Ryann
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Post by Ryann on Jan 30, 2022 17:55:16 GMT
And *this* is who they’re enabling. It’s not *just* medical misinformation during a pandemic. NSFW (or anywhere really) Blatant and vile racism contained within. 🥺 He’s also made very clear on his opinion of transgender people. Fuck this guy. Fuck Spotify. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 30, 2022 18:01:16 GMT
And *this* is who they’re enabling. It’s not *just* medical misinformation during a pandemic. NSFW (or anywhere really) Blatant and vile racism contained within. 🥺 He’s also made very clear on his opinion of transgender people. Fuck this guy. Fuck Spotify. Yeah, he’s piece of work indeed. He is entirely very problematic. I had a friend on Facebook that loved him and applauded his “alternative views” platform early in the pandemic. I listened to a couple of episodes to see what she was talking about, and found that belief entirely disingenuous. I wonder how she reconciled both of these things. He’s really awful. |
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Post by jemmls4 on Jan 30, 2022 18:18:27 GMT
I don’t use Spotify but if I did I doubt I’d boycott or cancel. I mean I’m not canceling my cable because they have the Fox “News” channel. However, I applaud Neil young for his stance. This is what I'm having trouble with. I have sling. And they carry Fox too. And I'm not cancelling them either. I have written a snail mail letter and email to my cable company on several occasions asking for a Fox News-free package. Short of canceling everything so far I haven’t been able to get rid of it. No one in my home watches it. I have heard of several areas being successful in lobbying their cable company to off packages without FOX news. I have never had Spotify and I certainly don’t want them now. My son had a subscription (he’s 25) and he canceled as soon as he heard because “that dude is an idiot and a menace, mom, and I won’t support that”. He’s the favorite child at the moment. |
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Post by kiera on Jan 30, 2022 19:01:47 GMT
I just canceled my premium account and will not use the free version. When it asked me why I was canceling, I selected the "other" option and wrote in the box that I was standing in solidarity with Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, and the scientific community. I told them that I found it disgusting that Rogan was given $100mil and that I refuse to have a cent of my money going towards that lunatic.
I've signed up for the 3 month Apple Music trial, if I like it then I'll keep the paid subscription. It's the same $10/mo Spotify was getting from me anyway.
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Post by MichyM on Jan 30, 2022 19:53:40 GMT
crosby stills nash and young will never reunite. none of them are talking to crosby anymore.. he burned a few too many bridges. Slight hijack for all the CSN&Y fans ( MichyM , PLurker ), you have to watch Echo in the Canyon if you haven't already. I'm pretty sure have already talked about this doc, jeremysgirl . Oh, I just pulled it up on Wiki, totally sounds like my kind of doc. Next time I subscribe to Netflix for a few months I will try and remember to watch it. Thanks! |
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Post by MichyM on Jan 30, 2022 19:56:37 GMT
So I have question before I pull the trigger and get rid of Spotify. Do you think that Rogan and Spotify might part ways over this in the next week or two? I like Spotify and am used to it. Would love to keep it IF smarter people than me think that might be coming up.... Otherwise I'll go ahead rip the bandaid off and do it.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 30, 2022 20:17:58 GMT
So I have question before I pull the trigger and get rid of Spotify. Do you think that Rogan and Spotify might part ways over this in the next week or two? I like Spotify and am used to it. Would love to keep it IF smarter people than me think that might be coming up.... Otherwise I'll go ahead rip the bandaid off and do it. I think Spotify has had enough time to speak up. Since Neil Young told them to choose between him and Joe Rogan it was Spotify that started removing his music. I think they have been pretty clear where they stand. Granted, they could change their mind if enough people cancel and they get enough pushback, but you can always change your mind too, right? |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 30, 2022 20:26:49 GMT
I've just dug through the old CDs. And I was pleased to see I have 3 of Neil Young's and 1 Joni Mitchell. I guess it's just time to dust off the boombox...
I want to see some movement from Brene Brown though. I'd like to see her go out on her own. I would pay her gladly for access to her podcast.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 30, 2022 20:53:22 GMT
I knew nothing about this until Brene Brown posted and then I had to figure out what was going on. I think the part that really gets me is that he has a lucrative contract with Spotify. It’s one thing to allow freedom of speech, it’s another thing to enable and reward someone for spreading misinformation. It’s gross. They do it/allow him to push the limits because of the ad revenue that Rogan brings in. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 30, 2022 20:54:07 GMT
You can cancel a paid membership, go down to their free version where all your playlists will be intact. That’s is ad supported, so they still get money from *free* accounts. I moved all my playlists over to Apple Music. They have family memberships, yes. Yeah, I’m aware. I just posted that option for those who were afraid of listing their playlists. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 30, 2022 21:48:01 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 30, 2022 22:00:49 GMT
That’s is ad supported, so they still get money from *free* accounts. I moved all my playlists over to Apple Music. They have family memberships, yes. Yeah, I’m aware. I just posted that option for those who were afraid of listing their playlists. Yeah, I get not wanting to lose your playlists. You can move your playlists, though. I did, it was surprisingly easy and quick. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 30, 2022 22:03:14 GMT
A surprising amount of them don’t own their music catalogues to even have a say in it. I think it’s kind of sad they don’t own their own music, I guess I don’t know much about how the music business works these days. |
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Post by tentoes on Jan 30, 2022 22:08:18 GMT
I’ve never had a Spotify account (I’m happy to give all my money to Apple!) but I’m pretty sure now that I never will. I’m also slightly embarrassed to admit that I don’t know who Neil Young is
haha! I thought I was the only one! I listen to Pandora. It's free. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 22:53:14 GMT
Basically, it looks like Rogan is not going anywhere, they will just throw warning labels on that his followers won’t read or believe. I really hope more musicians demand their music be pulled. The fact that they seem like they want to be seen doing "something, anything" tells me people are cancelling. We'll see if other stars pull their music. That will be the thing that really changes the dynamic. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 30, 2022 23:02:08 GMT
We have a family Spotify account that DD pays for. I am going to suggest Apple Music instead. DD, DS and I all have iPhones, but DSO has an Android. Pardon my ignorance, but can you listen to Apple Music on an Android? The withdrawal of two of the most important living musicians obviously dents the company’s value proposition, but the bigger impact may simply be that an alarm has been sounded. (Acknowledging that I am quoting the article you posted, not your words) They may well be two of the most important living musicians, but how much sway do they really have today? I'd be curious to know the the breakdown of age groups using Spotify. I'll bet that there are millions of younger Spotify listeners hearing about Neil Young and Joni Mitchell withdrawing, and saying "lol who?" It's going to take some bigger more current artists to pull out before listeners in their 20s and 30s start paying attention. |
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Post by kiera on Jan 30, 2022 23:23:22 GMT
I'm 30 and grew up with both artists being played in the house, but I know that isn't the case for everyone.
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Post by valincal on Jan 30, 2022 23:56:07 GMT
And *this* is who they’re enabling. It’s not *just* medical misinformation during a pandemic. NSFW (or anywhere really) Blatant and vile racism contained within. 🥺 Wow. $100M for that. I’m sick. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 31, 2022 1:10:14 GMT
We have a family Spotify account that DD pays for. I am going to suggest Apple Music instead. DD, DS and I all have iPhones, but DSO has an Android. Pardon my ignorance, but can you listen to Apple Music on an Android? The withdrawal of two of the most important living musicians obviously dents the company’s value proposition, but the bigger impact may simply be that an alarm has been sounded. (Acknowledging that I am quoting the article you posted, not your words) They may well be two of the most important living musicians, but how much sway do they really have today? I'd be curious to know the the breakdown of age groups using Spotify. I'll bet that there are millions of younger Spotify listeners hearing about Neil Young and Joni Mitchell withdrawing, and saying "lol who?" It's going to take some bigger more current artists to pull out before listeners in their 20s and 30s start paying attention. I guess you can. 🙂 www.apple.com/lae/apple-music/android-download/I converted all my 2500 song playlists and only lost 44 songs between Spotify and Apple. Most of them were relatively obscure Aussie songs 😂 from the JJJ Hottest 100 playlists, so that might not be an issue on Apple Music Australia library. (I use the US library obviously). |
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 31, 2022 1:26:00 GMT
By paying for exclusivity Spotify has made him effectively bulletproof in doing so, and that I won’t support financially. Under their own stated rules (and actions) they should’ve removed a ton of his guests content on there, and they haven’t. That's a good point.
Where's Taylor Swift (or similar) on this? While I don't really know her or her music, isn't she fairly vocal about things like this? Or am I making stuff up? She's getting tagged a lot on Twitter!
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Post by lindas on Jan 31, 2022 2:02:23 GMT
I have no dog in this fight but I did find it interesting that Harry and Meghan so far aren’t cancelling their deal with Spotify. link |
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Post by buddysmom on Jan 31, 2022 2:14:35 GMT
Saw this on FB  |
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Post by MichyM on Jan 31, 2022 2:32:43 GMT
Saw this on FB What funny/sad, is that “the younguns” will be be completely all over this when one of their own gets involved. I have faith that that is coming soon. Yep, changed into my rose-colored glasses. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 31, 2022 2:47:26 GMT
I knew nothing about this until Brene Brown posted and then I had to figure out what was going on. I think the part that really gets me is that he has a lucrative contract with Spotify. It’s one thing to allow freedom of speech, it’s another thing to enable and reward someone for spreading misinformation. It’s gross. This is what bothers me as well. I haven’t tried to listen to Brene’s podcast for awhile but when did she go exclusively to Spotify? She used to be on podcast app as well. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 31, 2022 10:09:33 GMT
I knew nothing about this until Brene Brown posted and then I had to figure out what was going on. I think the part that really gets me is that he has a lucrative contract with Spotify. It’s one thing to allow freedom of speech, it’s another thing to enable and reward someone for spreading misinformation. It’s gross. This is what bothers me as well. I haven’t tried to listen to Brene’s podcast for awhile but when did she go exclusively to Spotify? She used to be on podcast app as well. She went to Spotify in 2020. She used to be on castbox too. It wasn't until she went to Spotify that I upgraded to Spotify premium. I did the free membership for a very long time. |
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Post by MichyM on Feb 2, 2022 1:38:32 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 2, 2022 1:58:52 GMT
Yeah it’s pretty complex, it’s much harder for some of the newer artists especially to take a stance because of how the music business is these days. I do not like that Apple has misinfo books for sale on its book platform. But I don’t boycott Barnes and Noble because they have books by political people I don’t like, because I support and accept that is freedom of speech. The whole $100m exclusivity that makes him treated different to other podcasts by Spotify is what drove me to cancel. It’s different. They’re directly financing his platform and content. |
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Post by MichyM on Feb 2, 2022 3:26:35 GMT
Yeah it’s pretty complex, it’s much harder for some of the newer artists especially to take a stance because of how the music business is these days. I do not like that Apple has misinfo books for sale on its book platform. But I don’t boycott Barnes and Noble because they have books by political people I don’t like, because I support and accept that is freedom of speech. The whole $100m exclusivity that makes him treated different to other podcasts by Spotify is what drove me to cancel. It’s different. They’re directly financing his platform and content. ITA. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 2, 2022 20:52:14 GMT
Spotify's plan to provide links on every podcast that discusses covid isn't enough. Rogan says he's not a medical doctor be he talks about taking hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. He also discourages young people from getting the vaccine. He claims to try to provide valid information but as far as I know, he doesn't have public health experts like Dr Fauci on his show. Happy to see more artists leaving www.npr.org/2022/02/02/1077653424/crosby-stills-nash-young-spotify |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 6, 2022 3:04:50 GMT
And *this* is who they’re enabling. It’s not *just* medical misinformation during a pandemic. NSFW (or anywhere really) Blatant and vile racism contained within. 🥺 He’s also made very clear on his opinion of transgender people. Fuck this guy. Fuck Spotify. He's not calling people the n-word, he's conveying what someone else has said. Granted he could've, and you could even argue should've, used the term "the n-word", but that's very different than calling someone that word. |
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