I am multi tasking today, checking 2Peas while finishing a couple of assignments for a class), I have read other articles on this topic, and like I said attended workshops at conferences. I am no expert, and I don't claim to be. I will read your articles later tonight when I am finished with my homework and am able to focus on them.

Again, I am sorry if it seems like I don't want to learn or I am trying to fight with you.

I like Meghan and Harry.
I wish them happiness and hope they have a smooth rest of the pregnancy.

I think Meghan and Harry, as well as anyone else for that matter......will always be "damned if I do, damned if I don't".
They, along with every single other person....will always have to deal with someone else's judgement, opinion, expectations of how one's life should be lived, etc...

I applaud Meghan and Harry, for living their life their way.
No one is perfect. Every single person in the world makes mistakes, has "bumps in the road", has unexpected detours, has struggles of some kind, make a wrong choice (or two.... or ten), has meltdowns, etc... 
Sometimes, life in general is hard. I can't imagine what it's like having so many people cast their judgement and watch ones every move.

A whole bunch of "this post is hidden" and some quoted text that showed up, so Olan is on the all black women are perfect bandwagon again and you can never criticize  any one of them because (perfect!) and everybody who does is a racist. Can't even be bothered with it.
Although I do find it a little interesting that Olan is such a vehement supporter of a woman who spent the majority of her life passing as white, and even now apart from a little word salad every now and then about black issues, really does very little on the subject. (edited for clarity)


Really? How do you know that? The public haven't even seen him for 12 months and he was a wriggling toddler then, so I'd be interested to know what character traits you observed in a 1yo trying to get off his mothers lap that make you convinced he'll be such a "wonderful" brother?
You've got nothing to base that on.
He doesn't seem to be well socialized with other kids. He's not growing up surrounded by all his cousins, his mothers once said that she can't take him to playgroup because they are too famous, and whenever they've been spotted out and about Archie is never with him. Poor kid seems to be relegated to playing in his backyard alone or with his Grandmother. The new baby won't be much company for him for a while.

Interesting as to the timing of the interview with Oprah, just before the 12 month Megxit review. Sounds like the negotiations aren't going in their favour, so they are going to try to pretend all the things coming were their choice.
It'll be more of Harry whining about his military titles no doubt. He can still fully support the military and do everything he did and MORE going forward if he wants to, he's not being stripped of anything he 'earned' they are honorary titles given to him as a working Royal, he's not a working Royal anymore so the titles go. But it seems he's more interested in the pomp and ceremony and having people salute him - he acts like he's just "one of the lads" but the staged cemetery walk, the complaining about the wreath and the constant leaks about how upset he is about those damn pretend titles screams otherwise.
He's used to people clapping and cheering him for just showing up, he doesn't seem to like actually having to DO anything to earn his keep.

I've done a little more googling...
Apparently this interview is mainly Meghan and Oprah "Winfrey will speak with Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, in a wide-ranging interview... Later, the two are joined by Prince Harry"
For a couple who supposedly left because they no longer wanted to be constrained by the Royal family they sure do love using those titles at every opportunity. "Just call me Harry" didn't last long.
"later joined by Harry" JCMH was pissed off at playing second fiddle to his brother and now he's in the same position with his wife.

Also interesting that despite their rumoured multimillion dollar Netflix deal, that CBS will be screening this. If Netflix are paying them all this money, why are they letting them produce content for CBS?

I think all 3 of them are circling the drain with this interview.

Well. I just think it's exciting that there's going to be a baby. Yay for them for being happy.

 especially if it is used in " to judge someone" as it is in this case.

But legally if a Judge passes a sentence on someone then it becomes Judgment.

So context is everything myshelly unless of course you are a judge and passing sentence on us all!

Archie is Prince Harry’s son. Eugenie is Harry’s cousin around his same age, who is also fairly recently married and just had a baby.

Because the person who has the baby gets to enjoy the spotlight for a short time, through the birth going home and name announcement.
When no-one knows you are pregnant yet, you can wait a few days and let the other couple have their moment.
That's just polite especially when you are a part of a very public family. The rest of the Royals are able not to tread on each other's toes, except these two don't give a shit.

Sure they left for more reasons than privacy, because they were both spoiled rotten as kids and now as adults they do whatever they want without regard for the rest of their families, that's why they are estranged from both sets of relatives and the above an example of why.