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Post by aj2hall on Jul 27, 2021 17:12:39 GMT
I pay no attention to the NYT, so forget that one. Per the NPR article: "Black Americans, who vote overwhelmingly Democratic, aren't getting the vaccine at the rate of whites. Less than a quarter of Black Americans had gotten at lease one vaccine dose as of Tuesday, according to the CDC. It's the lowest of any racial or ethnic group listed." "Black Americans also make up a significant percentage of the population in places like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina and Georgia. Those are seven of the 10 states with the lowest adult vaccination rates, though the gathering of data by race and ethnicity has been spotty depending on the state." "Young people, who also lean heavily toward Democrats, are also less likely to get vaccinated. More than 80% of people over 65 have gotten at least one shot, compared with just 45% of 18- to 24-year-olds and 51% of those 25 to 39." "The May NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll found 75% of Black adults said they had gotten a shot or would get it when one came available. That was about the same as white adults, but Black adults trailed whites when it came to those who said they'd actually received one." I just don't see how all of the above can lead to a conclusion that there's only a 2% vax holdout by democrats. I think it’s important to note the differences in vaccine hesitancy among minorities vs Republicans. Blacks and minorities are more on the side of wait and see vs Republicans digging in their heels and refusing to ever get the vaccine. Republicans refusing the vaccine think they don’t need it. www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/unvaccinated-americans-whiter-more-republican-vaccinatedFor example, she said, "believing that the media has exaggerated the seriousness of the pandemic — that's something that we heard President [Donald] Trump saying when he was in office. It's something that Republicans are more likely to agree with than Democrats. And people who believe that the pandemic has been exaggerated are much less likely to say they want to get the vaccine." |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 28, 2021 1:41:20 GMT
You are amazing pixiechick . You can take what people see and hear with their own eyes and ears and try to twist into something else. It's fascinating to watch the mental gymnastics you are willing to play with yourself. I watched all those press conferences. I read his words on Twitter. I see what his supporters are posting. You all need your heads examined because you're not dealing in reality. And that's as nice as I can be. That IS amazing. I show you where Politico showed for a fact he never said to drink or inject bleach. (those seem to be the ever interchangeable FALSE accusations) I show you in video his own words that he also didn't say it would be over by Easter. In fact he said the words "it's going to go on a long time." And you brain tells you that I'M the one twisting his words? Seriously, do some HONEST self reflection. And not just you. All the people that liked your post. There IS a reason why you essentially only have people on one side of the aisle talking here anymore. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 28, 2021 2:19:37 GMT
You are amazing pixiechick . You can take what people see and hear with their own eyes and ears and try to twist into something else. It's fascinating to watch the mental gymnastics you are willing to play with yourself. I watched all those press conferences. I read his words on Twitter. I see what his supporters are posting. You all need your heads examined because you're not dealing in reality. And that's as nice as I can be. That IS amazing. I show you where Politico showed for a fact he never said to drink or inject bleach. (those seem to be the ever interchangeable FALSE accusations) I show you in video his own words that he also didn't say it would be over by Easter. In fact he said the words "it's going to go on a long time." And you brain tells you that I'M the one twisting his words? Seriously, do some HONEST self reflection. And not just you. All the people that liked your post. There IS a reason why you essentially only have people on one side of the aisle talking here anymore. You’re losing the bigger picture and missing the main point (maybe deliberately because there is no defense) with all of this scrutinizing of the details. I acknowledged all of your objections. Former’s suggestion to health officials to study the injection of bleach was stupid, reckless and dangerous. So dangerous that Clorox issued a warning. He did claim that the numbers would somehow magically go from 15 to zero, a complete lie at the time. Even he knew it wasn’t true but all he cared about were his chances of re-election so he downplayed the seriousness of the virus. And he wanted businesses back to fully open and packed churches on Easter. You can argue semantics all you want. Bottom line, he had stupid, reckless, dangerous ideas. He downplayed the seriousness of the virus, undermined science and undermined health experts, epidemiologists and doctors. The point that all of us are making, one that you refuse to acknowledge, is that Trump undermined confidence in the vaccine and is directly responsible for many of his supporters refusing the vaccine. If you had a balance scale with former one one side and VP Harris/ President Biden on the other, former’s side would be on the floor. All of Trump’s actions and words regarding covid undermined the vaccine. You can claim the left is twisting words all you want, accuse them of false accusations etc but the bottom line is that you are cherry picking, ignoring facts and details that don’t fit your narrative, making false premises, false comparisons, false equivalencies and gaslighting. The fact that no one has agreed with you (with the possible exception of LindaS who almost never has anything to actually contribute to political discussions) in terms of your claim that VP Harris undermined confidence in the vaccine is an indication that you’re flat out wrong. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 28, 2021 3:51:32 GMT
That IS amazing. I show you where Politico showed for a fact he never said to drink or inject bleach. (those seem to be the ever interchangeable FALSE accusations) I show you in video his own words that he also didn't say it would be over by Easter. In fact he said the words "it's going to go on a long time." And you brain tells you that I'M the one twisting his words? Seriously, do some HONEST self reflection. And not just you. All the people that liked your post. There IS a reason why you essentially only have people on one side of the aisle talking here anymore. You’re losing the bigger picture and missing the main point (maybe deliberately because there is no defense) with all of this scrutinizing of the details. I acknowledged all of your objections. Former’s suggestion to health officials to study the injection of bleach was stupid, reckless and dangerous. So dangerous that Clorox issued a warning. He did claim that the numbers would somehow magically go from 15 to zero, a complete lie at the time. Even he knew it wasn’t true but all he cared about were his chances of re-election so he downplayed the seriousness of the virus. And he wanted businesses back to fully open and packed churches on Easter. You can argue semantics all you want. Bottom line, he had stupid, reckless, dangerous ideas. He downplayed the seriousness of the virus, undermined science and undermined health experts, epidemiologists and doctors. The point that all of us are making, one that you refuse to acknowledge, is that Trump undermined confidence in the vaccine and is directly responsible for many of his supporters refusing the vaccine. If you had a balance scale with former one one side and VP Harris/ President Biden on the other, former’s side would be on the floor. All of Trump’s actions and words regarding covid undermined the vaccine. You can claim the left is twisting words all you want, accuse them of false accusations etc but the bottom line is that you are cherry picking, ignoring facts and details that don’t fit your narrative, making false premises, false comparisons, false equivalencies and gaslighting. The fact that no one has agreed with you (with the possible exception of LindaS who almost never has anything to actually contribute to political discussions) in terms of your claim that VP Harris undermined confidence in the vaccine is an indication that you’re flat out wrong. I acknowledged all of your objections. Where? You can argue semantics all you want. He did not say to drink bleach. That isn't semantics, it's a fact. The Left leaning Politico has stated that and has shown how and why it is not true. He did not say the virus will be over by Easter. It isn't semantics, it's a fact. Ask yourself why you won't just let that stand? Don't defend it, actually ask of yourself why you won't. Not Donald Trump. YOU. You know damn well if I had a fact wrong, you'd be all over it. That's indisputable anymore. The fact that no one has agreed with you (with the possible exception of LindaS who almost never has anything to actually contribute to political discussions) in terms of your claim that VP Harris undermined confidence in the vaccine is an indication that you’re flat out wrong. Your very statement here shows otherwise. The reason no one who might agree with anything I'm saying will say so is because they can see what it takes to even discuss facts. Even the one person who dared have any agreement with me is dismissed as meaningless. Who the hell wants to bother? The ONLY indication of why no one that may agree with me will say so, is this:
You dismiss anything but outright lockstep obedience in the accepted narrative. ORANGE MAN BAD. Or any version thereof. That's all you will allow to be said without bulldozing over it. If you can't even discuss proven facts without being bulldozed for saying them there is nothing worth saying to you. It's no longer an honest discussion. Stop trying to bulldoze over opposing view points and look at your OWN actions. Take a moment for your own HONEST self reflection. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 28, 2021 4:24:20 GMT
I acknowledged all of your points right here - twice in fact. Former’s suggestion to health officials to study the injection of bleach was stupid, reckless and dangerous. So dangerous that Clorox issued a warning.
He did claim that the numbers would somehow magically go from 15 to zero, a complete lie at the time. Even he knew it wasn’t true but all he cared about were his chances of re-election so he downplayed the seriousness of the virus.
And he wanted businesses back to fully open and packed churches on Easter.Telling officials to study injecting bleach vs telling people to inject bleach is irrelevant. Both are stupid, dangerous, reckless ideas. And the main point that you continue to ignore or disregard - Trump undermined confidence in the vaccine and is directly responsible for many of his supporters refusing the vaccine. If you want to talk facts, let’s talk about how you keep falsely claiming VP Harris said she didn’t trust the vaccine. The exact quote has been posted several times, but you keep ignoring it and repeating the falsehood. Biden & Harris distrusted former, not the vaccine. For someone who likes to scrutinize minute details, you ironically (and conveniently) overlook this major, significant detail. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/23/tiktok-posts/biden-harris-doubted-trump-covid-19-vaccines-not-v/If LindaS actually engaged instead of just liking posts or dropping bombs and not returning, I would not dismiss her. As far as why no one else agrees with you, we will have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, no one agrees with you because former is indefensible after he incited an insurrection, ignored and badly mishandled a pandemic and told more than 20,000 lies, the most dangerous one about the non existent election fraud. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 4:53:08 GMT
I bet Trump supporters hate hearing the "inject bleach" thing about as much as Gore supporters hated hearing the "invented the internet" thing.
Actual words: "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that."
"“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.”"
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 28, 2021 5:31:59 GMT
Back to the original topic, I thought this was an interesting podcast on the parallels between cancel culture & politcal correctness. www.npr.org/2021/07/02/1012696671/co-opted-and-weaponized-cancel-culture-is-just-todays-politically-correctConservatives pick up a term that liberals use among themselves and weaponize it against them by framing it to their base as an attack on their values. 5 reasons why the GOP is focusing on wokeness and cancel culture. I thought these were really great points. In many ways, we are just watching an old GOP strategy with new language and different issues.
Second, this strategy unifies the GOP while dividing the Democrats, a very useful function in a two-party system in which the parties are in a zero-sum competition. As we wrote about this week, many ideas that are newly ascendant on the left, such as reducing funding for police, divide Democrats (more on that in a bit) but unify Republicans. Moreover, many of these ideas are opposed by a majority of the public. fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-attacking-cancel-culture-and-woke-people-is-becoming-the-gops-new-political-strategy/And this poll about issues that many Democrats feel very passionate about is a little worrisome. Republicans unite in opposing equality-focused positions Share of people, by party and overall, who support each position according to polling POSITION DEMS REPS ALL Significant obstacles for women compared to men 79% 26% 55% There are more than two gender identities 52 24 40 A negative view of capitalism 44 20 33 Agree that “every billionaire is a policy failure” 29 20 11 It is “a lot more difficult” to be a Black person 74 9 44 Police funding should be reduced 41 8 25 Cash reparations for Black Americans 49 5 29 White people benefit “a great deal” from advantages Black people don’t have 59 5 34 SOURCES: PEW RESEARCH CENTER, PRRI, GALLUP, YOUGOV sorry, that didn’t copy well, but you can see it in the link. I’m not suggesting Democrats abandon these ideals, we just need to try harder to talk to Republicans about why they’re important. I don’t think we’ll ever reach the misogynistic, racist, xenophobic Trump supporting base. But we need to work harder to reach the true conservatives, more moderate Republicans and Independents. Something Democrats and liberals need to do better is to push back against Republicans and not allow them to label us or define us. They use the terms wokeness, cancel culture, critical race theory, socialism, Marxism, communism etc as an attack because it’s effective. Defining the left as socialists instills fear of change and fear of the unknown in their base. And the GOP defines cancel culture as an attack on the values of their base. Republican politicians also count on their base not fully understanding what socialism, Marxism, critical race theory etc really are. I think Democrats need to work harder to get our message out there and define in clear, not elitist terms, exactly what we stand for. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 28, 2021 9:28:28 GMT
I acknowledged all of your points right here - twice in fact. Former’s suggestion to health officials to study the injection of bleach was stupid, reckless and dangerous. So dangerous that Clorox issued a warning.
He did claim that the numbers would somehow magically go from 15 to zero, a complete lie at the time. Even he knew it wasn’t true but all he cared about were his chances of re-election so he downplayed the seriousness of the virus.
And he wanted businesses back to fully open and packed churches on Easter.Telling officials to study injecting bleach vs telling people to inject bleach is irrelevant. Both are stupid, dangerous, reckless ideas. And the main point that you continue to ignore or disregard - Trump undermined confidence in the vaccine and is directly responsible for many of his supporters refusing the vaccine. If you want to talk facts, let’s talk about how you keep falsely claiming VP Harris said she didn’t trust the vaccine. The exact quote has been posted several times, but you keep ignoring it and repeating the falsehood. Biden & Harris distrusted former, not the vaccine. For someone who likes to scrutinize minute details, you ironically (and conveniently) overlook this major, significant detail. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/23/tiktok-posts/biden-harris-doubted-trump-covid-19-vaccines-not-v/If LindaS actually engaged instead of just liking posts or dropping bombs and not returning, I would not dismiss her. As far as why no one else agrees with you, we will have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, no one agrees with you because former is indefensible after he incited an insurrection, ignored and badly mishandled a pandemic and told more than 20,000 lies, the most dangerous one about the non existent election fraud. If LindaS actually engaged instead of just liking posts or dropping bombs and not returning, I would not dismiss her. Of course you would. Show one single post of yours disagreeing with a Trump supporter or even just someone on the other side of the aisle, that you didn't bulldoze over until they just gave up. Or that you didn't get the last word in about them being wrong and consider it settled when actually they just know it's futile to stand by their statement because it would end up like this. Just one. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 28, 2021 10:19:31 GMT
I acknowledged all of your points right here - twice in fact. Former’s suggestion to health officials to study the injection of bleach was stupid, reckless and dangerous. So dangerous that Clorox issued a warning.
He did claim that the numbers would somehow magically go from 15 to zero, a complete lie at the time. Even he knew it wasn’t true but all he cared about were his chances of re-election so he downplayed the seriousness of the virus.
And he wanted businesses back to fully open and packed churches on Easter.Telling officials to study injecting bleach vs telling people to inject bleach is irrelevant. Both are stupid, dangerous, reckless ideas. And the main point that you continue to ignore or disregard - Trump undermined confidence in the vaccine and is directly responsible for many of his supporters refusing the vaccine. If you want to talk facts, let’s talk about how you keep falsely claiming VP Harris said she didn’t trust the vaccine. The exact quote has been posted several times, but you keep ignoring it and repeating the falsehood. Biden & Harris distrusted former, not the vaccine. For someone who likes to scrutinize minute details, you ironically (and conveniently) overlook this major, significant detail. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/23/tiktok-posts/biden-harris-doubted-trump-covid-19-vaccines-not-v/If LindaS actually engaged instead of just liking posts or dropping bombs and not returning, I would not dismiss her. As far as why no one else agrees with you, we will have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, no one agrees with you because former is indefensible after he incited an insurrection, ignored and badly mishandled a pandemic and told more than 20,000 lies, the most dangerous one about the non existent election fraud. If LindaS actually engaged instead of just liking posts or dropping bombs and not returning, I would not dismiss her. Of course you would. Show one single post of yours disagreeing with a Trump supporter or even just someone on the other side of the aisle, that you didn't bulldoze over until they just gave up. Or that you didn't get the last word in about them being wrong and consider it settled when actually they just know it's futile to stand by their statement because it would end up like this. Just one. Oh come ON! You have no room to talk about wanting the last word.  |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 28, 2021 10:34:50 GMT
You are amazing pixiechick . You can take what people see and hear with their own eyes and ears and try to twist into something else. It's fascinating to watch the mental gymnastics you are willing to play with yourself. I watched all those press conferences. I read his words on Twitter. I see what his supporters are posting. You all need your heads examined because you're not dealing in reality. And that's as nice as I can be. That IS amazing. I show you where Politico showed for a fact he never said to drink or inject bleach. (those seem to be the ever interchangeable FALSE accusations) I show you in video his own words that he also didn't say it would be over by Easter. In fact he said the words "it's going to go on a long time." And you brain tells you that I'M the one twisting his words? Seriously, do some HONEST self reflection. And not just you. All the people that liked your post. There IS a reason why you essentially only have people on one side of the aisle talking here anymore. You need to get ahold of reality. It is a fact—trump himself on all major media outlets OPENLY DISCUSSED USING BLEACH AS A REMEDY. He might not have come right out and said “hey dumbass cult followers, please, oh please, start drinking bleach and you’ll be fine” (and there were followers who did) HOWEVER—he, as potus, a person who we are supposed to trust, 1000% absolutely was irresponsible, dangerous, lying, misleading, and gave shit tons of false information regarding the virus, the vaccine, and any remedy. Apparently, given your double down again here, you just might have been one of those who “drank the bleach” given that you are so hard pressed to defend the proven lies of the former, dumbass potus. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 28, 2021 10:44:40 GMT
You’re losing the bigger picture and missing the main point (maybe deliberately because there is no defense) with all of this scrutinizing of the details. I acknowledged all of your objections. Former’s suggestion to health officials to study the injection of bleach was stupid, reckless and dangerous. So dangerous that Clorox issued a warning. He did claim that the numbers would somehow magically go from 15 to zero, a complete lie at the time. Even he knew it wasn’t true but all he cared about were his chances of re-election so he downplayed the seriousness of the virus. And he wanted businesses back to fully open and packed churches on Easter. You can argue semantics all you want. Bottom line, he had stupid, reckless, dangerous ideas. He downplayed the seriousness of the virus, undermined science and undermined health experts, epidemiologists and doctors. The point that all of us are making, one that you refuse to acknowledge, is that Trump undermined confidence in the vaccine and is directly responsible for many of his supporters refusing the vaccine. If you had a balance scale with former one one side and VP Harris/ President Biden on the other, former’s side would be on the floor. All of Trump’s actions and words regarding covid undermined the vaccine. You can claim the left is twisting words all you want, accuse them of false accusations etc but the bottom line is that you are cherry picking, ignoring facts and details that don’t fit your narrative, making false premises, false comparisons, false equivalencies and gaslighting. The fact that no one has agreed with you (with the possible exception of LindaS who almost never has anything to actually contribute to political discussions) in terms of your claim that VP Harris undermined confidence in the vaccine is an indication that you’re flat out wrong. I acknowledged all of your objections. Where? You can argue semantics all you want. He did not say to drink bleach. That isn't semantics, it's a fact. The Left leaning Politico has stated that and has shown how and why it is not true. He did not say the virus will be over by Easter. It isn't semantics, it's a fact. Ask yourself why you won't just let that stand? Don't defend it, actually ask of yourself why you won't. Not Donald Trump. YOU. You know damn well if I had a fact wrong, you'd be all over it. That's indisputable anymore. The fact that no one has agreed with you (with the possible exception of LindaS who almost never has anything to actually contribute to political discussions) in terms of your claim that VP Harris undermined confidence in the vaccine is an indication that you’re flat out wrong. Your very statement here shows otherwise. The reason no one who might agree with anything I'm saying will say so is because they can see what it takes to even discuss facts. Even the one person who dared have any agreement with me is dismissed as meaningless. Who the hell wants to bother? The ONLY indication of why no one that may agree with me will say so, is this:
You dismiss anything but outright lockstep obedience in the accepted narrative. ORANGE MAN BAD. Or any version thereof. That's all you will allow to be said without bulldozing over it. If you can't even discuss proven facts without being bulldozed for saying them there is nothing worth saying to you. It's no longer an honest discussion. Stop trying to bulldoze over opposing view points and look at your OWN actions. Take a moment for your own HONEST self reflection. Heads up… ORANGE MAN IS BAD. Proven fact, over and over. You like to use those cute little phrases like “echo chamber” “lockstep” to diminish the facts that peas have posted. What’s hilarious that you seem to be so damn obtuse and ignorant about is that those who think “Orangeman is bad” are not programmed (like trump cultists) on lies snd misinformation, we’re in agreement that Orangeman is bad because it’s a PROVEN FACT, over and over. You twist yourself into word play, semantics, out of context statements to try to cram your lying narrative across. Because you know he’s a liar, full of disinformation , the biggest lying potus of all time and one of the absolute worst potus in history, you attempt to combat HIS lies, the Lies of the Republican Party, by telling those who can discern facts from his lies as being in “lockstep “ or an “echo chamber”. Use all the cute little words and phrases you want however NOTHING will change the fact that trump & the Republican Party (including YOU) have spread so many lies snd disinformation about Covid , election results, the Capitol insurrection. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 28, 2021 10:47:15 GMT
Of course you would. Show one single post of yours disagreeing with a Trump supporter or even just someone on the other side of the aisle, that you didn't bulldoze over until they just gave up. Or that you didn't get the last word in about them being wrong and consider it settled when actually they just know it's futile to stand by their statement because it would end up like this. Just one. Oh come ON! You have no room to talk about wanting the last word. It’s just one of the many of her tactics to try silence people. She thinks if she’s got the last word/no one responds, then it makes her right. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 28, 2021 10:51:36 GMT
You’re losing the bigger picture and missing the main point (maybe deliberately because there is no defense) with all of this scrutinizing of the details. I acknowledged all of your objections. Former’s suggestion to health officials to study the injection of bleach was stupid, reckless and dangerous. So dangerous that Clorox issued a warning. He did claim that the numbers would somehow magically go from 15 to zero, a complete lie at the time. Even he knew it wasn’t true but all he cared about were his chances of re-election so he downplayed the seriousness of the virus. And he wanted businesses back to fully open and packed churches on Easter. You can argue semantics all you want. Bottom line, he had stupid, reckless, dangerous ideas. He downplayed the seriousness of the virus, undermined science and undermined health experts, epidemiologists and doctors. The point that all of us are making, one that you refuse to acknowledge, is that Trump undermined confidence in the vaccine and is directly responsible for many of his supporters refusing the vaccine. If you had a balance scale with former one one side and VP Harris/ President Biden on the other, former’s side would be on the floor. All of Trump’s actions and words regarding covid undermined the vaccine. You can claim the left is twisting words all you want, accuse them of false accusations etc but the bottom line is that you are cherry picking, ignoring facts and details that don’t fit your narrative, making false premises, false comparisons, false equivalencies and gaslighting. The fact that no one has agreed with you (with the possible exception of LindaS who almost never has anything to actually contribute to political discussions) in terms of your claim that VP Harris undermined confidence in the vaccine is an indication that you’re flat out wrong. I acknowledged all of your objections. Where? You can argue semantics all you want. He did not say to drink bleach. That isn't semantics, it's a fact. The Left leaning Politico has stated that and has shown how and why it is not true. He did not say the virus will be over by Easter. It isn't semantics, it's a fact. Ask yourself why you won't just let that stand? Don't defend it, actually ask of yourself why you won't. Not Donald Trump. YOU. You know damn well if I had a fact wrong, you'd be all over it. That's indisputable anymore. The fact that no one has agreed with you (with the possible exception of LindaS who almost never has anything to actually contribute to political discussions) in terms of your claim that VP Harris undermined confidence in the vaccine is an indication that you’re flat out wrong. Your very statement here shows otherwise. The reason no one who might agree with anything I'm saying will say so is because they can see what it takes to even discuss facts. Even the one person who dared have any agreement with me is dismissed as meaningless. Who the hell wants to bother? The ONLY indication of why no one that may agree with me will say so, is this:
You dismiss anything but outright lockstep obedience in the accepted narrative. ORANGE MAN BAD. Or any version thereof. That's all you will allow to be said without bulldozing over it. If you can't even discuss proven facts without being bulldozed for saying them there is nothing worth saying to you. It's no longer an honest discussion. Stop trying to bulldoze over opposing view points and look at your OWN actions. Take a moment for your own HONEST self reflection. You’re not honest at all. Also proven that over snd over. Trump DID request to look at injecting disinfectants…White House staff and researchers confirmed it. www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/04/23/trump-bleach-one-year-484399And.. Here’s the full context: "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?" "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients. "It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object." It’s not clear what part of that discussion he was characterizing as a "sarcastic question" to reporters. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 28, 2021 15:02:39 GMT
Of course you would. Show one single post of yours disagreeing with a Trump supporter or even just someone on the other side of the aisle, that you didn't bulldoze over until they just gave up. Or that you didn't get the last word in about them being wrong and consider it settled when actually they just know it's futile to stand by their statement because it would end up like this. Just one. Oh come ON! You have no room to talk about wanting the last word. There's a gaping difference between defending your statements vs. being browbeaten into submission that you're wrong with pile-ons, statements that 'everyone agrees with me that you're wrong' 'no one will agree with you and anyone that does will be summarily dismissed'. Check the power balance. Hell, just read the very first page of this thread. It's filled with dismissals of opposing opinion before there are even any. Then watch what happens to the two other people that dared to have a differing viewpoint. One of them in particular had their words twisted into meaning what they did not mean in order to dismiss their viewpoints entirely. So, no. Defending my statements vs. browbeating me into conformity with the accepted narrative and group think. Two entirely different things. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 28, 2021 15:09:16 GMT
You’re not honest at all. Also proven that over snd over. Trump DID request to look at injecting disinfectants…White House staff and researchers confirmed it. www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/04/23/trump-bleach-one-year-484399And.. Here’s the full context: "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?" "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients. "It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object." It’s not clear what part of that discussion he was characterizing as a "sarcastic question" to reporters. Pixiechick, you are lying. You’ve been shown repeatedly Kamala Harris ‘s full statement, but you keep repeating the same falsehood. She said she didn’t trust former, not the vaccine. Proven fact that you bulldoze over and ignore. Accuse others of that which you are guilty - typical Republican playbook. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts. As far as Trump’s suggestion to study the injection of bleach - he has no one to blame but himself if those words have been misunderstood or misquoted. He spouted a bunch of nonsense - almost incoherent words just strung together. He can go back after the fact and claim he was joking or being sarcastic, but it doesn’t change his words. On national TV, he suggested studying the injection of bleach. You can believe the White House spin or not - most reasonable people don’t think he was being sarcastic. www.factcheck.org/2020/04/the-white-house-spins-trumps-disinfectant-remarks/And again studying the injection of bleach vs directly injecting is irrelevant. If you study it, someone still has to be injected with it. People did try drinking bleach and Clorox even took the extreme step of warning people to not drink, ingest or inject it. I can’t believe you continue to defend his stupid, moronic, reckless, careless, dangerous idea. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 28, 2021 15:13:02 GMT
Oh come ON! You have no room to talk about wanting the last word. There's a gaping difference between defending your statements vs. being browbeaten into submission that you're wrong with pile-ons, statements that 'everyone agrees with me that you're wrong' 'no one will agree with you and anyone that does will be summarily dismissed'. Check the power balance. Hell, just read the very first page of this thread. It's filled with dismissals of opposing opinion before there are even any. Then watch what happens to the two other people that dared to have a differing viewpoint. One of them in particular had their words twisted into meaning what they did not mean in order to dismiss their viewpoints entirely. So, no. Defending my statements vs. browbeating me into conformity with the accepted narrative and group think. Two entirely different things. Okay, you win.  And now for the last word-by Pixiechick… |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 15:17:47 GMT
being browbeaten into submission that you're wrong with pile-ons aka - being confronted w/facts by peas who check the facts and post them. Facts - Ick!! |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 28, 2021 15:25:35 GMT
Oh come ON! You have no room to talk about wanting the last word. There's a gaping difference between defending your statements vs. being browbeaten into submission that you're wrong with pile-ons, statements that 'everyone agrees with me that you're wrong' 'no one will agree with you and anyone that does will be summarily dismissed'. Check the power balance. Hell, just read the very first page of this thread. It's filled with dismissals of opposing opinion before there are even any. Then watch what happens to the two other people that dared to have a differing viewpoint. One of them in particular had their words twisted into meaning what they did not mean in order to dismiss their viewpoints entirely. So, no. Defending my statements vs. browbeating me into conformity with the accepted narrative and group think. Two entirely different things. What a drama queen. No one is “browbeating you into conformity”, they are simply disagreeing with you. Although there comes a point where both sides are dug in and no minds will be changed that it’s time to walk away. I think we have reached that point. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 28, 2021 16:03:11 GMT
You’re not honest at all. Also proven that over snd over. Trump DID request to look at injecting disinfectants…White House staff and researchers confirmed it. www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/04/23/trump-bleach-one-year-484399And.. Here’s the full context: "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?" "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients. "It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object." It’s not clear what part of that discussion he was characterizing as a "sarcastic question" to reporters. Pixiechick, you are lying. You’ve been shown repeatedly Kamala Harris ‘s full statement, but you keep repeating the same falsehood. She said she didn’t trust former, not the vaccine. Proven fact that you bulldoze over and ignore. Accuse others of that which you are guilty - typical Republican playbook. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts. As far as Trump’s suggestion to study the injection of bleach - he has no one to blame but himself if those words have been misunderstood or misquoted. He spouted a bunch of nonsense - almost incoherent words just strung together. He can go back after the fact and claim he was joking or being sarcastic, but it doesn’t change his words. On national TV, he suggested studying the injection of bleach. You can believe the White House spin or not - most reasonable people don’t think he was being sarcastic. www.factcheck.org/2020/04/the-white-house-spins-trumps-disinfectant-remarks/And again studying the injection of bleach vs directly injecting is irrelevant. If you study it, someone still has to be injected with it. People did try drinking bleach and Clorox even took the extreme step of warning people to not drink, ingest or inject it. I can’t believe you continue to defend his stupid, moronic, reckless, careless, dangerous idea. Pixiechick, you are lying. You’ve been shown repeatedly Kamala Harris ‘s full statement, but you keep repeating the same falsehood. She said she didn’t trust former, not the vaccine. Proven fact that you bulldoze over and ignore. bottom of first post. I'm not ignoring it, I just come to a different conclusion than you. I'm also not lying, I'm following YOUR line of logic and applying YOUR standards to both of them. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts. Same applies to you, see above. As far as Trump’s suggestion to study the injection of bleach - he has no one to blame but himself if those words have been misunderstood or misquoted. I agree. But the words ARE being misunderstood and misquoted. He spouted a bunch of nonsense - almost incoherent words just strung together. Imagine that. Imagine any other president doing such a thing. You can believe the White House spin or not - I got my info from the Left of center Politico. Not the White House. People did try drinking bleach Who? Link please. I can’t believe you continue to defend his stupid, moronic, reckless, careless, dangerous idea. Disagreeing with misinformation is not defending his stupidity. Don't conflate the two. If LindaS actually engaged instead of just liking posts or dropping bombs and not returning, I would not dismiss her. Of course you would. Show one single post of yours disagreeing with a Trump supporter or even just someone on the other side of the aisle, that you didn't bulldoze over until they just gave up. Or that you didn't get the last word in about them being wrong and consider it settled when actually they just know it's futile to stand by their statement because it would end up like this. Just one. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 28, 2021 16:04:02 GMT
I will never understand why anyone argues with an obviously mentally unstable person. Dixiechick is ill and it is almost cruel to feed into that disturbed mind by arguing with it. Nothing she says makes sense and it never will. It is not like it is important to correct her delusions, she doesn't care and no one believes anything she says anyway.
What is the point? It derails threads and the longer she gets the attention she craves the longer she will ramp up and hang around spreading her delusions.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 28, 2021 16:14:27 GMT
Nothing she says makes sense and it never will. It is not like it is important to correct her delusions, she doesn't care and no one believes anything she says anyway. What is the point? It derails threads and the longer she gets the attention she craves the longer she will ramp up and hang around spreading her delusions. yeah, that. |
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 28, 2021 18:22:43 GMT
And there you have it. In case anyone doubted the fact that you must conform to the group narrative here... even their own sources from the Left are unacceptable if they don't parrot the narrative here. You must conform to the group, you can never defend your position, you must never bring attention to the fact that a claim they make doesn't hold up to scrutiny, you must stop talking when declared wrong, or failing any of that,, you will be declared mentally ill for not bowing down. Gee, I can't imagine why almost no one on the right ever bothers to chime in here anymore.  |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 29, 2021 1:46:12 GMT
And there you have it. In case anyone doubted the fact that you must conform to the group narrative here... even their own sources from the Left are unacceptable if they don't parrot the narrative here. You must conform to the group, you can never defend your position, you must never bring attention to the fact that a claim they make doesn't hold up to scrutiny, you must stop talking when declared wrong, or failing any of that,, you will be declared mentally ill for not bowing down. Gee, I can't imagine why almost no one on the right ever bothers to chime in here anymore. Typical trumpy trump rhetoric. Gia never disappoints. Gets a dose the hypocrisy of what she dishes, then gets all butt hurt when other peas point out every single one of her falsehoods. |
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And now for the last word-by Pixiechick… 
