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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 22:03:54 GMT
I hope you get to see the photo op you're looking for and that it provides you some piece of mind regarding whatever you are so afraid of at the US/Mexico border. In general, I think addressing the things that threaten us is better done through actual policy changes but ymmv. I'll stick to the topic of the thread and not the bash fox news bs you diverted attention to. Small child ren being abandoned in the desert by the coyotes, toddlers being dropped over the wall. People now owing what? to the cartels and coyotes. They come in with wrist bands identifying which cartel/coyote/human trafficker they "belong" to? All those kids in cages that were being used as a political weapon? Guess what? there are still hundreds of kids in cages. Only now, they have built more of them and they are at capacity and overflowing. They hid them when they let representatives tour the new facilities in order to "be transparent", but it took a Democrat whistle blower to point out that they moved the kids and were hiding just how many kids were there. And still in "cages". Smuggling drugs such as Fentanyl is up 800% according to the Texas Department of Public Safety. If she wants to address the "root cause" she only needs to look at Biden's reversal of the remain in Mexico policy, Biden's suspension of the safe third country agreement that required them to apply for asylum in the first country they entered, Biden putting a moratorium on deportations, Biden lifting the emergency declaration. Her own tweet "Say it loud, say it clear, everyone is welcome here. #NoBanNoWall" Every single democrat candidate agreed to decriminalize coming across the border illegally and to hand out healthcare to those that come. So the people in office now, in essence said come here and we'll cover you. Now they scratch their head and play dumb as to what the "root cause" is? Kamala is playing dumb a lot these days. Event the president of Guatemala who she went to see to determine the "root cause" says it's Biden's policies. He said they started seeking asylum in record numbers on Jan 20.
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Post by sunshine on Jun 18, 2021 22:22:56 GMT
I know she's been to Guatemala, but she hasn't been to Europe. Shouldn't a trip to the border be at the top of her priority list as border czar? Well, don’t you think you’re clever? Really, you’re just displaying what an out-of-touch, insufferable idiot you are. What does Europe have to do with anything? You do know it’s not a country, right? And it’s Harris or the VP to you.
OMG you are absolutely right! WTF does Europe have to do with the southern border, and what kind of moron would even bring it up (Ill give you a hint--there's a reason the OP said that).
And the bolded--ummmmm, okay. LOL
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 18, 2021 22:37:03 GMT
I am genuinely trying to understand Europe being brought into this out of sheer curiosity. Like, can someone explain it to me in non-partisan terms? Is there some comparison to the border situation I'm not grasping?
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 18, 2021 22:49:28 GMT
I am genuinely trying to understand Europe being brought into this out of sheer curiosity. Like, can someone explain it to me in non-partisan terms? Is there some comparison to the border situation I'm not grasping? From CNN.,. The response came during an interview with NBC's Lester Holt that aired Tuesday in which Harris was pressed about the fact that she hasn't yet visited the US-Mexico border. "At some point, you know, we are going to the border," Harris said in the interview. "We've been to the border. So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. We've been to the border. We've been to the border." Holt responded: "You haven't been to the border." "I, and I haven't been to Europe. And I mean, I don't -- I don't understand the point that you're making," Harris said with a laugh. She added: "I'm not discounting the importance of the border." The vice president's team, for their part, were frustrated by what they perceive to be questioning driven by Republican attacks falsely painting her as the administration's border czar, rather than focused on the root causes of migration. As it became clear on Tuesday that her answers were distracting from her broader trip, Harris decided to change her tune -- acknowledging that she would eventually visit the border, without specifying when.”
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 22:52:04 GMT
I am genuinely trying to understand Europe being brought into this out of sheer curiosity. Like, can someone explain it to me in non-partisan terms? Is there some comparison to the border situation I'm not grasping? When NBC's Lester Holt asked Kamala why she hasn't been to the border yet, she tried to pass off that she had been to the border. When that didn't fly he said YOU haven't been. She tried to play dumb and said "I haven't been to Europe either. I don't understand the point." And laughed inappropriately.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 18, 2021 22:52:38 GMT
I am genuinely trying to understand Europe being brought into this out of sheer curiosity. Like, can someone explain it to me in non-partisan terms? Is there some comparison to the border situation I'm not grasping? From CNN.,. The response came during an interview with NBC's Lester Holt that aired Tuesday in which Harris was pressed about the fact that she hasn't yet visited the US-Mexico border. "At some point, you know, we are going to the border," Harris said in the interview. "We've been to the border. So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. We've been to the border. We've been to the border." Holt responded: "You haven't been to the border." "I, and I haven't been to Europe. And I mean, I don't -- I don't understand the point that you're making," Harris said with a laugh. She added: "I'm not discounting the importance of the border." The vice president's team, for their part, were frustrated by what they perceive to be questioning driven by Republican attacks falsely painting her as the administration's border czar, rather than focused on the root causes of migration. As it became clear on Tuesday that her answers were distracting from her broader trip, Harris decided to change her tune -- acknowledging that she would eventually visit the border, without specifying when.” Thanks! So, it's a nothingburger.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 18, 2021 22:58:57 GMT
Thank you to those of you who opted for a thoughtful response as to why Kamala Harris might not think a trip to the border is important. To those of you who just chose to denigrate me, well you never fail to perpetuate your stereotype. Whether you like my posting style or not, you choose whether and how to respond. If you choose to respond with insults and vulgarities, that's on you. Yes, I watch Fox News; they raise questions that we all should be asking at this point. Is there ever a time that you question what your political party is or is not doing right now? I think she should go to the border at least in support of the efforts that are being made to control the uncontrollable situation. It doesn't have to be a PR move. Women are great problem solvers; she might have an epiphany moment that could be helpful. Just saying "the border is closed; don't come" was the PR move. When Fox News asks the question, it is not an innocent question. They’ve decided that she’s an easier target than President Biden and are deliberately going after her. And if they keep repeating the same questions, viewers will believe that there’s a scandal. The question has been asked and answered, there’s no reason to keep repeating it.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 23:05:39 GMT
Thank you to those of you who opted for a thoughtful response as to why Kamala Harris might not think a trip to the border is important. To those of you who just chose to denigrate me, well you never fail to perpetuate your stereotype. Whether you like my posting style or not, you choose whether and how to respond. If you choose to respond with insults and vulgarities, that's on you. Yes, I watch Fox News; they raise questions that we all should be asking at this point. Is there ever a time that you question what your political party is or is not doing right now? I think she should go to the border at least in support of the efforts that are being made to control the uncontrollable situation. It doesn't have to be a PR move. Women are great problem solvers; she might have an epiphany moment that could be helpful. Just saying "the border is closed; don't come" was the PR move. When Fox News asks the question, it is not an innocent question. They’ve decided that she’s an easier target than President Biden and are deliberately going after her. And if they keep repeating the same questions, viewers will believe that there’s a scandal. The question has been asked and answered, there’s no reason to keep repeating it. They are asking her because she was put in charge of it. Answering with a misleading statement and then when called on that, answering with a flippant remark, then laughing while playing dumb, is not really answering the question.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 18, 2021 23:11:23 GMT
When Fox News asks the question, it is not an innocent question. They’ve decided that she’s an easier target than President Biden and are deliberately going after her. And if they keep repeating the same questions, viewers will believe that there’s a scandal. The question has been asked and answered, there’s no reason to keep repeating it. They are asking her because she was put in charge of it. Answering with a misleading statement and then when called on that, answering with a flippant remark, then laughing while playing dumb, is not really answering the question. She was asked to help work with Central American governments and agencies to address the root causes of migration to the US. Visiting the border may be part of that, but certainly not the exact scope of the work. Asking why she didn't visit the border isn't a meaningful question in that light.
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Post by sunshine on Jun 18, 2021 23:14:01 GMT
From CNN.,. The response came during an interview with NBC's Lester Holt that aired Tuesday in which Harris was pressed about the fact that she hasn't yet visited the US-Mexico border. "At some point, you know, we are going to the border," Harris said in the interview. "We've been to the border. So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. We've been to the border. We've been to the border." Holt responded: "You haven't been to the border." "I, and I haven't been to Europe. And I mean, I don't -- I don't understand the point that you're making," Harris said with a laugh. She added: "I'm not discounting the importance of the border." The vice president's team, for their part, were frustrated by what they perceive to be questioning driven by Republican attacks falsely painting her as the administration's border czar, rather than focused on the root causes of migration. As it became clear on Tuesday that her answers were distracting from her broader trip, Harris decided to change her tune -- acknowledging that she would eventually visit the border, without specifying when.” Thanks! So, it's a nothingburger. Right, except sideways comes in with her dumbass comments insulting the OP, and then goes on to brag she doesn't need the news to form her own opinions, lol. Clueless and uninformed that one is.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 18, 2021 23:17:22 GMT
When Fox News asks the question, it is not an innocent question. They’ve decided that she’s an easier target than President Biden and are deliberately going after her. And if they keep repeating the same questions, viewers will believe that there’s a scandal. The question has been asked and answered, there’s no reason to keep repeating it. They are asking her because she was put in charge of it. Answering with a misleading statement and then when called on that, answering with a flippant remark, then laughing while playing dumb, is not really answering the question. Nope. Not exactly.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 23:21:26 GMT
They are asking her because she was put in charge of it. Answering with a misleading statement and then when called on that, answering with a flippant remark, then laughing while playing dumb, is not really answering the question. She was asked to help work with Central American governments and agencies to address the root causes of migration to the US. Visiting the border may be part of that, but certainly not the exact scope of the work. Asking why she didn't visit the border isn't a meaningful question in that light. When the democrats who live with this crisis at the border are asking her to come and saying why she should come and how it would help, it's a meaningful question being asked by people on both sides.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 18, 2021 23:47:04 GMT
Why does Vice President Harris need to go to the border on someone else's timeline? Cut the outrage over nothing and focus on actual issues that need to be cleaned up from the prior administration. There are a lot of them and all cannot be dealt with at the same time.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 18, 2021 23:54:44 GMT
From Politico…. 3/24/2021. link“Vice President Kamala Harris will be the White House's point person on immigration issues at the nation's southern border, President Joe Biden announced Wednesday, tasking her with stemming the rising tide of migrants, many of them unaccompanied children, arriving in the U.S. "I can think of nobody who is better qualified to do this,” the president told reporters at the White House. Harris’ main focus, a senior administration official told reporters earlier Wednesday, will be two-pronged: working to slow the flow of “irregular migrants” by addressing “the root causes” that prompt them to leave their home countries as well as strengthening relationships with Mexico and the Northern Triangle countries where the bulk of the migrants arriving at the U.S. border come from.
The role puts Harris front-and-center at one of the most politically risky issues for the White House as it struggles with an influx of migrant children at the southern border. Harris acknowledged this, saying there “is no question this is a challenging situation,” but said that she would be looking forward to discussions with the leaders of the nations. On the call with reporters, aides made clear that Harris would not be owning the entire immigration portfolio for the administration and would be instead focused on long-term efforts in Central America.“[Harris] is going to be focused on overseeing our diplomatic efforts, working closely with these nations to look at the issues of migration and their own enforcement on their own borders," the senior administration official said. "More broadly, though, she's going to be working to implement a long-term strategy that gets at the root causes of migration.” As a presidential candidate, Biden proposed spending $4 billion over four years to tackle violence, climate change and government corruption in the Northern Triangle region — comprised of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. This is the process Harris will oversee.“We can talk all day about the symptoms of the situation, but you really have to get at what is causing this phenomenon, and that will be her focus,” the official said. “We are proceeding both with a sense of decency about treating migrants like human beings and doing the very best we can to care for people and treating our neighbors with respect and dignity.” Harris’ new responsibility is similar to one Biden had while he was vice president. He visited the region several times as more migrants from the three countries began to make their way en masse to the U.S.-Mexico border. Those efforts were seen as largely unsuccessful, and the situation in the countries has grown even more precarious. When asked what the president learned from that effort, Ambassador Roberta Jacobson, a special assistant to the president who previously served as the U.S. envoy to Mexico, said in a press briefing: “Both the President and all of us who worked for him on that learned a great deal. And I think that it’s really important that we put that to use now. One of the things he thinks is so important is being really explicit with leadership in the countries from which migrants are coming about commitments that they need to make, because overcoming the reasons people migrate is not going to be the United States’ job alone.” The administration didn’t share details on when Harris would start conversations with leaders or when the vice president would make a trip to any of the countries. But in an interview with CBS on Wednesday, Harris said she and Biden would be headed to the border soon. “
Let me repeat this from the story… “On the call with reporters, aides made clear that Harris would not be owning the entire immigration portfolio for the administration and would be instead focused on long-term efforts in Central America.”Her responsibility is to get at the “root causes” of the reason people are coming to our southern border. And she did say both her and President Biden will visit the border. Yet the only person getting heat for not visiting the border for a photo op is Vice President Harris and not President Biden. Why is that I wonder?
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Post by lucyg on Jun 19, 2021 0:08:14 GMT
When Fox News asks the question, it is not an innocent question. They’ve decided that she’s an easier target than President Biden and are deliberately going after her. And if they keep repeating the same questions, viewers will believe that there’s a scandal. The question has been asked and answered, there’s no reason to keep repeating it. They are asking her because she was put in charge of it. Answering with a misleading statement and then when called on that, answering with a flippant remark, then laughing while playing dumb, is not really answering the question. She clearly wasn’t prepared for the question and responded awkwardly. This doesn’t seem to be an incident worthy of the Fox News obsession with it. And the questioning and criticism and hostility from those who embrace the inept, crooked former guy leave me almost speechless. Remember when he LIED about the situation at the border? Several different times, about several different things? Oh right, I bet you don’t.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 19, 2021 0:08:54 GMT
From Politico…. 3/24/2021. link“Vice President Kamala Harris will be the White House's point person on immigration issues at the nation's southern border, President Joe Biden announced Wednesday, tasking her with stemming the rising tide of migrants, many of them unaccompanied children, arriving in the U.S. "I can think of nobody who is better qualified to do this,” the president told reporters at the White House. Harris’ main focus, a senior administration official told reporters earlier Wednesday, will be two-pronged: working to slow the flow of “irregular migrants” by addressing “the root causes” that prompt them to leave their home countries as well as strengthening relationships with Mexico and the Northern Triangle countries where the bulk of the migrants arriving at the U.S. border come from.
The role puts Harris front-and-center at one of the most politically risky issues for the White House as it struggles with an influx of migrant children at the southern border. Harris acknowledged this, saying there “is no question this is a challenging situation,” but said that she would be looking forward to discussions with the leaders of the nations. On the call with reporters, aides made clear that Harris would not be owning the entire immigration portfolio for the administration and would be instead focused on long-term efforts in Central America.“[Harris] is going to be focused on overseeing our diplomatic efforts, working closely with these nations to look at the issues of migration and their own enforcement on their own borders," the senior administration official said. "More broadly, though, she's going to be working to implement a long-term strategy that gets at the root causes of migration.” As a presidential candidate, Biden proposed spending $4 billion over four years to tackle violence, climate change and government corruption in the Northern Triangle region — comprised of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. This is the process Harris will oversee.“We can talk all day about the symptoms of the situation, but you really have to get at what is causing this phenomenon, and that will be her focus,” the official said. “We are proceeding both with a sense of decency about treating migrants like human beings and doing the very best we can to care for people and treating our neighbors with respect and dignity.” Harris’ new responsibility is similar to one Biden had while he was vice president. He visited the region several times as more migrants from the three countries began to make their way en masse to the U.S.-Mexico border. Those efforts were seen as largely unsuccessful, and the situation in the countries has grown even more precarious. When asked what the president learned from that effort, Ambassador Roberta Jacobson, a special assistant to the president who previously served as the U.S. envoy to Mexico, said in a press briefing: “Both the President and all of us who worked for him on that learned a great deal. And I think that it’s really important that we put that to use now. One of the things he thinks is so important is being really explicit with leadership in the countries from which migrants are coming about commitments that they need to make, because overcoming the reasons people migrate is not going to be the United States’ job alone.” The administration didn’t share details on when Harris would start conversations with leaders or when the vice president would make a trip to any of the countries. But in an interview with CBS on Wednesday, Harris said she and Biden would be headed to the border soon. “
Let me repeat this from the story… “On the call with reporters, aides made clear that Harris would not be owning the entire immigration portfolio for the administration and would be instead focused on long-term efforts in Central America.”Her responsibility is to get at the “root causes” of the reason people are coming to our southern border. And she did say both her and President Biden will visit the border. Yet the only person getting heat for not visiting the border for a photo op is Vice President Harris and not President Biden. Why is that I wonder? “ Vice President Kamala Harris will be the White House's point person on immigration issues at the nation's southern border, President Joe Biden announced Wednesday, tasking her with stemming the rising tide of migrants, many of them unaccompanied children, arriving in the U.S."
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Post by sideways on Jun 19, 2021 0:25:01 GMT
Well, don’t you think you’re clever? Really, you’re just displaying what an out-of-touch, insufferable idiot you are. What does Europe have to do with anything? You do know it’s not a country, right? And it’s Harris or the VP to you.
OMG you are absolutely right! WTF does Europe have to do with the southern border, and what kind of moron would even bring it up (Ill give you a hint--there's a reason the OP said that).
And the bolded--ummmmm, okay. LOL
So, you’re good with Harris not being given the same respect as her male counterparts. Noted.
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Post by sideways on Jun 19, 2021 0:27:12 GMT
Thanks! So, it's a nothingburger. Right, except sideways comes in with her dumbass comments insulting the OP, and then goes on to brag she doesn't need the news to form her own opinions, lol. Clueless and uninformed that one is. Bitchy and cunty is what you are. 😙
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 19, 2021 0:30:44 GMT
From Politico…. 3/24/2021. link“Vice President Kamala Harris will be the White House's point person on immigration issues at the nation's southern border, President Joe Biden announced Wednesday, tasking her with stemming the rising tide of migrants, many of them unaccompanied children, arriving in the U.S. "I can think of nobody who is better qualified to do this,” the president told reporters at the White House. Harris’ main focus, a senior administration official told reporters earlier Wednesday, will be two-pronged: working to slow the flow of “irregular migrants” by addressing “the root causes” that prompt them to leave their home countries as well as strengthening relationships with Mexico and the Northern Triangle countries where the bulk of the migrants arriving at the U.S. border come from.
The role puts Harris front-and-center at one of the most politically risky issues for the White House as it struggles with an influx of migrant children at the southern border. Harris acknowledged this, saying there “is no question this is a challenging situation,” but said that she would be looking forward to discussions with the leaders of the nations. On the call with reporters, aides made clear that Harris would not be owning the entire immigration portfolio for the administration and would be instead focused on long-term efforts in Central America.“[Harris] is going to be focused on overseeing our diplomatic efforts, working closely with these nations to look at the issues of migration and their own enforcement on their own borders," the senior administration official said. "More broadly, though, she's going to be working to implement a long-term strategy that gets at the root causes of migration.” As a presidential candidate, Biden proposed spending $4 billion over four years to tackle violence, climate change and government corruption in the Northern Triangle region — comprised of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. This is the process Harris will oversee.“We can talk all day about the symptoms of the situation, but you really have to get at what is causing this phenomenon, and that will be her focus,” the official said. “We are proceeding both with a sense of decency about treating migrants like human beings and doing the very best we can to care for people and treating our neighbors with respect and dignity.” Harris’ new responsibility is similar to one Biden had while he was vice president. He visited the region several times as more migrants from the three countries began to make their way en masse to the U.S.-Mexico border. Those efforts were seen as largely unsuccessful, and the situation in the countries has grown even more precarious. When asked what the president learned from that effort, Ambassador Roberta Jacobson, a special assistant to the president who previously served as the U.S. envoy to Mexico, said in a press briefing: “Both the President and all of us who worked for him on that learned a great deal. And I think that it’s really important that we put that to use now. One of the things he thinks is so important is being really explicit with leadership in the countries from which migrants are coming about commitments that they need to make, because overcoming the reasons people migrate is not going to be the United States’ job alone.” The administration didn’t share details on when Harris would start conversations with leaders or when the vice president would make a trip to any of the countries. But in an interview with CBS on Wednesday, Harris said she and Biden would be headed to the border soon. “
Let me repeat this from the story… “On the call with reporters, aides made clear that Harris would not be owning the entire immigration portfolio for the administration and would be instead focused on long-term efforts in Central America.”Her responsibility is to get at the “root causes” of the reason people are coming to our southern border. And she did say both her and President Biden will visit the border. Yet the only person getting heat for not visiting the border for a photo op is Vice President Harris and not President Biden. Why is that I wonder? “ Vice President Kamala Harris will be the White House's point person on immigration issues at the nation's southern border, President Joe Biden announced Wednesday, tasking her with stemming the rising tide of migrants, many of them unaccompanied children, arriving in the U.S." Cute…. What exactly do you think this means “tasking her with stemming the rising tide of migrants”. Just exactly how do you think her going to the border is going to “stem the rising tide”? You think she is going to stand on our side of the border and yell at the folks on the other side not to come or that she is physically going to toss people back across the Rio Grande river? The article is clear, her task is to get at and try and solve the “root causes “ for people leaving their country and trying to get into ours.
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Post by Merge on Jun 19, 2021 0:43:20 GMT
Don’t worry, folks, the governor of Texas has cleared out a whole state prison to house the kids dropped off by coyotes in the desert and women being trafficked, along with the single men who come here to pick vegetables and mow lawns.
I’m sure that will totally solve the problem.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 19, 2021 1:00:58 GMT
Just exactly how do you think her going to the border is going to “stem the rising tide”? Democrat Representative Henry Cuellar “We don’t just go visit the border, we live at the border. We talk to the NGOs there, we talk to the mayors, the county judges, to the border patrol, to the men and women in blue, green, and other folks, ICE agents also. We understand this very well.” “I still will encourage them to do more, to reach out to the folks on the border communities and keep talking to them, to make sure that they get a balanced view of what’s happening there at the border itself.” She and others know she should be making the effort to be there and see first hand what is happening there and hear from the people living it, knowing they more than likely have productive solutions. That's why she tried to brush it off with the statement that she has been to the border. The article is clear, her task is to get at and try and solve the “root causes “ for people leaving their country and trying to get into ours. If she wants to address the "root cause" she only needs to look at Biden's reversal of the remain in Mexico policy, Biden's suspension of the safe third country agreement that required them to apply for asylum in the first country they entered, Biden putting a moratorium on deportations, Biden lifting the emergency declaration. Her own tweet "Say it loud, say it clear, everyone is welcome here. #NoBanNoWall" Every single democrat candidate agreed to decriminalize coming across the border illegally and to hand out healthcare to those that come. Event the president of Guatemala who she went to see to determine the "root cause" says it's Biden's policies. He said they started seeking asylum in record numbers on Jan 20.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 19, 2021 1:17:36 GMT
Just exactly how do you think her going to the border is going to “stem the rising tide”? Democrat Representative Henry Cuellar “We don’t just go visit the border, we live at the border. We talk to the NGOs there, we talk to the mayors, the county judges, to the border patrol, to the men and women in blue, green, and other folks, ICE agents also. We understand this very well.” “I still will encourage them to do more, to reach out to the folks on the border communities and keep talking to them, to make sure that they get a balanced view of what’s happening there at the border itself.” She and others know she should be making the effort to be there and see first hand what is happening there and hear from the people living it, knowing they more than likely have productive solutions. That's why she tried to brush it off with the statement that she has been to the border. The article is clear, her task is to get at and try and solve the “root causes “ for people leaving their country and trying to get into ours. If she wants to address the "root cause" she only needs to look at Biden's reversal of the remain in Mexico policy, Biden's suspension of the safe third country agreement that required them to apply for asylum in the first country they entered, Biden putting a moratorium on deportations, Biden lifting the emergency declaration. Her own tweet "Say it loud, say it clear, everyone is welcome here. #NoBanNoWall" Every single democrat candidate agreed to decriminalize coming across the border illegally and to hand out healthcare to those that come. Event the president of Guatemala who she went to see to determine the "root cause" says it's Biden's policies. He said they started seeking asylum in record numbers on Jan 20. From CNN about trump’s staying in Mexico Plan.,, “Under Trump, migrants from Central America and other parts of the world who were seeking asylum at the US-Mexico border were forced to remain in Mexico until their immigration court hearings in the United States. That meant waiting months, if not years, in deplorable conditions and under the threat of extortion, sexual assault and kidnapping. Migrants can be easy identified based on their accents or attire and as a result, fall prey to gangs and corrupt authorities, among others.” You still think this a great plan?
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 19, 2021 1:36:06 GMT
Democrat Representative Henry Cuellar “We don’t just go visit the border, we live at the border. We talk to the NGOs there, we talk to the mayors, the county judges, to the border patrol, to the men and women in blue, green, and other folks, ICE agents also. We understand this very well.” “I still will encourage them to do more, to reach out to the folks on the border communities and keep talking to them, to make sure that they get a balanced view of what’s happening there at the border itself.” She and others know she should be making the effort to be there and see first hand what is happening there and hear from the people living it, knowing they more than likely have productive solutions. That's why she tried to brush it off with the statement that she has been to the border. If she wants to address the "root cause" she only needs to look at Biden's reversal of the remain in Mexico policy, Biden's suspension of the safe third country agreement that required them to apply for asylum in the first country they entered, Biden putting a moratorium on deportations, Biden lifting the emergency declaration. Her own tweet "Say it loud, say it clear, everyone is welcome here. #NoBanNoWall" Every single democrat candidate agreed to decriminalize coming across the border illegally and to hand out healthcare to those that come. Event the president of Guatemala who she went to see to determine the "root cause" says it's Biden's policies. He said they started seeking asylum in record numbers on Jan 20. From CNN about trump’s staying in Mexico Plan.,, “Under Trump, migrants from Central America and other parts of the world who were seeking asylum at the US-Mexico border were forced to remain in Mexico until their immigration court hearings in the United States. That meant waiting months, if not years, in deplorable conditions and under the threat of extortion, sexual assault and kidnapping. Migrants can be easy identified based on their accents or attire and as a result, fall prey to gangs and corrupt authorities, among others.” You still think this a great plan? No, it's not ideal. Those things continue to happen even on the journey when they come right in. It's awful what they go through. One of the major root causes of record numbers of people crossing is still the policies and messaging of Biden and Harris.
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Post by Merge on Jun 19, 2021 1:40:36 GMT
One of the major root causes of uninformed opinions is relying on Hannity as a news source.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 19, 2021 1:43:08 GMT
One of the major root causes of uninformed opinions is relying on Hannity as a news source. I don't watch Hannity.
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Post by Merge on Jun 19, 2021 1:43:23 GMT
One of the major root causes of uninformed opinions is relying on Hannity as a news source. I don't watch Hannity. Sure. Which of your favorite news entertainers has you continually using Democrat instead of Democratic to describe our representatives, then? I suppose you think Abbott’s plan to round them all up and put them in an old prison will really do the trick.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 19, 2021 1:46:35 GMT
Sure. Which of your favorite news entertainers has you continually using Democrat instead of Democratic to describe our representatives, then? What?
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Post by pierogi on Jun 19, 2021 2:00:11 GMT
When troll threads like these happen, I can’t help but think of that famous Sartre quote about anti-Semites, which easily applies to Trumpers.
Here it is in full:
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Trolling existed long before the internet. All the accounts who’ve miraculously reappeared are here for fun, so please do not feed the Energy Creatures, especially the little dancing goblin who leaves her poop everywhere.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 19, 2021 2:27:57 GMT
When troll threads like these happen, I can’t help but think of that famous Sartre quote about anti-semites, which easily applies to Trumpers. Here it is in full: “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” Trolling existed long before the internet. All the accounts who’ve miraculously reappeared are here for fun, so please do not feed the Energy Creatures, especially the little dancing goblin who leaves her poop everywhere. Why do you think she is a troll? She is not being rude to anyone. Not calling anyone names. She is stating her opinion. An opinion held by many conservatives. That doesn’t make her a troll.
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Post by hookturnian on Jun 19, 2021 2:58:45 GMT
using Democrat instead of Democratic Even half a world away I've come to think of that as the Trumplican shibboleth.
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