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Post by gar on Nov 23, 2021 14:51:11 GMT
Good point sueg. The lucky ones will survive. |
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 23, 2021 14:53:45 GMT
www.npr.org/2021/11/22/1056238770/covid-delta-unvaccinated-higher-health-insurance-premiumsCompanies are telling unvaccinated workers to pay more for health insuranceOne employer is trying a different tactic. Mercyhealth, which has more than 7,000 employees at hospitals and clinics in Wisconsin and Illinois, introduced what it called a "risk pool fee," instead of higher health care premiums. Since mid-October, unvaccinated employees have had $60 deducted from their wages each month to go into this pool.
In a memo to employees, Mercyhealth compared the fee to 16-year-old drivers having to pay more for auto insurance to cover the heightened risks they present as new drivers.
Alen Brcic, Mercyhealth's vice president of people and culture, says $60 per month is a nominal amount, even symbolic. Mercyhealth still bears most of the costs when someone misses work or is hospitalized because of Covid.
But after the policy was announced in September, the vaccination rate among the health system's employees rose to 91% from around 70%, according to Brcic. And this is the correct way to encourage folks to get vaccinated. Don’t get it if you don’t want to. But in case you don’t, get Covid and incur very expensive hospital bills, you are going to pay higher premiums. It’s fair because there is no reason why the rest of us should have our premiums be higher just because you-general you- refused to get vaccinated. It’s a logical consequence. When there’s a widely available free vaccine, if you choose not to get it, everyone else should not have to pay for your $20,000 Regeneron treatments and tens of thousands of dollars in hospital bills. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 14:57:47 GMT
The German Health Minister (I believe) has said that "By Spring everyone will either be vaccinated, recovered or dead." No beating around the bush there!! Yes, it was Jens Spähn, the Health minister. He has said in the past few weeks that with Delta around and the rate at which our infection rate skyrocketed a couple of weeks ago, that he believed there was no escaping getting Covid if you weren't vaccinated. He was NOT saying, as some people inferred, that all the unvaxxed would die, just that they would most probably get infected, and therefore would count among the 'recovered' if they survived. I was a bit  when I read how some had interpreted it that way. What he said was true. What bothers me is that the higher the infection the more likely this damn virus will mutate and in turn there is a bigger risk that the vaccines we have now are not going to be as effective to the new mutation. God help us all if that happens. It's very annoying that some have done exactly what we ( general we) should have done and yet we have the possibility that it will all be in vain and we'll be back to Feb/March 2020 unless these unvaxxed people manage to find some common sense from somewhere. |
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Post by gar on Nov 23, 2021 15:01:44 GMT
That's my biggest fear too @dottyscrapper. Large numbers of unvaxxed people and no social distancing are the perfect ingredients for mutations  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 15:24:29 GMT
That's my biggest fear too @dottyscrapper . Large numbers of unvaxxed people and no social distancing are the perfect ingredients for mutations Frightening thought. I've just looked at this past week-end's figures just for comparison There were 96 deaths recorded in the UK over the week end that were within 28 days of them testing positive for Covid Compare that to the same week-end last year before vaccinations started and the number is 1,404 for the same three days. Yet, people still don't believe that the vaccines save lives. I'm just totally baffled why people would play Russian Roulette with their lives, it's just crazy! |
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Post by sassyangel on Nov 23, 2021 17:43:07 GMT
And this is the correct way to encourage folks to get vaccinated. Don’t get it if you don’t want to. But in case you don’t, get Covid and incur very expensive hospital bills, you are going to pay higher premiums. It’s fair because there is no reason why the rest of us should have our premiums be higher just because you-general you- refused to get vaccinated. It’s a logical consequence. When there’s a widely available free vaccine, if you choose not to get it, everyone else should not have to pay for your $20,000 Regeneron treatments and tens of thousands of dollars in hospitals bills. And as someone who works for one, the longer this pandemic continues - things like this *will* become the norm. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2021 19:11:00 GMT
Just overheard on TV.. Unvaxxed risk of dieing is now 14 times Vs vaxxed.!!
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 23, 2021 21:32:24 GMT
Biden said that he would not do mandates. He said it wasn't necessary and he set a goal of 70% vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity to be safe. 60–70% is what's needed to reach herd immunity. We surpassed that a while ago. So they changed the FACT that we DID hit percentage needed, by adding in children to the vaccine rates. That didn't change the percentage needed to reach herd immunity. It DID change the "percentage reached" in order to "justify" mandate under threat of your job. Or threat of participating in society. That's not science, that's tyranny. The vaccine mandate was set to go into effect in January. Leaving the unvaccinated to be unvaccinated for 2 more months so businesses wouldn't be affected during the holidays. It's so important to be vaccinated in order to protect everyone, but not important enough to stop the unvaccinated from shopping and "putting the vaccinated at risk". That's not safety. That's not science. The vaccine mandate doesn't require businesses under 99 employees to require the oh so required vaccine. If you have a business with under 99 employees, they won't get or spread covid? Thats not safety. That's not science. Of all the leaders telling us how important it is to continue to wear a mask and mandating everyone else do so, why are so many of them being caught in situations where they don't follow the rules? Still. Over a year later. That's not safety. I'll just repeat what I said and I removed the last sentence since it's so confusing for some. |
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when I read how some had interpreted it that way. What he said was true.
