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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 16:09:08 GMT
yes, you are very funny!! I'm enjoying this very much!! You do know that your comment makes absolutely no sense. I mean I understand what you are trying to do but you really didn’t succeed. But thank you for the chuckle. I really did get a good chuckle out of your “I do my research”. It reminded me of a toddler’s “so there” response when people are not buying into what’s she is saying. Sorry to the rest of the thread didn’t mean to kind of push it down the rabbit hole with my comment that had nothing to do with topic. But I really couldn’t help myself. “I do my research!” 😀 Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong. I am at liberty to choose any news sources I want, just as you are. It doesn't make my choices better or worse than yours...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 16:49:55 GMT
Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong Exactly. FACTS make views right or wrong. Look into them. Instead of just blindly saying stuff like "the majority are against mandates" w/o sources or evidence - especially when I cited TWO sources showing you are WRONG on the FACTS.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 16:59:57 GMT
Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong Exactly. FACTS make views right or wrong. Look into them. Instead of just blindly saying stuff like "the majority are against mandates" w/o sources or evidence - especially when I cited TWO sources showing you are WRONG on the FACTS. Your facts are based on someone's article. It doesn't make that absolute. You will have to show me where I said "the majority are against mandates". I said no such thing. I think you are putting words in my mouth...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 17:19:54 GMT
You will have to show me where I said "the majority are against mandates". I said no such thing. I think you are putting words in my mouth... Your exact words were "It's not a minority..." IT being the number of Canadians opposing mandates, presumably, since that what was being discussed. But you were given MULTIPLE sources showing IT IS a MINORITY. Care to show your sources for your claim that "IT" is not a "MINORITY". Or was "IT" in reference to something else?
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 17:33:54 GMT
You will have to show me where I said "the majority are against mandates". I said no such thing. I think you are putting words in my mouth... Your exact words were "It's not a minority..." IT being the number of Canadians opposing mandates, presumably, since that what was being discussed. But you were given MULTIPLE sources showing IT IS a MINORITY. Care to show your sources for your claim that "IT" is not a "MINORITY". Or was "IT" in reference to something else? "It" was in reference to trudeau saying it was a small fringe minority of people/truckers. It's not a small fringe minority. It's gaining strength daily. Again, I never said the "majority are against mandates".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 18:45:11 GMT
Your exact words were "It's not a minority..." IT being the number of Canadians opposing mandates, presumably, since that what was being discussed. But you were given MULTIPLE sources showing IT IS a MINORITY. Care to show your sources for your claim that "IT" is not a "MINORITY". Or was "IT" in reference to something else? "It" was in reference to trudeau saying it was a small fringe minority of people/truckers. It's not a small fringe minority. It's gaining strength daily. Again, I never said the "majority are against mandates". Where is your evidence that “It’s not a small fringe minority“? How discussion works is when you make a claim, you provide evidence for the claim.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 19:02:54 GMT
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Post by drummergirl65 on Feb 8, 2022 19:21:55 GMT
You do know that your comment makes absolutely no sense. I mean I understand what you are trying to do but you really didn’t succeed. But thank you for the chuckle. I really did get a good chuckle out of your “I do my research”. It reminded me of a toddler’s “so there” response when people are not buying into what’s she is saying. Sorry to the rest of the thread didn’t mean to kind of push it down the rabbit hole with my comment that had nothing to do with topic. But I really couldn’t help myself. “I do my research!” 😀 Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong. I am at liberty to choose any news sources I want, just as you are. It doesn't make my choices better or worse than yours... If you're not having to listen to those "protesters" honking their horns non-stop, get harassed for wearing a mask, watch as they piss all over the tomb of the unknown soldier, then just shut up. This isn't a majority.
Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong Yup, yes it does. My views don't align with nazi/white supremacists. I'm not wrong. It's not a valid world view. This whole conversation is ridiculous. Those people carrying Trump flags and confederate flags and nazi symbols can just piss the hell off! I'm Canadian, somewhat conservative, and these are NOT my people!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 8, 2022 19:29:11 GMT
From your CNN article... Protests notwithstanding, nearly 90% of Canada's truckers are fully vaccinated and eligible to cross the border, the Canadian government said. Demonstrators represent a "small, fringe minority," Trudeau said, and his government does not expect the vaccine mandate to significantly affect supply chains. Just over 80% of Canadians in all are vaccinated, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada.www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/americas/canada-trucker-protests-covid-tuesday/index.html
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 19:38:23 GMT
Can you please pull out a quote or two that shows that it's not a small fringe minority.
PS - Minority <50%
"small fringe" minority is anyone's guess, but maybe < 15%?
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 19:42:15 GMT
Can you please pull out a quote or two that shows that it's not a small fringe minority.
PS - Minority <50%
"small fringe" minority is anyone's guess, but maybe < 15%?
its growing daily
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Post by sawwhet on Feb 8, 2022 19:42:56 GMT
It is less than 2-2.5% of the population. We just had an election? Why didn't any of these cement heads run? BECAUSE NO ONE IS INTERESTED. If a million people showed up at Parliament Hill, that would represent less than 3% of our population. If you take a look at those at Parliament Hill, they are knuckle draggers. These aren't bright people. They feel that the right thing to do is overthrow the gov't because they believe that's what Canadians want. They were shocked that the citizens of Ottawa don't want them there because they arrived to "liberate" them. 🙄 They had a "press conference" (only their press) where they wanted opposition parties to join with them and overthrow the gov't. The want the Governor General to dissolve parliament. Firkin' delusional. Smacks of communism. Overthrow the gov't? Have their media only? Give me a break. What's the term when people with low intellect feel they have superior knowledge because they've watched Youtube videos? Yeah, that.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 19:42:57 GMT
It is a minority. The BBC article said about 32% of Canadians agree with the truckers. I have no idea if that number is right, but that’s what it says. If and when they show up here, I hope that their gasoline and generators are seized. They can honk their damn horns in the cold. Protesting is fine. Taking over a downtown for days is not. Not for left or right. No matter how mad you are, you have no right to ruin someone’s trade and constantly disturb residents.
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Post by sawwhet on Feb 8, 2022 19:44:21 GMT
Can you please pull out a quote or two that shows that it's not a small fringe minority.
PS - Minority <50%
"small fringe" minority is anyone's guess, but maybe < 15%?
It's less than 3%, closer to 2%. The same group that went to every Trudeau meet and greet during the election calling female journalists "c*nts".
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 19:45:33 GMT
It is less than 2-2.5% of the population. We just had an election? Why didn't any of these cement heads run? BECAUSE NO ONE IS INTERESTED. If a million people showed up at Parliament Hill, that would represent less than 3% of our population. If you take a look at those at Parliament Hill, they are knuckle draggers. These aren't bright people. They feel that the right thing to do is overthrow the gov't because they believe that's what Canadians want. They were shocked that the citizens of Ottawa don't want them there because they arrived to "liberate" them. 🙄 They had a "press conference" (only their press) where they wanted opposition parties to join with them and overthrow the gov't. The want the Governor General to dissolve parliament. Firkin' delusional. Smacks of communism. Overthrow the gov't? Have their media only? Give me a break. What's the term when people with low intellect feel they have superior knowledge because they've watched Youtube videos? Yeah, that. Dunning-Kruger. And I am stealing “cement heads.”
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 19:45:49 GMT
From your CNN article... Protests notwithstanding, nearly 90% of Canada's truckers are fully vaccinated and eligible to cross the border, the Canadian government said. Demonstrators represent a "small, fringe minority," Trudeau said, and his government does not expect the vaccine mandate to significantly affect supply chains. Just over 80% of Canadians in all are vaccinated, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada.www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/americas/canada-trucker-protests-covid-tuesday/index.htmlits not anti-vax. its anti mandate/mask/lockdown "small, fringe minority," Trudeau said, and his government does not expect the vaccine mandate to significantly affect supply chains.And trudeau said that the first day to try and deter people from joining. And, its starting to affect the supply chains.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 19:47:32 GMT
It is less than 2-2.5% of the population. We just had an election? Why didn't any of these cement heads run? BECAUSE NO ONE IS INTERESTED. If a million people showed up at Parliament Hill, that would represent less than 3% of our population. If you take a look at those at Parliament Hill, they are knuckle draggers. These aren't bright people. They feel that the right thing to do is overthrow the gov't because they believe that's what Canadians want. They were shocked that the citizens of Ottawa don't want them there because they arrived to "liberate" them. 🙄 They had a "press conference" (only their press) where they wanted opposition parties to join with them and overthrow the gov't. The want the Governor General to dissolve parliament. Firkin' delusional. Smacks of communism. Overthrow the gov't? Have their media only? Give me a break. What's the term when people with low intellect feel they have superior knowledge because they've watched Youtube videos? Yeah, that. This protest is not about overthrowing the government. There's your news sources making crap up.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 19:50:31 GMT
Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong. I am at liberty to choose any news sources I want, just as you are. It doesn't make my choices better or worse than yours... If you're not having to listen to those "protesters" honking their horns non-stop, get harassed for wearing a mask, watch as they piss all over the tomb of the unknown soldier, then just shut up. This isn't a majority.
Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong Yup, yes it does. My views don't align with nazi/white supremacists. I'm not wrong. It's not a valid world view. This whole conversation is ridiculous. Those people carrying Trump flags and confederate flags and nazi symbols can just piss the hell off! I'm Canadian, somewhat conservative, and these are NOT my people!
This is exactly what you’re defending Cyndosha. And wanting to see so badly, in DC. Carry on. Keep digging. 🙄
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 19:50:59 GMT
From your CNN article... Protests notwithstanding, nearly 90% of Canada's truckers are fully vaccinated and eligible to cross the border, the Canadian government said. Demonstrators represent a "small, fringe minority," Trudeau said, and his government does not expect the vaccine mandate to significantly affect supply chains. Just over 80% of Canadians in all are vaccinated, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada.www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/americas/canada-trucker-protests-covid-tuesday/index.htmlits not anti-vax. its anti mandate/mask/lockdown "small, fringe minority," Trudeau said, and his government does not expect the vaccine mandate to significantly affect supply chains.And trudeau said that the first day to try and deter people from joining. And, its starting to affect the supply chains. Disrupting the supply chains? Well well well. Those truckers sure know how to win friends and gain popularity.. I bet all of the incels in Canada are rushing to join in solidarity with these patriots. 🥴
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 19:52:14 GMT
It is a minority. The BBC article said about 32% of Canadians agree with the truckers. I have no idea if that number is right, but that’s what it says. If and when they show up here, I hope that their gasoline and generators are seized. They can honk their damn horns in the cold. Protesting is fine. Taking over a downtown for days is not. Not for left or right. No matter how mad you are, you have no right to ruin someone’s trade and constantly disturb residents.Oh wow, really!!! you mean like seattle, portland, minneapolis, new york, etc. Oh yeah!!! That's right, it was months and months for those cities...and they were riots, not protests!!! They are protesting, not rioting....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 19:52:48 GMT
Can you please pull out a quote or two that shows that it's not a small fringe minority.
PS - Minority <50%
"small fringe" minority is anyone's guess, but maybe < 15%? its growing daily Please go back to your sources and cite one that shows where the anti-mask/anti-vax is "not a small fringe minority".
Reminder: Minority < 50%. Small fringe minority, as that term was not defined, could be anything less than that, but let's go w/<15%
I'll wait.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 8, 2022 19:53:15 GMT
It is less than 2-2.5% of the population. We just had an election? Why didn't any of these cement heads run? BECAUSE NO ONE IS INTERESTED. If a million people showed up at Parliament Hill, that would represent less than 3% of our population. If you take a look at those at Parliament Hill, they are knuckle draggers. These aren't bright people. They feel that the right thing to do is overthrow the gov't because they believe that's what Canadians want. They were shocked that the citizens of Ottawa don't want them there because they arrived to "liberate" them. 🙄 They had a "press conference" (only their press) where they wanted opposition parties to join with them and overthrow the gov't. The want the Governor General to dissolve parliament. Firkin' delusional. Smacks of communism. Overthrow the gov't? Have their media only? Give me a break. What's the term when people with low intellect feel they have superior knowledge because they've watched Youtube videos? Yeah, that. Hahaha, cement head. I actually laughed loudly out loud at that characterization. Seems fitting.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 19:54:51 GMT
If you're not having to listen to those "protesters" honking their horns non-stop, get harassed for wearing a mask, watch as they piss all over the tomb of the unknown soldier, then just shut up. This isn't a majority.
Just because someone's views don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong Yup, yes it does. My views don't align with nazi/white supremacists. I'm not wrong. It's not a valid world view. This whole conversation is ridiculous. Those people carrying Trump flags and confederate flags and nazi symbols can just piss the hell off! I'm Canadian, somewhat conservative, and these are NOT my people!
This is exactly what you’re defending Cyndosha. And wanting to see so badly, in DC. Carry on. Keep digging. 🙄 I will say it again (and probably again and again) you are always going to get your nutbags waving a horrible flag. Its not anywhere near a white supremacist/nazi rally. You keep digging...
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 19:56:04 GMT
It is less than 2-2.5% of the population. We just had an election? Why didn't any of these cement heads run? BECAUSE NO ONE IS INTERESTED. If a million people showed up at Parliament Hill, that would represent less than 3% of our population. If you take a look at those at Parliament Hill, they are knuckle draggers. These aren't bright people. They feel that the right thing to do is overthrow the gov't because they believe that's what Canadians want. They were shocked that the citizens of Ottawa don't want them there because they arrived to "liberate" them. 🙄 They had a "press conference" (only their press) where they wanted opposition parties to join with them and overthrow the gov't. The want the Governor General to dissolve parliament. Firkin' delusional. Smacks of communism. Overthrow the gov't? Have their media only? Give me a break. What's the term when people with low intellect feel they have superior knowledge because they've watched Youtube videos? Yeah, that. Hahaha, cement head. I actually laughed loudly out loud at that characterization. Seems fitting. It doesn't matter, their voice is getting heard....all over the world!!
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 20:02:57 GMT
It is a minority. The BBC article said about 32% of Canadians agree with the truckers. I have no idea if that number is right, but that’s what it says. If and when they show up here, I hope that their gasoline and generators are seized. They can honk their damn horns in the cold. Protesting is fine. Taking over a downtown for days is not. Not for left or right. No matter how mad you are, you have no right to ruin someone’s trade and constantly disturb residents.Oh wow, really!!! you mean like seattle, portland, minneapolis, new york, etc. Oh yeah!!! That's right, it was months and months for those cities...and they were riots, not protests!!! They are protesting, not rioting.... Yes. I do mean it. And people who destroyed property should have been arrested and charged. Don’t forget though ,that some of the violence involved clashes between left an right-wing groups. But yep, if you are setting fires or destroying property, then your ass should be in jail. These people in Canada? I read that at least some of their supplies, esp gasoline, are being cut off. Sounds good to me.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 20:11:28 GMT
Oh wow, really!!! you mean like seattle, portland, minneapolis, new york, etc. Oh yeah!!! That's right, it was months and months for those cities...and they were riots, not protests!!! They are protesting, not rioting.... Yes. I do mean it. And people who destroyed property should have been arrested and charged. Don’t forget though ,that some of the violence involved clashes between left an right-wing groups. But yep, if you are setting fires or destroying property, then your ass should be in jail.These people in Canada? I read that at least some of their supplies, esp gasoline, are being cut off. Sounds good to me. Too bad that didn't happen though, or if it did, they were released on no bail, thanks to the liberal governors and AG's in many of those cities. Also, people will find a way to keep the truckers supplied.... And the truckers are not starting fires and destroying property.
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Post by sawwhet on Feb 8, 2022 20:17:37 GMT
Hahaha, cement head. I actually laughed loudly out loud at that characterization. Seems fitting. It doesn't matter, their voice is getting heard....all over the world!! but still 2.5%, a fringe minority. Keep in mind, this started as an anti-mandate convoy (which was supported by many but still a minority). It's weird because most of the mandates are at the provincial level but these people aren't rocket scientists. It turned into an occupation with thousands of citizens stuck in downtown Ottawa. Businesses closed. Gas tank storage on the streets. People not getting health care services because the workers can't get downtown. Now they have a MOU with demands to dissolve our elected gov't and putting these cement heads in charge. WTF don't you understand about this? Their aim is to stop democracy. Ottawa police stated a few minutes ago that 25% of the truckers downtown brought there kids with them. Cowards. Police also said they are working with enforcement in Ohio because people are trying to interfere with their response. Do you not believe in democracy? Or is democracy only fitting if your team wins? The Trump special.
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 20:21:52 GMT
It doesn't matter, their voice is getting heard....all over the world!! but still 2.5%, a fringe minority. Keep in mind, this started as an anti-mandate convoy (which was supported by many but still a minority). It's weird because most of the mandates are at the provincial level but these people aren't rocket scientists. It turned into an occupation with thousands of citizens stuck in downtown Ottawa. Businesses closed. Gas tank storage on the streets. People not getting health care services because the workers can't get downtown. Now they have a MOU with demands to dissolve our elected gov't and putting these cement heads in charge. WTF don't you understand about this? Their aim is to stop democracy. Ottawa police stated a few minutes ago that 25% of the truckers downtown brought there kids with them. Cowards. Police also said they are working with enforcement in Ohio because people are trying to interfere with their response. Do you not believe in democracy? Or is democracy only fitting if your team wins? The Trump special. Nope, its to stop the ridiculous mandates. RIDICULOUS MANDATES!!!!!
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 8, 2022 20:22:17 GMT
Yes. I do mean it. And people who destroyed property should have been arrested and charged. Don’t forget though ,that some of the violence involved clashes between left an right-wing groups. But yep, if you are setting fires or destroying property, then your ass should be in jail.These people in Canada? I read that at least some of their supplies, esp gasoline, are being cut off. Sounds good to me. Too bad that didn't happen though, or if it did, they were released on no bail, thanks to the liberal governors and AG's in many of those cities. Also, people will find a way to keep the truckers supplied.... And the truckers are not starting fires and destroying property. No, they have just taken over the downtown for days, Since Jan 29th, and clogged the area with their vehicles. They have harassed residents and kept them awake with their air horns. I read that they have parked their vehicles across busy thoroughfares. So they are being disruptive for days on end. Nice people though, I’m sure. 👀
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Post by cindosha on Feb 8, 2022 20:27:51 GMT
Too bad that didn't happen though, or if it did, they were released on no bail, thanks to the liberal governors and AG's in many of those cities. Also, people will find a way to keep the truckers supplied.... And the truckers are not starting fires and destroying property. No, they have just taken over the downtown for days, Since Jan 29th, and clogged the area with their vehicles. They have harassed residents and kept them awake with their air horns. I read that they have parked their vehicles across busy thoroughfares. So they are being disruptive for days on end. Nice people though, I’m sure. 👀 It's a peaceful protest!!! And it didn't matter at that time to all who were justifying the riots during summer 2020.
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