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Post by peajays on Nov 1, 2021 11:32:48 GMT
I work in a bank branch with 3 people who will not vaccinate. 1 is a trump supporting anti vax propaganda spewing idiot, the other because her husband has the same views as employee number 1, and the 3rd is a naturalist holistic type. I’ve been stewing about the repercussions for a while now…..#1 I ‘Think’ will be out of a job effective today because he won’t test with Chinese kits. #2 is getting an exemption because she will test 2x’s a week. #3 I have no idea.
there are times when I’m required to work in closed office doors with all 3 when we open/close and other odd things where we are required to share computers for brief moments. I also book appointments for #2 and #3 to do routine banking appointments in the offices with clients with closed doors. How can I book clients with new babies, or elderly clients coming in for powers of attorney and the list goes on…and keep my mouth closed? I won’t even visit unvaxxed family for gods sake!
We are in the process of getting a new manager, not likely to start for at least 2 weeks. I’m going to try to discuss my concerns with my direct supervisor, but I feel it may fall on deaf or incompetent ears. I hate confrontation, it gives me anxiety. But when I see if #1 leaves after his hr meeting today, I’ll speak my piece.
wish me luck
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Post by peasapie on Nov 1, 2021 11:35:13 GMT
It’s a crazy world right now. I’m so sick of ignorance around us.
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Post by elaine on Nov 1, 2021 11:36:15 GMT
Good luck! I honestly don’t understand not getting the vaccine - there is a wealth of science behind it.
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Post by peabay on Nov 1, 2021 11:50:59 GMT
I’d be double masking around them.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 1, 2021 12:03:30 GMT
Wishing you well.
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Post by casii on Nov 1, 2021 13:11:45 GMT
I feel badly for you and other people in similar situations playing out right now all over the world. It seems that the USA has the lead on ignorance though. I hope your work does the right thing. It's not just about those 3 employees; it's about the entirety of the workforce as well as the responsibility to your customers who entrust you not only with their money, but massive life decisions. The good of the many trumps the ignorance of a few.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 1, 2021 13:16:29 GMT
I would be tempted to tell clients thst they will be meeting with an unvaxxed asshole and let them choose if they want to expose themselves.
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Post by wordfish on Nov 1, 2021 13:21:27 GMT
I think people are going to mostly initially protest and then STFU and quietly get vaccinated. Maybe with some justification grumbling about being forced into it. It’s so uncool that these idiots are behaving in this way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 14:32:05 GMT
It’s a crazy world right now. I’m so sick of ignorance around us. We have bred generations (esp. the last two or three) to believe "my beliefs are as valid as your facts".
We are living in the outcome of that idiocy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 14:33:55 GMT
I wish you much luck in this and all your endeavors.
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Post by paget on Nov 1, 2021 14:39:26 GMT
Our work’s deadline was 10/18. I work for the state. I was surprised how many people left/were “separated from employment.” We kept getting emails to whole staff saying so and so’s last day was 10/18 please email their supervisor if you need anything. Testing was not an option. You either had to get the vaccine or apply for an exception - and those were rare due to most jobs having some public facing component in some way.
I would not be thrilled to work closely with non vaccinated people. Even though we are all vaccinated now we still must wear masks if we are at the office.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 1, 2021 14:55:58 GMT
Hasn’t heard that they don’t want to use a test from China before. That’s a new one. I have some of the Abbott self tests and opened the box and the part that goes in your nose is made in the USA. Not sure of the other components but it is clearly labeled. Nothing on the outside states where it is made probably because different parts are made in different places but the part that touches your body is made in the USA.
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Post by oh yvonne on Nov 1, 2021 15:41:10 GMT
oh Peajays I hate that you are having to deal with this? Five million people dead and these ridiculous sheep won't vax. I hope something can be done to ensure your safety, sweet lady. Keep us updated on what they do.
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Post by frankiegirl on Nov 1, 2021 16:36:27 GMT
I work at a Children's Hospital. Today starts the day that either you are vaccinated or you test 1-2 times a week. People are already asking for exemptions from testing. No from the vaccine but from testing. Not only that but people stand outside and protest the vaccine or testing mandate. It's a children's hospital for goodness sakes. So those who are out there holding up signs (and having children hold up signs that are bigger than them) may one day need services for their own children. But they stand there and yell and encourage people to honk. Outside of a Children's hospital. Where sick children are trying to get better. Or die in peace. Oh, and we have police officers who refuse to wear a mask when coming into our hospital. They say it is not their protocol. Um, but it's the hospital protocol. It gets harder and harder to even try and understand people.
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Post by peajays on Nov 1, 2021 17:20:50 GMT
Well that was a colossal waste of my time. I spoke with my supervisor who encouraged me to call HR as she didn’t know much about the ‘what next’ steps. My #1 coworkers meeting was mysteriously cancelled. Turns out our company still hasn’t received the testing kits. When I spoke to hr about this I flat out said ‘why are they still here then!?! If they can’t test they shouldn’t be here , period! I got transferred and put on hold so many times, I gave up. But I won’t have to open/close 1on1 with him so that’s a small win
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 8, 2021 21:28:48 GMT
oh Peajays I hate that you are having to deal with this? Five million people dead and these ridiculous sheep won't vax. I hope something can be done to ensure your safety, sweet lady. Keep us updated on what they do. Do people actually still believe the vaccine is keeping them from spreading and catching COVID? Geez people, do your research. The vaccine helps YOU, and only you, with symptoms. You, being vaccinated, can give COVID to anyone. The vaccine does NOT keep anyone from catching it, or spreading it. The idiocy of this thread is greatly disturbing, if this is what a majority of the people believe. That is not true. You are less likely to catch COVID if you are vaccinated, which also means you are less likely to spread COVID than a non-vaccinated person. OP, I am sorry you are dealing with this. I feel very fortunate that my work took this SUPER SERIOUSLY and mandated vaccines (before the state mandated them anyway for educators).
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Post by Lexica on Nov 8, 2021 21:36:51 GMT
I think people are going to mostly initially protest and then STFU and quietly get vaccinated. Maybe with some justification grumbling about being forced into it. It’s so uncool that these idiots are behaving in this way. I know someone who has been spouting all the typical antivaxer's jargon. She will be required to get a vaccination if she wants to keep her job. I don't know what her deadline date is, but she has been whining about the pressure and making a decision as to whether to get it or quit working there. I think that she secretly wants to get it but has made such a stink about being against it that she feels she can't just cave in and admit that she was wrong. I think the fact that she can say she was forced, kicking and screaming all the way, will allow her to save face while going ahead and getting it. How stupid is that? She can't just come out and say that after researching and giving it consideration, she has decided to trust science. I know it doesn't matter as long as she gets vaccinated, but it just bothers me that she would rather blame being forced instead of saying she changed her mind. I am so over people like this. I know I posted previously that my own son hadn't been vaccinated and I've had my 3rd. I don't know if that situation has changed or not. I decided not to ask him anymore. It just made me frustrated and sad so we went with the agree to disagree pact. I really wish that if he has been, he would be considerate enough to send me a text to let me stop being concerned about it. Sigh.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 8, 2021 21:41:05 GMT
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Post by PLurker on Nov 8, 2021 21:44:21 GMT
Good luck! I honestly don’t understand not getting the vaccine - there is a wealth of science behind it. BuT iT CaMe tOo fASt! NOt enoUgH TesTs and TriALs! - say some of the same people who take critter dewormer stuff
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Post by buggirl47 on Nov 8, 2021 21:50:07 GMT
I feel sorry for those who think getting vaccinated you are safe. You can still get the virus, still carry the virus and still die from the virus. So why not everyone still wear masks for ever or until every variant of COVID passes. I have my reasons not to be vaccinated and I did get covid at the beginning of this pandemic. My parents are still unvaccinated and were out every day but still take precautions. My nephew almost died from it at 32. No one is safe (vaccinated or not, young or old, etc). But the fact is this has torn apart our nation and that infuriates me. The fact that people aren't seeing others have choices is crazy. I don't walk in others shoes so do not want to push my thoughts or actions on them. If I have done my research and made an informed decision for my body why would someone deny me the right to live my life and if I die because i didn't get the vaccine, i accept that decision. If I believe I could die getting the vaccine, why would someone else's fear be higher then my own fear of injecting something into my body that I feel could possibly kill me? Why isn't my fear accepted and acknowledged and I have the right to not put anything in my body i don't want to. How many of you took the vaccine for work, travel, going into restaurants, because your doctor told you to? What is in the vaccine? do you know all the ingredients and side effects? what does the clinical studies actually show? I did my research and no thank you. I have an exemption and I hope I do not lose my job over a freedom i have. I will tell you I do take it seriously enough to purchase 2 tests a week. I believe that is the only way out of this whole thing. if I get vaccinated and still pass or carry the virus, am i not dangerous to my neighbor or person at a grocery store in line? I feel like if I can test and be negative, then i know i am not carrying it and passing it to others. It is more than just a shot. It is removing my right as a human.
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Post by buggirl47 on Nov 8, 2021 21:52:44 GMT
also, for those who do believe in the vaccine, yet believe everyone has a right on what is injected into their body, i wonder what is next. what freedom of yours will be removed if you do not get the boosters every 6 months? do you know the ingredients in each of those? Has anyone had blood work done after vaccines? I would love to see the blood work. no one I talk to has presented me their blood work after the vaccines. I would love to have an open honest conversation without attacking but I find most cannot do this who are against those who choose to not get vaccinated for their own decision/health.
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Post by buggirl47 on Nov 8, 2021 21:57:07 GMT
These are the tests I use and test 2 times a week. Just because I am going to be around people every day. I don't care if I was vacc or not i would continue to do this to keep others safe. Hasn’t heard that they don’t want to use a test from China before. That’s a new one. I have some of the Abbott self tests and opened the box and the part that goes in your nose is made in the USA. Not sure of the other components but it is clearly labeled. Nothing on the outside states where it is made probably because different parts are made in different places but the part that touches your body is made in the USA.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 8, 2021 22:00:51 GMT
also, for those who do believe in the vaccine, yet believe everyone has a right on what is injected into their body, i wonder what is next. what freedom of yours will be removed if you do not get the boosters every 6 months? do you know the ingredients in each of those? Has anyone had blood work done after vaccines? I would love to see the blood work. no one I talk to has presented me their blood work after the vaccines. I would love to have an open honest conversation without attacking but I find most cannot do this who are against those who choose to not get vaccinated for their own decision/health. I've had bloodwork after getting vaccinated. What specifically are you looking at? I agree it is your choice. totally. But does that belief belong to everyone's bodies? or just yours? so everyone else has the right to decide also, correct? I'm fully vaccinated, except for my booster. I was exposed 2 wks ago at work, and got COVID, from an UNvaccinated pt. His wife was vaccinated. He died today. I'm fully recovered and going back to work wednesday. His wife is also fully recovered, and now planning a funeral.
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Post by buggirl47 on Nov 8, 2021 22:00:59 GMT
thank you. I have done my research on CDC and other sites an agree. I find it funny as Trump supports the vaccinations. So why would his supporters be anti-vaxx. When it comes down to something that others believe is forced on them, they will see what we are saying. Our country is going under so fast and our freedoms are going away so fast and everyone is okay with this. I even talked to many medical staff who are for vacc yet believe it is a person's right what is injected into their bodies. One nurse is going to lose her job as she wont' get vacc as she lost her hearing from getting covid a year ago and is under 28 years old. she is afraid it will do worse if she gets the vacc and she works in the ER department so she sees it all. she says it is equal on who is coming into the hospital of vacc and unvacc with covid. that is something media wont tell us. they hide the facts. I know over 5 states where nurses are telling me similar stories. You do know right, that the vaccine does NOT prevent spread. You, being vaccinated, can give COVID to the other employees, at the exact same rate that they can give it to you. Check it out on the CDC website. It only helps YOU, and your symptoms. So why do you care what they’re doing? My kids are all vaccinated with their needed vacs. I just took my college freshman son for his meningitis vaccine. I am not opposed to anyone who wants to get the vax, but I strongly believe we should all get to choose whether or not to have an experimental drug inserted into our body. You may agree with the Covid vaccine, but one day soon, there will be something the government will try to force you to do, that you will NOT agree with. If we all cave to these mandates now, it will be too late then to make a choice. Whether you believe in taking the vaccine or not, everyone should be concerned about this. Also, I did NOT vote for Trump. Please stop insinuating that anyone who doesn’t want to take an experimental drug without their consent is either a Trump fanatic or a hippie. 🙄
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Post by DEX on Nov 8, 2021 22:02:20 GMT
I find it interesting that those who do not want the government interfering with what they put in their body are the same folks (general folks) who want to prevent a woman from having dominion over her own body by preventing a woman's choice to have an abortion.
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Post by buggirl47 on Nov 8, 2021 22:03:02 GMT
funny how many of you have stated pretty horrible things. unvaxx are assholes,ignorant, selfish, etc. Isn't that interesting. I do not say bad about those vaccinated. my family and close friends are vacicnated. but I do believe as most of them that it is a personal medical decision that each person must make an informed consent based on their research/medical state/record. I would be tempted to tell clients thst they will be meeting with an unvaxxed asshole and let them choose if they want to expose themselves.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 8, 2021 22:05:43 GMT
thank you. I have done my research on CDC and other sites an agree. I find it funny as Trump supports the vaccinations. So why would his supporters be anti-vaxx. When it comes down to something that others believe is forced on them, they will see what we are saying. Our country is going under so fast and our freedoms are going away so fast and everyone is okay with this. I even talked to many medical staff who are for vacc yet believe it is a person's right what is injected into their bodies. One nurse is going to lose her job as she wont' get vacc as she lost her hearing from getting covid a year ago and is under 28 years old. she is afraid it will do worse if she gets the vacc and she works in the ER department so she sees it all. she says it is equal on who is coming into the hospital of vacc and unvacc with covid. that is something media wont tell us. they hide the facts. I know over 5 states where nurses are telling me similar stories. That simple is not true. Unvaccinated are 75% more hospitalized and in ICU then vaccinated. I work it, I see and live it. I think the media you are listening to is the one thats telling you misinformation, or the person slanted info. A ER nurse would have no idea what is going on in ICU, or how people are or are not recovering from COVID or long haulers. I am so sad at all the misinformation that is spread by conservatives to justify their beliefs. VS hard facts and science. What other freedoms are being taken away exactly? and do you live in south Dakota? LOL
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 8, 2021 22:06:55 GMT
thank you. I have done my research on CDC and other sites an agree. I find it funny as Trump supports the vaccinations. So why would his supporters be anti-vaxx. IDK, can you tell us?
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Post by Sarah*H on Nov 8, 2021 22:19:39 GMT
That is not true. You are less likely to catch COVID if you are vaccinated, which also means you are less likely to spread COVID than a non-vaccinated person. OP, I am sorry you are dealing with this. I feel very fortunate that my work took this SUPER SERIOUSLY and mandated vaccines (before the state mandated them anyway for educators). They did think this in the early days of the vaccine. It’s been disproven, and is on the CDC website. Also, children have a 99.998% survival rate against COVID. That, or an experimental vaccine? Come on people. Please know that ALL of us get enough of this ridiculous, nonsensical, anti-science claptrap on social media and in our real lives. Whatever you have chosen to tell yourself about the vaccine, its efficacy, how and why Covid spreads and whether the survival rate of one age group is a useful metric for anything, we don't need you, some random person on the internet, to "educate" us.
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 8, 2021 22:25:41 GMT
funny how many of you have stated pretty horrible things. unvaxx are assholes,ignorant, selfish, etc. Isn't that interesting. I do not say bad about those vaccinated. This has got to be one of the funniest things I've read here. Of course you don't say anything bad about those who are vaccinated, because IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO! What "bad thing" could you possibly say to people who are vaccinated? "Oh you pathetic, weak fool, how dare you get vaccinated to help keep yourself and your family and the general public safe?! Why won't you think about the rest of us who are prepared to DIE and to take other people out with us!"
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