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Post by christine58 on Mar 9, 2021 21:02:16 GMT
Holy cow. You really are, very simply, a racist ass. I am circling back to this because what I posted here has been bothering me since last night. I am sincerely sorry for my behaviour. It is ok to think someone is a racist. It is NOT ok for me to call her names. Very simply, I should have walked away before I posted instead of after. To anyone I offended with my words, please know it will not happen again. You are one classy person. |
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Post by sideways on Mar 9, 2021 21:08:06 GMT
Oh, and BTW, I questioned why pjaye is so hatefully obsessed with M&H. Nobody here can deny that she’s VERY obsessed with them and her hate is blazing. She just didn’t like it one bit. 🤷♀️ I think you’re confusing having strong opinions with obsession. Speaking of obsession, do you realise that of the 129 posts you have made to date, 43 of them are on this thread? A third... LOL, 😂 OF COURSE someone actually COUNTED! 🤣 But, *I’m* obsessed. Okay... I participate on ONE thread beyond my past sporadic posts, most posts being three or less sentences, and that constitutes “obsession”. 😂🙄 Still no answer as to *what* I’m obsessed with, or specific examples of said obsession. Too funny. |
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Post by sideways on Mar 9, 2021 21:12:43 GMT
Anyone else want to jump on the “sideways is obsessed” jam-pile?   eta - that makes 45 posts now for those keeping count. 34% of my total posts since I joined the board in 2014. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 9, 2021 21:14:03 GMT
I wouldn't be even a little bit surprised by Princess Michael making a comment such as that, I am a bit surprised that Harry would pass it on to Meghan or that they wouldn't name her if that was the case.
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Post by auntiepeas on Mar 9, 2021 21:20:58 GMT
Let me just preface this with, I only got through till page 12 of this thread before watching the interview so will read the rest next.I watched the Meghan and Harry interview last night, my time, when it aired on NZ free-to-air television and am so glad I did. It made such a difference being in a position to use my senses and faculties to assess for myself. Bottom line: I believe they were both being honest. That their feelings of surprise, confusion, pain, frustration, injustice, betrayal, fear, despair, love, loyalty, respect and responsibility were and are genuine. And that their primary motivations are to be safe, well and heard. My take away was that the institution is toxic. Parts of their experience, like fruitlessly reaching out for help to Human Resources, seemed like it could have occurred in any number of institutions (ie, religious, educational, professional, or social). Other parts, like when Prince Charles stopped taking Harry’s calls, and Harry’s perception that the Royal Family are trapped in/by their roles, reminded me of the experiences of those who have left the religious cult, here in NZ, named Gloriavale Christian Community.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 21:22:05 GMT
Also, I am not sure what he said exactly (except that he didn't believe what Meghan said) but now Piers Morgan is leaving the morning show he has been on: www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56334082Piers Morgan has stepped down as presenter of ITV's Good Morning Britain following a row over comments he made about the Duchess of Sussex. It brings the controversial host's time on the breakfast show to an end after six years. ITV announced the decision after Ofcom said it was investigating his comments after receiving 41,000 complaints. On Monday's show, Morgan said he "didn't believe a word" the duchess had told Oprah Winfrey in an interview. An ITV spokesperson said: "Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain. ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add." His departure followed an on-air clash with weather presenter Alex Beresford, who criticised Morgan on Tuesday for "continuing to trash" the duchess, prompting Morgan to walk off set. He returned within 10 minutes. He seems like an awful person, but I would like to know what our British Peas think. He is ! He’s arrogant opinionated and rude. Good ridance,he deserves the consequence of his actions. I might start watching GMB again now that he’s gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 21:37:24 GMT
Im kinda surprised she only used their given names. Doesn't she usually address them as Duke & Dutchess? It’s a message from the Queen herself as a Grandmother as what’s been said by H&M is predominantly a family matter rather than a state matter. |
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Post by mom on Mar 9, 2021 21:38:25 GMT
Im kinda surprised she only used their given names. Doesn't she usually address them as Duke & Dutchess? It’s a message from the Queen herself as a Grandmother as what’s been said by H&M is predominantly a family matter rather than a state matter. Yeah I should have realized that. Thanks. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 9, 2021 21:42:25 GMT
several comments here I think the Palace statement listed Harry, Megan and Archie by name to draw it back into a family context, versus Duke & Duchess which would be the Official Royal title (from the frim/business side of things). I don't believe it was Charles that made the comment about the color of Archie's skin, because he appeared to genuinely care for Megan, and the support he offered her at the Wedding. I am going out on a limb here, (and will probably get a lot of hate), but I believe it was William or Kate that made the comment about skin color. And while it may not have been meant maliciously, but more to inject humor, it was tasteless. And while Kate has many fine qualities, I do not believe she is a genuinely warm, welcoming person. I don't believe she made any effort to welcome Megan, or help her maneuver the rules. I also don't believe that she enjoyed sharing the limelight with Megan, on the few instances they were together. She also seemed to need her sister Pippa with her at those events. On the occasion when the 'Fab four" were together (mental Health initiative), Kate would put on a stony face, pursed lips whenever Megan spoke. At the last official event, Wm barely nodded at Harry and Kate didn't acknowledge H & M at all. The saddest part of this is that Charles wouldn't take Harry's calls. Can you imagine needing to go through a secretary whenever you wanted to speak to your parent? I had hoped/thought that Charles had become more open to his son's needs following Diana's death. No hate from me, but this is exactly what this type of accusation does. You aren’t the only one who has decided it must be William or Catherine. But we don’t know that and in the current climate it’s irresponsible to imply someone is racist to 17M people on public television without backing up your claims. Catherine may not be the most warm and welcoming woman, but that doesn’t make her racist or even a bitch. As usual, everyone expected her to somehow show Meghan the ropes, TOTALLY letting Harry off the hook. Harry was responsible for preparing her for what she faced. Based on their own statements in the interview he was useless in helping her since they started dating. Also, she bears responsibility for not doing her own research. Everyone tries to imply she was some young, naive girl who had no idea. She was a 35 year old woman who had been married before and managing her own career. We shouldn’t be infantilsing her when it’s convenient to our position. She shouldn’t be doing it either if she expects to be taken seriously. |
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Post by papersilly on Mar 9, 2021 21:44:48 GMT
He seems like an awful person, but I would like to know what our British Peas think. He is ! He’s arrogant opinionated and rude. Good ridance,he deserves the consequence of his actions. I might start watching GMB again now that he’s gone. i saw snippets of that show where they discussed the interview. i never watched the show before so i didn't know he disliked MM so much. didn't even try to hide it. like reeeaaallly doesn't like her. sorry not sorry he's gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 21:46:44 GMT
Individually they would never do that and never have and if the truth be known Harry and Meghan knew this or at least Harry would have. It's very unusual for the monarchy to even issue a statement on a controversial matter but I sincerely hope that they do make a statement and let us all get to the truth of this. What would make whatever they say more worthy of believing than what H&M said? Serious question? In my eyes, they buried this for multiple years. Anything they say now in regards to that matter is too little, too late. I don’t think it’s a matter of one being more worthy than the other but there’s usually two sides to every story. I just happen to think that they should comment on this rather than stay silent as they normally do when things are either reported out of context or are just pure lies at times. |
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Post by christine58 on Mar 9, 2021 21:52:20 GMT
Anyone else want to jump on the “sideways is obsessed” jam-pile? eta - that makes 45 posts now for those keeping count. 34% of my total posts since I joined the board in 2014. Nope because it’s pretty stupid if you ask me. |
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Post by Laurie on Mar 9, 2021 21:53:51 GMT
several comments here I think the Palace statement listed Harry, Megan and Archie by name to draw it back into a family context, versus Duke & Duchess which would be the Official Royal title (from the frim/business side of things). I don't believe it was Charles that made the comment about the color of Archie's skin, because he appeared to genuinely care for Megan, and the support he offered her at the Wedding. I am going out on a limb here, (and will probably get a lot of hate), but I believe it was William or Kate that made the comment about skin color. And while it may not have been meant maliciously, but more to inject humor, it was tasteless. And while Kate has many fine qualities, I do not believe she is a genuinely warm, welcoming person. I don't believe she made any effort to welcome Megan, or help her maneuver the rules. I also don't believe that she enjoyed sharing the limelight with Megan, on the few instances they were together. She also seemed to need her sister Pippa with her at those events. On the occasion when the 'Fab four" were together (mental Health initiative), Kate would put on a stony face, pursed lips whenever Megan spoke. At the last official event, Wm barely nodded at Harry and Kate didn't acknowledge H & M at all. The saddest part of this is that Charles wouldn't take Harry's calls. Can you imagine needing to go through a secretary whenever you wanted to speak to your parent? I had hoped/thought that Charles had become more open to his son's needs following Diana's death. No hate from me, but this is exactly what this type of accusation does. You aren’t the only one who has decided it must be William or Catherine. But we don’t know that and in the current climate it’s irresponsible to imply someone is racist to 17M people on public television without backing up your claims. Catherine may not be the most warm and welcoming woman, but that doesn’t make her racist or even a bitch. As usual, everyone expected her to somehow show Meghan the ropes, TOTALLY letting Harry off the hook. Harry was responsible for preparing her for what she faced. Based on their own statements in the interview he was useless in helping her since they started dating. Also, she bears responsibility for not doing her own research. Everyone tries to imply she was some young, naive girl who had no idea. She was a 35 year old woman who had been married before and managing her own career. We shouldn’t be infantilsing her when it’s convenient to our position. She shouldn’t be doing it either if she expects to be taken seriously. ^What she said. It always gets me when a woman is basically called a bitch just because she isn't sitting there smiling all the time. All in all I think the brunt of the problems stem with Harry...not Meghan, Kate, William, etc. He should have helped her navigate through learning everything. She shouldn't have been expected to just drop into that role and know what to do from the start, especially given that she isn't from there. I have never been fond of Charles so I am okay throwing him under the bus though.  I kid...I softened a bit with him at Harry and Meghan's wedding though because as others mentioned he did appear to try and help Meghan and her mom. |
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Post by tracylynn on Mar 9, 2021 22:04:26 GMT
What would make whatever they say more worthy of believing than what H&M said? Serious question? In my eyes, they buried this for multiple years. Anything they say now in regards to that matter is too little, too late. I don’t think it’s a matter of one being more worthy than the other but there’s usually two sides to every story. I just happen to think that they should comment on this rather than stay silent as they normally do when things are either reported out of context or are just pure lies at times. Fair enough. Another question, if you don't mind. Do you honestly believe that Harry would lie about his family, or allow his wife to do so on National TV? While I definitely understand that there are 2 sides to every story and the truth is somewhere in the middle, I just absolutely don't believe that Harry would do that. |
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Post by lesley on Mar 9, 2021 22:18:33 GMT
I think you’re confusing having strong opinions with obsession. Speaking of obsession, do you realise that of the 129 posts you have made to date, 43 of them are on this thread? A third... LOL, 😂 OF COURSE someone actually COUNTED! 🤣 But, *I’m* obsessed. Okay... I participate on ONE thread beyond my past sporadic posts, most posts being three or less sentences, and that constitutes “obsession”. 😂🙄 Still no answer as to *what* I’m obsessed with, or specific examples of said obsession. Too funny. Yup, you’re right, I did count. I had never noticed you on any other threads and it felt that every other post seemed to be you retorting on someone else’s comment. I was curious how many times you had posted here, and saw a certain irony in you accusing others of being obsessed when this thread had obviously... captured your attention in a way no other ever had. Whatever. |
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Post by gar on Mar 9, 2021 22:29:25 GMT
It is probably to be less formal, more conciliatory. And as Dottyscrapper said, she was speaking more in family terms. |
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Post by sideways on Mar 9, 2021 22:35:39 GMT
LOL, 😂 OF COURSE someone actually COUNTED! 🤣 But, *I’m* obsessed. Okay... I participate on ONE thread beyond my past sporadic posts, most posts being three or less sentences, and that constitutes “obsession”. 😂🙄 Still no answer as to *what* I’m obsessed with, or specific examples of said obsession. Too funny. Yup, you’re right, I did count. I had never noticed you on any other threads and it felt that every other post seemed to be you retorting on someone else’s comment. I was curious how many times you had posted here, and saw a certain irony in you accusing others of being obsessed when this thread had obviously... captured your attention in a way no other ever had. Whatever. Did you count how many times I was quoted and then responded? Because, when someone quotes me, I usually respond. I thought that’s how online forums worked; someone posts, another person quotes said post and responds, the first person is tagged and responds by quoting the post they’re responding to, and so on. Discussion, and all that. I happened to have a lot of time to kill the last few days. Are you going to count the number of posts others have made on all H&M threads? I mean, if you want to discuss “obsession”. I might have commented once on one other H&M thread in all my years here. |
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Post by lesley on Mar 9, 2021 22:48:28 GMT
Yup, you’re right, I did count. I had never noticed you on any other threads and it felt that every other post seemed to be you retorting on someone else’s comment. I was curious how many times you had posted here, and saw a certain irony in you accusing others of being obsessed when this thread had obviously... captured your attention in a way no other ever had. Whatever. Because, when someone quotes me, I usually respond. I thought that’s how online forums worked; someone posts, another person quotes said post and responds, the first person is tagged and responds by quoting the post they’re responding to, and so on. Discussion, and all that. I happened to have a lot of time to kill the last few days. Are you going to count the number of posts others have made on all H&M threads? I mean, if you want to discuss “obsession”. I might have commented once on one other H&M thread in all my years here. Um no, because there is a limit to my curiosity. But thank you for explaining how message boards work. |
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Post by sideways on Mar 9, 2021 22:53:50 GMT
Did you count how many times I was quoted and then responded? Because, when someone quotes me, I usually respond. I thought that’s how online forums worked; someone posts, another person quotes said post and responds, the first person is tagged and responds by quoting the post they’re responding to, and so on. Discussion, and all that. I happened to have a lot of time to kill the last few days. Are you going to count the number of posts others have made on all H&M threads? I mean, if you want to discuss “obsession”. I might have commented once on one other H&M thread in all my years here. Um no, because there is a limit to my curiosity. But thank you for explaining how message boards work. You’re welcome. (I think that’s 47 now, btw.) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 23:05:37 GMT
I find it ironic that Harry gets criticized for doing whatever it takes to protect his wife and child. Charles was criticized (well deserved, BTW) for behaving the exact opposite in his marriage to Diana. Diana would still be with us if Charles had been the type of husband Harry is to Meghan.
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Post by artgirl1 on Mar 9, 2021 23:06:43 GMT
^What she said. It always gets me when a woman is basically called a bitch just because she isn't sitting there smiling all the time. I did not call her a bitch, but that she was not welcoming. She had a diffirent demeanor when seen with Megan. All in all I think the brunt of the problems stem with Harry...not Meghan, Kate, William, etc. He should have helped her navigate through learning everything. She shouldn't have been expected to just drop into that role and know what to do from the start, especially given that she isn't from there. Who says Harry didn't prepare her BASED upon his experience being born and raised in the firm. His experiences and knowledge would be completely different from Kate's who came from outside. What would seem challenging for an outsider was just how it was for Harry. I think that Kate was eased into the role with help from the royal family. Even Diana was groomed by the Queen Mum for a long period, and she was still challenged. Megan gave up her home country, career, friends etc. She was alone in England, while Harry was carry out official duties. It would be a challenge for anyone, even a 35 year old woman. When she asked for mental health assistance, she was dismissed, by those managing the firm. It is not like she could go directly to the Queen, or Charles, etc. She had to first ask for an audience, and state her needs. Where or who was she to go to? It seems like we selectively give a pass to some women for some things and not for others. |
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Post by mom on Mar 9, 2021 23:10:43 GMT
^What she said. It always gets me when a woman is basically called a bitch just because she isn't sitting there smiling all the time. I did not call her a bitch, but that she was not welcoming. She had a diffirent demeanor when seen with Megan. All in all I think the brunt of the problems stem with Harry...not Meghan, Kate, William, etc. He should have helped her navigate through learning everything. She shouldn't have been expected to just drop into that role and know what to do from the start, especially given that she isn't from there. Who says Harry didn't prepare her BASED upon his experience being born and raised in the firm. His experiences and knowledge would be completely different from Kate's who came from outside. What would seem challenging for an outsider was just how it was for Harry. I think that Kate was eased into the role with help from the royal family. Even Diana was groomed by the Queen Mum for a long period, and she was still challenged. Megan gave up her home country, career, friends etc. She was alone in England, while Harry was carry out official duties. It would be a challenge for anyone, even a 35 year old woman. When she asked for mental health assistance, she was dismissed, by those managing the firm. It is not like she could go directly to the Queen, or Charles, etc. She had to first ask for an audience, and state her needs. Where or who was she to go to? It seems like we selectively give a pass to some women for some things and not for others. Isn't her mother a social worker who worked in the mental health field? She could start with her. |
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Post by mom on Mar 9, 2021 23:12:03 GMT
I find it ironic that Harry gets criticized for doing whatever it takes to protect his wife and child. Charles was criticized (well deserved, BTW) for behaving the exact opposite in his marriage to Diana. Diana would still be with us if Charles had been the type of husband Harry is to Meghan. Harry shrugged his shoulders and was too embarrassed to seek help for Meghan and his unborn child. He gets zero pat on the backs from me. |
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 9, 2021 23:28:14 GMT
several comments here I think the Palace statement listed Harry, Megan and Archie by name to draw it back into a family context, versus Duke & Duchess which would be the Official Royal title (from the frim/business side of things). I don't believe it was Charles that made the comment about the color of Archie's skin, because he appeared to genuinely care for Megan, and the support he offered her at the Wedding. I am going out on a limb here, (and will probably get a lot of hate), but I believe it was William or Kate that made the comment about skin color. And while it may not have been meant maliciously, but more to inject humor, it was tasteless. And while Kate has many fine qualities, I do not believe she is a genuinely warm, welcoming person. I don't believe she made any effort to welcome Megan, or help her maneuver the rules. I also don't believe that she enjoyed sharing the limelight with Megan, on the few instances they were together. She also seemed to need her sister Pippa with her at those events. On the occasion when the 'Fab four" were together (mental Health initiative), Kate would put on a stony face, pursed lips whenever Megan spoke. At the last official event, Wm barely nodded at Harry and Kate didn't acknowledge H & M at all. The saddest part of this is that Charles wouldn't take Harry's calls. Can you imagine needing to go through a secretary whenever you wanted to speak to your parent? I had hoped/thought that Charles had become more open to his son's needs following Diana's death. No hate from me, but this is exactly what this type of accusation does. You aren’t the only one who has decided it must be William or Catherine. But we don’t know that and in the current climate it’s irresponsible to imply someone is racist to 17M people on public television without backing up your claims. Catherine may not be the most warm and welcoming woman, but that doesn’t make her racist or even a bitch. As usual, everyone expected her to somehow show Meghan the ropes, TOTALLY letting Harry off the hook. Harry was responsible for preparing her for what she faced. Based on their own statements in the interview he was useless in helping her since they started dating. Also, she bears responsibility for not doing her own research. Everyone tries to imply she was some young, naive girl who had no idea. She was a 35 year old woman who had been married before and managing her own career. We shouldn’t be infantilsing her when it’s convenient to our position. She shouldn’t be doing it either if she expects to be taken seriously. Obviously I don’t know Catherine from anyone but it boggles my mind that pregnant with her third child/post partum she was supposed to do more then Harry to help prep Meghan, yet Harry is off the hook after being in the royal family for 30 whatever years. And he gets a pass on not helping her when she made suicidal ideations yet he established a mental health organization with William and Kate and is now in the works putting together some mental health related thing with Oprah? Not to mention it seemed William gave them guidance on slowing it all down. As far as changing after the tour, wasn’t that when Meghan gave her interview complaining no one was concerned about her? |
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Post by SuPeaNatural on Mar 9, 2021 23:33:58 GMT
On the skin colour issue, Meghan refused to name the person because it would be damaging to that person. This leads me to think it was either Charles or William, as they have the most to lose, popularity wise. Both are in line for the "top job", so a comment like that from either of them, would make them very unpopular. Or it could have been either of their wives. Hard to imagine Kate saying it, but Camilla - I can easily see that. And comments from wives will certainly damage the husband in the eyes of the public.
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Post by jeanninem on Mar 10, 2021 0:04:28 GMT
No hate from me, but this is exactly what this type of accusation does. You aren’t the only one who has decided it must be William or Catherine. But we don’t know that and in the current climate it’s irresponsible to imply someone is racist to 17M people on public television without backing up your claims. Catherine may not be the most warm and welcoming woman, but that doesn’t make her racist or even a bitch. As usual, everyone expected her to somehow show Meghan the ropes, TOTALLY letting Harry off the hook. Harry was responsible for preparing her for what she faced. Based on their own statements in the interview he was useless in helping her since they started dating. Also, she bears responsibility for not doing her own research. Everyone tries to imply she was some young, naive girl who had no idea. She was a 35 year old woman who had been married before and managing her own career. We shouldn’t be infantilsing her when it’s convenient to our position. She shouldn’t be doing it either if she expects to be taken seriously. Obviously I don’t know Catherine from anyone but it boggles my mind that pregnant with her third child/post partum she was supposed to do more then Harry to help prep Meghan, yet Harry is off the hook after being in the royal family for 30 whatever years. And he gets a pass on not helping her when she made suicidal ideations yet he established a mental health organization with William and Kate and is now in the works putting together some mental health related thing with Oprah? Not to mention it seemed William gave them guidance on slowing it all down. As far as changing after the tour, wasn’t that when Meghan gave her interview complaining no one was concerned about her? I can't agree with this more. I imagine Harry like a tour guide. His client was Meghan and his responsibility was to guide her in this foreign land call BRF. He did a pretty shitty job. While the outcome might have been the same, perhaps much of her experience could have been different had he prepared her for the role that only a hundred or so people in the world are familiar with. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 0:04:31 GMT
I don’t think it’s a matter of one being more worthy than the other but there’s usually two sides to every story. I just happen to think that they should comment on this rather than stay silent as they normally do when things are either reported out of context or are just pure lies at times. Fair enough. Another question, if you don't mind. Do you honestly believe that Harry would lie about his family, or allow his wife to do so on National TV? While I definitely understand that there are 2 sides to every story and the truth is somewhere in the middle, I just absolutely don't believe that Harry would do that. I don’t think either of them deliberately lied, everything they said is obviously very real to them and certainly has had a profound affect on them. Having said that I do have a “hunch” “feeling” whatever one wants to call it that there very well could have been a misunderstanding of some of the thing that they said and some of it was not factually correct from the protocol side of things such as Archie’s title for instance. It doesn’t help that most of what was said was part of a story/ event with no ending. Whether this was deliberate editing or not by the production company who knows. |
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Post by Jennifer C on Mar 10, 2021 0:11:46 GMT
Obviously I don’t know Catherine from anyone but it boggles my mind that pregnant with her third child/post partum she was supposed to do more then Harry to help prep Meghan, yet Harry is off the hook after being in the royal family for 30 whatever years. And he gets a pass on not helping her when she made suicidal ideations yet he established a mental health organization with William and Kate and is now in the works putting together some mental health related thing with Oprah? Not to mention it seemed William gave them guidance on slowing it all down. As far as changing after the tour, wasn’t that when Meghan gave her interview complaining no one was concerned about her? I can't agree with this more. I imagine Harry like a tour guide. His client was Meghan and his responsibility was to guide her in this foreign land call BRF. He did a pretty shitty job. While the outcome might have been the same, perhaps much of her experience could have been different had he prepared her for the role that only a hundred or so people in the world are familiar with. I totally agree with you. Harry failed to help set Meghan up for success. Fergie had to rush out and teach her how to curtsy before her first meeting with the Queen? How about give her a day or even an hour notice so that she can do it right. This was so telling to me. Jennifer |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 10, 2021 0:18:16 GMT
I read several blogs on the BRF, and this one is transitioning over to a new platform, but she did publish an article a couple of days ago. She's clearly very pro-Kate, BUT I feel like she gives a fair assessment of why Meghan is stumbling: fromberkshiretobuckingham.com/2021/03/meghans-slap-in-the-face-to-kate-at-the-royal-foundation-forum-in-2018/A snippet from the blog post: "When Meghan and Harry got engaged, I expressed some concern that Meghan would not understand and thrive within the British Royal Family. As the months rolled by and Meghan challenged royal convention, it became clear that Meghan did not recognize a very important principle of the British monarchy: The Palace will ruthlessly protect its central figures. It is a machine that will show no mercy in its quest to ensure the survival of the institution. It was before the Sussexes even married that I saw this crisis looming. Meghan “hit the ground running,” and came in with the attitude of a CEO hired to save a failing company. She was praised as the breath of fresh air the stodgy monarchy needed. With her Hollywood glamour and her American can-do attitude, she was the darling of the media. Inevitably, the press compared her to Kate, and the narrative formed that Kate was dull next to Meghan’s shining stardom." My point in sharing this is that Meghan didn't understand what being a member of the BRF truly meant back in 2018 and doesn't seem to have increased her knowledge much at all since. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 10, 2021 0:29:15 GMT
So I finally had a chance to watch the interview in its entirety and I do think those who like me were commenting on snippets should find the time to see the whole interview as a lot of what was kicked around wasn't exactly accurate by just seeing a snippet (for example the fact that Archie would be Prince when Charles ascends the throne per the 1917 patent was discussed and there was discussion that even then a change to protocol so that he wouldn't be prince).
Now my thoughts - a decade makes a HUGE amount of difference. I am just under 10 years older than Meghan and lived through the Diana v Fergie debacle of press insanity. Anyone that believed the royal family would protect spouses from horrific press coverage could not have been privy to that cluster. The RF seems to work exceptionally hard at protecting the ROYALS - the spouses - yeah not so much. So I really do think that both of them were extremely naive about how they would react to poor press for Meghan. Harry came to age in an era of let's not be total assfaces to these kids as we were to their mother and it showed in his delusions about what to expect.
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I kid...I softened a bit with him at Harry and Meghan's wedding though because as others mentioned he did appear to try and help Meghan and her mom. 
