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Post by sawwhet on Feb 8, 2022 20:29:16 GMT
but still 2.5%, a fringe minority. Keep in mind, this started as an anti-mandate convoy (which was supported by many but still a minority). It's weird because most of the mandates are at the provincial level but these people aren't rocket scientists. It turned into an occupation with thousands of citizens stuck in downtown Ottawa. Businesses closed. Gas tank storage on the streets. People not getting health care services because the workers can't get downtown. Now they have a MOU with demands to dissolve our elected gov't and putting these cement heads in charge. WTF don't you understand about this? Their aim is to stop democracy. Ottawa police stated a few minutes ago that 25% of the truckers downtown brought there kids with them. Cowards. Police also said they are working with enforcement in Ohio because people are trying to interfere with their response. Do you not believe in democracy? Or is democracy only fitting if your team wins? The Trump special. Nope, its to stop the ridiculous mandates. RIDICULOUS MANDATES!!!!! You don't understand how the various levels of gov't work in Canada. Why am I not surprised š The is only 1 federal mandate. You need to be vaccinated to enter Canada. The same mandate exists for truckers entering the US. All other mandates such as vaccine passports, lockdowns and masking are provincial matters. Trudeau can't cancel those. So indeed, it's not about the mandates. This is what they want. It has nothing to do with vaccines. Losers MOU Can someone embed this? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 20:30:38 GMT
No, they have just taken over the downtown for days, Since Jan 29th, and clogged the area with their vehicles. They have harassed residents and kept them awake with their air horns. I read that they have parked their vehicles across busy thoroughfares. So they are being disruptive for days on end. Nice people though, Iām sure. š It's a peaceful protest!!! And it didn't matter at that time to all who were justifying the riots during summer 2020. People who live there are saying otherwise. š¤·āāļø |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2022 20:44:08 GMT
It is not a peaceful protest. Maybe they should be treated as put into law in, possibly Florida where protesters can be run down if they are in the roadways.
Pack up your white privilege and go join them.
We need to protect our democracy as do the Canadians need to protect theirs....
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 20:46:52 GMT
It's a peaceful protest!!! And it didn't matter at that time to all who were justifying the riots during summer 2020. People who live there are saying otherwise. š¤·āāļø Just like the people in cities all over America that were burned down and businesses and their livelihoods destroyed during the riots. You can't even compare the two so don't even try.... |
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Post by sawwhet on Feb 8, 2022 20:47:18 GMT
It's a peaceful protest!!! And it didn't matter at that time to all who were justifying the riots during summer 2020. People who live there are saying otherwise. š¤·āāļø Peaceful as in 120 decibels of horns, air raid sirens, fireworks etc on a 24/7 basis for all local citizens. A protest would be at Parliament Hill. This is an occupation of the streets of downtown Ottawa. |
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 20:48:24 GMT
It is not a peaceful protest. Maybe they should be treated as put into law in, possibly Florida where protesters can be run down if they are in the roadways. Pack up your white privilege and go join them. We need to protect our democracy as do the Canadians need to protect theirs.... Are you now making this about race?? Are you calling me a racist because I believe in what they are protesting?  ?? |
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Post by cakediva on Feb 8, 2022 20:50:59 GMT
People who live there are saying otherwise. š¤·āāļø Just like the people in cities all over America that were burned down and businesses and their livelihoods destroyed during the riots. You can't even compare the two so don't even try.... You're saying this like it can only be peaceful protest or insane damaging riots. No middle ground for you. But the people living there say otherwise. Sure, it IS a protest. What it is NOT is peaceful. I don't call air horns & fireworks, harassments & fire starting peaceful. It's not a full on riot, I'll give you that. But it is not a peaceful protest either. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2022 20:54:56 GMT
It is not a peaceful protest. Maybe they should be treated as put into law in, possibly Florida where protesters can be run down if they are in the roadways. Pack up your white privilege and go join them. We need to protect our democracy as do the Canadians need to protect theirs.... Are you now making this about race?? Are you calling me a racist because I believe in what they are protesting? ?? I did not say that. I said pack up your white privilege. Although if the shoe fits, wear it! These are the people you are supporting: Those people carrying Trump flags and confederate flags and nazi symbols can just piss the hell off! |
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Post by cakediva on Feb 8, 2022 21:06:52 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 21:09:38 GMT
Hahaha, cement head. I actually laughed loudly out loud at that characterization. Seems fitting. It doesn't matter, their voice is getting heard....all over the world!! Most people I know are disgusted or just plain ambivalent. They just donāt care. The only people having the orgasms over it that you are, well, the less said about them as people, the better. |
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 21:10:39 GMT
This is exactly what youāre defending Cyndosha. And wanting to see so badly, in DC. Carry on. Keep digging. š I will say it again (and probably again and again) you are always going to get your nutbags waving a horrible flag. Its not anywhere near a white supremacist/nazi rally. You keep digging... I read this as āI know you are, but what am I?!ā Same level. |
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 21:22:26 GMT
Nope, its to stop the ridiculous mandates. RIDICULOUS MANDATES!!!!! You don't understand how the various levels of gov't work in Canada. Why am I not surprised š The is only 1 federal mandate. You need to be vaccinated to enter Canada. The same mandate exists for truckers entering the US. All other mandates such as vaccine passports, lockdowns and masking are provincial matters. Trudeau can't cancel those. So indeed, it's not about the mandates. This is what they want. It has nothing to do with vaccines. Losers MOU Can someone embed this? Embedding for you. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2022 21:22:52 GMT
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Post by drummergirl65 on Feb 8, 2022 21:23:05 GMT
Just because a person can't go into a restaurant for dinner doesn't mean you're oppressed. These "truckers" are nothing but big babies who has wrapped themselves up in a big ol' flag (you choose which one) and are play acting like they're going to war. They WANT to be heroes but they're just zeros.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 21:24:45 GMT
Thanks for sharing the info. Itās hard for some of us in the States to find local, accurate, current information. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 21:27:24 GMT
People who live there are saying otherwise. š¤·āāļø Just like the people in cities all over America that were burned down and businesses and their livelihoods destroyed during the riots. You can't even compare the two so don't even try.... Itās a different kind of protest, Iāll grant you, but it is extremely disruptive to both commerce and residents. If it wasnāt disruptive, they wouldnāt be doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 21:34:58 GMT
It's a peaceful protest!!! It is not a peaceful protest when you block public roads. It wasn't when the BLM folks did it. It is not now. You don't takeover the COMMON PROPERTY of the entire city/community unless you have a permit and only for a set period of time. ps - Mandates aren't "ridiculous". We're in a public health crisis - in case you've been too brainwashed to notice. You know the issue w/hospitals w/o beds and morgue trucks in the streets - let's not go back there again. Mandates are unnecessary when the SCIENCE/NUMBERS say so, not when the butt hurt snowflakes say so. |
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 21:38:04 GMT
I donāt call horns deliberately blaring outside houses at any time, peaceful.
The very intent of such an act, is to disturb the peace, to bring attention to your cause.
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Post by sunshine on Feb 8, 2022 21:52:10 GMT
Just because a person can't go into a restaurant for dinner doesn't mean you're oppressed. These "truckers" are nothing but big babies who has wrapped themselves up in a big ol' flag (you choose which one) and are play acting like they're going to war. They WANT to be heroes but they're just zeros. Wow, aren't you something.
These are the same zeros that were trucking food to feed your ass and trucking toilet paper to wipe your ass.
Typical left.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 8, 2022 21:57:57 GMT
Can you please pull out a quote or two that shows that it's not a small fringe minority.
PS - Minority <50%
"small fringe" minority is anyone's guess, but maybe < 15%?
its growing daily There are so many falsehoods in your statements on this thread, I don't know where to start. I think you need to look at sources other than Fox, Breitbart, OAN or NewsMax for your "research". Peaceful protests don't require mayors declaring a state of emergency. And peaceful protests don't involve the collection of information for prosecutions. Peaceful protests don't involve charges of hate crimes or FBI involvement.www.reuters.com/world/americas/protest-against-vaccine-mandates-paralyzing-canada-capital-mayor-says-2022-02-06/"(This) reflects the serious danger and threat to the safety and security of residents posed by the ongoing demonstrations and highlights the need for support from other jurisdictions and levels of government," he said in a statement.Amid residents' fury at the lack of official response, Ottawa police relocated some protesters and put up fresh barricades on Sunday, saying they are "collecting financial, digital, vehicle registration ... and other evidence that will be used in criminal prosecutions."Police said they had charged four people with hate crimes and were investigating threats against public figures jointly with the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation.www.npr.org/2022/02/08/1079212789/ottawa-trucker-convoy-protestOttawa City Councillor Matthew Luloff told NPR's Morning Edition on Tuesday that the protest has morphed into a more far-reaching and hostile demonstration against the government than was originally planned."Some of the most well-known radicals in this country have now descended upon the capital. Some of them are calling for violence. Some of them are threatening individual politicians," said Luloff, who also noted the presence of hate symbols and antisemitic flyers at the protest."Now at the same time, there are people within this group that are demonstrating downtown with legitimate concerns," he added, "but you don't have a productive conversation at the business end of a gun or the grill of a semitruck."Ottawa police made several arrests over the weekend, seized fuel from some protesters and issued more than 450 tickets. The city is also under a state of emergency, and a judge ruled that truckers couldn't sound their thunderous horns for 10 days.
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60297364They said there are currently 60 criminal investigations underway related to the demonstration over mischief, thefts, hate crimes and property damage.www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/05/canada-ottawa-trucker-vaccine-mandate-protest/Demonstrations in solidarity with the self-described āFreedom Convoyā also broke out during the weekend in other cities across Canada, including Toronto, Quebec City and Vancouver.
Authorities in Vancouver reported late Saturday that rocks and eggs were being thrown, cars kicked, āand nails being strewn on roadwaysā as several hundred vehicles rode through the city en route to the downtown core. Five arrests were made.
āItās not a protest anymore,ā Ford, the Ontario premier, said this week. āItās become an occupation.ā
āThe demonstrators ā¦ remain highly organized, well-funded, extremely committed to resisting all attempts to end the demonstrations safely,ā Sloly told reporters Friday. āThis remains, as it was from the beginning, an increasingly volatile and increasingly dangerous demonstration.ā
Ottawa police said Sunday that they had issued 450 tickets since Saturday and opened 97 criminal offense investigations. They said they were working with U.S. and international authorities to investigate email-based threats to public officials.
www.npr.org/2022/02/07/1078861392/ottawa-protest-state-of-emergencyThe Ottawa Police Service said on Sunday that it had issued more than 450 tickets since the previous morning, after "demonstrators exhibited extremely disruptive and unlawful behaviour, which presented risks to public safety and unacceptable distress for Ottawa residents."
The violations included excessive noise, use of fireworks, driving on the sidewalk, red-light violations, stunt driving and suspended licenses.
And on Sunday, the police ticketed 100 people, seized vehicles and arrested seven individuals primarily for mischief. The other notices were issued for excessive honking, driving the wrong way, not wearing seat belts, having alcohol readily available and other traffic violations.
Police added that they had responded to more than 650 calls for service since the protest began and have opened 97 criminal offense investigations ā primarily involving mischief, thefts, hate crimes and property damage. The hotline for hate-motivated crimes had received more than 200 calls, which detectives are investigating.
"Intelligence and evidence gathering teams continue to collect financial, digital, vehicle registration, driver identification, insurance status, and other related evidence that will be used in criminal prosecutions," it said, adding that police are also working with Canadian, U.S. and international security agencies to "investigate email-based threats to public officials."The blockade growing is not evidence that the truckers are supported by more than a small minority.
www.reuters.com/world/americas/protest-against-vaccine-mandates-paralyzing-canada-capital-mayor-says-2022-02-06/Canadian Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino said on Sunday that the government would not back down on the issue.
"We put the question of vaccines and vaccine mandates on the ballot ... in the (2021) election and we're simply carrying out the promise that we made with the support of the vast majority of Canadians," he said on CBC television.
The prime minister has said the convoy represented a "small fringe minority" and the government would not be intimidated.
www.npr.org/2022/02/08/1079212789/ottawa-trucker-convoy-protestAs Jacobs reported over the weekend, polling shows that Canadians are becoming more supportive of lifting certain public health measures ā "but that doesn't equal support for protesters' methods or some of the other far-right causes of the organizers in Ottawa."
www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/05/canada-ottawa-trucker-vaccine-mandate-protest/Vaccine mandates have been popular in Canada, according to public opinion polls, and Canada has one of the worldās highest vaccination rates. The Canadian Trucking Association, an industry group, has distanced itself from the demonstrations, noting that the vast majority of its truckers have been vaccinated.There are white supremecists in the group. It's not just the nutters and not just Condederate flags. There are Nazi flags, too. And 4 people have been charged with hate crimes. There are also militia groups and Q anon supporters in the group.
www.reuters.com/world/americas/protest-against-vaccine-mandates-paralyzing-canada-capital-mayor-says-2022-02-06/Protesters have paralyzed downtown Ottawa for the past nine days, with some participants waving Confederate or Nazi flags and some saying they want to dissolve Canada's government.
www.npr.org/2022/02/08/1079212789/ottawa-trucker-convoy-protestIn addition, signs for QAnon, right-wing militias and Confederate and Nazi flags have also appeared among the protesters, Jacobs said. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2022 22:11:10 GMT
Just because a person can't go into a restaurant for dinner doesn't mean you're oppressed. These "truckers" are nothing but big babies who has wrapped themselves up in a big ol' flag (you choose which one) and are play acting like they're going to war. They WANT to be heroes but they're just zeros. Wow, aren't you something.
These are the same zeros that were trucking food to feed your ass and trucking toilet paper to wipe your ass.
Typical left.
The vast majority of Canadaās truckers are not participating in this thing. The ones who are - the ones who are too afraid of a shot, poor babies - well, Iām comfortable with calling them zeroes. Especially after the hell theyāre putting medical workers through. Poor truckers, being asked to get a shot. Imagine having to work with hundreds of people each day per-vaccine. And the truckers and their allies want to pretend to be victims here? Sit down. |
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 22:12:29 GMT
Just because a person can't go into a restaurant for dinner doesn't mean you're oppressed. These "truckers" are nothing but big babies who has wrapped themselves up in a big ol' flag (you choose which one) and are play acting like they're going to war. They WANT to be heroes but they're just zeros. Wow, aren't you something.
These are the same zeros that were trucking food to feed your ass and trucking toilet paper to wipe your ass.
Typical left.
Arenāt you predictable? Someone addressing the specific behaviors, of what have been stated over and over again on this thread as a minority of truckers behaving reprehensibly, is extrapolated to mean every single trucker, including those who are vaccinated and want nothing to do with this. Just so you can take an imaginary moral high ground where there is none. Typical right. |
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 22:25:05 GMT
I donāt call horns deliberately blaring outside houses at any time, peaceful. The very intent of such an act, is to disturb the peace, to bring attention to your cause. Letās see, fire, Molotov cocktails, looting, shootings, decimation of peopleās livelihoods billions of dollars in damageā¦ or horns honkingā¦.Iāll take the horns honking. So will the thousands of people whose businesses were destroyed. itās not even a comparison. š¤£š¤£š¤£. Wow!!! |
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Post by valincal on Feb 8, 2022 22:29:13 GMT
Nope, its to stop the ridiculous mandates.Ā RIDICULOUS MANDATES!!!!! You don't understand how the various levels of gov't work in Canada. Why am I not surprised š The is only 1 federal mandate.Ā You need to be vaccinated to enter Canada. The same mandate exists for truckers entering the US. All otherĀ mandates such as vaccine passports, lockdowns and masking are provincial matters.Ā Trudeau can't cancel those.Ā So indeed, it's not about the mandates. This is what they want. It has nothing to do with vaccines.Ā Losers MOUĀ Ā Can someone embed this? I was just googling the MOU and lo and beholdā¦ canada-unity.com/mou/ |
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 22:29:50 GMT
Wow, aren't you something.
These are the same zeros that were trucking food to feed your ass and trucking toilet paper to wipe your ass.
Typical left.
Arenāt you predictable? Someone addressing the specific behaviors, of what have been stated over and over again on this thread as a minority of truckers behaving reprehensibly, is extrapolated to mean every single trucker, including those who are vaccinated and want nothing to do with this. Just so you can take an imaginary moral high ground where there is none. Typical right.
FFS. Itās a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. Personally I think itās members of the left or progressives who are infiltrating the protest and doing all the crazy confederate/nazi flag waving bullshit there. |
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 22:31:04 GMT
You don't understand how the various levels of gov't work in Canada. Why am I not surprised š The is only 1 federal mandate. You need to be vaccinated to enter Canada. The same mandate exists for truckers entering the US. All other mandates such as vaccine passports, lockdowns and masking are provincial matters. Trudeau can't cancel those. So indeed, it's not about the mandates. This is what they want. It has nothing to do with vaccines. Losers MOU Can someone embed this? I was just googling the MOU and lo and beholdā¦ canada-unity.com/mou/Sorry I donāt get my news from Twitter. |
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Post by librarylady on Feb 8, 2022 22:58:30 GMT
Notice of Formal Withdrawal of MOU by Canada Unity Ottawa February 8 2022 ā For Immediate Release It has come to the attention of Canada Unity that the Memorandum Of Understanding (herein referred to as MOU) does not reflect the spirit and intent of the Freedom Convoy Movement 2022 We represent the voice of many Canadians who desire to have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms upheld. We are everyday Canadians, not lawyers or politicians. We are immediately withdrawing the MOU as we do not want any unintended interpretations to continue. Our sole desire with the MOU was to have a document where Canadians could peacefully express their displeasure with current C19 mandates, and express their desire to be free. Canada Unity does not support or encourage any acts which tarnish democratic values held by Canadians. canada-unity.com/mou/ |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 22:59:18 GMT
Arenāt you predictable? Someone addressing the specific behaviors, of what have been stated over and over again on this thread as a minority of truckers behaving reprehensibly, is extrapolated to mean every single trucker, including those who are vaccinated and want nothing to do with this. Just so you can take an imaginary moral high ground where there is none. Typical right.
FFS. Itās a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. Personally I think itās members of the left or progressives who are infiltrating the protest and doing all the crazy confederate/nazi flag waving bullshit there. You think that based onā¦what? |
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Post by mariemily on Feb 8, 2022 23:11:36 GMT
truckers behaving reprehensibly
FFS. Itās a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. Personally I think itās members of the left or progressives who are infiltrating the protest and doing all the crazy Ā confederate/nazi flag waving bullshit there.Ā Cindosha is so mistaken here it's not even funny. It's occupation and harassment. It's in no way peaceful. I know first hand. I live 15 minutes from downtown Ottawa and I have friends who live and work downtown. So, about the left... I assume that you think that Romana Didulo is also the left infiltrating this convoy? (Google her) And this arson thing that the police is investigating? Also the left? Stop commenting on things you know nothing about. |
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 23:28:56 GMT
truckers behaving reprehensibly
FFS. Itās a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. Personally I think itās members of the left or progressives who are infiltrating the protest and doing all the crazy confederate/nazi flag waving bullshit there. You think that based onā¦what? Lmao, sheās such a troglodyte. š |
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