Harry & Meghan Oprah Interview Tonight

There's a great deal of woke virtue signaling that goes on around here and I'm sure that for some women here that level of 'woke-ness' is just for message board posts and doesn't reflect what really happens in their private lives.

Speaking of genetic traits, wasn't there a lot of cousin marrying in the royal family for generations?

This debacle has certainly re-ignited the whole "should Australia become a republic" debate again. We had a referendum on this about 20 odd years ago (I think it was 1999?) and slightly more than half voted against it (so voted to remain a constitutional parliamentary monarchy).

Look, the thing is, you didn’t just post your own comment to express your opinion.

You quoted and used mine to “trash” and “rubbish” what I shared, even after I explained and evidence what I agreed with.

I find that offensive.

That  doesn't just apply to the British Royal family but to every Royal Family in Europe. It would probably be quite true of many Americans too if they went back far enough through their ancestral history. It's happened all over the world and still does in many countries such as in Africa and Asia.

You are offended because I re-quoted an opinion-piece that you had quoted from a news website, a piece that you agree with but which I don’t? Isn’t that what opinion pieces are all about? Some people will agree with them and some won’t. As I said before, we are all entitled to our own opinions, it’s ok for you agree with him, and it’s ok for me not to. How is that offensive???


ETA: oh, I just realised that you delete part of the posts you are responding to, and I didn’t. Are you offended that I left your words there and didn’t post only what Glenn McConnell had written? If so, I apologise for not deleting what you had written. I am not apologising for disagreeing with what he wrote, only for not deleting you words.

U.K. first Black member of parliament talking about racism


newsadvance.com/news/world/uks-1st-black-female-mp-reacts-to-prince-williams-claim-that-royal-family-is-not/video_21900943-c2b9-5edb-a87f-cc804db70468.html

Big breath.
If this thread isn’t circling victim blaming, I’m a monkey’s uncle. 

Think about threads we’ve had about things like workplace sexual harassment, about date rape, about domestic abuse, about racism and sexism, about mental illness gone unnoticed or unadmitted. Think about the surprising-yet-typical coping choices we’ve learned about, often including inaction, half-hearted action, or accusations after the fact.

Continuing to catalogue the ways this woman should have accessed mental health treatment (Just pick up the phone!get in the car!ask your social worker mother!hop on Zoom with an American therapist!), to my read, implies doubt and disbelief. Continuing to ask why obstetric providers didn’t know, to my read, implies doubt and disbelief. Continuing to claim it defies understanding that someone feeling hopeless and uncertain - in a singularly unusual family institution - didn’t continue to push for help, to my read, implies doubt and disbelief.

Continuing to claim that what we know of people in a professionally public family (this one was so nice to a Black woman at a wedding on TV; this one is so hardworking and no-nonsense; these ones regularly champion mental health) means they could never behave differently in private, or never harbor the self same stigmas and biases that they work to erase, to my read, implies doubt and disbelief about both mental illness and racism. (Yes, that is an atrocious sentence.) The phrase “Physician, heal thyself” endures for a reason. 

We’re Monday morning quarterbacking in a way that I thought we had learned over the years to reconsider. In the long run, will our opinions about this couple make a damn bit of difference? Nah. It’s just a lively thread. Criticize them for whatever reasons, much of which I don’t know enough about to judge. (Although, c’mon: they shouldn’t have moved to Santa Barbara?!)

But in our other public and private dealings with mental illness and racism (and the other issues that don’t always go the way we think they should have gone)? Yes, I think it does make an attitudinal difference, which drives change, and I hope we return to becoming less “Should have” and “Couldn’t be.”

Ah yes I see that in the link now, thanks. The link is blocked in this country that was why I couldn't read the content of it.

She looks evil. Being a racist asshole seems to cause premature aging.

Not a recent photo and there was an absolute uproar when it happened in the press/public at least.

Old pic from 2017.  But I just used it to highlight.  She ended up apologizing after the uproar, but still.  It was clearly intentional and worn to be hurtful.

I don't think William should have responded to the shouted question quite frankly. I understand when someone asks "is the royal family a racist family" while you're walking down the street - it's hard to not respond. But now we just have a headline that makes it sound like he denied any issue at all and many headlines are making it sound like he was directly contradicting Harry & Meghan which is really not how it went down. The royal family is large, the infamous brooch was worn at a luncheon of 50. I have no doubt whatsoever that Princess Michael of Kent is racist as hell - but I can also acknowledge being a bit annoyed that my grandmother's first cousin's wife's behavior is being painted as systemic. Maybe it is, I don't know these people. I think a more nuanced response could have been crafted.

Maybe it is?

How could it not be?

The way people not affected by racism deny its existence really shouldn’t get under my skin as much as it does but man how fucking stupid does one sound trying to convince anyone anti-blackness and racism is an issue everywhere else but in their family.


He should have kept his mouth shut. They had already released a statement.


You can’t keep denying racism exists...I mean look what happens when we do.