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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 23:39:35 GMT
FFS. It’s a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. P It is not peaceful when they are blocking public roads. I love how you keep ignoring this. That is AGAINST THE LAW. You can't impede citizens, commerce, emergency vehicles,
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2022 23:42:11 GMT
FFS. It’s a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. P It is not peaceful when they are blocking public roads. I love how you keep ignoring this. That is AGAINST THE LAW. You can't impede citizens, commerce, emergency vehicles, Is this not the pea who said she’d run over protesters blocking the roads? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Feb 8, 2022 23:44:57 GMT
Is this not the pea who said she’d run over protesters blocking the roads? Or am I thinking of someone else? “Someone else” is a relative term around here, as is “identity.”
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2022 23:48:33 GMT
Is this not the pea who said she’d run over protesters blocking the roads? Or am I thinking of someone else? “Someone else” is a relative term around here, as is “identity.” Fair.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 23:49:18 GMT
Is this not the pea who said she’d run over protesters blocking the roads? Or am I thinking of someone else? I believe you are correct. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/post/1542054/thread Feb 20, 2017 at 5:22pm Post by cindosha on Feb 20, 2017 at 5:22pm So should protesters who stand in traffic, block freeways, etc. I swear that if a protester stopped me in my car from getting where I wanted to go, I'd hit 'em. Cindy
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 23:51:50 GMT
You think that based on…what? Lmao, she’s such a troglodyte. 😂 Nice….
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2022 23:53:27 GMT
Is this not the pea who said she’d run over protesters blocking the roads? Or am I thinking of someone else? I believe you are correct. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/post/1542054/thread Feb 20, 2017 at 5:22pm Post by cindosha on Feb 20, 2017 at 5:22pm So should protesters who stand in traffic, block freeways, etc. I swear that if a protester stopped me in my car from getting where I wanted to go, I'd hit 'em. Cindy I’ll assume she’s on her way to Ottawa to take out this group, then.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 23:54:32 GMT
truckers behaving reprehensibly
FFS. It’s a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. Personally I think it’s members of the left or progressives who are infiltrating the protest and doing all the crazy confederate/nazi flag waving bullshit there. You think that based on…what? It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!!
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 23:59:50 GMT
You think that based on…what? It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!! We all have opinions. You have been told by Canadians that it’s disruptive, but I guess that Breitbart and Newsmax know best.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 9, 2022 0:08:11 GMT
So, a riot or bad action has to top another riot or bad action to be worthy of saying it is a bad idea/bad action?
As an aside, it is not a protest if you are bringing in bounce houses for the children and food trucks along with musicians performing on the back of a truck....that is settling in for a festival.
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Post by cakediva on Feb 9, 2022 0:16:40 GMT
You think that based on…what? It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!! I'll say it again: You're saying this like it can only be peaceful protest or insane damaging riots. No middle ground for you. But the people living there say otherwise. In fact, an actual pea who lives in the area has commented on the way it really is. Sure, it IS a protest. What it is NOT is peaceful. I don't call air horns & fireworks, harassments & fire starting peaceful. It's not a full on riot, I'll give you that. But it is not a peaceful protest either.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 9, 2022 0:24:43 GMT
Aren’t you predictable? Someone addressing the specific behaviors, of what have been stated over and over again on this thread as a minority of truckers behaving reprehensibly, is extrapolated to mean every single trucker, including those who are vaccinated and want nothing to do with this. Just so you can take an imaginary moral high ground where there is none. Typical right. truckers behaving reprehensibly
FFS. It’s a peaceful protest, noisy but peaceful. Personally I think it’s members of the left or progressives who are infiltrating the protest and doing all the crazy confederate/nazi flag waving bullshit there. Just like the Jan 6 insurrection. If it was Democrats in disguise or antifa, why would Trump promise to pardon them? FFS, It's not a peaceful protest. Noisy is disruptive to the people who live and work in the area. The truckers are blocking the road, a state of emergency was declared and the police have made more than 60 arrests and issued 450 plus tickets. Many peas have shown actual facts and evidence that it's not peaceful and yet you continue to deny and deflect. And make ridiculous statements with zero evidence.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 9, 2022 0:29:53 GMT
It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!! I'll say it again: You're saying this like it can only be peaceful protest or insane damaging riots. No middle ground for you. But the people living there say otherwise. In fact, an actual pea who lives in the area has commented on the way it really is. Sure, it IS a protest. What it is NOT is peaceful. I don't call air horns & fireworks, harassments & fire starting peaceful. It's not a full on riot, I'll give you that. But it is not a peaceful protest either. Nope. I’m saying it’s not a riot. I consider a protest peaceful if there is no destruction, burning, looting, destroying. What middle ground are you referring to? I didn’t say it was a quiet protest. I said it was a peaceful protest. And I’m not wrong.
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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 0:33:03 GMT
Just because a person can't go into a restaurant for dinner doesn't mean you're oppressed. These "truckers" are nothing but big babies who has wrapped themselves up in a big ol' flag (you choose which one) and are play acting like they're going to war. They WANT to be heroes but they're just zeros. Wow, aren't you something.
These are the same zeros that were trucking food to feed your ass and trucking toilet paper to wipe your ass.
Typical left.
These are less than 10% of Canadian truckers. Ninety percent of Canadian truckers have been vaccinated. So much that those that haven’t been vaccinated haven’t disrupted trucking at all. It’s been a non-issue, until they decided to throw a big temper tantrum. So, yeah…the truckers that are protesting are zeros. And so are you.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 9, 2022 0:37:17 GMT
Just saw this in the NYT
In Ottawa on Tuesday, several hundred trucks continued to paralyze the city center, but the nonstop honking of previous days appeared to have subsided. Reports on local radio in Ottawa said residents were able to sleep undisturbed for the first time in over a week. But many businesses have been shuttered during the protests, losing tens of millions of dollars.
The demonstrations in Ottawa started in January as a loosely organized convoy of truck drivers and protesters opposed to the mandatory vaccination of truckers crossing the U.S.-Canadian border. But it morphed into a protest against pandemic restrictions in general and the leadership of Mr. Trudeau.
The Ottawa demonstrations have also become a rallying cry for powerful far-right and anti-vaccine groups around the world.
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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 0:37:28 GMT
I'll say it again: You're saying this like it can only be peaceful protest or insane damaging riots. No middle ground for you. But the people living there say otherwise. In fact, an actual pea who lives in the area has commented on the way it really is. Sure, it IS a protest. What it is NOT is peaceful. I don't call air horns & fireworks, harassments & fire starting peaceful. It's not a full on riot, I'll give you that. But it is not a peaceful protest either. Nope. I’m saying it’s not a riot. I consider a protest peaceful if there is no destruction, burning, looting, destroying. What middle ground are you referring to? I didn’t say it was a quiet protest. I said it was a peaceful protest. And I’m not wrong. I see the village idiot has checked in. Funny how you’re ignoring the harassment of people of color, people wearing masks, lighting off fireworks between buildings in a city - some hitting buildings, the attempted arson and locking in of residents in an apartment building, and many other incidents. So, no. Not peaceful, you fucking dolt. It’s an insurrection and an occupation. Good grief. It’s so hard to believe that such a horrible person like you exists. 🖕🏻
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Post by cindosha on Feb 9, 2022 0:38:20 GMT
So, a riot or bad action has to top another riot or bad action to be worthy of saying it is a bad idea/bad action? As an aside, it is not a protest if you are bringing in bounce houses for the children and food trucks along with musicians performing on the back of a truck....that is settling in for a festival.I never said it was a bad idea/bad action. I think it’s great. Hey, they could be like antifa/blm riots. But it is totally not. A party is much better than a riot.
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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 0:43:19 GMT
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Post by cindosha on Feb 9, 2022 0:44:02 GMT
Nope. I’m saying it’s not a riot. I consider a protest peaceful if there is no destruction, burning, looting, destroying. What middle ground are you referring to? I didn’t say it was a quiet protest. I said it was a peaceful protest. And I’m not wrong. I see the village idiot has checked in. Funny how you’re ignoring the harassment of people of color, people wearing masks, lighting off fireworks between buildings in a city - some hitting buildings, the attempted arson and locking in of residents in an apartment building, and many other incidents. So, no. Not peaceful, you fucking dolt. It’s an insurrection and an occupation. Good grief. It’s so hard to believe that such a horrible person like you exists. 🖕🏻 What did I say that offended you? Oh , that’s right, I have a different view than you. You must be a real joy to live with. 😍😍😍 I hope you don’t have a husband or children, if you do, I pity them!!
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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 0:46:16 GMT
I see the village idiot has checked in. Funny how you’re ignoring the harassment of people of color, people wearing masks, lighting off fireworks between buildings in a city - some hitting buildings, the attempted arson and locking in of residents in an apartment building, and many other incidents. So, no. Not peaceful, you fucking dolt. It’s an insurrection and an occupation. Good grief. It’s so hard to believe that such a horrible person like you exists. 🖕🏻 What did I say that offended you? Oh , that’s right, I have a different view than you. You must be a real joy to live with. 😍😍😍 I hope you don’t have a husband or children, if you do, I pity them!! You are a horrible human being. Quite telling that you bring my family into the conversation. I do have a husband and kids. And we all hate people like you.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 9, 2022 0:54:43 GMT
So, a riot or bad action has to top another riot or bad action to be worthy of saying it is a bad idea/bad action? As an aside, it is not a protest if you are bringing in bounce houses for the children and food trucks along with musicians performing on the back of a truck....that is settling in for a festival.I never said it was a bad idea/bad action. I think it’s great. Hey, they could be like antifa/blm riots. But it is totally not. A party is much better than a riot. There is another option. Instead of supporting the truckers who are causing major disruptions and anything but peaceful, you could say I oppose vaccine mandates and support the opposition to them but condemn the violence and disruptions. Just like many on the left said we support protests for racial justice but condemn the violence. Since you insist on bringing up the black lives matter protests, here is some factual information on them. They were mostly peaceful despite whatever you may have seen on Fox or other right wing media. The Fox entertainers lost any remaining journalistic integrity and ethics when they essentially became advisors to the White House and contacted the chief of staff directly. Fox talk shows essentially became an extension of the White House, a form of state run media. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/21/line-between-trump-fox-news-isnt-blurry-it-barely-exists/thehill.com/hilltv/rising/411436-fox-news-contributor-there-is-no-separation-between-fox-news-and-the-trumpwww.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/16/this-summers-black-lives-matter-protesters-were-overwhelming-peaceful-our-research-finds/Here is what we have found based on the 7,305 events we’ve collected. The overall levels of violence and property destruction were low, and most of the violence that did take place was, in fact, directed against the BLM protesters.
First, police made arrests in 5 percent of the protest events, with over 8,500 reported arrests (or possibly more). Police used tear gas or related chemical substances in 2.5 percent of these events.Protesters or bystanders were reported injured in 1.6 percent of the protests. In total, at least three Black Lives Matter protesters and one other person were killed while protesting in Omaha, Austin and Kenosha, Wis. One anti-fascist protester killed a far-right group member during a confrontation in Portland, Ore.; law enforcement killed the alleged assailant several days later.Police were reported injured in 1 percent of the protests. A law enforcement officer killed in California was allegedly shot by supporters of the far-right “boogaloo” movement, not anti-racism protesters. The killings in the line of duty of other law enforcement officers during this period were not related to the protests. Only 3.7 percent of the protests involved property damage or vandalism. Some portion of these involved neither police nor protesters, but people engaging in vandalism or looting alongside the protests.
In short, our data suggest that 96.3 percent of events involved no property damage or police injuries, and in 97.7 percent of events, no injuries were reported among participants, bystanders or police.
These figures should correct the narrative that the protests were overtaken by rioting and vandalism or violence. Such claims are false. Incidents in which there was protester violence or property destruction should be regarded as exceptional — and not representative of the uprising as a whole. In many instances, police reportedly began or escalated the violence, but some observers nevertheless blame the protesters. The claim that the protests are violent — even when the police started the violence — can help local, state and federal forces justify intentionally beating, gassing or kettling the people marching, or reinforces politicians’ calls for “law and order.”
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 9, 2022 1:05:35 GMT
Maybe this will convince you the blockade is problematic. Canadian trucker protest spreads to second city, threatening U.S. auto industry lifeline Lengthy blockade could mean layoffs if companies can’t move their products. www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/02/08/truck-trade-vaccine-canada/Canadian truckers protesting coronavirus restrictions and vaccine mandates on Tuesday partially severed a key trade artery between the U.S. and Canada, threatening to further disrupt new car and truck production that already has been hampered by a prolonged shortage of computer chips. After blocking streets in the capital Ottawa for 10 days, the truckers brought their anti-government blockade to the Ambassador Bridge, which links Windsor, Ontario, with the city of Detroit. Each day, $300 million worth of car and truck parts, agricultural products, steel and other raw materials flows across the bridge, according to Flavio Volpe, president of the Auto Parts Manufacturers Association in Toronto. U.S. manufacturers rely on daily or near-daily shipments to and from their Canadian partners. Just one or two more days of interrupted deliveries could lead to temporary layoffs or plant closures, Volpe said.
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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 1:10:53 GMT
Maybe this will convince you the blockade is problematic. Canadian trucker protest spreads to second city, threatening U.S. auto industry lifeline Lengthy blockade could mean layoffs if companies can’t move their products. www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/02/08/truck-trade-vaccine-canada/Canadian truckers protesting coronavirus restrictions and vaccine mandates on Tuesday partially severed a key trade artery between the U.S. and Canada, threatening to further disrupt new car and truck production that already has been hampered by a prolonged shortage of computer chips. After blocking streets in the capital Ottawa for 10 days, the truckers brought their anti-government blockade to the Ambassador Bridge, which links Windsor, Ontario, with the city of Detroit. Each day, $300 million worth of car and truck parts, agricultural products, steel and other raw materials flows across the bridge, according to Flavio Volpe, president of the Auto Parts Manufacturers Association in Toronto. U.S. manufacturers rely on daily or near-daily shipments to and from their Canadian partners. Just one or two more days of interrupted deliveries could lead to temporary layoffs or plant closures, Volpe said.She’s in SE MI, so this should matter to her. But it won’t because she’s a selfish asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 1:18:04 GMT
It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. When something is your opinion, you say "I think X" or "I believe X" or "X is true, in my opinion." You don't say "X is true." That is a statement of fact. That needs to be backed up w/data,facts, evidence. When you say "These are peaceful protests." you are making a statement of fact, not opinion. Your facts are WRONG as has been shown NUMEROUS times. So, if it's your opinion that these protests are "peaceful", state it that way. Your opinion will still not have the weight of evidence behind it, but that's fine. BUT "Be Hard On Your Opinions. A famous bon mot asserts that opinions are like arse-holes, in that everyone has one. There is great wisdom in this… but I would add that opinions differ significantly from arse-holes, in that yours should be constantly and thoroughly examined. We must think critically, and not just about the ideas of others. Be hard on your beliefs. Take them out onto the veranda and beat them with a cricket bat. Be intellectually rigorous. Identify your biases, your prejudices, your privileges. Most of society’s arguments are kept alive by a failure to acknowledge nuance. We tend to generate false dichotomies, then try to argue one point using two entirely different sets of assumptions, like two tennis players trying to win a match by hitting beautifully executed shots from either end of separate tennis courts.’" – Tim Minchin
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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 1:25:37 GMT
It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. Be intellectually rigorous. Identify your biases, your prejudices, your privileges. She will never, ever, do that.
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Post by Rainy_Day_Woman on Feb 9, 2022 2:30:03 GMT
You think that based on…what? It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!! As someone who had to pass through the Toronto protests... there was nothing peaceful about it. I had to be in the general area of it for about 10 minutes, because I had to work downtown, and couldn't drive down because of the closures. They were blocking the entrance into transit. Minding my own business, I was no less than 8 times called various versions of "fat fucking bitch" "stupid fat c*nt" "brainwashed fat bitch," had garbage thrown at me and was "accidentally" shoved into a snow pile. I guess because I was walking, and wearing a mask (which is required to get onto transit), and well, apparently my ass is too big for... freedom? Who knows. Deplorable was always the right word.
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Post by cakediva on Feb 9, 2022 2:31:54 GMT
It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!! As someone who had to pass through the Toronto protests... there was nothing peaceful about it. I had to be in the general area of it for about 10 minutes, because I had to work downtown, and couldn't drive down because of the closures. They were blocking the entrance into transit. Minding my own business, I was no less than 8 times called various versions of "fat fucking bitch" "stupid fat c*nt" "brainwashed fat bitch," had garbage thrown at me and was "accidentally" shoved into a snow pile. I guess because I was walking, and wearing a mask (which is required to get onto transit), and well, apparently my ass is too big for... freedom? Who knows. Deplorable was always the right word. I’m so sorry…..
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Post by sawwhet on Feb 9, 2022 2:32:23 GMT
Sorry I don’t get my news from Twitter. It's a link to their website and the twitter link was their "news" conference. If you click on the link you'll notice that they just cancelled their asinine MOU. What a bunch of losers. Honest to gawd, not a brain cell between them.
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Post by valincal on Feb 9, 2022 2:39:56 GMT
It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!! As someone who had to pass through the Toronto protests... there was nothing peaceful about it. I had to be in the general area of it for about 10 minutes, because I had to work downtown, and couldn't drive down because of the closures. They were blocking the entrance into transit. Minding my own business, I was no less than 8 times called various versions of "fat fucking bitch" "stupid fat c*nt" "brainwashed fat bitch," had garbage thrown at me and was "accidentally" shoved into a snow pile. I guess because I was walking, and wearing a mask (which is required to get onto transit), and well, apparently my ass is too big for... freedom? Who knows. Deplorable was always the right word. Bastards. I’m so sorry. 😔
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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 2:51:54 GMT
It’s my OPINION, it’s a thought. I never said it was a fact. I still consider it a peaceful protest compared to the riots of 2020/2021!!! As someone who had to pass through the Toronto protests... there was nothing peaceful about it. I had to be in the general area of it for about 10 minutes, because I had to work downtown, and couldn't drive down because of the closures. They were blocking the entrance into transit. Minding my own business, I was no less than 8 times called various versions of "fat fucking bitch" "stupid fat c*nt" "brainwashed fat bitch," had garbage thrown at me and was "accidentally" shoved into a snow pile. I guess because I was walking, and wearing a mask (which is required to get onto transit), and well, apparently my ass is too big for... freedom? Who knows. Deplorable was always the right word. I’m sorry that happened to you. Deplorable is actually too good for them now. They’ve sunk lower than that. They are lower than scum of the earth.
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