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Post by essiejean on Feb 11, 2022 15:40:51 GMT
My dad tried to raise us to always get chores and projects done first. Mom was more relaxed and just hoped we'd get it done before dad got home. Much to dad's dismay, I will read or craft and procrastinate all the chores. Unless it is the rare day I wake up and feel the need to deep clean the house from top to bottom. this is my husband and I to a tee! we have 3 kids and 1 is exactly like him, the other exactly like me and the third is somewhere in between. My husband retired about 4 years ago but I'm still full time. during the summer he keeps busy with golf and maintaining our acreage but the winter months are tough. So on the weekends when I just want to hang out at home he is anxious to get out of the house and "do something" - same with the evenings when he is stuck home all day - when I get home I want to just kick back in front of the TV but he wants to do something together. Last month he started working 3 days a week for my company - we needed some extra help in our construction division - so we have been riding to and from work together those days and he is now content to just relax after dinner in front of the tv with me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2022 15:43:22 GMT
Big chunks: Kids, husband, work, home, work, family, work, friends, scrapping, reading, work, walking, home, exercising, work, husband, family, friends. Little chunks: Here
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 15:44:26 GMT
He seems to feel that whatever he does has to be important. And that is how he feels a sense of purpose. If he is not actually DOING something, he falls asleep in his chair. (But don't tell anyone I told you that most evenings are spent there: he will deny it b/c he feels that is somehow shameful.) This raises a very interesting question which I need to think deeply about. Is my self-worth tied to my productivity in some way? I'm not thinking I feel shame (maybe I do) as I would describe it more as guilt. I dunno. I'll have to think harder about this one.
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Post by zella on Feb 11, 2022 16:55:26 GMT
I'm sure how I spend my time would horrify many.
I usually sleep until 10 or 11. If I get up earlier I tend to feel ill so I prefer to sleep through it. I take my meds and wait half an hour or so before eating. During this time I'm on my laptop (that's where I'm at now). After I eat I try to do a couple of small tasks. I usually have to rest for a while after each task, or even part way through. I will often be on my laptop or desktop when resting, trying not to fall asleep. I will usually eat something mid-afternoon. I try to time my 2 daytime potassium doses to coincide with when I have something physical I need to do so that I don't have an attack. If I nap, I'm usually done for the day. If not, this is how my whole day looks. I may or may not eat dinner. I rarely eat the same thing as DH or DD.
I hate how little I do. But until or unless I can get my body working better, this is my reality. Oh, and usually once a week or so I have a doctor's appointment that DH has to take me to. I very rarely go anywhere else.
It hasn't always been like this. And I hate this wasted life. So no, I don't judge others. I do feel bad for kids whose parents schedule every moment of their waking lives; kids need time to just be, to be bored and figure out what to do, to play.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Feb 11, 2022 16:57:23 GMT
how do you spend your free time? We are empty nesters and work full-time. I work out during my work day so I don't need to do that during my free time. When I get home from work I usually sit and chill on my phone for a bit. Once dinner and any chores are done, I watch tv or read or play on my phone. On weekends, my free time is spent on house chores, going places with DH, shopping or hanging out with family.
Do you engage in activities you think are a waste of time? Yes, I feel that playing games on my phone or scrolling social media could be a waste of time, but for me it's worth the time I spend on it. To me waste of time is purely subjective and I'm not going to tell you (general) what a waste of time is for YOU.
Do you feel pulled to change how you spend your time? Yes, I'd like to do more with my free time than I currently do. It's in the mindset of 'I'd like to start crafting again and should be doing that' or I have that pile of stuff I need to go through and sort out, or I 'should' go for a walk since it's such a nice day. Also, DH is one that can't sit still and fills his time by working on his hobbies. He's currently building an airplane! Yes, an airplane that we will one day fly in to go to a lot of different places. He doesn't judge how I spend my time, but a lot of times I feel like I should be doing more based on his example.
Are you content with it? Sometimes I am, sometimes not.
Were you raised in a particular environment that impacts how you spend your time? Probably. My free time was mine growing up. I never was given regular, on going chores other than the usual cleaning up after myself type of thing.
Do your current life circumstances dictate how you spend your free time? Most definitely. Our nest is empty, so I don't have to consider the needs of children. It's just DH and I and it's very freeing to be able to do what we want, when we want. We traveled by car several times this past year and it was so nice to be able to just pick up and go whenever we wanted.
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Post by mags243 on Feb 11, 2022 16:59:42 GMT
My twins are now in college, but when they were born I cut back to part time at work, and never went back to FT. I was very involved at their school, with Scouts, and their teams/activities in HS. I have served as the president of the school board and of music boosters, as well as serving on the athletic boosters board. Our youngest is in elementary school, and isn't yet active in time consuming activities.
As you can imagine, I have more free time than I have had in almost 20 years. When I'm not working I am not terribly productive most of the time. I read a lot, and would much rather do that than clean or do yard work. I have to be in the right mood to do that, but then I'm all in until it's done. I keep up with laundry, dishes, basic cleaning, etc. I could spend a day cleaning out and organizing a closet or pantry, or organizing our garage, but I just don't want to. It'll keep until I'm in the mood.
I completely admit to judging SAHMs for not volunteering at school/activities. These are moms who had plenty of time to go shopping, go to lunch and fitness classes with friends, but couldn't cover a lunch period or help at a class party. In high school I helped with band uniform fittings every year. 150+ sets of parents, and it was always the same 10 people who helped. Why would you not want to be involved in your kids' lives? The best volunteers I ever worked with all had jobs outside the home.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 17:45:49 GMT
It hasn't always been like this. And I hate this wasted life. Oh, Zella, please don't say that. Physical limitations (and mental, in my case) are a very real thing. I beat myself up on days I can't do. It makes me sad to read this because I'm afraid you do too. Hugs.
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Post by creativegirl on Feb 11, 2022 18:03:48 GMT
Personally, I like to have lots to do. Part of that is because it helps me manage my anxiety. Whether what I am doing is productive or solely for my enjoyment, it doesn't really matter.
After 8 years of raising little kids, both my kids are in school at least a few days a week this year. At first, I used the time to go for walks, read, etc but quickly got bored so this spring, I started back to school to work on my master's degree. I'm glad I did! I'm enjoying having a new goal.
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Post by scrappert on Feb 11, 2022 18:44:04 GMT
I have not read any posts yet, just adding in mine and will read after.
I am up at 5am everyday and am going until 7pm each night. I work full time, have an SO and daughter, 2 dogs and daughter's cat
How do you spend your free time? if this is just a few moments, I play a game on my phone, watch TikTok. If it for longer periods of time, binge watch shows.
Do you engage in activities you think are a waste of time? Of course, but it is my free time
Do you feel pulled to change how you spend your time? Not really, I feel I do so much I deserve this time to do nonsense.
Are you content with it? At this point I am, this may change.
Were you raised in a particular environment that impacts how you spend your time? My mom would read books all the time, she would come home for lunch and watch her "story". But she also did all the housework, cooked, took care of all of us. So I think so.
Do your current life circumstances dictate how you spend your free time? Yes I guess. I am very overwhelmed at work right now, so nonsense time for me is a much needed distraction.
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Post by pilcas on Feb 11, 2022 18:54:08 GMT
I come from a European family and often went to Europe pre 2020 so to me spending an hour at a cafe with a beer or coffee people watching comes natural to me. My point is that I don’t feel guilty about relaxing. I don’t feel the need to be busy all the time. Now I am retired and have plenty of time on my hands. I usually get up and do a bit of web surfing as I drink my coffee and have my cereal. In nice weather I will go out for a walk. I read, watch tv, craft a little sometimes. Sometimes I will just go out to the nearest shopping center and browse even if I don’t really need anything. On fridays hubby and I will go out for a nice lunch and run errands. The day goes by very fast for me.
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Post by Rhondito on Feb 11, 2022 18:59:34 GMT
(I haven't read the thread, so sorry if any of this has been discussed.)
I work full time at a job that happens to be incredibly busy at this time. I love my job and coworkers so I'm not complaining. I spend most of my free time on a bike, mostly mountain bikes, but some road and gravel too. If I'm not riding I'm spending time with my cycling friends, volunteering for cycling events, or watching Netflix. LOL.
I used to knit, ALL THE TIME. I enjoyed it, but it's a sedentary hobby, and one that kept me at home or at the yarn shop with ladies - mostly older. I'm happier being out active with people my own age.
One thing that bugs me is when someone asks what you do for fun and you reply __________, their response is "I wish I had time to do that." To me it implies that you have all this free time on your hands, that they are so busy they couldn't possibly make time for something so frivolous. Everyone chooses how to spend their own time. If something is important to you, you'll find the time to do it. Just because your hobby isn't important to me, doesn't mean it's not important to you.
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Post by voltagain on Feb 11, 2022 18:59:55 GMT
My twins are now in college, but when they were born I cut back to part time at work, and never went back to FT. I was very involved at their school, with Scouts, and their teams/activities in HS. I have served as the president of the school board and of music boosters, as well as serving on the athletic boosters board. Our youngest is in elementary school, and isn't yet active in time consuming activities. As you can imagine, I have more free time than I have had in almost 20 years. When I'm not working I am not terribly productive most of the time. I read a lot, and would much rather do that than clean or do yard work. I have to be in the right mood to do that, but then I'm all in until it's done. I keep up with laundry, dishes, basic cleaning, etc. I could spend a day cleaning out and organizing a closet or pantry, or organizing our garage, but I just don't want to. It'll keep until I'm in the mood. I completely admit to judging SAHMs for not volunteering at school/activities. These are moms who had plenty of time to go shopping, go to lunch and fitness classes with friends, but couldn't cover a lunch period or help at a class party. In high school I helped with band uniform fittings every year. 150+ sets of parents, and it was always the same 10 people who helped. Why would you not want to be involved in your kids' lives? The best volunteers I ever worked with all had jobs outside the home. I was a SAHM you judged. Band was NOT the only activity my kids were in. It was also one activity they did not want me involved in. They considered band to be dad's space (I am tone deaf yet dad was a professional musician); but dad was at work. I was involved in other activities they did so it was not like I was an uninvolved parent.
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Post by smartypants71 on Feb 11, 2022 19:00:23 GMT
I have no judgments about myself and how I spend my free time. I work full time, I am a student, I manage the household, and I manage myType 1 diabetes (which feels like a full time job). However, my SO struggled a little bit with how I spent it. We are very much opposite in our personalities. He is go-go-go all the time - a very extroverted, social person. I am not that way. I go along with it most of the time, but by Sunday I shut down. He has finally learned not to make plans with me for Sundays because that is the day I unplug my brain. Heck, I don't even want to speak to anyone by then!
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 11, 2022 19:02:18 GMT
OhI love this thread, thank you!
I have struggled with this, as my sister thinks I’m an absolute waste of space. I divorced my DH and get half his pension, and moved to Mexico where I can live quite happily on just that.
At first I was doing technical writing and teaching English before I moved, and I assumed I’d pick that back up. But you know what? I don’t have to. My life is small and devoid of things like buying a home or an I vestment portfolio but it’s fine.
I’ve been fixing up my little Mexican house, learning Spanish, I just bought an old VW I’m fixing up, I’m painting murals and sewing. I TNR street cats (it’s SO cheap here to fix them) and have done over 30. I am tutoring 2 girls in my neighborhood in English, for free. I may open a free school at my house if there is enough interest.
I happen to think I am still valuable to society without doing paid work- what I do is still work. It makes me happy and it makes my community better in my small way.
So basically my sister and anyone who judges my slothful retirement at 48 can just fuck right off. Life is short, I want to be happy. And I finally am.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Feb 11, 2022 19:07:23 GMT
I’ve been fixing up my little Mexican house, learning Spanish, I just bought an old VW I’m fixing up, I’m painting murals and sewing. I TNR street cats (it’s SO cheap here to fix them) and have done over 30. I am tutoring 2 girls in my neighborhood in English, for free. I may open a free school at my house if there is enough interest. Your life sounds wonderful to me! Enjoy every day! (what is TNR for the cats??)
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Post by ~summer~ on Feb 11, 2022 19:10:10 GMT
OhI love this thread, thank you! I have struggled with this, as my sister thinks I’m an absolute waste of space. I divorced my DH and get half his pension, and moved to Mexico where I can live quite happily on just that. At first I was doing technical writing and teaching English before I moved, and I assumed I’d pick that back up. But you know what? I don’t have to. My life is small and devoid of things like buying a home or an I vestment portfolio but it’s fine. I’ve been fixing up my little Mexican house, learning Spanish, I just bought an old VW I’m fixing up, I’m painting murals and sewing. I TNR street cats (it’s SO cheap here to fix them) and have done over 30. I am tutoring 2 girls in my neighborhood in English, for free. I may open a free school at my house if there is enough interest. I happen to think I am still valuable to society without doing paid work- what I do is still work. It makes me happy and it makes my community better in my small way. So basically my sister and anyone who judges my slothful retirement at 48 can just fuck right off. Life is short, I want to be happy. And I finally am. you are living in Mexico? That is so cool - curious if you would share what city you are in so I can live vicariously? Eta - any by the way your life sounds absolutely blissful
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 11, 2022 19:17:24 GMT
Such an interesting thread! My answer is *complicated* My free time has changed soooo dramatically due to medical issues. I used to have to stay up late in the evening in bed with a flashlight to read for pleasure after my parents went to bed because they thought reading for pleasure was a waste of time. I was really never allowed to watch TV. And my parents watched plenty of it. That's so sad--and I know a few people who had parents like that, too. But one thing I don't get---if they didn't allow you to read/ watch TV, etc..... WHAT did they want you to do instead? As a child, it's not like you could get a job, go and volunteer any time you wanted, etc. Did they make you do a lot of cleaning? Did they allow you to play/ have friends over? Also, how weird that they watched a lot of TV but didn't allow you to?
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 19:17:41 GMT
I have struggled with this, as my sister thinks I’m an absolute waste of space. So basically my sister and anyone who judges my slothful retirement at 48 can just fuck right off. Life is short, I want to be happy. And I finally am. It sounds to me like you fill your days with a lot of fun stuff and good for you! I have enough judgment coming from me, at me, to bother with what everyone else is doing. I'll bet your sis is jealous.
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 11, 2022 19:25:35 GMT
DSO gets up at sparrow's fart ROFL! I've never heard that before! gryroagain....Wow, I'm envious of all that you do, but unlike your sister, I'm HAPPY for you.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 19:35:42 GMT
As a child, it's not like you could get a job, go and volunteer any time you wanted, etc. Did they make you do a lot of cleaning? Did they allow you to play/ have friends over? My dad was big into me cleaning the house. And supervising my younger siblings. My dad was a real dichotomy. One on hand, he always wanted me to push myself in school. On the other, he didn't want to help me with college and seems downright mean about the fact that I know things he doesn't. It's like on one hand, he likes to brag I have a masters degree, on the other, he has absolutely no respect for my education. Similar with activities when I was a kid. He was glad I was in a bunch of activities (I played three instruments in three different music ensembles and I played softball), but he refused to take me to my activities (thank god for mom) and he never came to see me perform. He did come to a few marching band performances, but that was because he liked football. He never sat through a symphony performance. And if the temperature was decent, we were to be outside unless we were doing chores. So I was fine to run the neighborhood with my friends. Now, I don't get judged about what I do with my time. With that said, though, I'm probably the most productive member of my family. So for that, I'm grateful. I'm glad I'm a curious sort who is not afraid to try something new. I'm glad I'm the sort to just do things without worrying what people think of me. And I've worked a lot of this out in therapy, but sometimes when circumstances shift (like now with the emptying nest), I need to rethink things I've learned in therapy through. Which is why I started this thread. It really helps sometimes just to hear a variety of perspectives. I like it because it helps me clarify for myself which direction I want to head in. There were exceptions to things periodically. Like he allowed us to watch The Cosby Show as a family. But my dad just dominated everything. He needed to control everything.
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Post by taylortroop on Feb 11, 2022 20:45:14 GMT
I love this thread. It certainly speaks to me at this point in my life.
I retired in June 2021 after a 33 year career in a management position at a recreational facility. After working full time and being "on call" 24/7, the less busy lifestyle is awesome. DH is also retired and we are empty nesters. I often get asked if I'm bored and feel unproductive and my response is absolutely not! I feel as though I put in my time working and wanted to retire while I was healthy and young enough (I'm 56) to be able to enjoy it. The feeling of being able to do what I want to do, when I want to do it is still a bit difficult but I'm learning to chill out and enjoy this new life. Retiring during covid was probably not the ideal time as it hasn't allowed for any travel or many social outings. My province still has significant restrictions and mandates in place.
My house is clean and the laundry is always done. DH does the majority of the cooking which he took on when he retired and I was still working full time. I don't enjoy cooking so I'm responsible for the cleanup and this works well for us. I spend my time reading, walking, being with the grandchildren, making cards, using social media.
Its refreshing to read the other posts and know that while I thought I was alone with my quiet, chill life, there are definitely others like me. This thread has validated that it's okay to spend free time doing what you want and not doing what you don't want. Thank you everyone!
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 11, 2022 21:04:31 GMT
When I'm through with my workday, and if I don't go to the hospital on weekends, I do not want to go anywhere. For me the perfect way to spend free time is to stay home. I surf around on the internet, I always have a jigsaw puzzle in progress, I read, I play Animal Crossing, I study Spanish, I play the piano, I watch something on TV (well usually not the actual TV but one of the streaming services), I Skype with a friend, and I play an online game (Runescape). And sometimes I do several of those at the same time, such as watching Netflix and playing Runescape. lol I'd be perfectly content to sit in my comfy armchair for most of the day. I do drag myself out for a walk every day because I know it's good for me. lol I remember once at my old church when my Skype/online game buddy and I were talking about Runescape, someone overheard us and asked about it. When we told her what it was she made that typical comment of "you must have a lot more free time than I do". Of course people have different amounts of free time depending on what else is going on in their life. But whatever amount I have is mine to fill how I want. Back when she made that comment I was still in seminary and honestly after spending two hours wrangling with systematic theology sometimes all I wanted to do was come home and slay dragons in Runescape.
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Post by voltagain on Feb 11, 2022 21:11:30 GMT
But how do you spend your free time? Do you engage in activities you think are a waste of time? What does that term mean to you? Do you feel pulled to change how you spend your time? Are you content with it? Were you raised in a particular environment that impacts how you spend your time? Do your current life circumstances dictate how you spend your free time? To me a waste of time is something I did not choose to be involved in.... like waiting for someone that is running way late. Activities I choose to do I don't consider a waste of time, or if I do, then it is up to me to change what I am doing.. if I choose not to change it then it is not time wasted. A long time ago I used to feel pulled to change how I spent my time due to the judgements of others. But I have moved passed that fairly well. My mom was of the mind set if you aren't being productive in a tangible way then it is a waste of time. She attempted to beat that into me hard but I was an inattentive, distracted, day-dreamy child and I have reverted back into that. Makes me much calmer and less anxious! Basically I thought we could have a discussion about how you feel about your free time? Do you find it productive? How much of it do you actually have outside of work, sleep, and family activities? I like my free time and outside of work it is all mine! I enjoy several facebook games, watching youtube (right now deep into archeology/ancient history types of stuff) sewing and other crafty things
Are you judgmental of the way others spend their time even in cases where it doesn't directly impact you? Nope!
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Post by zella on Feb 11, 2022 21:24:24 GMT
It hasn't always been like this. And I hate this wasted life. Oh, Zella, please don't say that. Physical limitations (and mental, in my case) are a very real thing. I beat myself up on days I can't do. It makes me sad to read this because I'm afraid you do too. Hugs. Thank you, sweet lady. I appreciate that. DH tells me that too. Used to be these days were a couple a month. Now it's every day. Just hoping someone can figure out something to help me so I can at least do more housework and maybe find a hobby, as all mine have been taken away. It's tough when you don't have anyone IRL who also is like this. And like you, my limitations are mental as well as physical. So I hope you can take your own advice. Some of us are just not lucky when it comes to our minds and bodies and our limitations. But hearing from someone like you really helps buoy me up. Hang in there with me!
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Post by Merge on Feb 11, 2022 21:27:18 GMT
OhI love this thread, thank you! I have struggled with this, as my sister thinks I’m an absolute waste of space. I divorced my DH and get half his pension, and moved to Mexico where I can live quite happily on just that. At first I was doing technical writing and teaching English before I moved, and I assumed I’d pick that back up. But you know what? I don’t have to. My life is small and devoid of things like buying a home or an I vestment portfolio but it’s fine. I’ve been fixing up my little Mexican house, learning Spanish, I just bought an old VW I’m fixing up, I’m painting murals and sewing. I TNR street cats (it’s SO cheap here to fix them) and have done over 30. I am tutoring 2 girls in my neighborhood in English, for free. I may open a free school at my house if there is enough interest. I happen to think I am still valuable to society without doing paid work- what I do is still work. It makes me happy and it makes my community better in my small way. So basically my sister and anyone who judges my slothful retirement at 48 can just fuck right off. Life is short, I want to be happy. And I finally am. That sounds ideal. I would do that in a heartbeat right now at 49 if I could. Enjoy living the life you’ve chosen! On a tangent, when conversations about UBI come up, and people start talking about how people who don’t absolutely have to work to have the basic funds for survival would become lazy drains on society. And then someone brings up exactly what you’re doing, like teaching kids English for free. And the question becomes - what good could we do if we didn’t have to spend our lives scratching and scraping just to survive? Fascinating to me. I can’t wait to get to that point in my life.
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Post by Merge on Feb 11, 2022 21:31:10 GMT
I have no judgments about myself and how I spend my free time. I work full time, I am a student, I manage the household, and I manage myType 1 diabetes (which feels like a full time job). However, my SO struggled a little bit with how I spent it. We are very much opposite in our personalities. He is go-go-go all the time - a very extroverted, social person. I am not that way. I go along with it most of the time, but by Sunday I shut down. He has finally learned not to make plans with me for Sundays because that is the day I unplug my brain. Heck, I don't even want to speak to anyone by then! That’s Friday evening/Saturday morning for me. DH has finally learned that if he schedules dinner with friends for us on Friday night, I am pretty much useless. By Saturday afternoon I’m good to go if he wants us to socialize. But not before that.
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Post by peabay on Feb 11, 2022 21:39:43 GMT
(I haven't read the thread, so sorry if any of this has been discussed.) I work full time at a job that happens to be incredibly busy at this time. I love my job and coworkers so I'm not complaining. I spend most of my free time on a bike, mostly mountain bikes, but some road and gravel too. If I'm not riding I'm spending time with my cycling friends, volunteering for cycling events, or watching Netflix. LOL. I used to knit, ALL THE TIME. I enjoyed it, but it's a sedentary hobby, and one that kept me at home or at the yarn shop with ladies - mostly older. I'm happier being out active with people my own age. One thing that bugs me is when someone asks what you do for fun and you reply __________, their response is "I wish I had time to do that." To me it implies that you have all this free time on your hands, that they are so busy they couldn't possibly make time for something so frivolous. Everyone chooses how to spend their own time. If something is important to you, you'll find the time to do it. Just because your hobby isn't important to me, doesn't mean it's not important to you.All you have to say is "I make time for it."
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Post by Linda on Feb 11, 2022 21:40:40 GMT
I completely admit to judging SAHMs for not volunteering at school/activities. I volunteered in my youngest's classroom but not in the older kids although DH and I were there for every concert, play, awards ceremony, and field day. The reason I didn't volunteer earlier? I couldn't bring my youngest (school rules) and had no one to leave her with. I also don't drive which (living in a rural area with no taxis or buses) makes volunteering anywhere more difficult - by the time DD15 was in Kindergarten, my oldest was an adult and he would volunteer with me. I did however volunteer with Girl Scouts for many years as did DH (and he also did Boy Scouts) - evenings and weekends worked better for us than school days for volunteering.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 11, 2022 22:04:58 GMT
OhI love this thread, thank you! I have struggled with this, as my sister thinks I’m an absolute waste of space. I divorced my DH and get half his pension, and moved to Mexico where I can live quite happily on just that. At first I was doing technical writing and teaching English before I moved, and I assumed I’d pick that back up. But you know what? I don’t have to. My life is small and devoid of things like buying a home or an I vestment portfolio but it’s fine. I’ve been fixing up my little Mexican house, learning Spanish, I just bought an old VW I’m fixing up, I’m painting murals and sewing. I TNR street cats (it’s SO cheap here to fix them) and have done over 30. I am tutoring 2 girls in my neighborhood in English, for free. I may open a free school at my house if there is enough interest. I happen to think I am still valuable to society without doing paid work- what I do is still work. It makes me happy and it makes my community better in my small way. So basically my sister and anyone who judges my slothful retirement at 48 can just fuck right off. Life is short, I want to be happy. And I finally am. That sounds ideal. I would do that in a heartbeat right now at 49 if I could. Enjoy living the life you’ve chosen! On a tangent, when conversations about UBI come up, and people start talking about how people who don’t absolutely have to work to have the basic funds for survival would become lazy drains on society. And then someone brings up exactly what you’re doing, like teaching kids English for free. And the question becomes - what good could we do if we didn’t have to spend our lives scratching and scraping just to survive? Fascinating to me. I can’t wait to get to that point in my life. This was beautifully said! What good could people do if they weren't killing themselves just to get by. I see it. I have a whole host of things I'd do if I didn't have my job. I have always, always wanted to be a Meals on Wheels driver. Some days,before he went to assisted living, that was the only person my grandpa saw all day. I want to be able to chat with the homebound elderly. I would love that.
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Post by moodyblue on Feb 11, 2022 22:09:12 GMT
Interesting thread.
I retired in May 2020, after teaching for 42 years. The timing was what my husband and I had planned and I had put in the formal notice a couple years prior so I could get the salary bump for the last two years. That plan was set up before my husband died and before COVID. Vince died in January 2019. I went back to work in mid-March and then decided to go ahead and work the next school year, as I had originally planned. I ended up retiring while teaching remotely, which was, in some ways, kind of a transition to retirement.
I was not excited for retirement, as many people are, because it was never going to be what I’d hoped and planned for, without my husband. I was, however, ready to stop teaching, and I was really ready to not have to live by the clock all the time. I am glad I haven’t had to be working in the schools.
The first year of retirement ended up filled with COVID restrictions, which affected everything else, to greater or lesser degrees. During that year my brother had surgery to remove a cancerous kidney and had some complications that kept him in the hospital longer than expected (his wife can no longer drive and has her own health issues, so I’m his - and her - support and backup), I had new flooring installed in the house, had my first knee replacement and weeks of physical therapy. Just as I finished PT, my mom began to have more health issues, was hospitalized, went to rehab and then into hospice care, before she died. I had my second knee replacement with PT after that and then my brother had another surgery.
This school year (I still think in school years after all these years) I am at the point where I can finally start figuring out what I really want retirement to look like. Also, January was the three year mark without Vince and I am feeling like I need to be more deliberate in creating this new life rather than just existing. I guess it’s acceptance that this is real, the grief and missing him aren’t going to end, and I am now responsible for making every choice and plan on my own.
I don’t think I consider any time wasted, no matter what I’m doing. If I zone out on the couch, or play mindless games on my iPad or phone, or do a jigsaw, it’s because it does serve a purpose - relaxation, stress relief, enjoyment, escape, thinking time, etc. These are all things I know I need. I’ve "figured out" a lot of things throughout my life when I’m doing something easy or automatic - working out a new way to present material to students, which option to choose on some plan, how to solve a problem with a person, what I really want to do - by letting myself work on it indirectly “in the back of my head” as I call it. I’m good with that.
I am not, to borrow peano's phrase, a high energy person. I did spend a lot of years being very productive and accomplishing a lot - but I still always found time for downtime. This most often meant time to read, but includes other interests too. I need that time. I don’t like a highly scheduled life; I love weeks with nothing on my calendar.
One step in building my new life is that I stripped down to as few commitments as possible. This is so that I can add in, if I want, the things that I choose. What I do, as much as possible, will be things I choose and what I want to prioritize. I may decide to volunteer or take up a new hobby (I do a lot more gardening, for example, now that it’s just me and I’m not the helper for my husband).
I have a lot of free time. Unless I have an appointment or something in the morning that necessitates an alarm, I wake up whenever I wake up, spend time listening to/watching the news while I read more news things on my phone. Usually six days a week I then get on my recumbent exercise bike and do anywhere from 30-60 minutes while I watch YouTube videos. This is now a pretty established habit, which is good for my knees and general health. I am trying to get into the habit of also doing at least one household chore before I get in the shower. I deal with email and whatever else, and then the rest of my day and evening varies. If I have errands to run or just need to get out of the house, I do that. I might clean out, reorganize, clean or do whatever I’m in the mood to tackle. I might also decide I’m going to do a puzzle, work in my craft room, or I watch more videos and just putter.
I spend a lot of time online, one way or another. Reading books became harder when my husband was ill (attention span changed) and then was very difficult in early grief. I am still an info junkie, and am interested in a ton of things, so I usually read more shorter things, and I watch a lot of YouTube. The other day I jumped from Garden Answer, to crafting, to life in Russia, to tiny homes and physical therapy videos and then one on tinnitus. I think I watched a couple short ones from the Olympics too.
It sounds weird, but I don’t even have time to do all that I want. I don’t watch much regular TV, but I have all kinds of options on DIsh and through Netflix and other services. Once in a while I’ll binge watch something, but I’m often multi-tasking too. I rarely just watch without doing something else.
So far, no guilt. I worked a long time in a demanding career, did all the additional educational degrees and credits, served on boards of professional organizations. I still have moments when I’m surprised at the idea that I can do whatever I want, whenever I want - including "nothing” if I chose. I wish my husband were here for this stage, because we’d have a good life going, but unfortunately that isn’t how it is. But, one thing he always said that sticks with me, is that “it’s all about the choices.” I’m lucky enough to be in a position where most things can be my choice. No one else gets to make judgments about them.
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