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Post by BSideCrafter on Mar 20, 2021 21:12:14 GMT
If I watch a Tim video I just watch a demo and then turn off the video. I don't need a Q&A. I don't care. I love my Distress Oxides and use them for everything, but Tim's style isn't my style.
I watch a lot of steamers online and do some streaming myself. It's common for things to be cut from a reupload to reward those that attend their streams. Yes it's hard for people to attend every stream, but how much are you really going to learn from a Q&A from Tim that isn't already out there?
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Post by BSideCrafter on Mar 20, 2021 21:23:51 GMT
Tim “Mario is having so much fun reading the comments. I’ve never seen him so happy!” WOW!!! Such a great guy. He’s a coward. Good luck Zoe Hillman. LOLZ It is fun to read comments during a live. As a streamer even the troll comments can be funny. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy. You're just looking to create drama from a comment. I still haven't seen the proof of the Facebook post. |
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Post by lynn0117 on Mar 21, 2021 0:21:34 GMT
I didn’t watch the live because I’m clearly not as obsessed with Tim as buttons is but I did buy some of his ink from scrapbook dot com because I feel like this must be some incredible ink if it makes you a cult member. Like, damn. I need that ink in my life, you know?
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Post by quinmm14 on Mar 21, 2021 15:26:48 GMT
If some random person made the post and ‘they’ ( the group? ) have deleted it, then how are they ‘allowing’ it? They allowed it for 5 days!!! They approved it!!!! They let it sit there for 5 days!!! It gets posted here and on Ink Road Stamps Instagram page and suddenly it gets deleted. I could be making it up and the other lady who reported it, but the group and admin could be racist. One is bad. The other is worse. Are you okay with the possibility there is racism and you all turn the other cheek? DO BETTER!!!! There are so many things wrong with your words that I've bolded. You're making me a little worried for you. Nobody should get this rabid (for lack of a better word) over crafting. And no, nobody is okay with the possibility of racism ever. But we also don't go around accusing one of racist behavior if there isn't proof positive to the fact. You've been asked repeatedly to show proof, you ignore that but then come here and *yell* at us. That's not okay. |
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Post by mom on Mar 21, 2021 20:08:46 GMT
Honestly, I am at the point I hope Tim defends himself legally against people who are intentionally trying to sabotage his business. And if not legally, I wonder what can be done civilly. This isn’t ok what Buttons is doing. It’s to the point of harassment.
I also have to wonder what the companies that Buttons designs for, think of this.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Mar 21, 2021 23:10:53 GMT
Honestly, I am at the point I hope Tim defends himself legally against people who are intentionally trying to sabotage his business. And if not legally, I wonder what can be done civilly. This isn’t ok what Buttons is doing. It’s to the point of harassment. I also have to wonder what the companies that Buttons designs for, think of this. Having an opinion is one thing, but outright accusing someone of racism is libelous. Especially since buttons hasn't really demonstrated any evidence ('i can't without giving my identity away') to support her assertion. |
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 22, 2021 1:11:28 GMT
Lara was arrested for theft at least once (it may have been twice) around the time she was trying to get her stamp company up and running. Wow! I'd like to know more information about this! I am disgusted by how she called out a customer on her Instagram page. It's bad business. The other posts about fighting racism, just doesn't really ring true to me. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 22, 2021 4:15:52 GMT
LOLZ he certainly makes a profit off gullible women. He’s so kind and generous for showing us what to buy. He makes no money for the FREE content 🤔 He uses the time to berate and humiliate crafters and he has a team of administrators deleting comments that speak out in opposition. Plus he has his cult like fans who live and die by his words. 🙄 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 9:38:02 GMT
Honestly, I am at the point I hope Tim defends himself legally against people who are intentionally trying to sabotage his business. And if not legally, I wonder what can be done civilly. This isn’t ok what Buttons is doing. It’s to the point of harassment. I also have to wonder what the companies that Buttons designs for, think of this. I understand why you think what I’m doing isn’t ok. Ask yourself if you would feel the same way if all I have said is true? It’s so easy to blame the victims and brush away claims as trolling because they are yet unproven. I think the craft community needs to be held accountable for their actions and inactions. Tim has no legal position to defend because he knows that the claims are true! Ask yourself why every one who leaves his team has negative things to say about him. Well known crafters such as Annette Green who designs for Graphic 45 and Shelly Hickox who was an incredible crafter who quit crafting because of Tim. Jess Madaglia and Jennalee Anderson were makers for the brand and all of their makes were deleted from his website when they raised racism concerns. HE PUNISHES PEOPLE! HE EDITS!! HE LIES! |
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Post by mom on Mar 22, 2021 11:38:13 GMT
Honestly, I am at the point I hope Tim defends himself legally against people who are intentionally trying to sabotage his business. And if not legally, I wonder what can be done civilly. This isn’t ok what Buttons is doing. It’s to the point of harassment. I also have to wonder what the companies that Buttons designs for, think of this. I understand why you think what I’m doing isn’t ok. Ask yourself if you would feel the same way if all I have said is true? It’s so easy to blame the victims and brush away claims as trolling because they are yet unproven. I think the craft community needs to be held accountable for their actions and inactions. Tim has no legal position to defend because he knows that the claims are true! Ask yourself why every one who leaves his team has negative things to say about him. Well known crafters such as Annette Green who designs for Graphic 45 and Shelly Hickox who was an incredible crafter who quit crafting because of Tim. Jess Madaglia and Jennalee Anderson were makers for the brand and all of their makes were deleted from his website when they raised racism concerns. HE PUNISHES PEOPLE! HE EDITS!! HE LIES! Again, when you have solid proof then we can discuss it. But you don’t have proof of anything. All you are doing now is speculation. You don’t know why anyone’s names were deleted. And the fact is, your friend Lara has made such a fool of herself lying about Tim that it makes taking anything anyone says about him hard to believe as factual. The whole ‘boy who cried wolf’ thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 15:05:51 GMT
Lara was arrested for theft at least once (it may have been twice) around the time she was trying to get her stamp company up and running. Wow! I'd like to know more information about this! I am disgusted by how she called out a customer on her Instagram page. It's bad business. The other posts about fighting racism, just doesn't really ring true to me. Page 8 scroll down... 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/109540/tim-holtz-road-lara-drama?page=8 |
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Post by lynn0117 on Mar 23, 2021 0:31:32 GMT
Honestly, I am at the point I hope Tim defends himself legally against people who are intentionally trying to sabotage his business. And if not legally, I wonder what can be done civilly. This isn’t ok what Buttons is doing. It’s to the point of harassment. I also have to wonder what the companies that Buttons designs for, think of this. I understand why you think what I’m doing isn’t ok. Ask yourself if you would feel the same way if all I have said is true? It’s so easy to blame the victims and brush away claims as trolling because they are yet unproven. I think the craft community needs to be held accountable for their actions and inactions. Tim has no legal position to defend because he knows that the claims are true! Ask yourself why every one who leaves his team has negative things to say about him. Well known crafters such as Annette Green who designs for Graphic 45 and Shelly Hickox who was an incredible crafter who quit crafting because of Tim. Jess Madaglia and Jennalee Anderson were makers for the brand and all of their makes were deleted from his website when they raised racism concerns. HE PUNISHES PEOPLE! HE EDITS!! HE LIES! If what you said is true, you would have proof. You said there was a post that was left up for 5 days but now it’s gone. You didn’t screenshot it? You read it and monitored it for 5 days without screenshotting it? Why not? If I see something I want to remember, I take a screenshot. I’m in no way team Tim, my cult ink hasn’t arrived yet so I may change my mind when it does, but it seems like you would be able to prove SOMETHING that you’ve alleged. If you could prove just one thing we would all be more likely to take you seriously. |
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Post by myboysnme on Mar 23, 2021 15:37:42 GMT
I do love a good drama thread but even after 4 pages I have no idea what's going on. Someone doesnt like Tim Holtz, some do or don't care. I'm lost
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Post by jediannie on Mar 23, 2021 17:03:10 GMT
I do love a good drama thread but even after 4 pages I have no idea what's going on. Someone doesnt like Tim Holtz, some do or don't care. I'm lost Same, I got so bored trying to keep up I stopped. I need to stop opening the thread. LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:04:59 GMT
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Post by slicksister on Mar 24, 2021 21:14:51 GMT
Tim can't remove her. It's her group not Tim's. He's not an admin therefore has no control over what is posted on that page. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:20:24 GMT
Tim can't remove her. It's her group not Tim's. He's not an admin therefore has no control over what is posted on that page. She is using his brand name, which is his intellectual property, therefore he could insist she steps down or closes the group. Mario Rossi is an admin and can easily remove her. Doing nothing is not acceptable!! Tim needs to take action immediately!! |
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Post by mom on Mar 24, 2021 21:25:09 GMT
All this says is you emailed Zoe. Thats not proof of racism. Am I missing something? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:31:44 GMT
All this says is you emailed Zoe. Thats not proof of racism. Am I missing something? Did you see her reply? I tried to upload the screenshot to Flickr but perhaps it didn’t upload? |
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Post by mom on Mar 24, 2021 22:19:34 GMT
All this says is you emailed Zoe. Thats not proof of racism. Am I missing something? Did you see her reply? I tried to upload the screenshot to Flickr but perhaps it didn’t upload? I see her reply. Again, not racism. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 22:42:03 GMT
Did you see her reply? I tried to upload the screenshot to Flickr but perhaps it didn’t upload? I see her reply. Again, not racism. Do you think her response is acceptable? 😲 |
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Post by JustTricia on Mar 24, 2021 22:56:17 GMT
Oh.my.God. THAT’S the post you have been going on and on about?!?! You have got to be freaking kidding me. 🙄 That post is talking about the color black on a card. A million people think the color black is too dark and not a pretty color by itself. That does not in any way or shape mean that they think POC are not beautiful. A color on the spectrum and a person’s skin color are two completely different things. The fact that you read into that a racist thought says way more about you than it does about anything else. Unbelievable. |
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Post by JustTricia on Mar 24, 2021 22:58:30 GMT
I see her reply. Again, not racism. Do you think her response is acceptable? 😲 To answer this question, yes. I think her response to your asinine request is acceptable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 23:07:44 GMT
Oh.my.God. THAT’S the post you have been going on and on about?!?! You have got to be freaking kidding me. 🙄 That post is talking about the color black on a card. A million people think the color black is too dark and not a pretty color by itself. That does not in any way or shape mean that they think POC are not beautiful. A color on the spectrum and a person’s skin color are two completely different things. The fact that you read into that a racist thought says way more about you than it does about anything else. Unbelievable. Then why did they delete it? 🤔 |
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Post by JustTricia on Mar 24, 2021 23:16:00 GMT
Oh.my.God. THAT’S the post you have been going on and on about?!?! You have got to be freaking kidding me. 🙄 That post is talking about the color black on a card. A million people think the color black is too dark and not a pretty color by itself. That does not in any way or shape mean that they think POC are not beautiful. A color on the spectrum and a person’s skin color are two completely different things. The fact that you read into that a racist thought says way more about you than it does about anything else. Unbelievable. Then why did they delete it? 🤔 You have proof the group deleted it and not the poster? Because Lara swore up and down and spoke badly about TH all over the internet for removing a post that the original poster told her multiple times she took down herself. |
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Post by JustTricia on Mar 24, 2021 23:20:11 GMT
Can someone post a screenshot of the screenshot post here, please? When I clicked it the first time I saw it fine, but now it’s making me log in and I have no idea what email I used to sign up. Thanks!
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Post by amp on Mar 24, 2021 23:27:09 GMT
Can someone post a screenshot of the screenshot post here, please? When I clicked it the first time I saw it fine, but now it’s making me log in and I have no idea what email I used to sign up. Thanks! I just logged in to Flickr and it says I don't have permission to see it... |
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Post by JustTricia on Mar 24, 2021 23:33:58 GMT
Can someone post a screenshot of the screenshot post here, please? When I clicked it the first time I saw it fine, but now it’s making me log in and I have no idea what email I used to sign up. Thanks! I just logged in to Flickr and it says I don't have permission to see it... Hmm. Strange. 🙄 |
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Post by hop2 on Mar 24, 2021 23:42:33 GMT
Yeah, I can’t see it either signed in or not.
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