SCOTUS Functionally Overturns Row vs Wade

here is the interview I heard yesterday on the Joy Reid show... she interviewed Frank Shaeffer, who helped found the evangelical wing of the pro-life movement in the 1970s-80,with his father. It was a really enlightening interview about the beginnings of that movement and how it led to this happening.  (and I agree with one of the guests on Chris Hayes-  Biden and Schumer are, and have been, too milk-toast moderate for this kind of thing-- I'm getting really sick of the 'high road, wait and see' attitude that Democrats are 'supposed to' take.  We're not going to have a democracy left even BEFORE the mid-terms at this rate.)  

I don't have a problem with those who are against abortion. I have a problem with those who want to force their values/ beliefs on other women. They are sick fucks.

Lots of women are going to die along with the fetus they are trying to abort. Abortion will never be stopped.

Lysistrata, baby.

Let's GO! If I were a woman in TX and my husband/boyfriend/SO was anti-abortion, you bet your ASS I would be in.

I just read this, and it gave me a bit of hope. The author, David Frum, is a never-Trumper. I disagree with him frequently, but here he thinks that maybe Texas politicians have made a mistake. I hope that he is right.


www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/texas-republicans-abortion-ban-backfire/619956/

So frustrating. War on women continues.

They claims they want their "freedoms", but keep passing laws and mandates that do exactly the opposite. Hypocrites is the nicest way I can think of saying it.

I hope he's right, too.  Thank you for sharing. I think this is a really important quote from the article - it shows exactly how calculating the Republicans have been with their voter suppression bills.

History never repeats itself. But there’s already compelling evidence that Texas Republicans understand how detested their new abortion law will soon be—not only in New York City and Los Angeles, but also in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, and Fort Worth. They took the precaution of preceding the nation’s most restrictive abortion law with one of the nation’s most suppressive voting laws. It’s as if they could foresee what Texas would do to them if all qualified Texans could vote. But the Texas voting law only impedes voting; it does not prevent it. The 2020 election showed that voter suppression can only do so much to protect a sufficiently unpopular incumbent.

In the off-year elections of 2014, Republicans won a huge victory. In 2018, they suffered a huge defeat. The crucial difference was turnout: 2014 saw the lowest turnout since 1942; 2018 saw the highest in a nonpresidential year since before World War I. The moral of the story would seem to be that Republicans do best when the electorate is satisfied and quiet; they face disaster when the electorate is mobilized and angry. Texas Republicans have just bet their political future in a rapidly diversifying and urbanizing state on a gambit: cultural reaction plus voter suppression. The eyes of Texas will be upon them indeed. The eyes of the nation will be upon them too.

David Frum is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy (2020). In 2001 and 2002, he was a speechwriter for President George W. Bush.
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Beau of the 5th Column had an interesting video. He basically said the law won't be effective, but that wasn't the intent. The intent was to give a group of judgmental people someone to look down on and someone to judge.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oADVHiFayGU

And here's a lighter, more entertaining video. I love the last line - because f*ck them

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0oOY2dA2oM

crimsoncat05, thanks, but I didn't have to make a decision like that. I work for an organization that provides support to families who experience the loss of a baby any time during pregnancy or as a newborn. We have FB closed groups and online support groups, and one of them is for parents who have terminated a pregnancy because of a fatal diagnosis. This subject is just close to my heart, and I am very passionate about it. 

And Stephen King is from Maine. I imagine his opinion may carry some weight there.

a friend of mine had terminated a pregnancy as the fetus had severe spina bifida, a condition not diagnosed until much further along then 6 weeks. she was anti-abortion (very catholic) but was told by the doctor the pregnancy likely would not go full term, if it did baby would likely die within a very short time period. there was very little chance baby would live but on the off chance she did, she would be severely disabled. if my friend went thru with the pregnancy, due to complications, she may not be able to have a child again.

so by this definition, she would would have to continue on with a pregnancy?? this is *beyond* messed up.

I agree.  I posted a poll here awhile back (I think before ACB was nominated to the SC) and if I remember correctly, an overwhelming majority or Democrats AND Republicans reported that they did not want Roe V Wade overturned.