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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 26, 2022 21:04:41 GMT
lizacreatesThat's one of the requirements. It provides proof of commitment to follow the after surgery protocols for success.
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Post by Nink on Jan 26, 2022 21:52:11 GMT
We have a guy at church who is currently waiting for a kidney transplant. We had another friend who needed, and received, a double lung transplant, my sister was in charge of the fundraising at church to help them both. There is a laundry list of “rules” they need to meet to even be considered, I remember among those (and it was pre-Covid when this all started) was they had to get a crap ton of vaccines. I saw an interview with this guy and he doesn’t want the vaccine because “you can’t just make a vaccine in months, it takes years”, therefore he doesn’t trust it. Totally his choice, but with that choice comes consequences and this is just one of them. His choice, but also a choice made in error. mRNA technology has been studied since the 90s. Adapting it for this particular need was the end game of a very long process. Is it better to let guys like that wallow in misinformation, or do we have a duty to keep trying to get through to them? It seems to me that if medicine sets aside best practices because of someone’s misguided (and politically guided) beliefs, than would be a form of malpractice in itself. Oh, trust me. I preach to anyone and everyone that their info on that is wrong. But I’m also to the point of wondering why I’m trying so hard to convince them to save their own life, when they don’t seem to give a damn. Anymore I’m tired of wasting my breath and just let the chips fall where they may. Karma. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 26, 2022 22:09:25 GMT
The part I don't understand is if they are concerned about the safety of the vaccine but will die without the transplant it seems to me the vaccine is a lesser risk. What possible side effects would be more concerning than death with no transplant? But then again the ant-vaccine sentiments generally do not make logical sense to me. Honestly, I’ve been asking myself “why? How can a young father come to this decision?” The only way I can make sense out of it is because he really has given up; that in his heart of hearts (no pun intended) he believes he won’t survive the transplant procedure or the heart won’t take. And he has decided that he wants to go out famous. He has had so much publicity, so much media attention, so many right-wingers using him as a poster child compared to the obscurity he was living in and believed he would die in. It still makes it a tragedy that he would choose personal fame and public adoration (from the anti-vaxxers) over trying anything to have a chance to be there for his children and wife. I'm not sure it's him seeking fame, though. In the article I saw, his father was interviewed and quoted. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 26, 2022 22:11:02 GMT
Honestly, I’ve been asking myself “why? How can a young father come to this decision?” The only way I can make sense out of it is because he really has given up; that in his heart of hearts (no pun intended) he believes he won’t survive the transplant procedure or the heart won’t take. And he has decided that he wants to go out famous. He has had so much publicity, so much media attention, so many right-wingers using him as a poster child compared to the obscurity he was living in and believed he would die in. It still makes it a tragedy that he would choose personal fame and public adoration (from the anti-vaxxers) over trying anything to have a chance to be there for his children and wife. I think the only way to make sense of it is his belief that the hospital will cave with enough bad publicity. The idea that you're going to knowingly die to not risk a bad vaccine reaction is just incomprehensible. I think with many of them it’s not even that they’re afraid of the vaccine reaction. It’s become an article of faith for some of them that “patriots” and “Christians” don’t get the vaccine, period. They’d rather die to own the godless libs. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 26, 2022 22:15:53 GMT
I think the only way to make sense of it is his belief that the hospital will cave with enough bad publicity. The idea that you're going to knowingly die to not risk a bad vaccine reaction is just incomprehensible. He’s deluded then, because they’re not the ones that create the final criteria for getting the organs. I bet given this, every transplant program in the country requires it. “Given the shortage of available organs, we do everything we can to ensure that a patient who receives a transplanted organ has the greatest chance of survival. Our Mass General Brigham healthcare system requires several CDC-recommended vaccines, including the COVID-19 vaccine, and lifestyle behaviors for transplant candidates to create both the best chance for a successful operation and to optimize the patient’s survival after transplantation, given that their immune system is drastically suppressed. Patients are not active on the waitlist without this. Research has shown that transplant recipients are at a much higher risk of dying from COVID-19 when compared to non-transplant patients. This guidance is in alignment with recommendations from the American Society of Transplantation, American Society of Transplant Surgeons and International Society for Heart and Lung Transplantation. Like most other transplant programs across the country, the COVID-19 vaccine is one of several vaccines and lifestyle behaviors that are required for patients awaiting solid organ transplant. Transplant candidates must also receive the seasonal influenza and hepatitis B vaccines, follow other healthy behaviors, and demonstrate they can commit to taking the required medications following transplant. At the Brigham and across our system, we have transplant guidelines that we follow in alignment with recommendations from the American Society of Transplantation, the American Society of Transplant Surgeons and the International Society for Heart and Lung Transplantation. More information is available here. We follow this guidance in order to create both the best chance for a successful operation and also the patient’s disease-free survival, given that their immune system is suppressed after transplant. Research has shown that transplant recipients are at a higher risk of dying from COVID-19 when compared to non-transplant patients. Transplant recipients must take immunosuppressive medications after receiving a transplanted organ. This means that after a transplant, recipients will develop less of an antibody response to a vaccine and are especially vulnerable to severe illness if they contract the virus. For this reason, experts recommend COVID-19 vaccination before organ transplantation to lower the chance of severe disease and death if a recipient becomes infected. Exceptions to these requirements are reviewed by a multidisciplinary group of experts in transplantation.” www.brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/transplant-candidate-vaccinationThere are super good reasons why they require it. I can’t see he’d get an exception for outright refusal. His logic is baffling, after all his body may reject his transplanted organ, but he’s willing to risk that. I'm only speculating, but I think the family has a lot of misinformation about the transplant process (probably the vaccine too). The father mentioned exploring all options and looking at other hospitals. No other hospital is going to perform the surgery or put him back on the list as long as he remains unvaccinated. And again, just speculation, but I imagine an entire team of doctors and possibly hospital administrators very thoroughly explained his options and the consequences of refusing the vaccine. |
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Post by papersilly on Jan 26, 2022 22:16:50 GMT
Oh, trust me. I preach to anyone and everyone that their info on that is wrong. But I’m also to the point of wondering why I’m trying so hard to convince them to save their own life, when they don’t seem to give a damn. Anymore I’m tired of wasting my breath and just let the chips fall where they may. Karma. this is where i am when it comes to championing the benefits of the vaccine. i feel like i've talked myself blue to my vaccine hesitant friends (entire family is vaxxed). the information, clinical studies, and data are all out there for anyone to find. the vaccine has been readily available, for free, for over a year to anyone who wants it. what more can we do to convince people? like you said, karma. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 26, 2022 22:23:05 GMT
I posted this in the other thread but wanted to post it again, it sums up my feelings.
He's rejecting science and medicine for his personal beliefs and principles. Well, choices have consequences, you lose your chance at a heart. I'm sure lots of different doctors and hospital administrators had conversations with him and warned him very specifically of the consequences, so he most likely made an informed choice.
And the vaccination is against his basic principles? Well, doctors, transplant teams and ethics committees all have basic principles, too. Unfortunately, hearts are a limited resource and have to be rationed. The doctors are just trying to ensure the person with the best chances of survival after the transplant receives the heart.
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Post by cindytred on Jan 26, 2022 22:27:07 GMT
That is truly a case of cutting off your nose despite your face. How stubborn can you get?
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Post by lizacreates on Jan 26, 2022 22:46:02 GMT
I’m just curious. When people who reject the vax use the word “principles,” what exactly do they mean? What specific principles are they referring to? Freedom to choose what to inject in one’s body? This patient won’t have that choice once he agrees to surgery. Was he planning to say no to anesthesia? Was he planning to say no to intravenous meds before and after to prevent infections and manage pain? I don’t understand what “principles” are at stake here.
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 26, 2022 22:46:43 GMT
I personally don’t feel comfortable with harsh views ,judgement or punishment for people who choose not to be vaccinated . I do feel however that other precautions against Covid like good quality masks and shielding etc are essential . Broadening things slightly , I came across this recent article from the Atlantic about the subject called “It is a terrible idea to deny medical care to unvaccinated people” www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/unvaccinated-medical-care-hospitals-omicron/621299/ From the article: “ We don’t use the medical-care system as a way of meting out justice. We don’t use it to punish people for their social choices.” The matter “is pretty cut-and-dry,” Sara Murray, a hospitalist at UC San Francisco, added. “We have an ethical obligation to provide care for people regardless of the choices they made, and that stands true for our unvaccinated patients.”Read this again. WE DON'T USE THE MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM AS A WAY OF METING OUT JUSTICE. No one is meting out justice. Hearts are a limited resource, doctors have an ethical obligation to give them to the person with the best chances of survival. The 31 year old in Boston could improve his chances but chose not to get vaccinated. He made a choice, the doctors are responding appropriately to his choice. No one is denying medical care to the unvaccinated. As a result of trying to care for the unvaccinated, hospitals are struggling to provide care for everyone. In extreme situations, hospitals put emergency protocols in place because they're so overwhelmed trying to do the most good for the most number of people. Sometimes those protocols mean turning away people that they can't help in order to take care of the ones they can help. The unvaccinated are 20 times more likely to die of covid, their survival chances are significantly lower than a vaccinated person. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 26, 2022 22:50:34 GMT
Trouble is that when he dies 'they' will blame the hospital and doctors.
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Post by maryland on Jan 27, 2022 0:01:45 GMT
I was thinking more broadly of people being fined financially as punishment for not taking the vaccine which is already happening in several countries. For some the fines are regular and continual . Whilst I am pro-vaccine for those who are able - I just don’t like it being mandated in some countries. There have been some other threads here where people have had zero compassion for those who have died unvaccinated . I have been shocked . Like other people , we as a family are clinically vulnerable due to heart and lung problems and been prisoners in our own home for 2 years only leaving for hospital visits and one drive locally. I want this to end as much as anybody else and unfortunately in the UK it is set to get even worse with the lifting of restrictions creating more risk for us. I don’t want to lose my humanity on top of everything else. I don’t think we’ve lost our humanity necessarily. This is a place for many of us to vent our frustrations, and many of us are frustrated with the additional burden the unvaccinated are putting on the rest of us. If we didn’t have compassion for those who die from this disease unvaccinated, why would we care that so many ARE dying? Wouldn’t the less human response be to just figure none of this has anything to do with us, so let people do what they want? That seems to be what the anti-vaxxers want - for all of us to just leave them to their devices. But we persist in not wanting them to die anyway. We persist in caring about their deaths and the enormous burden they place on healthcare workers (also human). We persist in that despite being told unequivocally by the unvaccinated to F off. That’s not losing our humanity. That’s refusing to lose it. Yes! You said it well!
I agree, that's why I want mandates for all and all school kids age 5 and up to get vaccinated. Because I care and want them to live and not get covid. And by us getting vaccinated/boosted, we are showing our care for humanity. And many of us still wear masks too. I think the unvaccinated are the ones who are losing humanity. They don't seem to care to protect themselves and others. |
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Post by artbabe on Jan 27, 2022 0:46:54 GMT
This brought something to mind: My ex's ex needed a kidney because she had polycystic kidney disease. A bartender she knew donated a kidney to her. After the successful transplant the ex would go to the bar and have a drink in front of the bartender. I never understood how she could get away with that. At the very least, if I were that bartender I would have jumped over the bar and punched her. Of course I was never a fan, anyway, so I might be biased....  But seriously, how does someone get away with that? What is the hospitals recourse if the patient afterwards chooses to ignore the rules? And on topic- the hospital has every right to take him off of the waiting list if he won't do the things he needs to do to take care of the heart. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 27, 2022 1:15:42 GMT
I personally don’t feel comfortable with harsh views ,judgement or punishment for people who choose not to be vaccinated . I do feel however that other precautions against Covid like good quality masks and shielding etc are essential . Broadening things slightly , I came across this recent article from the Atlantic about the subject called “It is a terrible idea to deny medical care to unvaccinated people” www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/unvaccinated-medical-care-hospitals-omicron/621299/ From the article: “ We don’t use the medical-care system as a way of meting out justice. We don’t use it to punish people for their social choices.” The matter “is pretty cut-and-dry,” Sara Murray, a hospitalist at UC San Francisco, added. “We have an ethical obligation to provide care for people regardless of the choices they made, and that stands true for our unvaccinated patients.”Read this again. WE DON'T USE THE MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM AS A WAY OF METING OUT JUSTICE. My husband is a nurse practitioner in primary care affiliated with a hospital. You'll be happy to know just today he received a company wide email reminding them to have compassion for the unvaccinated along with a video. At some point in his busy day, in between seeing patients straight through without lunch because they're trying to accommodate patients and squeezing them in wherever they can, he is supposed to read this email and watch a video. Also, today he spent 90 minutes filling out forms for 5 patients who need monoclonal anti-bodies. Only one was actually his patient but he had 3 conversations with him about getting the vaccine. He refused the vaccine because it was rat poison. Now he wants the antibodies, even after he was told about the emergency use authorization. Providers are required to have a discussion about the risks before setting up the treatments. Even though all of this could have been prevented with a simple vaccine, he is expected to have compassion even though the unvaccinated don't have compassion for anyone around them. Note - he actually does have compassion, I'm the one lacking it tonight because I see how much he is overworked and its been a very long 2 years with no end in sight. We actually had a conversation recently about a career change and leaving medicine. Maybe instead of compassion for the unvaccinated, we need more compassion for health care workers, first responders and workers in long term care facilities who have been dealing with this for 2 years. |
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From the article: “ We don’t use the medical-care system as a way of meting out justice. We don’t use it to punish people for their social choices.” The matter “is pretty cut-and-dry,” Sara Murray, a hospitalist at UC San Francisco, added. “We have an ethical obligation to provide care for people regardless of the choices they made, and that stands true for our unvaccinated patients.”Read this again. WE DON'T USE THE MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM AS A WAY OF METING OUT JUSTICE. My husband is a nurse practitioner in primary care affiliated with a hospital. You'll be happy to know just today he received a company wide email reminding them to have compassion for the unvaccinated along with a video. At some point in his busy day, in between seeing patients straight through without lunch because they're trying to accommodate patients and squeezing them in wherever they can, he is supposed to read this email and watch a video. Also, today he spent 90 minutes filling out forms for 5 patients who need monoclonal anti-bodies. Only one was actually his patient but he had 3 conversations with him about getting the vaccine. He refused the vaccine because it was rat poison. Now he wants the antibodies, even after he was told about the emergency use authorization. Providers are required to have a discussion about the risks before setting up the treatments. Even though all of this could have been prevented with a simple vaccine, he is expected to have compassion even though the unvaccinated don't have compassion for anyone around them. Note - he actually does have compassion, I'm the one lacking it tonight because I see how much he is overworked and its been a very long 2 years with no end in sight. We actually had a conversation recently about a career change and leaving medicine. Maybe instead of compassion for the unvaccinated, we need more compassion for health care workers, first responders and workers in long term care facilities who have been dealing with this for 2 years. 👆🏼 all of this! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 27, 2022 1:24:34 GMT
There are not enough words to thank our heroic healthcare workers!!
Thank you all!!
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Post by PLurker on Jan 27, 2022 1:30:01 GMT
As a transplant recipient, I had to agree to do and not do certain things. Part of the deal. You could be lowered on or be removed from "the list" for your actions or lack of. Again part of the deal. There are long wait lists for organs and if you aren't willing to protect it, so to speak, that's on you.
Organs are denied or place(s) lost/lowered for a variety or reasons. all part of the agreement. He denied himself, they did not. There are requirements. Period. What a shame.
ETA and the drugs, all the drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs- afterward... he was okay with those? Even if he "did his own research" on them before hand, the can change, and do at any given moment when something isn't working right for you or have adverse side effects. He wouldn't have time of expertise to keep up. You have to trust in your care givers. Hardly another way, really, in the big scope of things.
He is literally endangering the gift of life, the organ, by not vaxing.
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Post by msladibug on Jan 27, 2022 1:49:17 GMT
He is willing to die because he ‘thinks’ the vaccine may harm him.
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Post by littlemama on Jan 27, 2022 1:49:40 GMT
Let's just fix the thread title
Man chooses death over safe, effective vaccine.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 27, 2022 2:16:53 GMT
He is allowed to make his own choices and those choices come with consequences. I just feel a lot of sadness for his kids who will grow up knowing that their dad prioritized not taking a vaccine over staying alive to see them grow up.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 27, 2022 2:25:59 GMT
I’m just curious. When people who reject the vax use the word “principles,” what exactly do they mean? What specific principles are they referring to? Freedom to choose what to inject in one’s body? This patient won’t have that choice once he agrees to surgery. Was he planning to say no to anesthesia? Was he planning to say no to intravenous meds before and after to prevent infections and manage pain? I don’t understand what “principles” are at stake here. If I had to guess-and I do-I would say that he identifies as a “Patriot,” and real Patriots don’t get Covid vaccines. Patriots love Trump, and hate masks and vaccines. Based on what his father said, I can’t think of any other explanation. |
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Post by Lexica on Jan 27, 2022 2:28:19 GMT
I appreciate others pointing out the this guy isn't being DENIED anything. He is CHOOSING to remove himself from the list, and I resent his family saying he is being denied. I'm sure the family of the #2 recipient on the list is grateful that their loved one is moving up on the list and might receive the next heart and will live because of the #1 guy's decision tp pull himself from the lineup.
And if it was my loved one's heart being donated, I would certainly want it going to the person who was willing to do whatever is required to have the maximum chance of survival. I'm not sure that I would seek to pull the heart back, but I would certainly be making some loud complaints to anyone that was willing to listen.
I think this anti-vax stance has gotten so far out of hand. It should have never been political in the first place. And you can't convince me that this person isn't intentionally playing a martyr for attention. Otherwise he would have just quietly removed himself from the list, not gone on the news to declare he is "being denied!!" If it was just about his principles, this would have been handled much differently. I'm curious as to whether he received the childhood vaccines required to get into grade school? And he had no issue with the bucket of pills he would be required to take every day post surgery to keep from rejectiong the heart? Yet three injections was asking too much and put him over the edge and willing to die, leaving his wife and small children? Got it.
Does he really think we can't see through this?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 2:57:45 GMT
I just saw a news clip on You Tube. I have no words. None. It just doesn't make sense. His wife is pregnant with their third child!! You Tube of Dad interview |
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Post by Merge on Jan 27, 2022 3:00:49 GMT
I’m just curious. When people who reject the vax use the word “principles,” what exactly do they mean? What specific principles are they referring to? Freedom to choose what to inject in one’s body? This patient won’t have that choice once he agrees to surgery. Was he planning to say no to anesthesia? Was he planning to say no to intravenous meds before and after to prevent infections and manage pain? I don’t understand what “principles” are at stake here. If I had to guess-and I do-I would say that he identifies as a “Patriot,” and real Patriots don’t get Covid vaccines. Patriots love Trump, and hate masks and vaccines. Based on what his father said, I can’t think of any other explanation. Yep. Cult “principles.” |
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Post by PLurker on Jan 27, 2022 3:20:23 GMT
Furthermore, will he even know if the DONOR had the shot? What then? refuse heart?
He needs to get his priorities straight and quit playing it off as medical staff and facilities fault. It's his choice.
He makes no sense. Willing to die over a vac when there is no way in hell he understands half of what would go on with a heart transplant but trusts them to do alllll of that.
Much easier and probable to understand vaccines. And yet...
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Post by PLurker on Jan 27, 2022 3:38:41 GMT
This brought something to mind: My ex's ex needed a kidney because she had polycystic kidney disease. A bartender she knew donated a kidney to her. After the successful transplant the ex would go to the bar and have a drink in front of the bartender. I never understood how she could get away with that. At the very least, if I were that bartender I would have jumped over the bar and punched her. Of course I was never a fan, anyway, so I might be biased.... But seriously, how does someone get away with that? What is the hospitals recourse if the patient afterwards chooses to ignore the rules? And on topic- the hospital has every right to take him off of the waiting list if he won't do the things he needs to do to take care of the heart. As a kidney transplant recipient, I was never told to not drink after. Only not to abuse it, as it would then abuse your entire body, possibly raise your blood pressure and harm kidney. But after my kidney transplant the only things I've been told not to invest is grapefruit and anything that would interfere with whatever medications. Couldn't eat pomegranate until my one med was switched. (missed them, glad I can again). I am one who rarely drinks, but I can. Of course as people vary so do protocols for each individual, what works. But generally speaking, no alcohol after isn't a thing for kidney recipients.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 27, 2022 3:40:17 GMT
NPR had a little more information According to his mother, he did receive childhood vaccines "D.J. is an informed patient," Tracey Ferguson said in a brief interview at her homeThat would be funny if it weren’t so sad. The mom claimed he was worried about the vaccine because of a heart condition. He’s worried about a very minimal chance of a side effect but not worried about dying of covid or his heart disease? And if he trusts the cardiologists to do a heart transplant why doesn’t he trust them when they encouraged him to get the vaccine? the parents are clearly spinning this Brigham & Womens Hospital also stressed that no patient is placed on an organ waitlist without meeting those criteria, and rejected the notion that a transplant candidate could be considered "first on the list" for an organ — a claim Ferguson's family made in its fundraising post.His family is raising money, so maybe this is more about 15 minutes of fame than I initially thought www.npr.org/2022/01/26/1076004339/heart-transplant-patient-unvaccinated |
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Post by zella on Jan 27, 2022 3:58:33 GMT
I personally don’t feel comfortable with harsh views ,judgement or punishment for people who choose not to be vaccinated . I do feel however that other precautions against Covid like good quality masks and shielding etc are essential . Broadening things slightly , I came across this recent article from the Atlantic about the subject called “It is a terrible idea to deny medical care to unvaccinated people” www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/unvaccinated-medical-care-hospitals-omicron/621299/ I did read the article and found it fair and balanced. As a nurse I'm not supposed to judge who is "worthy" of care. Period. BUT. Don't smokers have to quit prior to lung transplants? Don't heavy drinkers have to stop drinking if they want a liver transplant? This is both common sense and medical triage, as these resources (healthy organs) are not available to everyone who needs them. Therefore I don't have an issue with this requirement. Maybe it won't help. Maybe he'll still get Covid. But damn, wouldn't you do whatever you needed to do to get a heart transplant if you needed one? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 27, 2022 4:00:10 GMT
I was curious about their fundraising page, so I looked at it. This is what his mother, I think, wrote:
David B Ferguson, Jr. (DJ) is the father of two young children soon to be three, feels forced to play Russian Roulette with his life at Brigham & Womens's Hospital in Boston where he has been hospitalized for weeks. After complications from Afib and deteriorating heart failure he has been left with no choice but to have a heart transplant. He was placed on the Status 1-2 list of recipients only to be informed that he could no receive the lifesaving procedure unless he got the Covid Vaccine. The 31 year old has had a short history of Afib, which puts him at high risk for adverse reaction and even death. Each day there are more and more reports of men in his age range who are severely debilitated or worse, dying of heart attacks after receiving the shot.
Why deliberately put a high risk patient in harm's way with an unproven shot? DJ's choice to refuse the COVID Vax is a protective measure allowing his own immune system to work for him, rather than taking the risks associated with a manufactured vaccine that has yet to be shown effective with a patient in his critical state.
B&W Hospital has made it clear that they put public policy over the patients at their hospital, clearly in violation of their own mission statement, even going so far as to state that they would most likely reject the heart of an unvaccinated donor. The head cardiologist figuratively held a heart over DJ's head, saying that if he got the shot today, he could have a new heart by Monday. This is coercive and discriminatory medical apartheid has now reached beyond the grave.
Their premise for insisting on the vaccine is to prevent rejection, infection and virus. It would then follow that patients would would need a vaccine against any and all viruses. Furthermore, COVID is a virus that DJ believes he has already h ad and he has requested that the hospital test him for the antibodies. If he has them, then he is at least, if not more protected naturally than as he would be with a manufactured vax.
Please help DJ and his family with the mounting costs they are incurring as they deal with this devastating, life threatening ordeal. Prayers, Shares and contributions are all helpful and welcome.
I don’t quite understand what she wrote about viruses. 🤷♀️
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 4:04:12 GMT
I was curious about their fundraising page, so I looked at it. This is what his mother, I think, wrote: David B Ferguson, Jr. (DJ) is the father of two young children soon to be three, feels forced to play Russian Roulette with his life at Brigham & Womens's Hospital in Boston where he has been hospitalized for weeks. After complications from Afib and deteriorating heart failure he has been left with no choice but to have a heart transplant. He was placed on the Status 1-2 list of recipients only to be informed that he could no receive the lifesaving procedure unless he got the Covid Vaccine. The 31 year old has had a short history of Afib, which puts him at high risk for adverse reaction and even death. Each day there are more and more reports of men in his age range who are severely debilitated or worse, dying of heart attacks after receiving the shot. Why deliberately put a high risk patient in harm's way with an unproven shot? DJ's choice to refuse the COVID Vax is a protective measure allowing his own immune system to work for him, rather than taking the risks associated with a manufactured vaccine that has yet to be shown effective with a patient in his critical state. B&W Hospital has made it clear that they put public policy over the patients at their hospital, clearly in violation of their own mission statement, even going so far as to state that they would most likely reject the heart of an unvaccinated donor. The head cardiologist figuratively held a heart over DJ's head, saying that if he got the shot today, he could have a new heart by Monday. This is coercive and discriminatory medical apartheid has now reached beyond the grave. Their premise for insisting on the vaccine is to prevent rejection, infection and virus. It would then follow that patients would would need a vaccine against any and all viruses. Furthermore, COVID is a virus that DJ believes he has already h ad and he has requested that the hospital test him for the antibodies. If he has them, then he is at least, if not more protected naturally than as he would be with a manufactured vax. Please help DJ and his family with the mounting costs they are incurring as they deal with this devastating, life threatening ordeal. Prayers, Shares and contributions are all helpful and welcome. I don’t quite understand what she wrote about viruses. 🤷♀️ Oh gosh, so much misinformation in that give me money post. |
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