istamp247
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Post by istamp247 on Jun 23, 2023 14:50:18 GMT
I have never had a problem getting access to the classes that I've paid for. In May I paid for a few and have yet to be able to access. I've emailed her now three times and sent a DM via instagram. I'm not sure what else to do. I love her content but this is very frustrating. Hopefully she responds soon. I feel like I'm missing out not having access to the new class....
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Post by honeypea on Jun 23, 2023 16:00:52 GMT
I’m so confused by the layout on her class forums, I feel like I’m on a scavenger hunt to locate class videos.
Has This Year’s Story had videos posted since the “choosing photos/organizing digital photo” video? I keep thinking I’m missing something.
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christinec68
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 23, 2023 16:59:45 GMT
I have never had a problem getting access to the classes that I've paid for. In May I paid for a few and have yet to be able to access. I've emailed her now three times and sent a DM via instagram. I'm not sure what else to do. I love her content but this is very frustrating. Hopefully she responds soon. I feel like I'm missing out not having access to the new class.... This is where I am with getting my password reset so I can access older classes. 2 emails, 2 messages on instagram over the past month. She posted last week she was working through her inbox and would post an update on how far she got. Of course she didn’t do that which is her typical MO. 🙄😒
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 23, 2023 17:06:37 GMT
So for those who have continual problems, do you keeo going back because of her price points? I have thought about a few of her classes but never end up paying because I don't want to wait a month or more to gain access.
It seems Shimelle has taken on more than she can handle and needs to either drop some stuff or get some help to keep her organized and on time.
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christinec68
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 23, 2023 17:40:39 GMT
So for those who have continual problems, do you keeo going back because of her price points? I have thought about a few of her classes but never end up paying because I don't want to wait a month or more to gain access. It seems Shimelle has taken on more than she can handle and needs to either drop some stuff or get some help to keep her organized and on time. This is the first time I am having a problem with a password reset but in general I won't purchase a live class from her. I can't think of one that I signed up for that finished on time. If she has a sale, I might consider purchasing a completed class from a couple of years ago but that's it.
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jun 24, 2023 3:52:49 GMT
Has This Year’s Story had videos posted since the “choosing photos/organizing digital photo” video? There are three videos now in the Starter Class: Album Mindset section - the choosing photos video, story placement in your album, and the third appeared overnight which is the first scrapping video for those photos in the previous two videos.
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Post by honeypea on Jun 24, 2023 15:28:06 GMT
Has This Year’s Story had videos posted since the “choosing photos/organizing digital photo” video? There are three videos now in the Starter Class: Album Mindset section - the choosing photos video, story placement in your album, and the third appeared overnight which is the first scrapping video for those photos in the previous two videos. Thank you! I wish she’d post in the top/stickied/header a Table of Contents. It would be so helpful! Even if it wasn’t complete from the start, and she added each line as it went live with the corresponding hyperlink. Although, a complete list for Table of Contents to start would bd awesome, with the lines becoming hyperlinks as they are loaded would be best! I get so lost every time trying to find a particular video from any class series. I’m not even sure what this current class is supposed to consist of, so I was unsure if maybe it had already concluded.
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kitbop
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Post by kitbop on Jun 24, 2023 20:46:13 GMT
So for those who have continual problems, do you keeo going back because of her price points? Shimelle has stated many times that she knows she has issues. I wish she could fix them, and sign up for these live classes *knowing* I will be waiting and delayed. But I sign up anyways because her classes and content have helped my process and way of thinking about scrapping so very much, far more than any other classes or content I've seen in 25 years. She has helped me get comfortable in my style, work with colour and product without guilt and with less obsession over perfection or hoarding. She makes usable sketches, and is actually producing pages with story on them. I like her philosophy and approach, and since I want to see her continue in this business I support her even with the flaws in the system! Even I get annoyed and twitchy when things are this delayed, but in the end, it's her content that I'm supporting. I figure it's a small contribution to keep her in the biz, and teaches me patience
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jun 25, 2023 1:24:11 GMT
I wish she’d post in the top/stickied/header a Table of Contents. It would be so helpful! Even if it wasn’t complete from the start, and she added each line as it went live with the corresponding hyperlink. Although, a complete list for Table of Contents to start would bd awesome, with the lines becoming hyperlinks as they are loaded would be best! I get so lost every time trying to find a particular video from any class series. I’m not even sure what this current class is supposed to consist of, so I was unsure if maybe it had already concluded. This is a great idea, though I have no confidence she'd be able to maintain it. It seemed to work better when she emailed as content was added to classes, which always included a link directly to the relevant post/video. I've gotten in the habit of checking every few days to see if something new has been added.
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jun 25, 2023 1:25:55 GMT
So for those who have continual problems, do you keeo going back because of her price points? Shimelle has stated many times that she knows she has issues. I wish she could fix them, and sign up for these live classes *knowing* I will be waiting and delayed. But I sign up anyways because her classes and content have helped my process and way of thinking about scrapping so very much, far more than any other classes or content I've seen in 25 years. She has helped me get comfortable in my style, work with colour and product without guilt and with less obsession over perfection or hoarding. She makes usable sketches, and is actually producing pages with story on them. I like her philosophy and approach, and since I want to see her continue in this business I support her even with the flaws in the system! Even I get annoyed and twitchy when things are this delayed, but in the end, it's her content that I'm supporting. I figure it's a small contribution to keep her in the biz, and teaches me patience I'm lucky that I haven't (yet) had any issues with access or otherwise, but all these reasons hold true for why I continue to support her business despite knowing about all the problems others have.
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Post by joblackford on Jun 25, 2023 2:17:38 GMT
So for those who have continual problems, do you keeo going back because of her price points? I have thought about a few of her classes but never end up paying because I don't want to wait a month or more to gain access. It seems Shimelle has taken on more than she can handle and needs to either drop some stuff or get some help to keep her organized and on time. I totally understand the frustrations people have. I’ve been there too, though usually JYC related which I forgive because I paid once and have gotten 10 years of content. But from what I see the solution would be for her to become a different person or expand her business by bringing on help or automating things. Paying for someone to do admin all the time or for a more automated system would increase prices which I think she prides herself in keeping low. I think she worries that it would turn her business into something far bigger than she has the heart or diligence to maintain. Do you know what I mean? I think she wants this business to stay small and personal. Some might say she’s self sabotaging. But especially with WB’s “projects” taking off I think she should get admin help. It would free her up to do the creative stuff with less stress and help stop the shame spiral/anxiety she gets into when she gets behind. Personally I would pay a little extra for classes to make that happen, or pay a renewal fee for JYC, but I don’t know how much more money it would take. Another online class entrepreneur (in another field) I follow, who has an admin assistant, charges a LOT more for her classes, like 10x more, far more than I would ever pay.
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Post by honeypea on Jun 25, 2023 18:29:13 GMT
I agree with all that, joblackford She has, at times past, had a hired hand for certain tasks. It would be great if that was a regular thing - someone to deal with the tedious time consuming behind the scenes stuff (the site access, password reset, etc sounds like a constant thing) so Shimelle could keep up with the creative end. It seems her availability is limited and sporadic.
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Post by kmage on Jun 25, 2023 19:00:18 GMT
But I sign up anyways because her classes and content have helped my process and way of thinking about scrapping so very much, far more than any other classes or content I've seen in 25 years. She has helped me get comfortable in my style, work with colour and product without guilt and with less obsession over perfection or hoarding. She makes usable sketches, and is actually producing pages with story on them. I like her philosophy and approach, and since I want to see her continue in this business I support her even with the flaws in the system! Thanks kitbop for taking the words out of my head and typing them out! This is 100% how I feel. I don't feel talked down to, annoyed or like I am being constantly badgered to buy something. I enjoy Shimelle, and she makes me happy.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 25, 2023 20:40:03 GMT
But I sign up anyways because her classes and content have helped my process and way of thinking about scrapping so very much, far more than any other classes or content I've seen in 25 years. She has helped me get comfortable in my style, work with colour and product without guilt and with less obsession over perfection or hoarding. She makes usable sketches, and is actually producing pages with story on them. I like her philosophy and approach, and since I want to see her continue in this business I support her even with the flaws in the system! Thanks kitbop for taking the words out of my head and typing them out! This is 100% how I feel. I don't feel talked down to, annoyed or like I am being constantly badgered to buy something. I enjoy Shimelle, and she makes me happy. Me three! Shimelle's loyal returning customers despite the recurring technical issues are simply so inspired by her work, mindset and classes that they are somehow able the eventually overcome the annoyance of being stuck in no man's land when something goes wrong upong signing up, resetting a password, changing an email address or other. I'm one of them. Shimelle's final scrappy output isn't even my style but I've learnt so much and been so inspired to actually get scrappin' and, most importantly, get finishin' (and be genuinely happy with what I've done) that I keep coming back. She's my "realistic gem" in the industry.
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jun 25, 2023 22:54:10 GMT
I don't feel ... like I am being constantly badgered to buy something. This is probably one of the things I most like about her. I love seeing all the old products she uses in her classes, I love that she's been incorporating bits into her BOBW videos, like the Sasafrass alpha this month, and I love that she actively encourages people to shop at an LSS or use their stash to join her BOBW even though it would be a smarter financial decision to get everyone to buy the kit through her link.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 25, 2023 23:43:59 GMT
This thread and the interesting remarks you've all made about Shimelle as a small business owner and her shop-your-own-stash appoach have left me thinking about Shimelle, the brand. Yes, she had branded products with AC. Yes, she obviously is instantly recognised as a name in the industry. Yes, she still produces pay-for content. But overall, she's one of the very few influencers today who treat themselves as just teachers, not peddlers. There is no catch with her. You don't sign up at a very reasonable price as a lure to be FOMO-d into purchasing other products. There's no hidden labyrinth of scrappy lust.
Shimelle is actually first and foremost the person, not the brand. She's not interested in today's main game. It's refreshing. And when you combine it with her obvious scrapbooking talents and knowledge, it's a winner. I just wish she'd find a solution for her board that would be manageable and financially sound. Something she, Shimelle-the-person-not-the-brand, would be completely ok with and that would greatly improve the experience of the wisdom and motivation she has to offer.
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christinec68
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 25, 2023 23:52:54 GMT
Eventually, her classes deliver a ton of information...she's thorough with her design decisions, product decisions, etc. Even though most of her classes that I have taken go over schedule, she frequently adds an extra lesson/video or something to make up for it. Most of her repeat customers are aware and know going in there's a good chance of this happening. I have learned so much and have been very inspired by the content she has shared and/or sold: watch for trapped white space, slightly offsetting mats behind pictures, not lining up certain page elements...techniques now ingrained in my head because of her videos. On top of that, her videos are enjoyable to watch! While it's nice her classes are affordable, they are worth nothing without access. I am not even sure where to contact her to reset my password. I learned here that clicking the forgot password link on the website doesn't work. I tried emailing her, nothing. Messaging her on Instagram, nothing. Eta...I get the technology aspect is her weak spot but that isn't an excuse to ignore it. I don't know how long it takes to give some access to a new class or send a password reset link takes but letting it back up for weeks is not the answer.
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Post by joblackford on Jun 26, 2023 0:09:30 GMT
I am not even sure where to contact her to reset my password. I learned here that clicking the forgot password link on the website doesn't work. I tried emailing her, nothing. Messaging her on Instagram, nothing. The password reset link is rubbish and she does warn people about that. It's always caught by spam filters. An average person who doesn't watch all things Shimelle wouldn't know that though. Facebook messaging is not recommended. Emailing her is the best method - shimelle at gmail dot com if I remember correctly, and the IG DMs are a good backup but not sufficient alone. But if those don't work, which clearly they sometimes don't, people seem to resort to complaining in the live chat... which is really not good for anyone (not for the person who has to watch the livestream and hope she sees their question, and def not for her either). I think emailing again is the only way but ugh ugh ugh, there's gotta be a better way!
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christinec68
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 26, 2023 0:15:00 GMT
I am not even sure where to contact her to reset my password. I learned here that clicking the forgot password link on the website doesn't work. I tried emailing her, nothing. Messaging her on Instagram, nothing. The password reset link is rubbish and she does warn people about that. It's always caught by spam filters. An average person who doesn't watch all things Shimelle wouldn't know that though. Facebook messaging is not recommended. Emailing her is the best method - shimelle at gmail dot com if I remember correctly, and the IG DMs are a good backup but not sufficient alone. But if those don't work, which clearly they sometimes don't, people seem to resort to complaining in the live chat... which is really not good for anyone (not for the person who has to watch the livestream and hope she sees their question, and def not for her either). I think emailing again is the only way but ugh ugh ugh, there's gotta be a better way! Exactly! I sent 2 emails to her Gmail account and 2 or 3 Instagram DMs. I have neither the time or inclination to watch a livestream hoping she answers me and I'm pretty sure the answer would be "working on it" "I'll get to it" or some other nonsense. I'll try emailing again. Maybe 3rd time's the charm?? Thanks!
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Post by hoopsfn on Jun 26, 2023 13:35:35 GMT
I'm sorry that there seems to be trouble with access to Shimelle's classes. Her website is sort of confusing, even for people who have followed her for a long time. But I've taken several classes of hers throughout the years and I'm always pleased with the content. I'm not good with computer stuff in general but find that she is worth the trouble. And she has been a constant in the sb world for several years and is still enthusiastic about what she does. I just like her.
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paperhearts
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Post by paperhearts on Jun 26, 2023 18:41:21 GMT
I apologize if this sounds ignorant but can someone explain the reason behind Shimelle’s “advertising” speech at the beginning of her YT videos. I’ve never heard any other content creator do anything similar. Even Vicki Boutin who does her FNL videos and classes doesn’t have a spiel like Shimelle. Thanks I’m advance!
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 26, 2023 18:53:44 GMT
I apologize if this sounds ignorant but can someone explain the reason behind Shimelle’s “advertising” speech at the beginning of her YT videos. I’ve never heard any other content creator do anything similar. Even Vicki Boutin who does her FNL videos and classes doesn’t have a spiel like Shimelle. Thanks I’m advance! Do you mean the basic advertisement disclosure appearing on screen on the black banner? If so, she's abiding by the law. Not all scrapbookers live in the same country. Each country/region of the world (like the EU) has their own set of disclosure rules.
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paperhearts
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Post by paperhearts on Jun 26, 2023 18:56:48 GMT
I apologize if this sounds ignorant but can someone explain the reason behind Shimelle’s “advertising” speech at the beginning of her YT videos. I’ve never heard any other content creator do anything similar. Even Vicki Boutin who does her FNL videos and classes doesn’t have a spiel like Shimelle. Thanks I’m advance! Do you mean the basic advertisement disclosure appearing on screen on the black banner? If so, she's abiding by the law. Not all scrapbookers live in the same country. Each country/region of the world (like the EU) has their own set of disclosure rules. I was actually referring to her spoken speech but your explanation makes sense. It never occurred to me it was something that would be required by law in her country. Explains why none of the US creators do it.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 26, 2023 19:02:51 GMT
Do you mean the basic advertisement disclosure appearing on screen on the black banner? If so, she's abiding by the law. Not all scrapbookers live in the same country. Each country/region of the world (like the EU) has their own set of disclosure rules. I was actually referring to her spoken speech but your explanation makes sense. It never occurred to me it was something that would be required by law in her country. Explains why none of the US creators do it. In the UK where Shimelle lives, all marketing communications have to be obviously identifiable. She's just doing what she should be. Scrapbooking is still very US-centric so if you're American yourself and follow mostly American creators on social media, I guess you may not have been exposed to such explicit disclosures yet. Mystery cleared!
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Post by sarahsprettypapers on Jun 26, 2023 20:53:44 GMT
Just like the responses above, even though I have had difficulty gaining access to one class in the past, I still keep purchasing new things from her. I love Shimelle's teaching style, and she provides excellent content for the price she charges. She creates lesson plans for each of her classes and I find her passion for teaching about layering, colors, photography (or anything honestly) inspiring. I have never felt pressured to purchase things from her either, which is always a plus.
That being said, yes, I did already sign up for/gain access to her new Use What You Buy: Punches class. I have been wanting a scallop border punch for ages now, and even though the premise of the class is use what is in my stash... I may just treat myself!
I hope anyone having difficulty with access gets help soon. In the past, I have found she is most responsive on Instagram and during her live YouTube sessions on Mondays and Fridays. If you are able to pop in to a session and contribute to the live chat, start with "QUESTION: I need help with..." and type out what the problem is. That way she can easily see it when she reviews the chat. I have seen her stop what she is working on and take a quick note during multiple different live sessions when people have asked about class access before. Shimelle really does try her best, and that's why I like to support her.
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istamp247
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Post by istamp247 on Jun 26, 2023 22:33:50 GMT
So for those who have continual problems, do you keeo going back because of her price points? I have thought about a few of her classes but never end up paying because I don't want to wait a month or more to gain access. It seems Shimelle has taken on more than she can handle and needs to either drop some stuff or get some help to keep her organized and on time. This is the first time I've had issues. She did finally get back with me and I now have access. Supposedly her emails and direct messages weren't making their way to me. I keep going back to Shimelle because I like her style and she's fun!
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Post by joblackford on Jun 26, 2023 23:13:54 GMT
Do you mean the basic advertisement disclosure appearing on screen on the black banner? If so, she's abiding by the law. Not all scrapbookers live in the same country. Each country/region of the world (like the EU) has their own set of disclosure rules. I was actually referring to her spoken speech but your explanation makes sense. It never occurred to me it was something that would be required by law in her country. Explains why none of the US creators do it. Most creators just have a disclaimer in their description box that says they are using affiliate links and/or that the video includes sponsored content, kind of like the IG people who let you read a big long thing and then use #ad (bit late if you didn’t want to be advertised to). Shimelle has said she does the speech because that’s her interpretation of the disclosure rules under the British law and she would rather say it and be upfront about her financial interest than get in trouble. She’s an anxious nerd and she also genuinely doesn’t want to mislead people. IMO all of the creators who make money from recommending products should make that clear at the beginning of everything they do (regardless of where they live) but most don’t, or only say that they were given this item but their opinion is unbiased, or that they aren’t being paid to say this or that. I guess most people assume paid influencing is the default.
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Post by joblackford on Jun 26, 2023 23:18:50 GMT
Have we talked about “the elephant in the room” which is what Shimelle has been calling her new collection that got leaked early? She’s being doing a very good job with “I couldn’t possibly comment” responses. She said she’s going to try to revive her IG this week ahead of the official release announcement on Thursday or Friday (?) and she might just post elephant related content as a livestream in-joke.
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chendra
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Post by chendra on Jun 26, 2023 23:36:16 GMT
I just googled the name of the new collection to see if there was any news and a store has it up already!
I'm hesitant to post a link because I don't want to cause a kerfuffle since the store appears to have jumped the gun. Bright colors, non-gendered, positive blurbs, cameras--just what Shimelle fans appreciate. 😀
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jun 27, 2023 10:55:32 GMT
I just googled the name of the new collection to see if there was any news and a store has it up already! Ooh, thanks for the heads up! There's a few pieces in this I quite like, and some that are just too bright for me. The purple glitter alpha is going to be a love it or hate it item for sure. It's not my favourite shade of purple, I prefer the titles thickers, especially the large open heart with the title that sits in it. There are some nice B sides, and some patterns that are a very easy pass. I'm not normally a layered sticker person but I find these surprisingly charming, and the stamps looks very versatile. I hope this line does well for and we see more collections in the future.
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