Michigan Peas - everyone's kids safe?

Regardless, both parents should be permanently sterilized.

I am at my hair appointment right now in downtown Oxford. I’m so angry right now. This tragedy was so preventable, on several levels.

There is at least one more. I saw a report mentioning an 18 year old half or step brother. The dad was also recently in trouble in Florida for child support. I don’t know if that was for the 18 year old from when he was a minor, or if there is another minor child in Florida. 

Prosecuter McDonald needs the support of the peas!

Kids get suspended for stupid shit all the time... why not suspend them for this? Maybe it varies from state to state but a kid in my son's grade was just suspended for three days for calling a teacher a bitch. This kid's issues certainly were worse. 

I also think this particular student might have just moved the shooting from the hallways to the entrance court at either morning or afternoon bell if he'd been kicked out.

They have souls now so when they are murdered they go to heaven.

As someone who had a kid at a high school that was happy to suspend and expel kids (which I do not favor), when the school had a similar issue (kid who was posting a ton about guns and enemies on social media), the school did the exact same thing -- called in the kid and the parents, and when the parents said the kid was fine and the kid said he didn't mean it, did nothing.

Maybe more will come out, but my read here is that the parents and kid persuaded the school he wasn't serious and wasn't a danger.  I don't think that the school disciplinary policy -- whatever it was -- probably even mattered.

We're only a day away from people advocating that students at school arm themselves.

That's the whole thing, though - hindsight is 20/20.  I cannot tell you how many kids I've had concerns about over the years - kids who draw very disturbing pictures, make violent threats, etc. So far, none of them has ever shot up a school. And suspending them wouldn't have done anything.

I'm not at all saying the school did the right thing in this case or that we can't do more. A lot of schools, mine included, would have gotten a counselor and social worker involved at the point of first concern. Admin is rarely equipped to determine whether what a student says/does is a real concern or a cry for help.

Because we usually don't and can't know ahead of time which students pose a serious threat, to me, the answer is to charge every parent whose child brings a family-purchased firearm to school and/or uses it to shoot someone (and where no laws exist to allow this, make those laws). A kid who doesn't have access to a gun can't shoot anyone, plain and simple. 

The schools cannot be where the buck stops in preventing school shootings. It has to be on the people who provide kids with guns in the first place. 

In my city alone, there have been two students apprehended in school with loaded firearms just this week. Fortunately, no one was injured. But those parents should IMO be charged with something and have a price to pay. (They won't, because Texas, but they should be.)

It seems the parents are on the lam..

In my district several years ago a kid was sent home for bringing a Lego minifig gun to school.

I cannot believe this kid was not sent home, but I don't imagine it would have changed what happened.

100% agree. The parents are definitely the ones to be accountable here. When there are massively terrible parents like these, though... it just feels like there should be *some* backstop at the school or somewhere to protect the rest of the school. But I'm also not one who supports on-campus police and other crap like that, so I don't know what the answer is. Well, actual meaningful gun reform is the best answer, but... sigh.

We have monthly drills, they alternate between outside threat and inside threat. Horrible to have to gently explain to the 3 and 4 year olds what we are practicing.