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Post by pixiechick on Jul 8, 2021 20:06:13 GMT
To think we’ve moved from the invented “They’ll come to our houses and seize our guns!” Not invented. ETA: I was having trouble including the video. |
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Post by pierogi on Jul 8, 2021 20:46:38 GMT
Why do you think any of this is unique to California? These things have been happening across the entire country. Access to vaccines has been available for months. If people want a vaccine, there's numerous ways to get vaccinated.
Also, I guaranfuckingtee if a republican administration wanted to send people knocking the left would lose their damn minds.
God, I get so sick of your stupidity. It’s fascinating. Like watching Plato’s Allegory of the Cave in real life. |
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Post by naby64 on Jul 8, 2021 21:00:23 GMT
I am pretty much at the point of if you don't want to be vaccinated fine, but if you die of COVID I'm not going to feel sorry for you. Oh I said this last night to DH when he told me about an older teen dying. He saw the story on tv and told me about it. When I told him, those are the consequences of his or his family's actions, his jaw hit the ground and he said you don't mean that. I told him I most certainly do. Do I feel bad for his mother grieving the loss of a child? heck yeah. Do I want to yell but if you had just...? sigh...yes. I am done. I am tired. I don't understand why, if you have the option, why are you not getting vaccinated. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 8, 2021 21:01:02 GMT
God, I get so sick of your stupidity. It’s fascinating. Like watching Plato’s Allegory of the Cave in real life. 😂🤣😂🤣!! |
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 8, 2021 21:02:49 GMT
I remember frantically signing up for every volunteer slot at the start of the year when my university had a clinic so that I could get the vaccine as early as possible. Spending half a day getting appointments for my elderly parents. And then spending hours hunting down an appointment for my 15-year-old when the vaccine was approved for 12-16-year-olds.
Imagine complaining because you had an easy way to get vaccinated if you wanted.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 8, 2021 21:55:12 GMT
Door to door efforts have been underway in Houston since early in the vaccination process, precisely to reach people who lacked transportation or were afraid to go out in a public place due to serious health issues. Zero pushback from any Republican in the state on this until Biden suggested it. I don’t get the “they’ll know if you’re vaccinated or not” thing. If you don’t want them to know, lie and tell them you are. Same thing you do if they come around wanting to register you to vote or anything else. It really just seems to be refusing vaccination efforts to “own the libs.” Never have I seen a group of people so determined to cut off their noses to spite their own faces. I don't know if that was aimed at me, but it was just a guess I had. I'm in camp fully vaccinated and think everyone with a brain that is medically able should be vaccinated |
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2021 22:31:15 GMT
Door to door efforts have been underway in Houston since early in the vaccination process, precisely to reach people who lacked transportation or were afraid to go out in a public place due to serious health issues. Zero pushback from any Republican in the state on this until Biden suggested it. I don’t get the “they’ll know if you’re vaccinated or not” thing. If you don’t want them to know, lie and tell them you are. Same thing you do if they come around wanting to register you to vote or anything else. It really just seems to be refusing vaccination efforts to “own the libs.” Never have I seen a group of people so determined to cut off their noses to spite their own faces. I don't know if that was aimed at me, but it was just a guess I had. I'm in camp fully vaccinated and think everyone with a brain that is medically able should be vaccinated Oh no, not aimed at anyone - I've heard the thing about them being afraid for the government to know if they're vaccinated or not elsewhere, too. Just a general shout out to the universe. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2021 22:35:54 GMT
Check this out.... Think Roe v Wade too...
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2021 22:39:02 GMT
I am pretty much at the point of if you don't want to be vaccinated fine, but if you die of COVID I'm not going to feel sorry for you. Oh I said this last night to DH when he told me about an older teen dying. He saw the story on tv and told me about it. When I told him, those are the consequences of his or his family's actions, his jaw hit the ground and he said you don't mean that. I told him I most certainly do. Do I feel bad for his mother grieving the loss of a child? heck yeah. Do I want to yell but if you had just...? sigh...yes. I am done. I am tired. I don't understand why, if you have the option, why are you not getting vaccinated. We had the news here recently that there are at least 125 cases - all believed to be Delta variant - that originated at a summer camp run by a church south of Houston. The camp was for kids in grades 6-12, so most are old enough to be vaccinated and just weren't. It's infuriating. There was a piece today in NYT about teens who want to be vaccinated, but whose parents won't allow it. I just can't imagine making that decision and then seeing your kid die of covid or have long-term health effects. It would be a nightmare. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2021 23:06:09 GMT
Check this out.... Think Roe v Wade too... The hypocrisy is unbelievable. These are the same morons that said in terms of masks, my body, my choice. Of course if it’s a woman’s body, it’s perfectly OK for the government to interfere in medical decisions for women. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2021 23:18:36 GMT
aj2hall you will note that I am keeping those all together in a message to myself!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 9, 2021 0:20:32 GMT
The anti-vaxxers need to pay attention NOW! "It is heart-wrenching to see unvaccinated individuals come into the hospital with regret," Dr. Ryan Dare of the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences in Little Rock told NBC News. He told the network the hospitalizations are "nearly 100 percent preventable. He noted treating clients who, "if they could do it all over again, would have had the vaccine in a second." Dr Juarez reported he has patients who are "shocked" that coronavirus exists and can be fatal. "A comment they make all the time is that they wish that they knew they were going to end up in the hospital this sick and they would have made a different choice and got the vaccine," he said. Wyoming is also suffering, with only a 35% vaccination rate. www.rawstory.com/anti-vaxxer-hospitalization/ |
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Post by hookturnian on Jul 9, 2021 0:27:54 GMT
Check this out.... Think Roe v Wade too... LOL the military is both "boss" and "government" and has mandatory vaccinations. I imagine covid vaccinations will be mandatory in the military once they have full approval (as opposed to EUA). |
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Post by hookturnian on Jul 9, 2021 0:35:33 GMT
In South Africa girls receive both their HPV vaccine doses at school. Parents are informed when the Health Dept will be visiting, and have to sign and submit permission slips beforehand. The girls have to bring in their vax records on the day, so they can be updated. Vax records are issued before mum and baby leave the hospital after birth.
I think they also get their last booster shots for something or other at school at around 16. I remember lining up for one but I'm not sure if it still happens.
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Post by jinxmom2003 on Jul 9, 2021 0:37:50 GMT
My guess is that it means the government knows they are not vaccinated. I would not volunteer for that job. Too many crazies out there Not necessarily. You could decline to answer. They might assume; but that’s not proof. Or—just don’t answer the door. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 9, 2021 1:56:34 GMT
Been thinking about this and I would think they might be in some kind of marked vehicle.
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 9, 2021 2:03:59 GMT
In South Africa girls receive both their HPV vaccine doses at school. Parents are informed when the Health Dept will be visiting, and have to sign and submit permission slips beforehand. The girls have to bring in their vax records on the day, so they can be updated. Vax records are issued before mum and baby leave the hospital after birth. I think they also get their last booster shots for something or other at school at around 16. I remember lining up for one but I'm not sure if it still happens. Why is the HPV vaccine only for girls in S. Africa? Boys are carriers, too. Hopefully, they will include all. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 9, 2021 4:27:24 GMT
I think it was yesterday on the news I saw a little 12 year old girl sobbing. She said, I told my mom to get that vaccine, I told her and told her but she kept saying no. The mother died from COVID and the girl and her little brother are now motherless.
This is the problem with the self absorbed, stupid, they cause the innocents so much pain.
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Post by hookturnian on Jul 9, 2021 5:19:35 GMT
In South Africa girls receive both their HPV vaccine doses at school. Parents are informed when the Health Dept will be visiting, and have to sign and submit permission slips beforehand. The girls have to bring in their vax records on the day, so they can be updated. Vax records are issued before mum and baby leave the hospital after birth. I think they also get their last booster shots for something or other at school at around 16. I remember lining up for one but I'm not sure if it still happens. Why is the HPV vaccine only for girls in S. Africa? Boys are carriers, too. Hopefully, they will include all. Simple, vaccines cost the government money and South Africa is not rich. All vaccines provided by the government's primary health care system are free for the population. South Africa also provides free medical care for all children under the age of 6, and pregnant and breastfeeding women and very heavily subsidised (on a sliding scale but users typically pay about 5 or 10USD) or free healthcare for poorer people, pensioners and those who qualify for government assistance. This is about 80% of the population of 59 million. This govt subsidised healthcare also extends to management of chronic conditions such as hypertension, diabetes (incl insulin), HIV, heart disease, etc as well as treating TB, and providing birth control. I'm sure if they had more money they would extend free HPV vaccines to boys too. ETA. Just to clarify, boys can get the HPV vaccine in South Africa, but at a cost and in the private medical sector, for example from your doctor. It is not currently available for free to boys in the rollout at schools. |
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Post by sueg on Jul 9, 2021 6:29:05 GMT
The anti-vaxxers need to pay attention NOW! "It is heart-wrenching to see unvaccinated individuals come into the hospital with regret," Dr. Ryan Dare of the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences in Little Rock told NBC News. He told the network the hospitalizations are "nearly 100 percent preventable. He noted treating clients who, "if they could do it all over again, would have had the vaccine in a second." Dr Juarez reported he has patients who are "shocked" that coronavirus exists and can be fatal."A comment they make all the time is that they wish that they knew they were going to end up in the hospital this sick and they would have made a different choice and got the vaccine," he said. Wyoming is also suffering, with only a 35% vaccination rate. www.rawstory.com/anti-vaxxer-hospitalization/Seriously? After 16 months of this virus wreaking havoc across the world, they still doubt its existence and/or didn't know you could end up in hospital or die from it? That's not 'not paying attention' - not paying attention was an excuse up until about Easter 2020. It is now a refusal to face facts or to have to admit they were wrong about something. I have very little sympathy for these people. |
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Post by claudia123 on Jul 9, 2021 9:00:29 GMT
One thing I've been very suprised about in this pandemic is the refusal of many people on the left to acknowledge that some people are hesitant to get the vaccine due to mistrust in the government and medical services, often due to factors such as institutional racism. These people are not stupid, nor do they deserve to catch covid, and they have valid concern which i doubt are resolved by people knocking on doors.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 9, 2021 10:25:27 GMT
One thing I've been very suprised about in this pandemic is the refusal of many people on the left to acknowledge that some people are hesitant to get the vaccine due to mistrust in the government and medical services, often due to factors such as institutional racism. These people are not stupid, nor do they deserve to catch covid, and they have valid concern which i doubt are resolved by people knocking on doors. I think proactively reaching out with education about the vaccine is the perfect way to help overcome some of these challenges. I'm curious, what is your suggested method for overcoming these challenges and helping these people get vaccinated? I'm not thinking I want to just say, yeah, institutional racism and dead end there. We have to find a way to overcome it for the health of these people who I do absolutely care about. If this is where their vaccine hesitancy is coming from. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 9, 2021 10:49:33 GMT
One thing I've been very suprised about in this pandemic is the refusal of many people on the left to acknowledge that some people are hesitant to get the vaccine due to mistrust in the government and medical services, often due to factors such as institutional racism. These people are not stupid, nor do they deserve to catch covid, and they have valid concern which i doubt are resolved by people knocking on doors. I don’t think the left has failed to acknowledge this. This is why preachers and other community leaders that people trust are reaching out. And the statistics show that many of the non vaccinated are conservative white men, so no institutional racism there. Wyoming has the lowest rate of vaccinations. www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/04/23/republican-men-are-vaccine-hesitant-but-theres-little-focus-on-them |
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Post by peano on Jul 9, 2021 14:35:42 GMT
One thing I've been very suprised about in this pandemic is the refusal of many people on the left to acknowledge that some people are hesitant to get the vaccine due to mistrust in the government and medical services, often due to factors such as institutional racism. These people are not stupid, nor do they deserve to catch covid, and they have valid concern which i doubt are resolved by people knocking on doors. Au contraire. I think it is the Left who recognize some resistance to the vaccine may be related to historical abuse of minorities by the government and medical establishment. This is no doubt fueling the current effort. I don't think anyone on this thread is castigating POC. Our wrath is reserved for people who are paranoid because Fearless Leader told them to be (even while being vaxxed himself) and seem to be oblivious (aka delusional) to the fact that COVID is real, COVID kills people, COVID is not a bad cold and can leave lingering effects that we still don't understand. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 9, 2021 15:30:38 GMT
One thing I've been very suprised about in this pandemic is the refusal of many people on the left to acknowledge that some people are hesitant to get the vaccine due to mistrust in the government and medical services, often due to factors such as institutional racism. These people are not stupid, nor do they deserve to catch covid, and they have valid concern which i doubt are resolved by people knocking on doors. I totally understand POC being suspicious and choosing not to get the vaccine. They have been injected with disease and experimented on in the past. Their fear is absolutely justified. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 9, 2021 15:31:55 GMT
One thing I've been very suprised about in this pandemic is the refusal of many people on the left to acknowledge that some people are hesitant to get the vaccine due to mistrust in the government and medical services, often due to factors such as institutional racism. These people are not stupid, nor do they deserve to catch covid, and they have valid concern which i doubt are resolved by people knocking on doors. Au contraire. I think it is the Left who recognize some resistance to the vaccine may be related to historical abuse of minorities by the government and medical establishment. This is no doubt fueling the current effort. I don't think anyone on this thread is castigating POC. Our wrath is reserved for people who are paranoid because Fearless Leader told them to be (even while being vaxxed himself) and seem to be oblivious (aka delusional) to the fact that COVID is real, COVID kills people, COVID is not a bad cold and can leave lingering effects that we still don't understand. if we're going to talk in sweeping generalities, I'll play! I'm fairly certain it is the RIGHT, not the LEFT, which refuses to acknowledge even the EXISTENCE of institutional racism. So Claudia, your reasoning is flawed right from the get-go. "The Left" DOES understand that institutional racism exists, the ongoing problems it has caused, medical and otherwise, and IS working to overcome it in this instance with things such as, oh, I don't know... maybe door to door visits and having community leaders, pastors, etc. working to talk with people in their communities about the vaccine.  |
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Post by julie5 on Jul 9, 2021 15:51:00 GMT
I’m a vaxed Democrat and I still don’t want anyone knocking on my door. I hate that. And sending people out for vaccination efforts just puts them into the same group as salesmen and Mormons. There has to be a better way.
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Post by lbp on Jul 9, 2021 16:13:57 GMT
The same reason I and many of you don't want preachers going door to door. If I want religion I will go to church. Don't come to my door
If I want insurance don't come to my door, I'll call you.
If I want the vaccine (and I have had it) don't come to my door, I'll go get it.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 9, 2021 16:28:04 GMT
If I want the vaccine (and I have had it) don't come to my door, I'll go get it. Or may they have different hesitancies than you did. WHY IS THAT FACT SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE??? NOT EVERYONE OUT THERE HAS YOUR (apparently cushy, happy-go-lucky) LIFE!!!(YES, I'm yelling. People with privilege (economic, educational, racial, health-related, etc.) and WILLFUL blinders about that privilege are freakin' ANNOYING, IRRITATING, AND FRANKLY, IGNORANT AND ARROGANT.) |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 9, 2021 16:32:21 GMT
suegThey don't watch main stream news. They claim, as did their wonderful leader, that Covid is a Hoax!
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