“Wokeness:” Biggest threat for Democrats?

That’s great that your state provides those things, but many deep red states do not.  Moving is not always an option for people for a vast variety of reasons - jobs, family proximity, expense of moving, cost of living differences etc.  And being involved in politics is admirable, but in some states, it will not change anything in the short term.  Just look at how so many states are passing voter suppression laws, restricting reproductive rights etc.  With Republican led legislatures and gerrymandering, there’s not a lot of hope that things will change.

That’s a great book.

Damn. This is probably one of the more insane things I’ve seen on here.

It smacks of “I’ve got these things because of what place in the country I live - but it’s up to y’all to get your own”. 😲 No matter if those states are heavily gerrymandered in order to maintain the status quo (something that will require federal legislation to address) or not.

I’ve got mine screw the rest of you.

Wow. *United* States indeed.

Especially puzzling philosophy coming from some one who seems to be proud of her state having those things.

Why wouldn’t you want others to have that too? 🤷🏼‍♀️

I don’t get it.

How sad and disgusting that it apparently was a hoax. 

I have been haunted by reading the sentiments attached to this here.

Let’s say for a minute that it was true, that there was a trans woman in the women’s locker room. Why is one person’s/a couple of people’s discomfort with that so much more important than forcing a trans woman to use men’s bathrooms in public and locker rooms forcing them to “out” themselves to men? There is a problem with real physical violence against trans women. At least 26 trans women were killed in 2019, and that doesn’t include non-fatal violence. yourdream.liveyourdream.org/2021/06/violence-against-transgender-women-a-growing-crisis/ In 2020, 46 transgender people were killed - the majority being women of color. www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-trans-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2020?utm_source=GS&utm_medium=AD&utm_campaign=BPI-HRC-Grant&utm_content=454864016076&utm_term=hate%20crimes&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpi8j4MDFjQY2so3418wk6MuKPMmRJafsPGwt-iCWY1Ws21na8rCbRkaAk5SEALw_wcB

If 46 people were killed last year just for being Christian, you can damn well bet that there would be protection laws in 50 states and at the federal level passed for them. There wouldn’t be any boo-hoo’ing about doing whatever could be done to protect them. There would be National outrage. Instead, we have outrage at the thought that someone might see a penis. 

I just can’t wrap my head around thinking that ensuring that someone who is attending a Korean spa (I live less than a mile from the largest one in Northern VA, where my kids’ school communications come home in English on one side and Korean on the other) - where nudity is on full display for hours on end - not see a penis is more important that doing what we can to ensure that trans women can use bathrooms and locker rooms that they feel safe in.  They are a segment of the population that is literally being killed for who they are - and mainly by cis men.  

Why would anyone with a heart think that repealing trans bathroom protection laws is a good thing?  

(As an aside, I think that having a child (which evidently the person who made the video actually didn’t have with her) see what my “breasts” look like naked would more traumatizing than seeing a penis. I don’t change in public in locker rooms any more because of it and won’t ever go back to my local Korean Spa. But no one is trying to take away my rights to be there if I chose to do so.)

I couldn’t find the link in the post above and curious what happened…

From Slate.  link

”Violence Over a Transphobic Hoax Shows the Danger of Underestimating Anti-Trans Hate”

“Police suspect the viral L.A. Wi Spa video is fake—but it still got two people stabbed.

On July 3, an anti-transgender protest outside a Los Angeles spa resulted in two stabbings—all over a social media post that police are now treating as a hoax. Back on June 24, a user called cubanangel posted a video on Instagram showing her and at least two other women confronting a staff member at Wi Spa on Wilshire Boulevard in Koreatown about having seen “a man with a penis” in the women’s changing area. “I’m recording this because I’m gonna make a big deal. I’m gonna take this very worldwide,” she explains, kicking off four minutes berating the staff member over the queer-friendly spa’s nondiscrimination policy.

Soon after the video began to go viral in transphobic corners of the internet, members of the trans community began to raise questions about it—chief among them why the video cuts out as the woman marches downstairs to confront this person she’s allegedly seen, conveniently ending before the trans woman she’s so angry about is shown. The woman also repeatedly mentions children being exposed to a penis, while no children appear on the video and the group don’t appear to have any children with them. These early doubts have been bolstered by reporting from the Los Angeles Blade that police suspect a hoax after failing to find witnesses who saw a trans woman at the spa, and that Wi Spa claims none of their trans clients had scheduled appointments that day.

To understand why this incident is so disturbing, it’s worth being clear about what the hoax is even claiming: that a trans woman used a changing room that she was fully allowed to use … on a day when no trans women actually happened to be using it. There was no specific claim of wrongdoing or inappropriate conduct on the part of this alleged person, although the colorful language used in the video certainly sparks the imagination, likely leading those with a transphobic cast of mind to fill the vacuum of facts with horrific acts of lewdness or indecency. Perhaps this is why outrage over the possibility that a trans woman may have changed her clothes in the appropriate facilities grew and grew, culminating in the protest outside Wi Spa, which included a contingent of violent extremists from the far right. The two stabbing victims were attacked by an anti-trans protester: One was a counterprotester; the other apparently a “friendly stab” incident where a fellow protester was hit by mistake.

Anti-trans activism is often thought of as a sideshow or a distraction, but these events show the real dangers of an increasingly extremist anti-trans backlash. In this case, an uncorroborated suggestion that a trans woman was using a women’s space ignited a protest that resulted in violence and led to a woman being hospitalized. That there was likely no trans woman there to begin with only underscores how thin a pretext is needed to prompt these sorts of outbursts from the far right. Trans people and our allies should not ignore the growing anti-trans sentiment in this country.”

I am the mother of a trans kid. She recently came out and I have had only months to process this. My initial reaction was relief. Because this helps explain some of the recent suicide attempts. She is bipolar, has autism, and is taking hormones for the past 6 months. I think the introduction of hormones upset the balance of her bipolar medications and now I hope we have that under control. So I feel relief on that end.

With that said, I feel fear. Fear that society is not going to react to my child in a good way. Fear that she will be discriminated against to the point that she will attempt to take her own life again. Fear that she will be harmed by someone who is not "woke". And I'm trying to figure out how I can best advocate for her and support her as she makes this transition.

And I think it may be easy to poo poo the side that is against these social changes...when it doesn't affect you directly. I think until it's personal to you, maybe you don't understand. I can't imagine being the person affected directly but I know the fear of loving someone who is. So please before you say that society needs time to adjust, before you say that all people are not going to be accepting, think of that fear a mother may have for their child. I frankly do not have time for society to adjust. My child's health and safety depends on you being "woke". Put yourself in my shoes.

We've had thousands of years to "get there".

We're not "getting there" fast enough to save lives.

WOKE UP.

“Wokeness”

A republicans derogatory term to describe people (more often than not liberals and progressives) who want to see people treated equally.

Their religious views are not and should not be a matter of policy, nor should they be used to harm the lives of others (and they are).

You mean some of these “socialist” ideas—-

Defund the police? Actively the only people defunding the police are the Republican Party in congress (yet they scream that it’s the democrats)

Equal rights, marriage for LBGTQ? The only party trying to eliminate gays are republicans, moderate-to far right.

Equality for POC? Why then are republicans hell bent on suppressing their voices, treating them than lesser than? Their voting record in congress shows that they really don’t give a shit about POC.

A couple of days ago I asked the question about why was “wokeness” a derogatory word when it means being aware.  Of course I didn’t expect an answer.

I had planned on ignoring a couple of other nuggets in these two posts that I have questions about but I made the mistake of reading the news on Twitter.

My take away from this morning is Ted Cruz is a lying ass and dumpster don is a dangerous psychopath.

Cruz is ginning up the rhetoric about immigration at the border with lies.  And dumpster don is basically telling his followers not to get vaccinated and trying to make it all President Biden’s fault.

Would someone please provide examples of the Democrats doing crap like this? Seriously.  There are none.

So I’m assuming what the Democrats are doing that is “hated” are the pesky social issues the Democrats push.   

To me social issues are people and how they live their lives because of who they are and the push back by some is because they are uncomfortable with it.  No other reason, it’s just they are uncomfortable.

An example was given on this thread about an action by a transgender..  The comment following it was the Republicans warned this would happen.  It was shown to be a hoax and didn’t happen.  But for a minute say it did happen?  It simply would have been bad behavior by one individual and not indicate of all transgenders. 

So if you (General you) have a problem with social issues and want to punish  folks for being who they are and not who think they should be because you are uncomfortable with it then the problem is with you and not the Democrats who feel it’s important for people to be able to live their true lives.

As far as this “just so far left”, just what exactly does that mean?  Or is “so far left” the social issues.

But the question those who have a problem with a “far left agenda” should be asking themselves is just exactly what has the right offered as an alternative to this “far left agenda”?  Anything?  Have they offered anything to make this country a better place for all Americans?

i agree - although i think the rise of T---- came out of having a Black president. I really do.

the answer to your question is No, she hasn't.  Not that I've seen. And all I can do at what I bolded / changed to blue is shake my head.  The stupidity and hypocrisy *still* amazes me, even though I guess by now it shouldn't any longer. 

Ok. Has it occurred to you that when we cave to anti-LGBTQ folks in “not going too far left” that we ARE letting the Republicans control the narrative?

This is basic human rights stuff. It shouldn’t be right or left. Buying the lie that we need to wait until people are ready is letting someone else control the narrative.

Refusing to concede that our positions are anything other than common sense and justice is how we control it. IMO.

(If someone has bought the Fox koolaid, they will never vote for us anyway, no matter how far center we move.)

Merge said: This is basic human rights stuff. It shouldn’t be right or left.

Amen. These issues should never be political. They are humanity related issues. How sad is it that half our country is willing to let racism, misogyny, xenophobia, religious bigotry stand in the way of other people's right to just live their lives in peace and freedom?