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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 0:41:23 GMT
I hope this will be a very broad discussion without judgment. I just need some food for thought and who better to discuss with than you guys.
But how do you spend your free time? Do you engage in activities you think are a waste of time? What does that term mean to you? Do you feel pulled to change how you spend your time? Are you content with it? Were you raised in a particular environment that impacts how you spend your time? Do your current life circumstances dictate how you spend your free time?
Basically I thought we could have a discussion about how you feel about your free time? Do you find it productive? How much of it do you actually have outside of work, sleep, and family activities?
Are you judgmental of the way others spend their time even in cases where it doesn't directly impact you?
I will chime in as things go along. But I wanted to say that I'm going through the empty nest transition. I'm finding myself with a lot more time on my hands these days. I've basically outsourced things I don't find pleasurable, like big cleaning twice month. I've been reading some books with conflicting messages. And I was raised in a household where sitting still wasn't really an option. And I'm fighting a long game battle with my mental illness. When I feel good, I feel compelled to do all the things and when I feel bad I beat myself up about it. And I feel like I'm trying to do all the things I possibly can to stretch my mind and keep it sharp because I'm terrified of what long term use of psychiatric drugs is going to do to me.
Anyway, I'm an early bird so I might not be able to come back until early tomorrow morning but I'm just curious your thoughts on some of the questions I've raised or whatever you want to add.
Like I said, I thought this could be a fluid discussion and I have no map for how I want this to go. I just want to hear your thoughts.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 11, 2022 1:05:55 GMT
I work 7am to 4pm. I am at home so I walk an hour most day with a friend at lunch. I have DS at home. He plays soccer and golf so I am still transporting him to stuff or watching his activities. After work I like to read or watch tv. I am still involved with the Boy Scout and Girl Scouts orgs. I’m a merit badge counselor at BS and help the advancement chair. For GS I review Gold Award proposals and sometimes offer training for the higher awards. I have significantly scaled back in volunteering tho due to Covid. But those orgs gave me and my children a lot of joy and experiences. And I have met the best people too!
eta I don’t feel guilty how I spend my time. DH has been doing puzzles and legos. My DD is at college now so I feel like with only one kid in the house there’s a lot more me time!
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 11, 2022 1:08:49 GMT
I don't judge people. Sometimes I sit and watch TV all night. Sometimes I read. Sometimes I take a bath. Those are my big three.
I also hang out with my kid (when he wants to) and sometimes go out to dinner or to an event.
Sometimes I go walk with a friend.
What should I be doing?
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 1:11:27 GMT
I don't judge people. Sometimes I sit and watch TV all night. Sometimes I read. Sometimes I take a bath. Those are my big three. I also hang out with my kid (when he wants to) and sometimes go out to dinner or to an event. Sometimes I go walk with a friend. What should I be doing? I don't know. I'm just saying I'm going through a transition and trying to figure out in my mind what is the right way to spend all my free time. Lol! I feel like I'm running sprints all the time. Sprint and crash and sprint and crash. I'm trying to learn from all of you.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 1:13:09 GMT
I work 7am to 4pm. I am at home so I walk an hour most day with a friend at lunch. I have DS at home. He plays soccer and golf so I am still transporting him to stuff or watching his activities. After work I like to read or watch tv. I am still involved with the Boy Scout and Girl Scouts orgs. I’m a merit badge counselor at BS and help the advancement chair. For GS I review Gold Award proposals and sometimes offer training for the higher awards. I have significantly scaled back in volunteering tho due to Covid. But those orgs gave me and my children a lot of joy and experiences. And I have met the best people too! eta I don’t feel guilty how I spend my time. DH has been doing puzzles and legos. My DD is at college now so I feel like with only one kid in the house there’s a lot more me time! That's what I'm having a hard time with I think. Outside of work, it's basically all me time. And it hasn't been this way in so very long. I'm not sure what to do with it. You sound like you have a great balance. I need more balance.
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 11, 2022 1:19:58 GMT
I don't judge people. Sometimes I sit and watch TV all night. Sometimes I read. Sometimes I take a bath. Those are my big three. I also hang out with my kid (when he wants to) and sometimes go out to dinner or to an event. Sometimes I go walk with a friend. What should I be doing? I don't know. I'm just saying I'm going through a transition and trying to figure out in my mind what is the right way to spend all my free time. Lol! I feel like I'm running sprints all the time. Sprint and crash and sprint and crash. I'm trying to learn from all of you. The day to day of my job as a teacher has me going a mile a minute. I am trying to shape their academic, social, and emotional lives. I am putting out fires in the building. I have students who are looking at homelessness, abuse, fear, and anxiety. I give them everything I have the entire school day and they know how to get in touch with me if they don't feel safe at night. I need downtime that is mindless. I am also taking a couple of classes. Personally, I think anything that you enjoy as long as you aren't ignoring responsibilities is a great use of your time.
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Post by paget on Feb 11, 2022 1:20:48 GMT
I always like your questions/discussions jeremysgirl, I think they are interesting. Like many people, I would assume, my amount of free time and what I have done with it changed a lot through the years based on my responsibilities and interests. First off, I really don’t consider anything I do in my free time a “waste of time.” I am truly not judgemental about how others spend their free time, either (and I can be plenty judgy about other things! 😂). I think for me, anything I am doing in my free time is something I choose and it is meeting some need for me- whether it’s creating something, being healthy (working out), or relaxing/recharging by enjoying something like surfing my phone or TV or napping or whatever. I currently have more free time than I ever have since I have an empty nest, I’m not in school anymore, and I work from home which ended my couple hour a day commute. The bulk of my free time the past couple years is spent working out. I do yoga, spin, walk, lift weights. I also play pickleball and hike. I also scrapbook and have recently increased my time with this. I also spend quite a bit of time on my phone- here, YouTube, other groups, etc. I also play games and go out with family or my best friend for dinner/drinks. I barely watch any TV but have nothing against TV- I have watched TONS of tv during my free time in the past - it’s just not what I’m currently in to. I also used to read a lot but going back for my BA and MSW killed any desire to read since I did so much reading and writing papers. Maybe I’ll want to again at some point. I didn’t grow up feeling judged about my free time and it sounds like that might be where you are coming from? I feel like when I work I work hard and when it’s my free time I do what I want and enjoy the crap out of it. 😂
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Post by scrapngranny on Feb 11, 2022 1:23:30 GMT
We are empty nesters. My time is spent to all the everyday jobs to keep the house running. I’m not as ridge as my mother was. I don’t do things on a certain days, except washing, and I can be lead astray from that with a better offer.
I spend time with my dog and care for her. I brush her every day and she seldom lets me off the hook on that.
The rest of the day I read, work on whatever craft projects that I have going on. I go to lunch with my friends and watch tv.
Basically, DH and I split the chores. The outside belongs to him and the inside is mine. The past couple of weeks I have working in the yard. This as come about because he has let a lot of things go, mostly because his arthritis has been bothering him and frankly he doesn’t give a damn. I have sort of been enjoying getting out there and fleshing up the yard. He as been coming out with me and we have tackled it together. My standards are much higher than his and I realize that is my issue.
On the whole, I don’t feel guilty about how I spend any of my time. I worked for my retirement and feel free to do what I want.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 11, 2022 1:23:31 GMT
Until the pandemic I either worked late or had kids' activities pretty much every night so I didn't really have much free time. It depends on the season, but right now I have more free time than I have in the past. I find myself not really doing much. Sometimes paperwork, sometimes just sitting around. I do think I could be more productive (cleaning more, or scrapbooking instead of surfing the internet) and feel guilty about it at times.
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Post by lindamh on Feb 11, 2022 1:24:10 GMT
This is something I'm struggling with now. I retired from 40 years of teaching elementary school a year and a half ago. We immediately started building a new home in a new state and moved 6 months later. Due to slow-downs and delays due to Covid we spent another good 8 months getting furniture bought and things about the house finished up and just generally getting settled. Kept us very busy and always thinking ahead and planning. All of a sudden, this fall things mostly fell into place and I found myself with days with nothing to do!
I thought retirement would be easy. I was a teacher and was used to summer break. I figured retirement was going to be one long summer break. Think again! The two are nothing alike! I had lots of plans of things I wanted to do when I retired. A huge stash of scrapping supplies that I was going to use. I would finally have time to practice my piano and hammered dulcimer. I had a stash of books to read. I would volunteer at the local theater and the local school. We had a list of places we were going to travel to in our new home state. I was prepared to have this wonderful retirement. Covid put a crimp in some of those plans, but I had plenty to keep me busy at home.
So, here I was with all the time in the world, things to do, and I couldn't bring myself to find the motivation to do any of it. And then I'd feel guilty when I'd spend a whole day pretty much doing nothing. Chores around the house didn't get done in the timeframe that I thought they should and then I'd feel more guilt. I was a hot mess for a bit! Thanks to a wonderful husband and a good bit of prayer (spending time really thinking things through) I'm starting to figure this out. I've realized that I don't have to feel guilty for not working. I worked hard for 40 years. I've earned the money that got us to this place and it's okay if I enjoy it. And, just because I have this time doesn't mean I have to fill every minute of it. Time is different now. There are days when I go full-steam ahead and get a lot done and there are days when I spend most of the day sitting on the porch and looking at those lovely mountains - and snow! We didn't have much of that in the 47 years I lived in south Florida! As long as the things that have to be done are getting done in a timely fashion, my time is my own to do with as I choose.
I'm learning to take small steps and make small changes. I'm learning that I don't have to do it all at once. Yes, I'm getting old. Yes, I don't know what the future holds, but I'm learning to focus on the thought that the future could quite possible hold many more years for me. I think I sort of thought life was coming to an end quickly now that I'm retired, but that's not necessarily what will happen, and not the way I want to live whatever time I have left. There are still days when I feel myself falling into that rut again, but I'm learning how to turn it around. This type-A, overachiever, OCD specialist is learning what it really means to relax not only my behavior, but also my mind and my heart.
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Post by ameslou on Feb 11, 2022 1:30:06 GMT
My kids are mid-late high school and I've been reflecting lately on how much more free time I have now than when they were younger. Little kids just require so much physical energy, and I feel like older kids require more emotional energy. I hope this will be a very broad discussion without judgment. I just need some food for thought and who better to discuss with than you guys. But how do you spend your free time? Do you engage in activities you think are a waste of time? What does that term mean to you? Do you feel pulled to change how you spend your time? Are you content with it? Were you raised in a particular environment that impacts how you spend your time? Do your current life circumstances dictate how you spend your free time? Basically I thought we could have a discussion about how you feel about your free time? Do you find it productive? How much of it do you actually have outside of work, sleep, and family activities? Are you judgmental of the way others spend their time even in cases where it doesn't directly impact you? I will chime in as things go along. But I wanted to say that I'm going through the empty nest transition. I'm finding myself with a lot more time on my hands these days. I've basically outsourced things I don't find pleasurable, like big cleaning twice month. I've been reading some books with conflicting messages. And I was raised in a household where sitting still wasn't really an option. And I'm fighting a long game battle with my mental illness. When I feel good, I feel compelled to do all the things and when I feel bad I beat myself up about it. And I feel like I'm trying to do all the things I possibly can to stretch my mind and keep it sharp because I'm terrified of what long term use of psychiatric drugs is going to do to me. Anyway, I'm an early bird so I might not be able to come back until early tomorrow morning but I'm just curious your thoughts on some of the questions I've raised or whatever you want to add. Like I said, I thought this could be a fluid discussion and I have no map for how I want this to go. I just want to hear your thoughts. This really resonates with me. When I was in junior high school my parents both had full time jobs and would leave work in the evening to BUILD A HOUSE. They hired out laying the foundation and framing, then we did the insulation, plumbing, electrical, sheetrock, etc, etc, etc. etc. I'm late 40s now and for my entire adult life have always felt like I need to push, push, push to do more. In the last couple of months I've come to embrace the idea that I'm no longer willing to work whatever hours I feel are needed to "do a good job". Like, what the hell am I pushing myself so hard for? I'm starting to really think on the ideas of "what feels good?" "what nourishes me?". I have an A+ strategy going of putting holds on books at the library - each week I have a round of 5-6 books to pick up and that many to return. I always have something else to read when I finish one or decide to DNF one that isn't working for me. I've started puttering around with copics and card making in the evening. I wish I were doing more in the evenings outside of the house .. but it's still cold and still dark and I'm not going out again after I get home. I prioritize sleep more than I used to. I try to sleep until I wake up on my own. I no longer see staying up late and cheating myself on sleep as a badge of honor. I have a new mantra "skin care is self care" - I don't worry about making products "last" (only for them to go bad before I use it up). If I don't like a product I give it away or pitch it. If it's sunny and warm-ish outside I go for a walk mid-day even though I feel like I "ought to" sit at my desk and push to get more stuff done. IDK if this answers the questions you're asking, but this (clearly) resonates with me!
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Feb 11, 2022 1:30:20 GMT
I just did an exercise in my midlife coaching program about free time and specifically about self judgment we may have around doing "nothing" and I discovered that I have really eased up on the pressure I put on myself to "get things done." I've basically outsourced tasks I refuse to do anymore, created a minimum baseline for the various tasks and self care that I will commit to everyday, and I'm working on strengthening the relationships I have that are important to me (including with myself). After that, I have decided that whatever I do is 100% my choice. If I find I am not enjoying myself, I examine why I chose to do that thing. I'm really honing in on what works for me and creates a feeling of satisfaction
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 11, 2022 1:39:03 GMT
The older I get, the less guilty I feel about not meeting the ideal of spending my time in “meaningful” pursuits. The books I read, tv/movies I watch, hobbies I do, make me happy. That’s all that matters to me. I definitely don’t feel like I need to change those things to fit someone else’s expectations. I’m not a joiner, so you won’t find me in organized groups. I’m still working full time and I‘ve never been interested in scheduling my free time with a bunch of things to do just to fill the time.
Do you feel like you need to schedule things so you don’t have down time? Is it cultural expectations (American puritanical guilt is definitely a thing) or do you think it’s a product of your mental health issues? What do you think would happen if you just let it go and did what you want in your free time?
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Post by purplebee on Feb 11, 2022 1:39:28 GMT
I am 70. I have worked all of my adult life except for 5 years when my son was born before he started school. I currently work the school schedule w/summers off and I work a 6 hour day through the school year as a lunch lady. Dh and I are home, Ds 26 lives not far from us. I do most of the housework and laundry, Dh cooks and mows the yard, and he farms. I spend a lot of my free time on myself. I am an avid reader, still do some scrapbooking, play guitar and sing, and waste a lot of time on the internet reading social media, this board, and playing a few games. I try to walk outside five or six times a week, especially when I’m not working.
All this to say that I know I could be much more productive in my spare time, but I don’t have an overwhelming desire to do that. If my house is in reasonable order, and laundry fairly well kept up, I do not feel the least bit of guilt or pressure if I sit and read for two or three hours at a time, or spend a few hours jamming with my son in the kitchen (he is a really good singer/musician and nothing makes me happier than to pick and grin with him!)
Life is too short - as said above, do what brings you joy as long as you are not neglecting the basic stuff that you are responsible for. Play that bass, and crochet all the stuff!
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Post by luckyjune on Feb 11, 2022 1:39:49 GMT
I've done a lot of thinking about this lately. I'm 57. I work full-time. My kids are all grown, done with school, employed, and independent. DH and I moved and downsized, getting rid of a lot of stuff. Except for the remodeling projects we find ourselves living in, I feel very settled.
Not long ago I found myself feeling *slightly* guilty about not being "busy" enough. Being a teacher and raising three VERY active and involved (and ahem strong-willed) kids left me little-to-no time to myself. My 30s and a good chunk of my 40s are a blur. People think I'm joking when I say that, but I'm not. Many of you know what I mean.
I was raised by a mom who believe you should be productive all your waking hours. I don't believe that and I refuse to glorify busy. I have a lot of down time and I do not care. My house is small and manageable, so I don't have to spend a lot of time cleaning. Our cats are pretty independent (unless it is time to be fed...then, watch out).
Long story long, I've done my busy productive time. I've lived with stress bubbling in me, but having to pretend it doesn't exist because I had classes to teach. I stayed up late helping kids with homework or talking through the multitude of teenage problems. I spent my weekends working on grading and planning for school. I was on committees at school, volunteered at the kids' schools, planned parties, volunteered with community groups, fostered social events in our cul de sac, got my Master's Degree, got National Board Certified, wrote curriculum and then wrote new curriculum when the winds shifted. I drove kids to basketball, baseball, softball, and soccer practices and games for 14 years. I made sure the kids had weekly music lessons two towns away. I contemplated buying an RV because with all the driving we did, at least we could have a meal together or take a nap, if need be.
I've done my busy. I'm doing what I want to do right now. I refuse to feel guilty or wonder what others think about it. I just don't care.
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Post by ntsf on Feb 11, 2022 1:43:02 GMT
I putter around some days, and some days I do more chores, but as we are both retired we mostly do what we want. my husband has been dealing with his broken leg for 8 months. so I am spending time doing a lot of things I don't really want to do like walk the dog, do all chores (I do have housecleaner) manage almost all the daily life stuff..all the cooking, all the hauling, help my child who has autism.so I am the support person. and with my dad dying last fall, I now have to manage my sister's money and affairs.. (she has severe mental illness) long distance.. and I still volunteer with girl scouts. so I have less time to just do whatever than I would like. there are things I want to do but can't. but at least I am getting more stuff organized in my house. and my dh will be off his crutches in a few weeks. (not totally healed, just able to get about more.. moving to trekking poles). I don't feel bad doing anything I want.. but just limited by life stuff.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 1:44:45 GMT
Yes paget I feel like maybe we are in a similar place. It's sounds so much like you have a really healthy balance. And it always sounds to me like you make it priority to work in time for yourself each day. And you are right. I was judged big time by my parents for idling. So I judge myself something awful. I have days where I'm going full steam ahead and I have other days where I just can't get going at all. And it is hard not to beat myself up on those days. But I know it comes back to the fact that my parents never let me rest. And hey, when I was working on my MBA, I couldn't read either. It took me a couple of years to bounce out of student mode and enjoy pleasure reading again. So I can totally get that.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 1:46:57 GMT
Until the pandemic I either worked late or had kids' activities pretty much every night so I didn't really have much free time. It depends on the season, but right now I have more free time than I have in the past. I find myself not really doing much. Sometimes paperwork, sometimes just sitting around. I do think I could be more productive (cleaning more, or scrapbooking instead of surfing the internet) and feel guilty about it at times. Yes I just think that my life hasn't been my own in such a long time. That I too feel guilty at times about how I'm spending my time. Thank you for sharing that you feel that way too. It helps to know I'm not alone in that feeling.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 11, 2022 1:51:19 GMT
I enjoy my free time-most of the time. I do whatever I feel like doing, and seldom feel guilty. Sometimes I keep busy, and sometimes I am downright lazy. And either way is fine.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 1:53:05 GMT
I just did an exercise in my midlife coaching program about free time and specifically about self judgment we may have around doing "nothing" and I discovered that I have really eased up on the pressure I put on myself to "get things done." I've basically outsourced tasks I refuse to do anymore, created a minimum baseline for the various tasks and self care that I will commit to everyday, and I'm working on strengthening the relationships I have that are important to me (including with myself). After that, I have decided that whatever I do is 100% my choice. If I find I am not enjoying myself, I examine why I chose to do that thing. I'm really honing in on what works for me and creates a feeling of satisfaction I don't know if you listen to the Unfuck Your Brain podcast. I know some of the life coach school grads you follow but Kara's most recent podcast helped fuel this discussion. Just a lot of things I've been reading/listening to lately are all coming together in my head and I'm sorting through all of them. I'm also for the first time in a long time feeling like I've got some mental space free of worry about my kids. I know you struggle with that parenting aspect too. It feels good not to be gripped by worry.
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Post by snoopy on Feb 11, 2022 1:54:59 GMT
I read a lot. I used to be an antsy person who always needed to be going somewhere and doing something. COVID has forced me to learn how to relax more and enjoy being at home. It has been a big adjustment, but I think I’m actually happier and more content now. I am also a house wife, so I have lots of free time to myself while DH is at work. I keep a chore schedule for myself, so I always have at least some housework or financial things to do each weekday. I find that reading a good book provides me with an escape to a new location, a different time in history, etc. I probably watch too much TV, but I’m trying to cut down on that, as I feel like it’s not very productive and I actually enjoy reading more.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 1:56:41 GMT
The older I get, the less guilty I feel about not meeting the ideal of spending my time in “meaningful” pursuits. The books I read, tv/movies I watch, hobbies I do, make me happy. That’s all that matters to me. I definitely don’t feel like I need to change those things to fit someone else’s expectations. I’m not a joiner, so you won’t find me in organized groups. I’m still working full time and I‘ve never been interested in scheduling my free time with a bunch of things to do just to fill the time. Do you feel like you need to schedule things so you don’t have down time? Is it cultural expectations (American puritanical guilt is definitely a thing) or do you think it’s a product of your mental health issues? What do you think would happen if you just let it go and did what you want in your free time? In the grand scheme of things I do do what I want in my free time. But there's this ingrained expectation of productivity. If that makes sense. Even most of my favorite hobbies result in a tangible product. Scrapbooking, crochet. And part of my struggle is that I actually have days where I just can't do the things I want to do. So I feel even more compelled to schedule every last minute when I do feel good. Balance. I need balance.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 1:59:13 GMT
I've done a lot of thinking about this lately. I'm 57. I work full-time. My kids are all grown, done with school, employed, and independent. DH and I moved and downsized, getting rid of a lot of stuff. Except for the remodeling projects we find ourselves living in, I feel very settled. Not long ago I found myself feeling *slightly* guilty about not being "busy" enough. Being a teacher and raising three VERY active and involved (and ahem strong-willed) kids left me little-to-no time to myself. My 30s and a good chunk of my 40s are a blur. People think I'm joking when I say that, but I'm not. Many of you know what I mean. I was raised by a mom who believe you should be productive all your waking hours. I don't believe that and I refuse to glorify busy. I have a lot of down time and I do not care. My house is small and manageable, so I don't have to spend a lot of time cleaning. Our cats are pretty independent (unless it is time to be fed...then, watch out). Long story long, I've done my busy productive time. I've lived with stress bubbling in me, but having to pretend it doesn't exist because I had classes to teach. I stayed up late helping kids with homework or talking through the multitude of teenage problems. I spent my weekends working on grading and planning for school. I was on committees at school, volunteered at the kids' schools, planned parties, volunteered with community groups, fostered social events in our cul de sac, got my Master's Degree, got National Board Certified, wrote curriculum and then wrote new curriculum when the winds shifted. I drove kids to basketball, baseball, softball, and soccer practices and games for 14 years. I made sure the kids had weekly music lessons two towns away. I contemplated buying an RV because with all the driving we did, at least we could have a meal together or take a nap, if need be. I've done my busy. I'm doing what I want to do right now. I refuse to feel guilty or wonder what others think about it. I just don't care. I love the way you said the last paragraph. That needs to be my mantra.
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Post by Linda on Feb 11, 2022 2:03:37 GMT
I've been a sahm for over 20 years. I scrapbook, sew, research family history, read, and surf the internet/play Farmville in my free time - oh and we got a rowing machine so there's that also. I have a LOT more free time this year than I ever have. There's only DD15 left at home - and she's gone 710 to between 430 and 530 every day. DH rarely works from home even with the pandemic - usually only if DD15 is sick with a fever (due to his company's covid policy) so he's gone 8-530/6 but does come home for lunch.
We have a bigger house than we used to (move about a year ago) but it's easier to keep up with - with less people at home, there is less laundry, less dishes (and I got a dishwasher for Christmas!!), less clutter. We have a smaller yard and I'm not technically responsible for it - although I do some work out there, there isn't an expectation that I do so it's usually by choice.
Some days I accomplish a lot - some days I manage dishes, laundry, and a shower - hopefully
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Post by librarylady on Feb 11, 2022 2:04:17 GMT
I am retired, so all of my time is "free time." The first year I didn't do much beyond housework, flower bed care and lolling about. Then I began to feel a little bored, so I looked around for some volunteer work. DH does all our cooking so that leaves me even more free time than others have. (He retired 7 years ahead of me and began to prepare the meals because I was working and it has just continued.)
Now, I am the leader for our adult Sunday School discussion class (prep time for that). I volunteer at a food pantry and help agency 1 day per week, 2 days per month I volunteer for the city, I make blankets for the Linus Project (while I watch TV) and read.
I feel productive in society and yet have lots of time to waste on the internet. LOL
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Post by PLurker on Feb 11, 2022 2:04:50 GMT
Looking in from out I'm guessing I seem to "waste" a lot of time. Sometimes I'm okay with it as it's what I need and enjoy at the moment. When I'm down and/or stuck in that proverbial rut, it bothers me. I need to get out or do more but the times have limited that. Like my dinners in the dinner thread, my days and what I do seem more than not to be in punt or whim mode. When it is deemed safe (by docs) I want to volunteer somewhere to have some bit of schedule/ to do list that I enjoy but is kind of preplanned.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 2:10:54 GMT
I am retired, so all of my time is "free time." The first year I didn't do much beyond housework, flower bed care and lolling about. Then I began to feel a little bored, so I looked around for some volunteer work. DH does all our cooking so that leaves me even more free time than others have. (He retired 7 years ahead of me and began to prepare the meals because I was working and it has just continued.) Now, I am the leader for our adult Sunday School discussion class (prep time for that). I volunteer at a food pantry and help agency 1 day per week, 2 days per month I volunteer for the city, I make blankets for the Linus Project (while I watch TV) and read. I feel productive in society and yet have lots of time to waste on the internet. LOL It's funny because I have sat here debating for the past few weeks about just quitting social media altogether and focusing on other things. And currently I'm reading Hivemind and in it she quotes a study that said that people who actively use social media to cultivate social connection actually have a greater sense of well-being. And that really resonated with me. I don't doom scroll/lurk and I don't use social media to argue/debate/demean. I use it to cultivate human connection, like here. So maybe it is doing more good than harm for me.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 11, 2022 2:19:47 GMT
But how do you spend your free time? Do you engage in activities you think are a waste of time? What does that term mean to you? Do you feel pulled to change how you spend your time? Are you content with it? Were you raised in a particular environment that impacts how you spend your time? Do your current life circumstances dictate how you spend your free time? Basically I thought we could have a discussion about how you feel about your free time? Do you find it productive? How much of it do you actually have outside of work, sleep, and family activities? Are you judgmental of the way others spend their time even in cases where it doesn't directly impact you? Interesting discussion. I don't engage in activities that I think are a waste of time, but I know others do. I don't think any of my in-laws have read a book since leaving school and they really don't get the joy reading brings to me. DH reads, but it is almost all business, self help, health & fitness type stuff. I can count on one hand the number of fiction books I've seen him read. One was a novel I brought to the hospital when DD was born. When I'm with my 3 BFFs, 2 of us are always talking/trading books and making recommendations. One of the four can't believe we can read as much as we do but she exercises 3 times as much as me and will always pick doing something over curling up with a book. The 4th is kind of half way between us. My dad tried to raise us to always get chores and projects done first. Mom was more relaxed and just hoped we'd get it done before dad got home. Much to dad's dismay, I will read or craft and procrastinate all the chores. Unless it is the rare day I wake up and feel the need to deep clean the house from top to bottom.
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Post by melanell on Feb 11, 2022 2:20:13 GMT
We all get 24 hours a day. What we each do with those 24 hours is both incredibly personal and incredibly variable. Some people get to choose what they'd like to do with far more of those hours than others. I think as long as your choices don't negatively affect others, then you should do whatever your heart desires with any time you have available as "free time". I don't think anything that makes you happy, brings you comfort, helps you relax, energizes you, clears your mind, etc., etc., could ever be a "waste of time". We all have different reasons for why we do things and different things help us reach the goals we're looking to fulfill. Even if our goal at any given time is just to chill and do nothing. That being said, what I do with my own free time varies by time of year and just my mood. I will often work on something for a certain amount of time, then take a break from it. Sometimes a very long break, even. In winter I like to read, play board/card games, work on genealogy or local history research, craft/scrapbook, do word or logic puzzles, watch certain TV shows/YouTube channels with DH, and when it's not below freezing and/or icy out, I like to take walks. And I obviously like talking to Peas. Right now I'm itching to get outside more. I am ready to be able to open windows and start pulling weeds and working on some projects we've been dreaming up over the winter. But even if we're doing more work type activities I don't think they are any more rewarding or worthwhile than movie night cuddled up on the sofa.
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Post by PLurker on Feb 11, 2022 2:20:55 GMT
Another quick thought, I found with more free time there is less urgency to get things done as there's no "deadline". It's been said that in retirement it takes way more time to get at less done. I think there's truth to that especially looking back at when I worked the longest hours and had the longest commute and got all kinds of sh!t done in between. Because I had to, I guess. It was kinda lime real life Tetris game, fitting it all in.
But that's probably normal for different stages of life. The forced gotta get it done stage and now, not so much.
Maybe it all balances out in the end...
Just stopped for a sandwich (and to pea) Now I'm going back to crafting for charity. 🌈
Getting sh!t done! for the moment. 😉
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