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Post by aj2hall on Feb 13, 2022 22:49:59 GMT
NY Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch, essentially a tabloid and decidedly right leaning, and an opinion piece in a local newspaper is hardly evidence. There are a lot of falsehoods and misinformation in both of those links. Try again. mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/All of the links I provided are mostly neutral and the Wall Street Journal leans right with their opinions. Migrants and refugees are eligible for the covid vaccine, regardless of legal status. Anyone applying to immigrate is required to get the vaccine, with the exception of children not yet eligible and anyone with a medical condition that can't get the vaccine. www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1037410464/us-immigrant-visa-applicant-coronavirus-covid-vaccinePeople applying to immigrate to the U.S. will have to show they've been vaccinated against COVID-19 as part of a required medical exam, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services says. The new policy takes effect on Oct. 1.www.uscis.gov/newsroom/alerts/covid-19-vaccination-required-for-immigration-medical-examinationswww.axios.com/white-house-vaccine-mandate-migrants-f596f9c6-6a7b-49c6-9ad8-2bb03e596ab5.htmlIf you're going to suggest that migrants and refugees should be required to get vaccinated, I can't wait to hear you argue against mandates at the same time. I support mandates and agree with requiring migrants and refugees to get vaccinated, with a couple of conditions. They should be allowed to discuss the vaccine with a trusted medical provider in their native language. And they should not be singled out. As part of broader mandates with those conditions, I'm OK with that.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 14, 2022 2:07:10 GMT
NY Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch, essentially a tabloid and decidedly right leaning, and an opinion piece in a local newspaper is hardly evidence. There are a lot of falsehoods and misinformation in both of those links. Try again. mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/All of the links I provided are mostly neutral and the Wall Street Journal leans right with their opinions. Migrants and refugees are eligible for the covid vaccine, regardless of legal status. Anyone applying to immigrate is required to get the vaccine, with the exception of children not yet eligible and anyone with a medical condition that can't get the vaccine. www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1037410464/us-immigrant-visa-applicant-coronavirus-covid-vaccinePeople applying to immigrate to the U.S. will have to show they've been vaccinated against COVID-19 as part of a required medical exam, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services says. The new policy takes effect on Oct. 1.www.uscis.gov/newsroom/alerts/covid-19-vaccination-required-for-immigration-medical-examinationswww.axios.com/white-house-vaccine-mandate-migrants-f596f9c6-6a7b-49c6-9ad8-2bb03e596ab5.htmlIf you're going to suggest that migrants and refugees should be required to get vaccinated, I can't wait to hear you argue against mandates at the same time. I support mandates and agree with requiring migrants and refugees to get vaccinated, with a couple of conditions. They should be allowed to discuss the vaccine with a trusted medical provider in their native language. And they should not be singled out. As part of broader mandates with those conditions, I'm OK with that. Don’t bother, her unapologetic stupidity knows no limits apparently. I AM a US immigrant. I had to have proof all my childhood vaccinations in order to move here. As well as a chest X-ray. Because I was given all of them in the late 70s early 80s when electronic record keeping wasn’t great - I had to have them all again to move here - it is mandated. I did so without complaint. I’m more vaccinated than some US citizens, you prattling, ignorant bigot. 😡
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 14, 2022 3:10:19 GMT
NY Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch, essentially a tabloid and decidedly right leaning, and an opinion piece in a local newspaper is hardly evidence. There are a lot of falsehoods and misinformation in both of those links. Try again. mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/All of the links I provided are mostly neutral and the Wall Street Journal leans right with their opinions. Migrants and refugees are eligible for the covid vaccine, regardless of legal status. Anyone applying to immigrate is required to get the vaccine, with the exception of children not yet eligible and anyone with a medical condition that can't get the vaccine. www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1037410464/us-immigrant-visa-applicant-coronavirus-covid-vaccinePeople applying to immigrate to the U.S. will have to show they've been vaccinated against COVID-19 as part of a required medical exam, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services says. The new policy takes effect on Oct. 1.www.uscis.gov/newsroom/alerts/covid-19-vaccination-required-for-immigration-medical-examinationswww.axios.com/white-house-vaccine-mandate-migrants-f596f9c6-6a7b-49c6-9ad8-2bb03e596ab5.htmlIf you're going to suggest that migrants and refugees should be required to get vaccinated, I can't wait to hear you argue against mandates at the same time. I support mandates and agree with requiring migrants and refugees to get vaccinated, with a couple of conditions. They should be allowed to discuss the vaccine with a trusted medical provider in their native language. And they should not be singled out. As part of broader mandates with those conditions, I'm OK with that. Don’t bother, her unapologetic stupidity knows no limits apparently. I AM a US immigrant. I had to have proof all my childhood vaccinations in order to move here. As well as a chest X-ray. Because I was given all of them in the late 70s early 80s when electronic record keeping wasn’t great - I had to have them all again to move here - it is mandated. I did so without complaint. I’m more vaccinated than some US citizens, you prattling, ignorant bigot. 😡 And heaven knows we have our share of unvaccinated citizens.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 14, 2022 4:01:01 GMT
This is interesting….
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2022 4:34:27 GMT
" Garry Clement, a former Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer who is now an expert in money laundering, said any Canadian intermediary for the money should ask serious questions about its source, and its intended use, which could run afoul of Canadian money laundering regulations. “Do we want to have money coming from a foreign state that disrupts Canada? The answer is no, and that should be a concern to intelligence agencies and the RCMP,” he said." toronto.ctvnews.ca/anonymous-donations-to-convoy-as-high-as-215-000-concern-canadian-mps-1.5777497
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Post by cindosha on Feb 14, 2022 13:53:54 GMT
NY Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch, essentially a tabloid and decidedly right leaning, and an opinion piece in a local newspaper is hardly evidence. There are a lot of falsehoods and misinformation in both of those links. Try again. mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/All of the links I provided are mostly neutral and the Wall Street Journal leans right with their opinions. Migrants and refugees are eligible for the covid vaccine, regardless of legal status. Anyone applying to immigrate is required to get the vaccine, with the exception of children not yet eligible and anyone with a medical condition that can't get the vaccine. www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1037410464/us-immigrant-visa-applicant-coronavirus-covid-vaccinePeople applying to immigrate to the U.S. will have to show they've been vaccinated against COVID-19 as part of a required medical exam, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services says. The new policy takes effect on Oct. 1.www.uscis.gov/newsroom/alerts/covid-19-vaccination-required-for-immigration-medical-examinationswww.axios.com/white-house-vaccine-mandate-migrants-f596f9c6-6a7b-49c6-9ad8-2bb03e596ab5.htmlIf you're going to suggest that migrants and refugees should be required to get vaccinated, I can't wait to hear you argue against mandates at the same time. I support mandates and agree with requiring migrants and refugees to get vaccinated, with a couple of conditions. They should be allowed to discuss the vaccine with a trusted medical provider in their native language. And they should not be singled out. As part of broader mandates with those conditions, I'm OK with that. Don’t bother, her unapologetic stupidity knows no limits apparently. I AM a US immigrant. I had to have proof all my childhood vaccinations in order to move here. As well as a chest X-ray. Because I was given all of them in the late 70s early 80s when electronic record keeping wasn’t great - I had to have them all again to move here - it is mandated. I did so without complaint. I’m more vaccinated than some US citizens, you prattling, ignorant bigot. 😡 Not sure where you got that I'm a bigot.... I am assuming that you are a LEGAL immigrant and that your family didn't sneak over the border into the US. MY point **if you actually read my post** was that probably a very large number of ILLEGAL immigrants who poured over our southern border in the hundreds of thousands in the past year are NOT VACCINATED AGAINST COVID. I have absolutely NO problem with immigrants that come into our country legally. I welcome them. But I do have a big problem with the ones coming over unchecked. And there are plenty of them. www.borderreport.com/hot-topics/immigration/u-s-officials-come-across-nearly-2-million-unauthorized-migrants-in-fy-2021/And you are worried about some 80-90% vaccinated truckers?
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Post by cindosha on Feb 14, 2022 14:01:47 GMT
NY Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch, essentially a tabloid and decidedly right leaning, and an opinion piece in a local newspaper is hardly evidence. There are a lot of falsehoods and misinformation in both of those links. Try again. mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/All of the links I provided are mostly neutral and the Wall Street Journal leans right with their opinions. Migrants and refugees are eligible for the covid vaccine, regardless of legal status. Anyone applying to immigrate is required to get the vaccine, with the exception of children not yet eligible and anyone with a medical condition that can't get the vaccine. www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1037410464/us-immigrant-visa-applicant-coronavirus-covid-vaccinePeople applying to immigrate to the U.S. will have to show they've been vaccinated against COVID-19 as part of a required medical exam, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services says. The new policy takes effect on Oct. 1.www.uscis.gov/newsroom/alerts/covid-19-vaccination-required-for-immigration-medical-examinationswww.axios.com/white-house-vaccine-mandate-migrants-f596f9c6-6a7b-49c6-9ad8-2bb03e596ab5.htmlIf you're going to suggest that migrants and refugees should be required to get vaccinated, I can't wait to hear you argue against mandates at the same time. I support mandates and agree with requiring migrants and refugees to get vaccinated, with a couple of conditions. They should be allowed to discuss the vaccine with a trusted medical provider in their native language. And they should not be singled out. As part of broader mandates with those conditions, I'm OK with that.I'm ok with it too! As long as they are going through all of the proper channels. Immigrants and migrants do that! It's the correct way to come into the country. Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated. Do you understand the point I made now or do I have to explain further?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 14, 2022 14:22:01 GMT
No, why do migrants or refugees need to be vaccinated if the truckers don't? Their legal status is irrelevant to a discussion of vaccinations.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 14, 2022 14:54:52 GMT
Interesting that Rupert Murdoch mandates his employees at FOX be vaccinated!!
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Post by lindas on Feb 14, 2022 15:01:25 GMT
Interesting that Rupert Murdoch mandates his employees at FOX be vaccinated!! So what, a lot of private employers are mandating vaccines. My understanding is the truckers are protesting the government mandate, not an employer mandate.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 14, 2022 15:14:51 GMT
Interesting that Rupert Murdoch mandates his employees at FOX be vaccinated!! So what, a lot of private employers are mandating vaccines. My understanding is the truckers are protesting the government mandate, not an employer mandate. Because it’s hypocritical of all of the hosts to rail against all kinds of mandates but fail to disclose that they’re vaccinated and required to get the vaccine by Fox. When the hosts shout about mandates, I don't think they're making the distinction between employer mandates and government ones.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 14, 2022 15:22:09 GMT
No, why do migrants or refugees need to be vaccinated if the truckers don't? Their legal status is irrelevant to a discussion of vaccinations. You keep missing the point I am making if this refers to my reply to your post. You keep twisting what was said. I can't help you understand it anymore than I did. I'm done trying.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 14, 2022 18:09:08 GMT
No, why do migrants or refugees need to be vaccinated if the truckers don't? Their legal status is irrelevant to a discussion of vaccinations. You keep missing the point I am making if this refers to my reply to your post. You keep twisting what was said. I can't help you understand it anymore than I did. I'm done trying. “Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated.”You are making assumptions again with nothing to back them up. How do you know the folks who “sneak” into this country illegally aren’t vaccinated when they “sneak” in or that they don’t Get vaccinated once here? You don’t. I did check and according to the CDC and immigration groups it doesn’t matter your legal status in this country to get vaccinated. One won’t be asked that question and ICE won’t be lurking outside waiting to pounce. This is done to acknowledge this country has a large number of undocumented folks and the importance for everyone to get vaccinated. That would put the “sneakers” who aren’t vaccinated and can get vaccinated in the same category as the truckers where they can be vaccinated but chose not to. And all are assholes and they are the reasons for mandates. And to be clear about one thing. When these folks “sneak” into this country they don’t stand on street corners wearing a sign stating that they “snuck “ into this country illegally. They blend in and in most cases have family they go to and there are groups that help them. So yes, they can get vaccinated if they chose.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 14, 2022 18:13:43 GMT
Interesting that Rupert Murdoch mandates his employees at FOX be vaccinated!! So what, a lot of private employers are mandating vaccines. My understanding is the truckers are protesting the government mandate, not an employer mandate. Really? Which government mandate?
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Post by Merge on Feb 14, 2022 18:57:21 GMT
You keep missing the point I am making if this refers to my reply to your post. You keep twisting what was said. I can't help you understand it anymore than I did. I'm done trying. “Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated.”You are making assumptions again with nothing to back them up. How do you know the folks who “sneak” into this country illegally aren’t vaccinated when they “sneak” in or that they don’t Get vaccinated once here? You don’t. I did check and according to the CDC and immigration groups it doesn’t matter your legal status in this country to get vaccinated. One won’t be asked that question and ICE won’t be lurking outside waiting to pounce. This is done to acknowledge this country has a large number of undocumented folks and the importance for everyone to get vaccinated. That would put the “sneakers” who aren’t vaccinated and can get vaccinated in the same category as the truckers where they can be vaccinated but chose not to. And all are assholes and they are the reasons for mandates. And to be clear about one thing. When these folks “sneak” into this country they don’t stand on street corners wearing a sign stating that they “snuck “ into this country illegally. They blend in and in most cases have family they go to and there are groups that help them. So yes, they can get vaccinated if they chose. To add on to this - it’s so easy to tell when people have never met or been around undocumented immigrants. They’re just lurking out there breathing Covid germs on you when you sleep! Lol no. There have been massive vaccination efforts in many parts of Houston, targeting the poorer areas of town where undocumented immigrants often live. It’s made very clear that there is no citizenship requirement. They can also get tested/vaccinated through their kids’ schools in many cases - again, no questions asked. These people came here for a better, safer life, and for many, that includes protecting themselves against diseases. I guess if you’ve spent all your life in the rural north it’s hard to understand, but here, my kids have sat side by side at school with undocumented kids, and we know they’re not bogeymen out to commit crimes and infect people. They’re just people like us.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 14, 2022 19:05:28 GMT
You keep missing the point I am making if this refers to my reply to your post. You keep twisting what was said. I can't help you understand it anymore than I did. I'm done trying. “Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated.”You are making assumptions again with nothing to back them up. How do you know the folks who “sneak” into this country illegally aren’t vaccinated when they “sneak” in or that they don’t Get vaccinated once here? You don’t. I did check and according to the CDC and immigration groups it doesn’t matter your legal status in this country to get vaccinated. One won’t be asked that question and ICE won’t be lurking outside waiting to pounce. This is done to acknowledge this country has a large number of undocumented folks and the importance for everyone to get vaccinated. That would put the “sneakers” who aren’t vaccinated and can get vaccinated in the same category as the truckers where they can be vaccinated but chose not to. And all are assholes and they are the reasons for mandates. And to be clear about one thing. When these folks “sneak” into this country they don’t stand on street corners wearing a sign stating that they “snuck “ into this country illegally. They blend in and in most cases have family they go to and there are groups that help them. So yes, they can get vaccinated if they chose. you just keep making my point for me. Thank you for that!! We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 14, 2022 19:09:10 GMT
So what, a lot of private employers are mandating vaccines. My understanding is the truckers are protesting the government mandate, not an employer mandate. Really? Which government mandate? <Cindosha furiously googling “Canadian Covid mandates.” 😁>
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 14, 2022 19:16:49 GMT
I find this donation info interesting. The trucker donation site was hacked last night and this was leaked
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Post by Merge on Feb 14, 2022 19:17:17 GMT
“Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated.”You are making assumptions again with nothing to back them up. How do you know the folks who “sneak” into this country illegally aren’t vaccinated when they “sneak” in or that they don’t Get vaccinated once here? You don’t. I did check and according to the CDC and immigration groups it doesn’t matter your legal status in this country to get vaccinated. One won’t be asked that question and ICE won’t be lurking outside waiting to pounce. This is done to acknowledge this country has a large number of undocumented folks and the importance for everyone to get vaccinated. That would put the “sneakers” who aren’t vaccinated and can get vaccinated in the same category as the truckers where they can be vaccinated but chose not to. And all are assholes and they are the reasons for mandates. And to be clear about one thing. When these folks “sneak” into this country they don’t stand on street corners wearing a sign stating that they “snuck “ into this country illegally. They blend in and in most cases have family they go to and there are groups that help them. So yes, they can get vaccinated if they chose. you just keep making my point for me. Thank you for that!! We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. We have no idea if anyone is vaxxed or not by looking at them. Their immigration status makes no difference.
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Post by sawwhet on Feb 14, 2022 19:17:29 GMT
I'm quite amused going through the list of leaked donors to GiveSendGo. The majority of the funds to overthrow our democracy in Canada come from the US. Sixth largest contributor is Pogue Construction out of Texas contributed $20,000. The largest contributor to the fund was US Billionaire Thomas Siebel at $90,000. Another dude named Travis Moore from American Cryptocurrency donated over $17,000. They are tweeting one person at a time so it's taking a while.
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Post by gar on Feb 14, 2022 19:37:30 GMT
We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. You're talking about anti-vaxxers right? It's a problem for sure.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 14, 2022 19:43:59 GMT
“Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated.”You are making assumptions again with nothing to back them up. How do you know the folks who “sneak” into this country illegally aren’t vaccinated when they “sneak” in or that they don’t Get vaccinated once here? You don’t. I did check and according to the CDC and immigration groups it doesn’t matter your legal status in this country to get vaccinated. One won’t be asked that question and ICE won’t be lurking outside waiting to pounce. This is done to acknowledge this country has a large number of undocumented folks and the importance for everyone to get vaccinated. That would put the “sneakers” who aren’t vaccinated and can get vaccinated in the same category as the truckers where they can be vaccinated but chose not to. And all are assholes and they are the reasons for mandates. And to be clear about one thing. When these folks “sneak” into this country they don’t stand on street corners wearing a sign stating that they “snuck “ into this country illegally. They blend in and in most cases have family they go to and there are groups that help them. So yes, they can get vaccinated if they chose. you just keep making my point for me. Thank you for that!! We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. Yet again you are making the assumption that they don’t get vaccinated once in this country. In your mind illegal sneaker=unvaccinated period end of discussion. For all we know every single person who sneaks across the border does get vaccinated. WE DON’T KNOW! Which is different then making an assumption one way or the other with no facts to back up your assumption. But I did notice you went from “they are not getting vaccinated “ to “that are potentially not vaccinated “. Which means you keep changing your point. I mean if you have a point you should stick with it instead of changing it and complaining no one gets your point. Its kind of hard to get one’s point if they keep changing it. As to I’m ok with unvaccinated folks in this country? I guess you missed the part where I called those who can get vaccinated and don’t get vaccinated assholes. That applies to everyone , not only in this country but in the world, which would include the sneakers in this country.
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 14, 2022 19:51:56 GMT
“Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated.”You are making assumptions again with nothing to back them up. How do you know the folks who “sneak” into this country illegally aren’t vaccinated when they “sneak” in or that they don’t Get vaccinated once here? You don’t. I did check and according to the CDC and immigration groups it doesn’t matter your legal status in this country to get vaccinated. One won’t be asked that question and ICE won’t be lurking outside waiting to pounce. This is done to acknowledge this country has a large number of undocumented folks and the importance for everyone to get vaccinated. That would put the “sneakers” who aren’t vaccinated and can get vaccinated in the same category as the truckers where they can be vaccinated but chose not to. And all are assholes and they are the reasons for mandates. And to be clear about one thing. When these folks “sneak” into this country they don’t stand on street corners wearing a sign stating that they “snuck “ into this country illegally. They blend in and in most cases have family they go to and there are groups that help them. So yes, they can get vaccinated if they chose. you just keep making my point for me. Thank you for that!! We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. Do you know people who are undocumented? Are you friends with people who are undocumented? Do you spend time with people who are undocumented?
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 14, 2022 20:52:48 GMT
you just keep making my point for me. Thank you for that!! We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. Do you know people who are undocumented? Are you friends with people who are undocumented? Do you spend time with people who are undocumented? She would have no idea. A big percentage of people who are here and are ‘undocumented’ are people who came here on US visas and overstayed them.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 14, 2022 20:58:59 GMT
“Illegals who sneak into the country don't!! And if you are sneaking into the country ILLEGALLY, they are not getting vaccinated against covid. I'm not ok with that. You can't compare the truckers who are 80-90% vaccinated with the ILLEGALS who are not vaccinated.”You are making assumptions again with nothing to back them up. How do you know the folks who “sneak” into this country illegally aren’t vaccinated when they “sneak” in or that they don’t Get vaccinated once here? You don’t. I did check and according to the CDC and immigration groups it doesn’t matter your legal status in this country to get vaccinated. One won’t be asked that question and ICE won’t be lurking outside waiting to pounce. This is done to acknowledge this country has a large number of undocumented folks and the importance for everyone to get vaccinated. That would put the “sneakers” who aren’t vaccinated and can get vaccinated in the same category as the truckers where they can be vaccinated but chose not to. And all are assholes and they are the reasons for mandates. And to be clear about one thing. When these folks “sneak” into this country they don’t stand on street corners wearing a sign stating that they “snuck “ into this country illegally. They blend in and in most cases have family they go to and there are groups that help them. So yes, they can get vaccinated if they chose. you just keep making my point for me. Thank you for that!! We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. And you have no idea if anyone you encounter at a store, walking down the street etc is vaccinated. There are millions of American citizens that are unvaccinated and blending in all over the country. You're OK with unvaccinated truckers driving all around the country and blending in. The legal status of migrants and refugees is irrelevant. As we've already pointed out, they are eligible to get the vaccine. If you're suggesting that all migrants and refugees have to be vaccinated - how do you suggest the government do that? And why would it be OK for a mandate to require migrants and refugees to be vaccinated if you're against government mandates? You're opposed to the requirement that truckers be vaccinated but OK requiring migrants and refugees to be vaccinated? Why are they different from the truckers? Their legal status is irrelevant.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 14, 2022 21:03:02 GMT
To add on to this - it’s so easy to tell when people have never met or been around undocumented immigrants. They’re just lurking out there breathing Covid germs on you when you sleep! Lol no. There have been massive vaccination efforts in many parts of Houston, targeting the poorer areas of town where undocumented immigrants often live. It’s made very clear that there is no citizenship requirement. They can also get tested/vaccinated through their kids’ schools in many cases - again, no questions asked. These people came here for a better, safer life, and for many, that includes protecting themselves against diseases. I guess if you’ve spent all your life in the rural north it’s hard to understand, but here, my kids have sat side by side at school with undocumented kids, and we know they’re not bogeymen out to commit crimes and infect people. They’re just people like us. So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. I have way more of a problem with the millions of actual not vaccinated anti-vaxers blending in all over the country than the "potentially not vaccinated" undocumented workers.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 14, 2022 23:25:40 GMT
To add on to this - it’s so easy to tell when people have never met or been around undocumented immigrants. They’re just lurking out there breathing Covid germs on you when you sleep! Lol no. There have been massive vaccination efforts in many parts of Houston, targeting the poorer areas of town where undocumented immigrants often live. It’s made very clear that there is no citizenship requirement. They can also get tested/vaccinated through their kids’ schools in many cases - again, no questions asked. These people came here for a better, safer life, and for many, that includes protecting themselves against diseases. I guess if you’ve spent all your life in the rural north it’s hard to understand, but here, my kids have sat side by side at school with undocumented kids, and we know they’re not bogeymen out to commit crimes and infect people. They’re just people like us. So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. I have way more of a problem with the millions of actual not vaccinated anti-vaxers blending in all over the country than the "potentially not vaccinated" undocumented workers.What’s the difference? It’s all still people not vaxed. It’s not going to matter at all in the next couple of months anyway. The masking will be done (thank God, I never want to see another child with a mask on) quarantine will be done in the vax pass will be done. I can’t wait.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 14, 2022 23:34:12 GMT
you just keep making my point for me. Thank you for that!! We have NO idea if they are vaxed or not, right? So we have hundreds of thousands that are potentially not vaccinated blending in all over the country and you have no problem with that at all....mind blowing. And you have no idea if anyone you encounter at a store, walking down the street etc is vaccinated. There are millions of American citizens that are unvaccinated and blending in all over the country. You're OK with unvaccinated truckers driving all around the country and blending in. The legal status of migrants and refugees is irrelevant. As we've already pointed out, they are eligible to get the vaccine. If you're suggesting that all migrants and refugees have to be vaccinated - how do you suggest the government do that? And why would it be OK for a mandate to require migrants and refugees to be vaccinated if you're against government mandates? You're opposed to the requirement that truckers be vaccinated but OK requiring migrants and refugees to be vaccinated? Why are they different from the truckers? Their legal status is irrelevant. Truckers that are in their trucks. Alone. For 90% of their work day. And again the truckers protest it isn’t about the vaccine. It’s about all of the mandates. Nope, I’ve never had a problem with anyone that’s not vaxed. If you want a vax, get one. If you don’t, then don’t. If you want to wear a mask then wear one, I couldn’t care less, but don’t force anyone else to wear one. Especially children. I’m really done with the children’s mask mandates. Really done.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 14, 2022 23:39:19 GMT
I find this donation info interesting. The trucker donation site was hacked last night and this was leaked I’m curious what you find interesting about that.
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