pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 23, 2022 14:02:12 GMT
abc7.com/walgreens-boycott-customers-denied-birth-control/12067835/Some customers are calling for a Walgreens boycott after claiming that some shoppers are being denied birth control and condoms. In several tweets, some customers said they were denied the products due to a cashier's moral or religious beliefs. Walgreens responded to those posts, saying company policy allows pharmacists to step away from filling a prescription if they have a moral objection. But the company said the employee is required to refer the prescription to another pharmacist or manager on duty. Frustrated customers have taken to social media with the hashtag #BoycottWalgreens to bring light to being denied birth control or condoms by cashiers.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 23, 2022 14:04:41 GMT
Um, what?! Are doctors and nurses allowed to not treat a patient due to religious/moral obligation?
This is bull crap. You are in the medical profession to help people. Full the damn rx or sell the damn condoms. Don't like that, quit.
Religion is going to ruin this country.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 23, 2022 14:21:45 GMT
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say any cashier, whether at a drugstore or any other store, is "in the medical profession".
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 23, 2022 14:26:44 GMT
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say any cashier, whether at a drugstore or any other store, is "in the medical profession". No but pharmacists are and that’s who their policy applies to.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 23, 2022 14:26:53 GMT
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say any cashier, whether at a drugstore or any other store, is "in the medical profession". Walgreens policy is to allow the pharmacist to step away and have another ring up the customer. You have to get BCP at the pharmacy counter. I have also paid for condoms and tissues there.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 23, 2022 14:31:31 GMT
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Post by mamapeaah on Jul 23, 2022 14:35:11 GMT
Does this mean if I am a vegan I can refuse to sell meat to customers of a grocery store?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 14:39:19 GMT
How do they know that they are using the pills for birth control? Birth control pills are used for other medical reason not just pregnancy prevention.
Do you have to have a Rx for condoms in the US? Crikey, they sell condoms on the supermarket shelves here in the UK.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 23, 2022 14:41:15 GMT
Do you have to have a Rx for condoms in the US? Crikey, they sell condoms on the supermarket shelves here in the UK. You can buy condoms in basically any store, no prescription needed. I can go in a gas station and buy condoms. That doesn't make the gas station cashier a medical professional.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 23, 2022 14:42:16 GMT
How do they know that they are using the pills for birth control? Birth control pills are used for other medical reason not just pregnancy prevention. Do you have to have a Rx for condoms in the US? Crikey, they sell condoms on the supermarket shelves here in the UK. No rx needed for condoms. But the way things are going I wouldn't be shocked. Funny thing is viagra is widely handed out with no issues (100% coverage with our insurance) but it's really name Sildenafil for pulmonary hypertension? $70 a month. Ask me how I know...ds was on it.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 23, 2022 14:43:10 GMT
Does this mean if I am a vegan I can refuse to sell meat to customers of a grocery store? I know there are plenty of places where Muslim workers can opt out of handling pork products. So if your veganism is part of your religious beliefs, I would say yes, your right to not sell meat would be protected if it is due to your religion.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 23, 2022 14:43:33 GMT
Do you have to have a Rx for condoms in the US? Crikey, they sell condoms on the supermarket shelves here in the UK. You can buy condoms in basically any store, no prescription needed. I can go in a gas station and buy condoms. That doesn't make the gas station cashier a medical professional. Holy crap get over it. The pharmacy person is a cashier the moment they go to the register. It sucks. Thats the point. I don't care what job title you have, ring up the customer and let them be on their way. But the people behind the counter in the pharmacy dept are medical professionals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 14:43:36 GMT
Do you have to have a Rx for condoms in the US? Crikey, they sell condoms on the supermarket shelves here in the UK. You can buy condoms in basically any store, no prescription needed. I can go in a gas station and buy condoms. That doesn't make the gas station cashier a medical professional. Ah OK so why does the article include condoms then? Do people just take them to the pharmacy counter to pay for them and it's then the cashier refuses to sell them?
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 23, 2022 14:45:00 GMT
You can buy condoms in basically any store, no prescription needed. I can go in a gas station and buy condoms. That doesn't make the gas station cashier a medical professional. Ah OK so why does the article include condoms then? Do people just take them to the pharmacy counter to pay for them and it's then the cashier refuses to sell them? They may have. I have paid for condoms at the pharmacy counter. Also regular checker line. And maybe they are kept behind the counter like decongestant meds. But BCP must be bought at pharmacy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 14:45:57 GMT
How do they know that they are using the pills for birth control? Birth control pills are used for other medical reason not just pregnancy prevention. Do you have to have a Rx for condoms in the US? Crikey, they sell condoms on the supermarket shelves here in the UK. No rx needed for condoms. But the way things are going I wouldn't be shocked. Funny thing is viagra is widely handed out with no issues (100% coverage with our insurance) but it's really name Sildenafil for pulmonary hypertension? $70 a month. Ask me how I know...ds was on it. Well of course it is - no problem at all there. Mustn't let the men luck out on their just desserts must you
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 23, 2022 14:46:15 GMT
Holy crap get over it. The pharmacy person is a cashier the moment they go to the register. I don't know why you feel the need to be rude about this. There are cashiers in a Walgreens that don't work in the pharmacy. If you choose to take your condoms to the pharmacy department to pay, then yes, that cashier works in the pharmacy. but if you go to the regular checkout that person is just a cashier.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 23, 2022 14:57:50 GMT
No rx needed for condoms. But the way things are going I wouldn't be shocked. Funny thing is viagra is widely handed out with no issues (100% coverage with our insurance) but it's really name Sildenafil for pulmonary hypertension? $70 a month. Ask me how I know...ds was on it. Well of course it is - no problem at all there. Mustn't let the men luck out on their just desserts must you Just so you know, this is actually not reality for all people. If my husband bought viagra with his insurance, it would cost $70 per pill. One person's experience is not every person's experience.
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Post by Merge on Jul 23, 2022 15:09:08 GMT
The next “Christian persecution” case we’ll see is when stores don’t want to hire Christians any more because they won’t do the job they’re being hired for.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 23, 2022 15:22:17 GMT
Religion is going to ruin this country. Religion is going to ruin the world. There I fixed it for you. most of the world's atrocities have been committed in the name of one religion or another.
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Post by jemmls4 on Jul 23, 2022 15:23:07 GMT
I think the point of the thread is lost. The article was about a regular cashier at Walgreens refusing to ring up condoms as part of a woman’s order. The cashier said birth control was against their religion so they wouldn’t sell the condoms to her. Then Walgreens backed the cashier up saying their policy is their workers can follow their religious beliefs.
It all sucks. What I do or don’t do with my body is my business. I particularly am pissed about the pharmacists objecting. I worked in healthcare and it horrifying to think that anyone in a hospital could arbitrarily decide not to provide care because they object to my religious beliefs or anything else about me they don’t like. I provided care to people with HIV, to a prisoner that was a child molester (it was really hard to be civil to that person), an alleged murdered (The hospital I worked at was closest large hospital to a prison), drug addicts, and general assholes. While I had my own thoughts about these patients I never once even considered not doing my job because I objected to them in some way. In the end they were humans that came to the place I worked and needed help and that was my job.
I do want to clarify with me mentioning HIV above…when I worked in healthcare HIV/AIDS was still pretty much a death sentence and there was a lot of prejudice. I never, ever looked down or judged anyone for it. My position was and is that it’s a virus and it does what viruses do…takes any opportunity it can to spread and infect. And my job was to do whatever I could do to help patients. Even the one guy with AIDS that liked to spit on you or try to mess up blood draws and get you to prick yourself with needles used on him hoping to infect others.
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Post by DEX on Jul 23, 2022 15:30:31 GMT
Back in the day I worked at a hospital that would allow staff to refuse to care for women who came in for abortions. Patients would be assigned to staff who had no objections to caring for abortion patients.
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Post by Merge on Jul 23, 2022 15:30:47 GMT
I think the point of the thread is lost. The article was about a regular cashier at Walgreens refusing to ring up condoms as part of a woman’s order. The cashier said birth control was against their religion so they wouldn’t sell the condoms to her. Then Walgreens backed the cashier up saying their policy is their workers can follow their religious beliefs. It all sucks. What I do or don’t do with my body is my business. I particularly am pissed about the pharmacists objecting. I worked in healthcare and it horrifying to think that anyone in a hospital could arbitrarily decide not to provide care because they object to my religious beliefs or anything else about me they don’t like. I provided care to people with HIV, to a prisoner that was a child molester (it was really hard to be civil to that person), an alleged murdered (The hospital I worked at was closest large hospital to a prison), drug addicts, and general assholes. While I had my own thoughts about these patients I never once even considered not doing my job because I objected to them in some way. In the end they were humans that came to the place I worked and needed help and that was my job. I do want to clarify with me mentioning HIV above…when I worked in healthcare HIV/AIDS was still pretty much a death sentence and there was a lot of prejudice. I never, ever looked down or judged anyone for it. My position was and is that it’s a virus and it does what viruses do…takes any opportunity it can to spread and infect. And my job was to do whatever I could do to help patients. Even the one guy with AIDS that liked to spit on you or try to mess up blood draws and get you to prick yourself with needles used on him hoping to infect others. Right? I don't get to pick and choose which parts of the curriculum I follow, or which kids I teach, based on my personal beliefs. In fact I spend a fair amount of time accommodating others' beliefs. But a cashier can just decide not to do part of their job? Please. It's ridiculous.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2022 15:31:16 GMT
I’m sorry, but if it’s against your beliefs or religion to use birth control, why do you expect everyone else to follow that? Why is it OK to impose your religion, your values, your beliefs on someone else? And if you’re not willing to sell birth control or condoms at a pharmacy, find another job.
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Post by Merge on Jul 23, 2022 15:31:43 GMT
Back in the day I worked at a hospital that would allow staff to refuse to care for women who came in for abortions. Patients would be assigned to staff who had no objections to caring for abortion patients. And if there was a shortage, or no one available when needed, the patient would just ... go without care?
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Post by Merge on Jul 23, 2022 15:32:43 GMT
I’m sorry, but if it’s against your beliefs or religion to use birth control, why do you expect everyone else to follow that? Why is it OK to impose your religion, your values, your beliefs on someone else? And if you’re not willing to sell birth control or condoms at a pharmacy, find another job. And if you work in a bakery and don't want to sell cakes for same-sex weddings, don't be in the cake business. This isn't hard.
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Post by chances on Jul 23, 2022 15:35:42 GMT
I can’t believe the national chain is supporting this. The issue with “religious objections” from pharmacist has already been affirmed. I think it’s a dangerous, awful, policy but I would understand if this was a pharmacist. Walgreens is allowing cashiers to decide what to sell or not is expanding this non-sense to a new level.
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Post by DEX on Jul 23, 2022 15:36:36 GMT
Back in the day I worked at a hospital that would allow staff to refuse to care for women who came in for abortions. Patients would be assigned to staff who had no objections to caring for abortion patients. And if there was a shortage, or no one available when needed, the patient would just ... go without care? Of course not. You simply were assigned another patient. No one was ever denied care.
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Post by chances on Jul 23, 2022 15:43:34 GMT
I’m sorry, but if it’s against your beliefs or religion to use birth control, why do you expect everyone else to follow that? Why is it OK to impose your religion, your values, your beliefs on someone else? And if you’re not willing to sell birth control or condoms at a pharmacy, find another job. I agree. If you refuse to perform the *essential functions * of your job, why are you there? It just makes me so mad whenever the assurance that “someone else will fill the prescription” is trotted out. We have seen that there are some stores where no one will provide birth control bc they all have religious objections and there is not an abundance of options in every city.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 23, 2022 15:53:47 GMT
Federal law mandates that workplaces must accommodate their employees' sincerely held religious beliefs as long as it does not cause undue hardship. So yes Muslims can request to not work with pork (vegetarianism isn't considered a religion, but if your religion precludes consumption of meat, the same standard would apply). There are entire guidelines on how to accommodate different religions need for uniform and grooming modifications. There's been long standing rules regarding pharmacists being able to turn patients over to another pharmacist. As an aside abortion services is the only rotation medical students can refuse. I think giant bins of condoms should be available on every street corner, so think this cashier is a moron, but Walgreen's need to adhere to federal law by allowing another cashier to ring up the patron is probably not going to hit "undue burden" threshold.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 23, 2022 15:55:26 GMT
There are multiple incidents that started this, one of which involved a cashier and condoms and others involved pharmacists and prescribed contraceptives.
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