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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 19, 2021 23:00:10 GMT
Not an issue here at all. Their body, their choice. If I want a vaccine because I believe the vaccine works, someone else not being vaccinated isn’t a danger to me. He’s an adult. The fact that he lives under my roof doesn’t mean he gives up all autonomy and I get to make life choices for him. Same in my house. I’m the only one of 4 that has talent he vaccine. Doesn’t bother me at all. Just like an annual flu shot. - COVID-19 is not the flu. Not even close. Over three million people worldwide have died this year from COVID-19, many more impacted with long term health complications. That is not the flu. Stop making that comparison, because it's truly choosing ignorance. - Herd immunity matters in a global pandemic, and people choose not to get the shot, that impacts the rest of the population. - The vaccine works toward herd immunity only if the HERD gets the vaccine; without a critical mass (scientists say over 80%), the opportunity for variants and mutations is greater, putting us all right back where we started. "Doesn't bother me at all." It bothers lots of us who have lost friends and family members.
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Post by kelly8875 on Apr 19, 2021 23:06:19 GMT
Same in my house. I’m the only one of 4 that has talent he vaccine. Doesn’t bother me at all. Just like an annual flu shot. - COVID-19 is not the flu. Not even close. Over three million people worldwide have died this year from COVID-19, many more impacted with long term health complications. That is not the flu. Stop making that comparison, because it's truly choosing ignorance. - Herd immunity matters in a global pandemic, and people choose not to get the shot, that impacts the rest of the population. - The vaccine works toward herd immunity only if the HERD gets the vaccine; without a critical mass (scientists say over 80%), the opportunity for variants and mutations is greater, putting us all right back where we started. "Doesn't bother me at all." It bothers lots of us who have lost friends and family members. I did not say COVID is like the flu. I compared getting the vaccine being optional like the flu shot is. I cannot make adults get the COVID vaccine, just like I can’t make adults get the flu vaccine. My belief is to get the vaccine, and so I did.
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Post by peabay on Apr 19, 2021 23:14:36 GMT
I draw a hard line on a potentially fatal disease that I have seen change my happy, healthy 18 year old into a depressive, borderline suicidal, brain fogged mess. Everyone is at risk. Covid doesn’t just affect the old, sick or overweight. How devastating. I hated reading this. I feel like I know her - being one of the first immediately recognizable profile pics 15 years ago when I started posting, and her being the ago of my daughter - your posts about her always stuck out to me over the years (same with other peas with girls my daughter’s age - not in a creepy stalker way). I am so sorry you’re both going through this. It makes my heart ache. Thank you so much. She's actually improving daily. She had the vaccine about 1 1/2 weeks ago and at about day 5 we could see the old her coming out. By yesterday, she was able to even reflect on how she felt prior to the vaccine and say how much better she felt. The very dark depressive feelings have gone; her GI stuff hasn't cleared up completely; brain fog is much better. I'm sure people think I'm being a total bitch about getting a vaccine but I hope they recognize I'm coming from a place where I don't want anyone else to have to go.
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Post by maryland on Apr 19, 2021 23:35:30 GMT
My 18 yr. old daughter is the same. She is embarrassed to say she has had immediate reactions with her past 2 vaccines. She thought it made her look like she wasn't tough enough for a little shot. So I told her she needed to tell them because with her being 18, they won't talk to me. I signed up for my shot with the local health department and we were surprised to find them giving J&J that day. There was a young lady sitting near me in the waiting area afterwards who has that reaction. She couldn't believe her luck that she got there and it was just the single dose. Like, tears in her eyes happy. That's so good that she was able to get J&J and just had one dose! What a relief! We really wanted the Johnson and Johnson for my 18 yr. old and the day we were eligible to sign up was the day they "paused" it. We needed to get her dose as soon as possible just in case she needs it for summer college orientation. So we were afraid to wait in case Johnson and Johnson wasn't being given out for a while.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 20, 2021 1:54:42 GMT
This is about me-and-mine, not the OP-and-hers: I would feel a deep shame if my adult children - or my husband - chose not to get the Covid vaccine for any reason other than some sort of medical incompatibility.
And they would feel the same about me.
Adults? Autonomy? Freedom? Technically, sure. Legally, sure. Morally, nope.
(Does this make me sound “cold?” Not sure. Don’t care. Shame trumps cold.)
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Post by gizzy on Apr 20, 2021 2:13:29 GMT
Everyone in my family is already vaccinated or in the process. An aunt has said she won't get it, that she thinks she's already had it. I'm worried that she could carry it to one of us. If she lived with us, she would either be getting it or moving out.
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Post by Jennifer C on Apr 20, 2021 2:29:42 GMT
My Mom and Dad have been vaccinated and 3 out of 4 are complete in my family. My ds16 had his first shot of the Pfizer and we are a week away from his 2nd dose.
I didn't give anyone a choice. Just made the appointments and off we went. My Dad lives with me and gave a little pushback but he went to his appointment with no problems.
Dh has an Aunt that refuses just because she believes it will reset her DNA. She gets her info from her daughter. They are outside of our bubble and have asked that we take our kids to see them sometimes. I have told her no, absolutely no, even if we are vaccinated, no. She just doesn't understand why no one other than her daughter is visiting her.
Jennifer
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Post by chlerbie on Apr 20, 2021 2:43:00 GMT
I was really worried that I was going to be there with my DH. Luckily, he decided to get it in the end and we were both vaccinated on Friday. Things would have been very tense in the house if he had not.
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Post by pyccku on Apr 20, 2021 2:44:50 GMT
My Mom and Dad have been vaccinated and 3 out of 4 are complete in my family. My ds16 had his first shot of the Pfizer and we are a week away from his 2nd dose. I didn't give anyone a choice. Just made the appointments and off we went. My Dad lives with me and gave a little pushback but he went to his appointment with no problems. Dh has an Aunt that refuses just because she believes it will reset her DNA. She gets her info from her daughter. They are outside of our bubble and have asked that we take our kids to see them sometimes. I have told her no, absolutely no, even if we are vaccinated, no. She just doesn't understand why no one other than her daughter is visiting her. Jennifer Why is she assuming that’s a bad thing? Maybe with new dna she will be smarter/more attractive/ healthier than with the old! Silver linings, people.
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 20, 2021 2:54:59 GMT
It would be a huge shocker if anyone in my family refused to get the vaccine. It’s not just about protecting our immediate family, it’s about protecting our community and society. I would seriously re-evaluate my relationship with that person.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 20, 2021 16:50:34 GMT
Anyway, I've been wondering if appealing to people's $$$ might have some effect, when appealing to other people's health and safety isn't. We aren't going to have a grasp on the long term situation for years, so I can see how in the short term the details can't compete with death and hospitalization stats. I expect, though, that in the aftermath COVID will prove to be expensive for a not-insignificant portion of the survivors, especially younger people, with implications for the continual health care cost debate in the future. I fear this is going to be a big problem in the future with regards to health insurance. How many people are going to find themselves unable to get cover, or with big gaps in their cover, due to pre-existing illness clauses? I was surprised by my DH. I always intended to get the vaccine, as I have a couple of medical conditions that put me at high risk of a serious outcome if I were to contract Covid. Dh does not, as is generally pretty blasé about getting regular shots - ie: I always get a flu shot, he will get one only if his work runs a session, and his PA books him in - but he is really getting antsy about getting this one, especially now I've had my first shot, and he isn't yet eligible. It will likely be a problem, not with getting or having coverage, but with premiums and affordability of said insurance - which is already astronomical for a lot of people. 😕 www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/vaccine-refusal-hesitancy-economic-costs/618528/?surface=meter_limit_reached&article_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fpolitics%2Farchive%2F2021%2F04%2Fvaccine-refusal-hesitancy-economic-costs%2F618528%2F
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Post by maryland on Apr 20, 2021 16:57:38 GMT
My Mom and Dad have been vaccinated and 3 out of 4 are complete in my family. My ds16 had his first shot of the Pfizer and we are a week away from his 2nd dose. I didn't give anyone a choice. Just made the appointments and off we went. My Dad lives with me and gave a little pushback but he went to his appointment with no problems. Dh has an Aunt that refuses just because she believes it will reset her DNA. She gets her info from her daughter. They are outside of our bubble and have asked that we take our kids to see them sometimes. I have told her no, absolutely no, even if we are vaccinated, no. She just doesn't understand why no one other than her daughter is visiting her. Jennifer My husband's 95 yr. old great aunt is not getting vaccinated because her grandson said he wasn't (he doesn't trust it). This aunt is so sharp and active that hope she gets it soon. She lives alone but loves to be social. Her 98 yr. old sister, her 3 kids say they won't visit her until she gets vaccinated. (They all live 10 or more hours away_/.They are vaccinated, but are worried that they could possibly carry it and infect her or she could still infect them.
Hopefully she will change her mind soon! She loves company and that may be what motivates her.
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Post by tracylynn on Apr 20, 2021 17:15:57 GMT
How devastating. I hated reading this. I feel like I know her - being one of the first immediately recognizable profile pics 15 years ago when I started posting, and her being the ago of my daughter - your posts about her always stuck out to me over the years (same with other peas with girls my daughter’s age - not in a creepy stalker way). I am so sorry you’re both going through this. It makes my heart ache. Thank you so much. She's actually improving daily. She had the vaccine about 1 1/2 weeks ago and at about day 5 we could see the old her coming out. By yesterday, she was able to even reflect on how she felt prior to the vaccine and say how much better she felt. The very dark depressive feelings have gone; her GI stuff hasn't cleared up completely; brain fog is much better. I'm sure people think I'm being a total bitch about getting a vaccine but I hope they recognize I'm coming from a place where I don't want anyone else to have to go. This is such great news. I had been reading about the vaccine actually helping the symptoms of long Covid!! I hope she continues to improve. Everyone on my Dad's side of the family (grandpa, aunts/uncles, etc) were happy to get vaccinated except one Aunt/Uncle and Cousins. They sit on the other side politically as most of us. But once my Aunt was told they would not be allowed to see my Grandpa (her Dad) without it, their hands were forced. He lives in a care home with 6 other elderly people (in their 80's and 90's) and the home owner/lead care giver held her ground! I was glad to hear it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 17:48:08 GMT
My oldest has been dragging his feet. He has a Dr appt this week so I'm hoping he'll get shamed there since his PCP passed away from covid back in December. I've been sending him links to get registered, bugging him, but I've noticed he'll listen to any adult but us these days. So fingers crossed he gets scolded and he actually registers. The rest of us are either fully vaccinated or will be by the end of the month - two months before I thought we would be! Quoting myself to say, yes! The procrastinator listened to me when I said they're doing walk ins at the clinic where I got mine and there's no wait at the moment. He showed up right after I had left. Now to remind him to plan ahead for the second one. He's a very much "fly by the seat of his pants" kind of person and doesn't always plan ahead. He's getting better about it.
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