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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 14, 2022 23:45:40 GMT
I find this donation info interesting. The trucker donation site was hacked last night and this was leaked I’m curious what you find interesting about that. I would have thought that to be obvious. That the greater percentage of it came from the US, not Canada.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 14, 2022 23:51:08 GMT
Donations by state
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 14, 2022 23:58:28 GMT
Damn, that’s a lot of impotent republicans in CA. 😏 Is CA14 Devin Nunes district? Oh it’s Jackie Speiers. Lots of big mad snowflakes there, I bet.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 15, 2022 0:07:21 GMT
Damn, that’s a lot of impotent republicans in CA. 😏 Is CA14 Devin Nunes district? Oh it’s Jackie Speiers. Lots of big mad snowflakes there, I bet. Dunno, but there was a single donation from CA for $90,000. 😳 Just crazy.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 15, 2022 0:10:57 GMT
I’m curious what you find interesting about that. I would have thought that to be obvious. That the greater percentage of it came from the US, not Canada. That math is wrong - looks like Canada is 39% Gotta love twitter users who don't know how determine a percentage - really gives me a warm and fuzzy that any of their facts are correct.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 15, 2022 0:12:47 GMT
I’m curious what you find interesting about that. I would have thought that to be obvious. That the greater percentage of it came from the US, not Canada. I don’t find that surprising at all!
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 15, 2022 0:30:07 GMT
I find this donation info interesting. The trucker donation site was hacked last night and this was leaked In case anyone gets upset..
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 15, 2022 0:36:59 GMT
I would have thought that to be obvious. That the greater percentage of it came from the US, not Canada. I don’t find that surprising at all! You don’t find it odd that another country has donated huge sums of money to a protest in Canada? What that tells me is that it’s political, and not just about mandates in the US. They have found a new rallying cry. Conservatives have replaced “Lock her up!” with “Honk honk!”
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 15, 2022 0:56:45 GMT
And you have no idea if anyone you encounter at a store, walking down the street etc is vaccinated. There are millions of American citizens that are unvaccinated and blending in all over the country. You're OK with unvaccinated truckers driving all around the country and blending in. The legal status of migrants and refugees is irrelevant. As we've already pointed out, they are eligible to get the vaccine. If you're suggesting that all migrants and refugees have to be vaccinated - how do you suggest the government do that? And why would it be OK for a mandate to require migrants and refugees to be vaccinated if you're against government mandates? You're opposed to the requirement that truckers be vaccinated but OK requiring migrants and refugees to be vaccinated? Why are they different from the truckers? Their legal status is irrelevant. Truckers that are in their trucks. Alone. For 90% of their work day. And again the truckers protest it isn’t about the vaccine. It’s about all of the mandates. Nope, I’ve never had a problem with anyone that’s not vaxed. If you want a vax, get one. If you don’t, then don’t. If you want to wear a mask then wear one, I couldn’t care less, but don’t force anyone else to wear one. Especially children. I’m really done with the children’s mask mandates. Really done. And again, which mandates? Simple question, really. You keep saying this over and over - it should be an easy answer for you, no?
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 15, 2022 1:13:31 GMT
I would have thought that to be obvious. That the greater percentage of it came from the US, not Canada. That math is wrong - looks like Canada is 39% Gotta love twitter users who don't know how determine a percentage - really gives me a warm and fuzzy that any of their facts are correct. The problem with Twitter is if you make a mistake/typo, you can’t edit your post. They’ve refused to give a tweet edit function for years.
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Post by sawwhet on Feb 15, 2022 1:14:58 GMT
I think this is the funniest thing going on this week. The Ram Ranch resistance. There are people who've infiltrated all the "trucker" meetings with a gay porn anthem. Tonight's meeting is live streamed on twitter. Bunch of losers. I wondered why the local folks had signs with hashtag RamRanchResistance. They've followed them from platform to platform listening in, broadcasting and playing this anthem. Ram Ranch Resistance
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 15, 2022 1:18:40 GMT
I’m honestly interested in how many are addresses in various government agencies. They’re entitled to donate their salaries where they want, but it seems to be a consistently, hypocritical Rand Paul approach at play.
Clearly, they hate the government and the idea of it, but are perfectly fine with it employing them.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 15, 2022 1:23:51 GMT
I don’t find that surprising at all! You don’t find it odd that another country has donated huge sums of money to a protest in Canada? What that tells me is that it’s political, and not just about mandates in the US. They have found a new rallying cry. Conservatives have replaced “Lock her up!” with “Honk honk!” No. And you’re just cottoning on to the fact that this political? The whole effing covid thing is political. And it has been since the beginning. 🙄🙄
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Post by cindosha on Feb 15, 2022 1:27:37 GMT
Truckers that are in their trucks. Alone. For 90% of their work day. And again the truckers protest it isn’t about the vaccine. It’s about all of the mandates. Nope, I’ve never had a problem with anyone that’s not vaxed. If you want a vax, get one. If you don’t, then don’t. If you want to wear a mask then wear one, I couldn’t care less, but don’t force anyone else to wear one. Especially children. I’m really done with the children’s mask mandates. Really done. And again, which mandates? Simple question, really. You keep saying this over and over - it should be an easy answer for you, no? I’ve listed them in previous posts on this thread.
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Post by sideways on Feb 15, 2022 1:27:46 GMT
You don’t find it odd that another country has donated huge sums of money to a protest in Canada? What that tells me is that it’s political, and not just about mandates in the US. They have found a new rallying cry. Conservatives have replaced “Lock her up!” with “Honk honk!” No. And you’re just cottoning on to the fact that this political? The whole effing covid thing is political. And it has been since the beginning. 🙄🙄 For idiots like you it’s political. The rest of us just want to minimize the damage of a deadly virus and get through it. But, you and your ilk have made sure that as many people as possible died/will die while giving the virus room and time to mutate. Great job. 🙄
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 15, 2022 1:28:12 GMT
Damn, that’s a lot of impotent republicans in CA. 😏 Is CA14 Devin Nunes district? Oh it’s Jackie Speiers. Lots of big mad snowflakes there, I bet. Dunno, but there was a single donation from CA for $90,000. 😳 Just crazy. Yeah. TX 03 and ID 01 made me laugh too. So much ‘oppression and tyranny’ here. 🥱🙄
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 15, 2022 1:32:45 GMT
You don’t find it odd that another country has donated huge sums of money to a protest in Canada? What that tells me is that it’s political, and not just about mandates in the US. They have found a new rallying cry. Conservatives have replaced “Lock her up!” with “Honk honk!” No. And you’re just cottoning on to the fact that this political? The whole effing covid thing is political. And it has been since the beginning. 🙄🙄 Lol, I knew that it was political, but didn’t think about Rs possibly using it as a wedge issue in the midterms. Maybe they won’t but it feels like a distinct possibility.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 15, 2022 1:46:56 GMT
And again, which mandates? Simple question, really. You keep saying this over and over - it should be an easy answer for you, no? I’ve listed them in previous posts on this thread. No, you didn't. You've talked about mask mandates and vaccine passports for restaurants and other venues. Those are all provincial mandates. Other than mandates for air and train travel, federal employees, and border crossings (something you emphatically said they were NOT about), the federal government's only COVID response was aid. So, if this protest were actually about "all the mandates", why tf were they in Ottawa? Were they lost?
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 15, 2022 1:50:53 GMT
I’m getting reminded of something, watching one side of an exchange on here. 😅
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 1:52:57 GMT
No. And you’re just cottoning on to the fact that this political? The whole effing covid thing is political. And it has been since the beginning. 🙄🙄 Political donations have whole different sets of rules than fundraisers for anti-vaxxer funerals and such.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2022 3:12:08 GMT
And you have no idea if anyone you encounter at a store, walking down the street etc is vaccinated. There are millions of American citizens that are unvaccinated and blending in all over the country. You're OK with unvaccinated truckers driving all around the country and blending in. The legal status of migrants and refugees is irrelevant. As we've already pointed out, they are eligible to get the vaccine. If you're suggesting that all migrants and refugees have to be vaccinated - how do you suggest the government do that? And why would it be OK for a mandate to require migrants and refugees to be vaccinated if you're against government mandates? You're opposed to the requirement that truckers be vaccinated but OK requiring migrants and refugees to be vaccinated? Why are they different from the truckers? Their legal status is irrelevant. Truckers that are in their trucks. Alone. For 90% of their work day. And again the truckers protest it isn’t about the vaccine. It’s about all of the mandates. Nope, I’ve never had a problem with anyone that’s not vaxed. If you want a vax, get one. If you don’t, then don’t. If you want to wear a mask then wear one, I couldn’t care less, but don’t force anyone else to wear one. Especially children. I’m really done with the children’s mask mandates. Really done. If this is true, why do you care if migrants and refugees are vaxxed or not? It's fairly clear from your posts that you object to requirements for white truckers to be vaxxed and at the same time continue to rant about people of color - migrants and immigrants possibly not being vaccinated. And truckers don't just stay in their trucks. They stop at rest stops to get gas, food etc.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2022 3:21:45 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2022 3:23:58 GMT
An interesting perspective www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/14/republicans-truckers-canada-cheer-chaos/By Jennifer Rubin Columnist | Follow Today at 7:45 a.m. EST Once upon a time, the Republican Party stressed social order, the rule of law and capitalism as a vehicle to deliver widespread prosperity. More recently, the MAGA crowd insisted it wanted an “America First” policy. Forget all that. Now, as evident in the GOP’s rooting for Canada’s right-wing trucker blockade protesting vaccine mandates, its goals are chaos, economic self-harm and lawlessness.Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) was among the recent right-wing politicians to cheer on the mayhem and root for it to come to the United States. The Post reports: “I’m all for it,” Paul, a longtime opponent to masking and vaccine mandates, told the Daily Signal, a conservative outlet, on Thursday. “Civil disobedience is a time-honored tradition in our country, from slavery to civil rights to you name it. Peaceful protest, clog things up, make people think about the mandates.” He added, “I hope the truckers do come to America, and I hope they clog up cities.” Lovely. I’m sure the American autoworkers sidelined because of Canadian protests don’t find Paul’s comments to be amusing. (NPR reported, “Carmakers have had to cancel more shifts as the Canadian protests halt traffic on Ambassador Bridge, a vital transport line. … General Motors has canceled two shifts at Lansing Delta Township assembly in Michigan due to parts shortages.”) Filled with resentment and fanning white grievance, Republicans no longer bother to feign concern for American workers. Law and order? Recall how Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) disclaimed any concern about White insurrectionists rampaging through the Capitol on Jan. 6 — but said he might have felt differently had they been Black Lives Matter protesters. Indeed, when Black Lives Matter protesters marched peacefully without even blocking traffic but heckled Paul, the senator professed that his “life was in danger” and called the demonstrators a “crazed mob.” Apparently, disruption is only a problem when certain people are involved.Parents threatening school board members? No problem! Thugs menacing poll workers? Go get 'em! Truckers occupying cities and sending our workers to unemployment lines? Swell! You would never guess this is the party that inveighs against Democrats for being weak on crime or anti-business. Whether it is amplifying Russian propaganda — as Johnson, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) have done — or rooting for Canadian right-wing rabble-rousers to make life miserable for ordinary Americans, the GOP’s white-grievance movement is increasingly anti-American. In the 1960s, Republicans accused the Democrats of fanning unrest in the streets to the detriment of the hard-working “silent majority”; now it’s Republicans’ ideological fervor that drives them to positions that threaten Americans’ health, financial well-being and physical safety. J.J. McCullough: Why Canada’s trucker protest is inflaming its national anxieties A party that considers it heroic to occupy major cities and wreak havoc on innocent people — or that thinks marauding through the Capitol and assaulting police officers is “legitimate political discourse” — is a party that is not antagonistic only toward democracy but toward the very notion of “ordered liberty,” which used to be a big deal for the right. This is what all authoritarian movements do, from European fascists in the 1930s to thugs in modern Belarus to mobs perpetrating violence against Muslims in India. As the Carnegie Endowment’s Rachel Kleinfeld has written, “Gang-backed governments fundamentally distort democracy. Public authority and private muscle collude to maintain power and narrow the range of people who can vote. In the resulting mobocracy, supporting policies, rights, or candidates outside accepted boundaries becomes difficult and in some cases dangerous.” Moreover, when democracies cannot maintain order, the cries for a strongman to restore calm intensify. The right wing’s infatuation with white grievance and increasing attraction to civil unrest at the expense of ordinary Americans is leading the GOP to increasingly perverse positions. Now, Republicans and their media cohorts root for economic distress, violence and disorder. And their newfound tendencies have a clear purpose: to undermine democracy and make way for the return of a strongman.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2022 3:29:00 GMT
One more perspective www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/10/canada-truck-convoy-protest-spawns-copycats/By Editorial Board February 10, 2022 at 1:14 p.m. EST A few hundred Canadian truckers, irate over their country’s strict pandemic restrictions, have used their tractor-trailers to paralyze the center of the capital, Ottawa; to threaten the auto industry by blocking traffic at three major border crossings with the United States; and now to demand the resignation of the recently reelected prime minister, Justin Trudeau. In their self-righteous embrace of an upside-down idea of “liberty,” they have spawned copycats planning convoys to incapacitate cities elsewhere, including in the United States, and prompted an outpouring of right-wing support and funding on both sides of the border and beyond. The truckers, calling themselves the “Freedom Convoy,” have leveraged their rigs’ brute bulk to intimidate the government and inflict economic damage estimated at hundreds of millions of dollars daily. They have flouted Canada’s laws and constitution and modeled a threat to peace and order elsewhere that goes well beyond the exercise of free expression.
Not all the truckers and their backers are ideological extremists or conspiracy fantasists —though some are, including apparent white nationalists who have borne Nazi and Confederate images into Ottawa’s staid streets. But their means of pursuing a motley array of goals are extreme and tinged by menace. For nearly two weeks, they have upended life in a city of 1 million residents, jeering at mask-wearing passersby, jolting residents awake by blaring their earsplitting horns, and prompting Canadian security officials to relocate Mr. Trudeau and his family from their official residence to an undisclosed location. The Canadian protests are not a facsimile of last year’s riot at the U.S. Capitol, where about 140police officers were injured amid more than 1,000 assaults; at least five deaths resulted from that event. Canadians, by their own national stereotype, are famously peaceable, and law enforcement has taken a notably cautious, nonconfrontational approach. Still, the lawless impulse is clearly inspired by the Jan. 6 insurrection. Former president Donald Trump has cheered on the truckers. So have other right-wing U.S. politicians and media figures whose stock in trade is inflammatory rhetoric and tribal division. Millions of dollars in donations — much of it from U.S. sources, according to Canadian police — have poured into social media sites ostensibly established on the truckers’ behalf. The protests’ triggering event was the Canadian government’s imposition last month of a vaccine mandate for truckers crossing into the country from the United States, a requirement already in effect for other Canadian citizens and international travelers entering the country, as well as for federal government employees and airline and railway workers. In fact, roughly 90 percent of Canadian truckers are vaccinated, and the Freedom Convoy has been spurned by the country’s main association representing truckers. Given those facts, the protests seem an amorphous uprising against pandemic restrictions generally and the Trudeau government specifically, along with a hodgepodge of other grievances. The irony is that Canada’s tough pandemic restrictions have contributed to a covid-19 death rate that is among the lowest in the developed world, roughly a third of that in the United States. The truckers are sick of restrictions — fine; who isn’t? But by crippling a major capital, subverting commerce and jobs, and advocating the overthrow of a fairly elected government, they have surged beyond legitimate protest into the realm of thuggery.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2022 3:29:45 GMT
And I'm relieved that nothing happened here at the Super Bowl yesterday
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 15, 2022 4:15:34 GMT
What’s the difference? It’s all still people not vaxed. Hey, you were the one with the "mind blown" about one group and not the other. Even after it was explained that the one you identified as "potentially unvaccinated" was more than likely to be vaccinated and the other was willfully, absolutely unvaccinated. So they are not "all still people not vaxed". And FWIW, none of the kids I'm around have any problems wearing masks. They are pretty matter of fact about it.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2022 5:00:06 GMT
What’s the difference? It’s all still people not vaxed. Hey, you were the one with the "mind blown" about one group and not the other. Even after it was explained that the one you identified as "potentially unvaccinated" was more than likely to be vaccinated and the other was willfully, absolutely unvaccinated. So they are not "all still people not vaxed". And FWIW, none of the kids I'm around have any problems wearing masks. They are pretty matter of fact about it.Exactly this. I work in an elementary school with kindergartens and first graders. Even the kids with significant sensory issues are fine with wearing masks. None of them have a problem or even complain about it. The only ones complaining are adults. And I look at masks differently. When I see one on a child, it tells me that the adults around care about the kid and want to keep him or her safe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 5:27:44 GMT
I would have thought that to be obvious. That the greater percentage of it came from the US, not Canada. The greater percentage of DONORS. However, in money, the greater part came from Canadians. (stats, it's tricky ) "Although Canadians gave more money than Americans, more than half of the donations to the convoy protest made through the crowdfunding website GiveSendGo came from the United States, an analysis of hacked data from the site reveals." www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-donations-data-1.6351292
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 5:43:54 GMT
This 52 yo trucker who won't be protesting any longer.
He liked to call President Obama the n-word, among his other erudite proclamations.
Marc is gone now in yet another preventable death.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 10:11:05 GMT
It’s odd how the American right isn’t losing their collective shits about having a caravan of potentially COVID-infected foreigners, sitting right at their borders. Sounds about white. Hmm. No, it doesn't. The objection is that the Biden wants to mandate the citizens of this country get vaccinated "for the safety of the country" and yet lets in about a million or more people illegally and DOESN'T require THEM to get vaccinated. And then secretly spreads them throughout the country. THAT is the objection. The hypocrisy. The abject failure to keep the country safe while claiming he's holding citizens to a standard - in order to keep the country safe. He DOESN'T hold the same standard of safety and FOLLOW THE SCIENCE in dealing with people entering the country illegally from the Southern border, that he demands from current citizens and people entering legally from the northern border.
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