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Post by disneypal on Mar 18, 2021 13:00:26 GMT
I don't see cutting the Q&A as punishment for those that didn't watch live - it is more of a benefit for those that do.
I follow a few local musicians on FB and they will leave their live performances up for a couple of hours and then remove them. I don't think they are trying to punish those that didn't watch live though.
It is hard for me to watch most scrap booking videos live since many are held during my work hours - I miss out sometimes but no big deal to me.
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JustTricia
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Post by JustTricia on Mar 18, 2021 13:09:48 GMT
I’m confused. You come here to bitch about TH but yet you still watch his videos so he profits off you.
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Post by nicolep on Mar 18, 2021 14:01:13 GMT
Anyhoo, the return of buttons, folks. It had been a few months since the anti-TH parade came through our neighbourhood. *taps feet to the beat* Oh no sleepingbooty, buttons was here a few weeks ago when Lara also made herself known on the boards. Such joy. 🙄 Anyway, never been a fan of Tim's products so it's no skin off my back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 14:36:32 GMT
It feels very unfair to his fans in other countries, weekend workers, frontline healthcare workers! It’s arrogance and tone deaf for the time we are living through. It is also another way to push his products and make money, on his terms. His choice and he chooses to stick two fingers up to his loyal patrons. Heathcare -that right there is something not fair and worthy of stomping your feet about. I saw a comment on his Facebook from a nurse who is working 18 hour shifts pleading for full replays and they were dismissive of her. He makes his choices and we then make ours not to support him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 14:40:00 GMT
I heard Tim is releasing new products. He’s trying to run a business & make a profit off of people that enjoy crafting! AND get this...he has a YouTube channel that provides hours of FREE content and instruction to crafters! The nerve of him! *insert sarcasm here*
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 14:47:45 GMT
Heathcare -that right there is something not fair and worthy of stomping your feet about. I saw a comment on his Facebook from a nurse who is working 18 hour shifts pleading for full replays and they were dismissive of her. He makes his choices and we then make ours not to support him. Let’s see that post. I want to see where Tim was “dismissive” of this person.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 14:50:25 GMT
I heard Tim is releasing new products. He’s trying to run a business & make a profit off of people that enjoy crafting! AND get this...he has a YouTube channel that provides hours of FREE content and instruction to crafters! The nerve of him! *insert sarcasm here* LOLZ he certainly makes a profit off gullible women. He’s so kind and generous for showing us what to buy. He makes no money for the FREE content 🤔 He uses the time to berate and humiliate crafters and he has a team of administrators deleting comments that speak out in opposition. Plus he has his cult like fans who live and die by his words. 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 14:51:14 GMT
I heard Tim is releasing new products. He’s trying to run a business & make a profit off of people that enjoy crafting! AND get this...he has a YouTube channel that provides hours of FREE content and instruction to crafters! The nerve of him! *insert sarcasm here* LOLZ he certainly makes a profit off gullible women. He’s so kind and generous for showing us what to buy. He makes no money for the FREE content 🤔 He uses the time to berate and humiliate crafters and he has a team of administrators deleting comments that speak out in opposition. Plus he has his cult like fans who live and die by his words. 🙄 Okay, Lara. ETA: We’re still waiting for that post by Tim dismissing the nurse that works 18 hours shifts and was pleading for him to include the Q&A
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Post by mom on Mar 18, 2021 15:17:40 GMT
Heathcare -that right there is something not fair and worthy of stomping your feet about. I saw a comment on his Facebook from a nurse who is working 18 hour shifts pleading for full replays and they were dismissive of her. He makes his choices and we then make ours not to support him. Can you share a screenshot? I just cannot imagine this happened.
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Post by quinmm14 on Mar 18, 2021 15:40:55 GMT
I heard Tim is releasing new products. He’s trying to run a business & make a profit off of people that enjoy crafting! AND get this...he has a YouTube channel that provides hours of FREE content and instruction to crafters! The nerve of him! *insert sarcasm here* LOLZ he certainly makes a profit off gullible women. He’s so kind and generous for showing us what to buy. He makes no money for the FREE content 🤔 He uses the time to berate and humiliate crafters and he has a team of administrators deleting comments that speak out in opposition. Plus he has his cult like fans who live and die by his words. 🙄 Damn, life's too short to be all tore up about a hobby that we're supposed to be enjoying. If I got that upset over something that I was *choosing* to watch, I think I'd probably step back from that particular crafter's social media channels. I mean, he's not actually doing any arm twisting here, right? As to your comment about gullible women, if you're grouping yourself there, that's fine and I'll move right along but please don't include me (or I'd dare say) a lot of other women here with that definition.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 18, 2021 15:44:08 GMT
Lara del Nay
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JustTricia
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Post by JustTricia on Mar 18, 2021 15:58:00 GMT
I heard Tim is releasing new products. He’s trying to run a business & make a profit off of people that enjoy crafting! AND get this...he has a YouTube channel that provides hours of FREE content and instruction to crafters! The nerve of him! *insert sarcasm here* LOLZ he certainly makes a profit off gullible women. He’s so kind and generous for showing us what to buy. He makes no money for the FREE content 🤔 He uses the time to berate and humiliate crafters and he has a team of administrators deleting comments that speak out in opposition. Plus he has his cult like fans who live and die by his words. 🙄 Man, now I REALLY wish I would have posted the original thing I wanted to instead of deleting it. By FREE content, the poster meant it is free to us as consumers. And it is 100% free to us. We can get FB free, YT free, and visit his website for free. If we CHOOSE to buy his products, again that is our choice. But of course he is showing us what to buy. He.is.a.brand. He makes his money by us buying his products. He is not your buddy or your friend or your pal. He is a business owner selling a product. Go call QVC and tell the people to stop selling their wares to you, see how it goes. It’s so interesting for you to post that he profits off of gullible women. You realize he is profiting off you by you watching his videos, correct? So you are calling yourself gullible. For someone who is really trying to disparage TH you sure like to stay involved in what funds him. I’ve been a member of the Addicts FB Group for over a year. First off, as I know it has been explained to you before, IT’S NOT TIM’S GROUP!!! Mario may be an admin and Tim may be a member, but it is not a group run by his brand. It is a fan group that states “We encourage you to share anything related to Tim Holtz in a positive light”. Right there they are telling you be a dick and we’ll delete your comments. Don’t like it? Start your own group, join another group, post here, but be prepared for people to disagree with you. As is our right to do. Second, I have never seen anyone berated or humiliated on the page. Show.proof. I am not a “cult like fan” who lives and dies by his words. I’m just a crafter who is tired of the fecking bullshit that keeps getting posted by people who won’t.post.proof of things that should be easily proven by taking screenshots. If you’re so riled up about it that you choose to bring it here, again, post. a.screenshot. Post us a link. Do something besides talk out of both sides of your mouth. If you hate him so much, stop supporting him by watching his videos. Because by showing you watch them you have lost credibility with me to believe the things you say. If these things are happening and can be so easily proven, why won’t you? If those things are happening yet you still watch his videos which pay him, you are a hypocrite.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 16:01:48 GMT
I get what you're saying @buttons about Tim's style. I watched one of his recent demo videos. It was good. I wouldn't fuss if I couldn't watch it though. He's definitely selling. He sells well.
But he does whine at complaints. I've heard him do it before. In this latest one he intimated that people complain about the glass mat plastic thing on the side. Then he said something like "if it doesn't work, just buy a new one." It was stupid and unnecessary. I've seen him do it before.
But clearly, what he's doing works for him and bring in enough profits to keep him happy.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 18, 2021 17:43:19 GMT
from what i understand, the OP is not a fan of TH by a mile. i don't know why but maybe someone can enlighten me.
the way i see it, businesses have been bellying up right and left during this pandemic and people are doing what they can to keep their companies afloat. that includes seemingly unimportant commerce such as the craft industry. but hey, it's still a business and people associated with it still have a mortgage or rent to pay and mouths to feed. so i understand the selling selling selling that TH does in those free demos. i wouldn't expect less. he's gotta eat too and he's definitely good at it. i haven't purchased anything from his new line but i do like a few pieces.
on another note, crafting has been a great distraction from the pandemic for many people. being cooped in the house has given many people the time to work on stuff they've been putting off or haven't had the time for. the way i see it, if i'm inside crafting, that means i'm not outside catching the virus or passing it on to others. TH doing demos is no different than the thousands of other artisans sharing their craft with others. the fact that he makes money from it doesn't bother me. he has to be compensated for that information and product he shares with us.
it's fine if OP doesn't like TH. maybe she even hates him. but we all have crafters we don't like. i have never been into any of the celeb SBers. not back then and not now. TH is closer to my style and aesthetic so i enjoy his demos. best of all they are free and available on replay.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 18, 2021 17:47:22 GMT
LOLZ he certainly makes a profit off gullible women. He’s so kind and generous for showing us what to buy. He makes no money for the FREE content 🤔 He uses the time to berate and humiliate crafters and he has a team of administrators deleting comments that speak out in opposition. Plus he has his cult like fans who live and die by his words. 🙄 Man, now I REALLY wish I would have posted the original thing I wanted to instead of deleting it. By FREE content, the poster meant it is free to us as consumers. And it is 100% free to us. We can get FB free, YT free, and visit his website for free. If we CHOOSE to buy his products, again that is our choice. But of course he is showing us what to buy. He.is.a.brand. He makes his money by us buying his products. He is not your buddy or your friend or your pal. He is a business owner selling a product. Go call QVC and tell the people to stop selling their wares to you, see how it goes.
It’s so interesting for you to post that he profits off of gullible women. You realize he is profiting off you by you watching his videos, correct? So you are calling yourself gullible. For someone who is really trying to disparage TH you sure like to stay involved in what funds him.
I’ve been a member of the Addicts FB Group for over a year. First off, as I know it has been explained to you before, IT’S NOT TIM’S GROUP!!! Mario may be an admin and Tim may be a member, but it is not a group run by his brand. It is a fan group that states “We encourage you to share anything related to Tim Holtz in a positive light”. Right there they are telling you be a dick and we’ll delete your comments. Don’t like it? Start your own group, join another group, post here, but be prepared for people to disagree with you. As is our right to do.
Second, I have never seen anyone berated or humiliated on the page. Show.proof.
I am not a “cult like fan” who lives and dies by his words. I’m just a crafter who is tired of the fecking bullshit that keeps getting posted by people who won’t.post.proof of things that should be easily proven by taking screenshots. If you’re so riled up about it that you choose to bring it here, again, post. a.screenshot. Post us a link. Do something besides talk out of both sides of your mouth. If you hate him so much, stop supporting him by watching his videos. Because by showing you watch them you have lost credibility with me to believe the things you say. If these things are happening and can be so easily proven, why won’t you? If those things are happening yet you still watch his videos which pay him, you are a hypocrite. 1000% right. well said! and i'm a member of the FB group too. i've never seen any disparaging comments. if anything, it is a very supportive and informative group of fans.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 18:40:06 GMT
I saw a comment on his Facebook from a nurse who is working 18 hour shifts pleading for full replays and they were dismissive of her. He makes his choices and we then make ours not to support him. Let’s see that post. I want to see where Tim was “dismissive” of this person. *crickets*
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Post by mom on Mar 18, 2021 18:42:01 GMT
from what i understand, the OP is not a fan of TH by a mile. i don't know why but maybe someone can enlighten me.
the way i see it, businesses have been bellying up right and left during this pandemic and people are doing what they can to keep their companies afloat. that includes seemingly unimportant commerce such as the craft industry. but hey, it's still a business and people associated with it still have a mortgage or rent to pay and mouths to feed. so i understand the selling selling selling that TH does in those free demos. i wouldn't expect less. he's gotta eat too and he's definitely good at it. i haven't purchased anything from his new line but i do like a few pieces. on another note, crafting has been a great distraction from the pandemic for many people. being cooped in the house has given many people the time to work on stuff they've been putting off or haven't had the time for. the way i see it, if i'm inside crafting, that means i'm not outside catching the virus or passing it on to others. TH doing demos is no different than the thousands of other artisans sharing their craft with others. the fact that he makes money from it doesn't bother me. he has to be compensated for that information and product he shares with us. it's fine if OP doesn't like TH. maybe she even hates him. but we all have crafters we don't like. i have never been into any of the celeb SBers. not back then and not now. TH is closer to my style and aesthetic so i enjoy his demos. best of all they are free and available on replay. The OP pops in to stir shit with Tim Holtz and then never backs up what she claims.
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Post by craftgranny on Mar 18, 2021 19:22:46 GMT
Let's discuss that it is Jenny Marples aka Buttons- known UK troll in the craft world. Hides behind fake accounts manufactures fake emails, screenshots and trolls TH, Mario Rossi and Zoe Hillman. Pathetic that she is out with Covid and this is the first thing that she does when she comes back. Blah, Blah, blah
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msliz
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Post by msliz on Mar 18, 2021 21:26:53 GMT
Let's discuss that it is Jenny Marples aka Buttons- known UK troll in the craft world. I don't know whether that's true or not, not that it even matters to me who she is (she needs to bring the receipts if she wants to make accusations) but I will say that your Jenny Marples is a very talented papercrafter. Take a look at her blog: Pushing the Right Buttons.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Mar 18, 2021 21:44:48 GMT
Heathcare -that right there is something not fair and worthy of stomping your feet about. I saw a comment on his Facebook from a nurse who is working 18 hour shifts pleading for full replays and they were dismissive of her. He makes his choices and we then make ours not to support him. While it would be NICE of Tim to cater to every single customer, he has to do what is best for getting to a larger number of his customers. It's not a personal slight if a company cannot appease a single customer's request for a time change...it is a business decision. He also cannot reply to every single person that reaches out to him because his brand is not a small one. This would be like getting mad at a celebrity because you commented on their social media account and they didn't take the time to reply to you. He has to manage his time...being a fan doesn't entitle you to a response or special treatment.
He doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass just because people like you are going to gossip about him as if he owes anyone anything. Honestly...I'm beginning to understand his snark if there are large sums of people who get pissy just because they didn't get a personal reply after having purchased something with his name on it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 3:17:51 GMT
I saw a comment on his Facebook from a nurse who is working 18 hour shifts pleading for full replays and they were dismissive of her. He makes his choices and we then make ours not to support him. While it would be NICE of Tim to cater to every single customer, he has to do what is best for getting to a larger number of his customers. It's not a personal slight if a company cannot appease a single customer's request for a time change...it is a business decision. He also cannot reply to every single person that reaches out to him because his brand is not a small one. This would be like getting mad at a celebrity because you commented on their social media account and they didn't take the time to reply to you. He has to manage his time...being a fan doesn't entitle you to a response or special treatment.
He doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass just because people like you are going to gossip about him as if he owes anyone anything. Honestly...I'm beginning to understand his snark if there are large sums of people who get pissy just because they didn't get a personal reply after having purchased something with his name on it.
I think you might be misunderstanding. I didn't take it that the nurse wants him to change his time, just to include the Q&A in the replay videos - for people who can't make the "lives" for timezone, work or other issues.
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 19, 2021 3:23:01 GMT
Okay, I'll bite. I don't like live sessions. They annoy me. I'd rather go back and watch after it's done. I'm not sure I'd care if the Q&A was removed. I'm a simple scrapper/stamper. I usually glean some ideas but have no desire to do everything he demos.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Mar 19, 2021 3:23:43 GMT
While it would be NICE of Tim to cater to every single customer, he has to do what is best for getting to a larger number of his customers. It's not a personal slight if a company cannot appease a single customer's request for a time change...it is a business decision. He also cannot reply to every single person that reaches out to him because his brand is not a small one. This would be like getting mad at a celebrity because you commented on their social media account and they didn't take the time to reply to you. He has to manage his time...being a fan doesn't entitle you to a response or special treatment.
He doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass just because people like you are going to gossip about him as if he owes anyone anything. Honestly...I'm beginning to understand his snark if there are large sums of people who get pissy just because they didn't get a personal reply after having purchased something with his name on it.
I think you might be misunderstanding. I didn't take it that the nurse wants him to change his time, just to include the Q&A in the replay videos - for people who can't make the "lives" for timezone, work or other issues. I wasn't quoting you?
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Post by karinec on Mar 19, 2021 3:26:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 3:30:07 GMT
I think you might be misunderstanding. I didn't take it that the nurse wants him to change his time, just to include the Q&A in the replay videos - for people who can't make the "lives" for timezone, work or other issues. I wasn't quoting you? No, you weren't. But I was responding to your comment so I quoted you.
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Post by joblackford on Mar 19, 2021 3:56:37 GMT
I guess I just don't care. 🤷 Are the questions usually something that is must see YouTube? I probably wouldn't catch the whole thing anyway since they are so long. Two and a half hours WITHOUT the Q&A... I just can't...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 4:30:27 GMT
I guess I just don't care. 🤷 Are the questions usually something that is must see YouTube? I probably wouldn't catch the whole thing anyway since they are so long. Two and a half hours WITHOUT the Q&A... I just can't... They're kind of watchable for me when I'm crafting and/or if I put Tim on 1.5 speed That's the nice thing about YT, lots of options for skipping around (with the little picture showing what's happening in that part of the timeline), and the ability to play on FAST.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Mar 19, 2021 5:13:42 GMT
Two and a half hours WITHOUT the Q&A... I just can't... They're kind of watchable for me when I'm crafting and/or if I put Tim on 1.5 speed That's the nice thing about YT, lots of options for skipping around (with the little picture showing what's happening in that part of the timeline), and the ability to play on FAST. Real time is almost impossible unless I am watching live. There is a girl in the UK that I follow and I swear 1.5x for her vids is how I normally talk. Tried watching her on the tv where I can't increase the speed and it was like listening in slo-mo. It was rough. Once you speed up, it is hard to go back.
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Post by msliz on Mar 19, 2021 5:43:37 GMT
They're kind of watchable for me when I'm crafting and/or if I put Tim on 1.5 speed That's the nice thing about YT, lots of options for skipping around (with the little picture showing what's happening in that part of the timeline), and the ability to play on FAST. Real time is almost impossible unless I am watching live. There is a girl in the UK that I follow and I swear 1.5x for her vids is how I normally talk. Tried watching her on the tv where I can't increase the speed and it was like listening in slo-mo. It was rough. Once you speed up, it is hard to go back. When my best friend moved from New England to the midwest, everyone she met told her to slow down, she talked too fast. Meanwhile she had to put so much effort into being patient while they took forever to say anything. It made her rage silently.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 12:00:51 GMT
I heard Tim is releasing new products. He’s trying to run a business & make a profit off of people that enjoy crafting! AND get this...he has a YouTube channel that provides hours of FREE content and instruction to crafters! The nerve of him! *insert sarcasm here* LOLZ he certainly makes a profit off gullible women. He’s so kind and generous for showing us what to buy. He makes no money for the FREE content 🤔 He uses the time to berate and humiliate crafters and he has a team of administrators deleting comments that speak out in opposition. Plus he has his cult like fans who live and die by his words. 🙄 You sound pretty jealous of him. LOLZ
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