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Post by sassyangel on Jan 11, 2022 3:35:02 GMT
Are you still believing that lie?  If you think it's wrong to use Ivermectin because it has a veterinary application, then may I suggest you discontinue use of antibiotics like amoxicillin, antidepressants such as Prozac, pain medication like tramadol, various chemotherapy drugs, certain thyroid-control medications, and prednisone. "Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19" pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34466270/"Ivermectin: an award-winning drug with expected antiviral activity against COVID-19" www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/Hmm, let's see... Amoxicillin - used as an antibiotic in both humans and animals Prozac - used as an antidepressant and for anxiety in humans, used for anxiety in animals Tramadol - used for pain relief in both humans and animals Prednisone - used as an anti-inflammatory in both humans and animals Ivermectin - not cleared for use in humans, used as a HORSE DEWORMER in animals Do you see the flaw in your argument? To be fair it is cleared for use in humans to combat some parasites like scabies, etc. NOTE: A VIRUS IS NOT A PARASITE. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 11, 2022 3:40:02 GMT
Ivermecten is also used as an ingredient in at least one topical medication. I do NOT take amoxicillin!! Yes, also for rosacea topically, I think. NOTE: Rosacea is not a virus either. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 11, 2022 5:41:30 GMT
I heard urine is a new breakthrough cure…. I read that some anti-vaxer is urging his followers to drink urine. I initially thought that it was a joke. It seems that it is true.  |
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Post by muggins on Jan 11, 2022 9:27:15 GMT
So is alitheia an old trump supporting pea returning with a new pea name? 16 posts, shit and run, leaving other deplorables to clean up the mess? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 14:11:36 GMT
However, a few important facts were left out. Facts don't matter. Only beliefs. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 11, 2022 14:14:18 GMT
So is alitheia an old trump supporting pea returning with a new pea name? 16 posts, shit and run, leaving other deplorables to clean up the mess? If we could get the spreadsheet out and find out which one despises their sister, we could probably start to narrow it down. 🤪😂 |
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Post by guzismom on Jan 11, 2022 14:24:23 GMT
LOL!! did you read the article/?!! Why read the article?!? If she did, she might learn something...and learning is DANGEROUS! (tic) |
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Post by oh yvonne on Jan 11, 2022 15:03:45 GMT
LOL!! did you read the article/?!! Oopsie! Now that's embarrassing...   |
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Post by hop2 on Jan 11, 2022 15:10:22 GMT
I heard urine is a new breakthrough cure…. I read that some anti-vaxer is urging his followers to drink urine. I initially thought that it was a joke. It seems that it is true. I linked a story about it above. But hey, it’s free! Everyone has access to it, it’s not elite and I guess it’ll own those nasty liberal socialist communists  |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 11, 2022 15:17:44 GMT
I don't always agree with AOC and wasn't happy with how she responded to the criticism. However, a few important facts were left out. #1 She was outside when the photo of her "partying" was taken with just 1 other person, a significant other, so someone inside her bubble. #2 She was at a restaurant. Do you have a trick for eating with a mask? #3 She was in Miami on Dec 31. I don't know the specifics of her travel plans, but 10 days later, it's entirely possible she was infected with covid on or after her return to New York. Maybe you could criticize her for traveling to Florida, but eating outdoors? Exactly what rules or laws did she break? All the story tells me is that politicians are getting just as sick of all of the virus bullshit as everyone else is in this country. Masked/vaxed/boosted are ALL going to get covid sooner or later so we all need to get on with our lives and stop with all of the stupid useless mandates in this country. Get back to work, get our kids back to school and live your lives without this incessant fear. |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 11, 2022 15:19:45 GMT
Yes after partying maskless in Miami she has tested positive. Another case of "Do as I say, not as I do". I do wish her well that she gets over her illness quickly. She is among one of many vaccinated people to get Covid. I am sure she has access to medications that those of us in other states do not . . . but that is a whole other soap box to stand on! Although her statement that "Republicans who pointed this out" were upset because they just wanted to date her, doesn't help her case at all. My sister and her family came down with covid after Christmas from visiting the other half of the family. She is fully vaccinated, and was with close family. Most of the people I know recently who have contracted covid have been vaccinated and some even boosted! Oh well carry on . . . .
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Post by cindosha on Jan 11, 2022 15:22:49 GMT
Yes after partying maskless in Miami she has tested positive. Another case of "Do as I say, not as I do". I do wish her well that she gets over her illness quickly. She is among one of many vaccinated people to get Covid. I am sure she has access to medications that those of us in other states do not . . . but that is a whole other soap box to stand on! Although her statement that "Republicans who pointed this out" were upset because they just wanted to date her, doesn't help her case at all. My sister and her family came down with covid after Christmas from visiting the other half of the family. She is fully vaccinated, and was with close family. Most of the people I know recently who have contracted covid have been vaccinated and some even boosted! Oh well carry on . . . . So my takeaway from this is your sister was as irresponsible as you you claim AOC was? 😏 Wow, with family like you… 🤔 *carries on* My takeaway with this is that EVERYONE whether vaxed/masked or boosted is eventually going to get covid. I don't see where she said her sister was irresponsible...or that AOC was irresponsible either. It's more like no matter who you are or what you do, you're going to get the vid sooner or later.. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 11, 2022 15:24:22 GMT
I’m not really sure what the point of this thread is. You say it is a case of “do as I say not what I do” but has AOC made any laws or mandates saying that people can’t go on vacation or be around others when they are Vaccinated? Doesn’t seem to be the “gotcha” that you think it is.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jan 11, 2022 15:49:42 GMT
according to Fox News, Viagra is the new miracle cure for Covid. So if your Covid doesn't go away after 4 hours, seek medical treatment?
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Post by oh yvonne on Jan 11, 2022 15:54:05 GMT
So my takeaway from this is your sister was as irresponsible as you you claim AOC was? 😏 Wow, with family like you… 🤔 *carries on* My takeaway with this is that EVERYONE whether vaxed/masked or boosted is eventually going to get covid. I don't see where she said her sister was irresponsible...or that AOC was irresponsible either. It's more like no matter who you are or what you do, you're going to get the vid sooner or later..The vid? Vid? ohhh..nooo. Not a cutesy euphemism. Stop trying to make vid happen. Its not going to happen. |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 11, 2022 16:50:28 GMT
My takeaway with this is that EVERYONE whether vaxed/masked or boosted is eventually going to get covid. I don't see where she said her sister was irresponsible...or that AOC was irresponsible either. It's more like no matter who you are or what you do, you're going to get the vid sooner or later..The vid? Vid? ohhh..nooo. Not a cutesy euphemism. Stop trying to make vid happen. Its not going to happen. It really doesn't matter what it's called, everyone knows what it is. What's the big deal calling it that??? I'm not sure what the problem is |
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Post by oh yvonne on Jan 11, 2022 16:52:36 GMT
The vid? Vid? ohhh..nooo. Not a cutesy euphemism. Stop trying to make vid happen. Its not going to happen. It really doesn't matter what it's called, everyone knows what it is. What's the big deal calling it that??? I'm not sure what the problem is Mean Girls reference lol |
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Post by cindosha on Jan 11, 2022 17:00:20 GMT
It really doesn't matter what it's called, everyone knows what it is. What's the big deal calling it that??? I'm not sure what the problem is Mean Girls reference lol I've only seen the movie a couple of times and I don't remember that reference...I guess I will have to watch it again, LOL |
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Post by dawnnikol on Jan 11, 2022 17:01:55 GMT
All the story tells me is that politicians are getting just as sick of all of the virus bullshit as everyone else is in this country. Masked/vaxed/boosted are ALL going to get covid sooner or later so we all need to get on with our lives and stop with all of the stupid useless mandates in this country. Get back to work, get our kids back to school and live your lives without this incessant fear. Who isn't fucking tired of Covid? However, day after day, it's been proven that Covid is not tired of us. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 11, 2022 17:10:11 GMT
I’ve read the whole thread and I’m still stuck on puzzling over the idea of an OP telling us to carry on.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jan 11, 2022 17:48:54 GMT
I've only seen the movie a couple of times and I don't remember that reference...I guess I will have to watch it again, LOL Stop trying to make "fetch" happen! Actually I roll my eyes at 'the jab' too. Its irritating that these very deadly serious medical terms have people using cutesy euphemisms. To somehow lessen the seriousness of the situation. Having trouble trying to articulate this but I think you KWIM. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 11, 2022 18:54:07 GMT
All the story tells me is that politicians are getting just as sick of all of the virus bullshit as everyone else is in this country. Masked/vaxed/boosted are ALL going to get covid sooner or later so we all need to get on with our lives and stop with all of the stupid useless mandates in this country. Get back to work, get our kids back to school and live your lives without this incessant fear. Who isn't fucking tired of Covid? However, day after day, it's been proven that Covid is not tired of us. Yep. Just because you’re tired of something doesn’t mean it goes away. Case in point, I’m tired of cyndiosha hijacking this thread with boneheaded stupidity, and yet the boomerang of stupidity continues. 🤷🏼♀️ Edit: On reflection, this thread was stupid from the get go, so continuing the idiocy is not really hijacking it. But apply that to any thread thread she shows up on, and the point stands. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 11, 2022 19:02:54 GMT
I’ve read the whole thread and I’m still stuck on puzzling over the idea of an OP telling us to carry on. Especially given it’s dunk a turd in the shallow end and run approach. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 11, 2022 19:18:06 GMT
I'm not going to defend AOC because I think going to Florida was a stupid move. However, I'm curious what medications your state is out of that she has access to, horse dewormer, bleach, viagra? Oh well carry on... Are you still believing that lie?  If you think it's wrong to use Ivermectin because it has a veterinary application, then may I suggest you discontinue use of antibiotics like amoxicillin, antidepressants such as Prozac, pain medication like tramadol, various chemotherapy drugs, certain thyroid-control medications, and prednisone. "Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19" pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34466270/"Ivermectin: an award-winning drug with expected antiviral activity against COVID-19" www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/Here’s a fun fact. When a drug is created it goes through a minimum of three clinical trials for the intended use of the drug to find out if it works for the intended use, the effectiveness of the drug and what if any side affects are associated with the use of the drug. Then it’s given to the FDA for approval of use by general public. All three of the current vaccines and approved other drugs for treating COVID-19 have gone through this process before they were given to the FDA for approval of use. So while the maker of the drug or whoever it is “expects antiviral activity against COVID” it means nothing until the drug goes through the process outlined above. Because in the process of three clinical trials it could be found the drug does not work as expect or it has nasty side affects. And it is true that in some cases a drug it may be found it could be used for other conditions. But again it would have to go through three phases of clinical trails for the new condition before it’s approved for that condition. I have not heard if Ivermectin has gone through any clinical trials or that it has been approved by the FDA for use in this country. Has any of this happened? And then there is this.. |
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Post by anonaname on Jan 11, 2022 19:24:11 GMT
I have not heard if Ivermectin has gone through any clinical trials or that it has been approved by the FDA for use in this country. Has any of this happened? "Therapeutic Advances: Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for “need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for “improvement” and “deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty. Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally." journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx |
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Post by anonaname on Jan 11, 2022 19:24:37 GMT
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Post by elaine on Jan 11, 2022 19:37:53 GMT
That is great news! I’ll sign up as soon as it is available. |
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Post by anonaname on Jan 11, 2022 19:41:46 GMT
That is great news! I’ll sign up as soon as it is available. You should have the right to get treatment you feel you need. I'm happy for you.  |
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Post by MichyM on Jan 11, 2022 19:49:04 GMT
Every time I see another dose being ok'ed, I think of my sister (she died 11+ years ago) who's immune sustem was shot due to her chronic illness. I am so grateful that scientists are looking out specifically for people like her. As soon as it's my turn, I'll line up for that 4th shot happily. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 11, 2022 19:49:58 GMT
I have not heard if Ivermectin has gone through any clinical trials or that it has been approved by the FDA for use in this country. Has any of this happened? "Therapeutic Advances: Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for “need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for “improvement” and “deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty. Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally." journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspxVirtually every study showing any efficacy has been discredited. But keep posting them! |
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If you think it's wrong to use Ivermectin because it has a veterinary application, then may I suggest you discontinue use of antibiotics like amoxicillin, antidepressants such as Prozac, pain medication like tramadol, various chemotherapy drugs, certain thyroid-control medications, and prednisone.
If you think it's wrong to use Ivermectin because it has a veterinary application, then may I suggest you discontinue use of antibiotics like amoxicillin, antidepressants such as Prozac, pain medication like tramadol, various chemotherapy drugs, certain thyroid-control medications, and prednisone.
