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Post by trixiecat on Apr 19, 2021 0:50:35 GMT
I apologize if this has been discussed before. One person in our household refuses to be vaccinated. The other 3 will have their 2nd shot shortly. Do we take the attitude...who cares because we are safe and if this person chooses otherwise, the risk is on them? I guess the only other option is to say they can't live with us. This is our adult son. And I have no idea why he says he doesn't want vaccinated other than the fact he doesn't like shots.
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Post by peabay on Apr 19, 2021 0:53:52 GMT
His phobia is directing this. You need to address that and try to work with him on it. Is he going to work/school and seeing people outside the house? He's risking so much.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 19, 2021 0:53:56 GMT
No one likes shots.
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Post by peabay on Apr 19, 2021 0:54:57 GMT
While that is true, I have a kid who is truly phobic. But her fear of Covid outweighed her fear of needles, thankfully.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 0:56:57 GMT
I am pro vaccine but I see valid reasons why young adults aren't vaccinating.
I personally wouldn't kick a kid out because they don't want to get the vaccine. But that's just me.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 19, 2021 1:02:06 GMT
I have a phobia, too, so I get it. (I have dental work done with laughing gas rather than shots, for example.) But sometimes you don’t have a choice, and this, for me, would be one. And I think it would be a big enough deal that my adult child would need to decide if they felt strongly enough about this to forgo living at home... like, maybe put their actual money where their mouth is.
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Post by peabay on Apr 19, 2021 1:08:28 GMT
I have a phobia, too, so I get it. (I have dental work done with laughing gas rather than shots, for example.) But sometimes you don’t have a choice, and this, for me, would be one. And I think it would be a big enough deal that my adult child would need to decide if they felt strongly enough about this to forgo living at home... like, maybe put their actual money where their mouth is. ITA. It would be an issue in our house, for sure.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 19, 2021 1:11:26 GMT
Not an issue here at all.
Their body, their choice. If I want a vaccine because I believe the vaccine works, someone else not being vaccinated isn’t a danger to me.
He’s an adult. The fact that he lives under my roof doesn’t mean he gives up all autonomy and I get to make life choices for him.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 19, 2021 1:27:20 GMT
Employers can require their employees to get the shot, so I can certainly require people living in my house to do it. He’s an adult. Living with his parents isn’t a right, it’s a privilege. And, in my house, at least, privileges come with responsibilities. They have to help around the house, they have to be respectful, and they can’t exhibit behavior that is harmful to others in the house. Just like I wouldn’t let them smoke in my home, because of the potential health risks to the rest of us. myshelly, you seem ignorant on how this vaccine works.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 19, 2021 1:30:01 GMT
Are there high risk people in the house? Are his habits changing now that people are being vaccinated?
If he's doing the same thing he has been all along, it seems weird to kick him out now.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 19, 2021 1:30:46 GMT
Vaccination would be a requirement to continue living in my home.
Sometimes you have to pull up your big boy pants and do things you dont want to do. This is a massive public health issue and it is not the time to be selfish.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 19, 2021 1:32:46 GMT
Employers can require their employees to get the shot, so I can certainly require people living in my house to do it. He’s an adult. Living with his parents isn’t a right, it’s a privilege. And, in my house, at least, privileges come with responsibilities. They have to help around the house, they have to be respectful, and they can’t exhibit behavior that is harmful to others in the house. Just like I wouldn’t let them smoke in my home, because of the potential health risks to the rest of us. myshelly, you seem ignorant on how this vaccine works. The CDC says: Indoor visits between fully vaccinated people and unvaccinated people who do not wear masks or physically distance from one another are likely low risk for the vaccinated people. www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.htmlSeems to apply directly to this situations. If you’re vaccinated, unvaccinated people are extremely low risk to you. Not ignorant, just think it’s funny people feel the need to guilt and pressure everyone else to bend to their will.
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Post by carhoch on Apr 19, 2021 1:40:27 GMT
That would be a big problem for me , we are not the my house my rule type ,it’s our house . But my kids would not be allowed to jeopardize the health of my husband and me because he is scared of a little needle .
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Post by garcia5050 on Apr 19, 2021 1:46:28 GMT
Employers can require their employees to get the shot, so I can certainly require people living in my house to do it. He’s an adult. Living with his parents isn’t a right, it’s a privilege. And, in my house, at least, privileges come with responsibilities. They have to help around the house, they have to be respectful, and they can’t exhibit behavior that is harmful to others in the house. Just like I wouldn’t let them smoke in my home, because of the potential health risks to the rest of us. myshelly, you seem ignorant on how this vaccine works. . This. 100%. I made my son’s appointment and gave him the info. I didn’t ask if he wanted to. Literally, zero discussion.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 19, 2021 1:51:37 GMT
The CDC says: Indoor visits between fully vaccinated people and unvaccinated people who do not wear masks or physically distance from one another are likely low risk for the vaccinated people. www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.htmlSeems to apply directly to this situations. If you’re vaccinated, unvaccinated people are extremely low risk to you. Not ignorant, just think it’s funny people feel the need to guilt and pressure everyone else to bend to their will. VISITS. I would be happy to visit with my unvaccinated adult child after they moved their freeloading, selfish ass out. That’s different than living with them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 1:52:13 GMT
My oldest has been dragging his feet. He has a Dr appt this week so I'm hoping he'll get shamed there since his PCP passed away from covid back in December. I've been sending him links to get registered, bugging him, but I've noticed he'll listen to any adult but us these days. So fingers crossed he gets scolded and he actually registers. The rest of us are either fully vaccinated or will be by the end of the month - two months before I thought we would be!
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Post by CardBoxer on Apr 19, 2021 2:01:53 GMT
Not an issue here at all. Their body, their choice. If I want a vaccine because I believe the vaccine works, someone else not being vaccinated isn’t a danger to me. He’s an adult. The fact that he lives under my roof doesn’t mean he gives up all autonomy and I get to make life choices for him. If he gets Covid, will he care for himself since it’s his body? His decision could create an avoidable burden. In my house it would be best if he left, since even a cold has kicked off weeks or months of symptoms in me, and a hospitalization once. That aside, his not caring that he could be an asymptomatic carrier who could make others sick or die would make for a strained relationship. My almost 96-year-old mother-in-law got covid and it was a young, healthy, unvaccinated person who had to have given it to her - one of three people who spent time in her home. She recovered after a hospitalization and rehab in a nursing home. So my tolerance for those who just don’t want to is not high. I'm phobic too, so anxiety about side effects and the damn needle was sky high. So I met virtually with a hypnotherapist a few days beforehand to learn a new visualization or suggestion or beef up what I’ve done in the past. This is a tough one that no doubt many families are going through.
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Post by msliz on Apr 19, 2021 2:06:28 GMT
It would be a requirement for any young adult living in my home. They have no right to put me at increased risk now that a vaccine is available.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 2:16:37 GMT
It would be a requirement for any young adult living in my home. They have no right to put me at increased risk now that a vaccine is available. But they and you were a risk already. Unless no one left the house for work/school/life, then everyone was already a risk factor.
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Post by mikewozowski on Apr 19, 2021 2:28:28 GMT
my daughter is staying with us since her office is closed. she NEVER gets sick ... doesn't get the flu shot.
she didn't think she needed the vaccine. maybe she didn't. she was willing to rely on her "superior immune system" to take care of her. i made her a vaccine appointment and she went and got it.
maybe you can get your son to get the J&J vaccine. only one poke.
i am of the opinion that if someone lives in my house and i want all members of the house vaccinated, they can get vaccinated or find someplace else to live. don't like it ... sorry.
nobody likes shots, but sometimes you have to get them. i am sure he would get a shot if he had some kind of accident and needed a tetanus shot.
edited to add:
we have a cancer patient living in the house with us, so that also factors in.
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Post by Why on Apr 19, 2021 2:32:24 GMT
COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC As of April 13, 2021, more than 75 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 since December 14, 2020. During the same time, CDC received 5,814 reports of vaccine breakthrough infections from 43 U.S. states and territories. There have been 74 deaths.
I am not going to live with someone that refuses to get vaccinated now that it is available.
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Post by ellen on Apr 19, 2021 2:43:18 GMT
I made an appointment for my 18 year old daughter as soon as she could get it. Not too long ago she passed out after getting a couple shots at the doctor's office. So she is very leery of getting shots. I went in with her and held her hand when she requested it. Her dad did the same at her second one. As much as my kid hates getting shots she cares about her health and the health of those around here.
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Post by scrapmaven on Apr 19, 2021 2:46:43 GMT
It is a matter of safety here. I'm very high risk and my adult kids needed to get vaccinated in order to come home. I feel terrible that these choices had to revolve around my health, but that's the way it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 2:47:52 GMT
Not an issue here at all. Their body, their choice. If I want a vaccine because I believe the vaccine works, someone else not being vaccinated isn’t a danger to me. He’s an adult. The fact that he lives under my roof doesn’t mean he gives up all autonomy and I get to make life choices for him. and yet you wouldn't have that same attitude towards him smoking a crack pipe in your kitchen would you? or taking your car out to the store to get more beers because he's already finished his first case? Remove the legality issues as I'm sure that will be your argument. It's the behaviour that is causing risk to someone else and they do have a say on that.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Apr 19, 2021 2:51:02 GMT
For me it depends on the make up of the household. If someone lives there and is at high risk then anyone staying under that roof should be vaccinated. My current living situation: nobody at high risk, so I wouldn't mandate anyone living here to get it if they didn't want it. I let my kids decide if they want it. So far one is and one isn't. Neither live with me though so I don't have to make a decision one way or another. Now if I were caring for a family member who was at high risk, like earlier stated, anyone else joining the household would have to have it.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 19, 2021 3:30:20 GMT
It would be a requirement for any young adult living in my home. They have no right to put me at increased risk now that a vaccine is available. But they and you were a risk already. Unless no one left the house for work/school/life, then everyone was already a risk factor. But that can risk can now be mitigated. It wasn’t an option before.
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Post by tracylynn on Apr 19, 2021 3:31:00 GMT
My house, my rules. No vaccine, find a new place to live.
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Post by nlwilkins on Apr 19, 2021 3:41:09 GMT
Just how many needles will he face if he gets COVID?
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Post by paget on Apr 19, 2021 3:45:29 GMT
My Dh isn’t going to get vaccinated. I plan to let him continue to live here. I understand his concerns- I wasn’t sure I was going to do it either, or at least I thought I might wait longer, but I changed my mind.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 19, 2021 3:59:57 GMT
My Dh isn’t going to get vaccinated. I plan to let him continue to live here. I understand his concerns- I wasn’t sure I was going to do it either, or at least I thought I might wait longer, but I changed my mind. Also different, because he, presumably, contributes monetarily to the household.
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