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Post by peasapie on Feb 23, 2023 22:20:27 GMT
So the fact that today he is admitting to ripping off his clients and blaming it on his drug addiction makes me wonder if he is hoping to appear to the jury like a sincere and (now) honest individual. He would then go to jail for the financial crimes but potentially introduce enough doubt to avoid going to the electric chair for murder.
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Post by ~KellyAnn~ on Feb 23, 2023 22:20:51 GMT
I am so silly, on our way to Florida, we took a slight detour to go by the courthouse. My DH knows now how crazy I am! Then I'm silly, too. When I was in North Port, FL last year, my dd and I purposely drove past the Laundrie's home. (Brian Laundrie-Gabby Pettito case).
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Post by disneypal on Feb 23, 2023 22:33:51 GMT
I’m having a hard time understanding how all of this questioning about the badge and the night of the boat accident has anything to do with the murders? I believe that all the business about the badge and blue lights on his car along with all the questioning about how he stole money from clients is just to show what his character is - the prosecution is trying to show the jury that he can't be trusted because he deceives and lies and trying to show that if he would lie about all that, he would lie about committing murder. It is all to discredit him.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 23, 2023 22:40:08 GMT
I went looking on YouTube for an updated analysis by the body language men. I can't find one. Is there one out there? If you mean from the same guys of the video I linked - they haven't done any more of him currently. They might do another one now that he's taken the stand...it depends a bit on if he does much that's worth them talking about or if a lot of people request it. They just pick random videos to discuss...but they did quite a few from the Heard/Depp trials because interest was high and she had so much going on from a body language/deception perspective. I managed to see about 30 mins of him on the stand while I was on my break at work...some of the things he said during that time were quite different to what he said in that initial police interview. I see he's worked out how to get real tears this time, possibly because he's scared for himself now.. Despite all the crying and shaking I didn't think he came across at all believable or likeable.
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Post by Gem Girl on Feb 23, 2023 23:33:24 GMT
He's questioning every question, then filibustering. "Were you the primary breadwinner" is a super simple yes or no question. If I was the attorney I'd be fuming. Sounds to me like they need a more powerful attorney working for the state. The person on the stand getting to expound on a yes-or-no question doesn't usually happen.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Feb 24, 2023 0:25:04 GMT
Saw some if it today. I'm cooped up in hospital, maybe I'll get more watched tomorrow.
He creeps me out. And I think he's guilty. But I also think HE totally thinks he'll get away with it.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 24, 2023 2:26:36 GMT
Saw some if it today. I'm cooped up in hospital, maybe I'll get more watched tomorrow. He creeps me out. And I think he's guilty. But I also think HE totally thinks he'll get away with it. He is entitled and showing it well.. Or rather he has been entitled all his life! Sounds familiar.
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Post by CeeScraps on Feb 24, 2023 13:32:28 GMT
He's questioning every question, then filibustering. "Were you the primary breadwinner" is a super simple yes or no question. If I was the attorney I'd be fuming. Sounds to me like they need a more powerful attorney working for the state. The person on the stand getting to expound on a yes-or-no question doesn't usually happen. Someone talked about how when questioned it is usually yes/no reponses. The Judge has allowed this. That is why no one is stopping it.
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Post by sunshine36616 on Feb 24, 2023 13:38:04 GMT
I think they are setting up nicely for "Yeah this guy is a thieving piece of shit....but he didn't kill his family" verdict.
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Post by sunshine36616 on Feb 24, 2023 13:52:29 GMT
I'm a Johnny come lately to the trial, have we seen actual evidence of this big pill problem he had? I certainly don't doubt it's possible.
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Post by quinlove on Feb 24, 2023 14:32:52 GMT
I'm a Johnny come lately to the trial, have we seen actual evidence of this big pill problem he had? I certainly don't doubt it's possible. I have been thinking this exact thing too. I’d like some proof.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 24, 2023 16:36:41 GMT
He's questioning every question, then filibustering. "Were you the primary breadwinner" is a super simple yes or no question. If I was the attorney I'd be fuming. Sounds to me like they need a more powerful attorney working for the state. The person on the stand getting to expound on a yes-or-no question doesn't usually happen. Sounds to me like they need a more powerful attorney working for the state. The person on the stand getting to expound on a yes-or-no question doesn't usually happen. Someone talked about how when questioned it is usually yes/no reponses. The Judge has allowed this. That is why no one is stopping it. The prosecution does not want THEIR witnesses going beyond yes or no. The same for the defense!! The prosecution is pleased to have him ramble on and expose himself/his lies. Everything he is saying can now be used if they charge him with stealing, fraud, all charges related to his other crimes. He is admitting it all. It is not a matter of whether the judge is allowing it.
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Post by oh yvonne on Feb 24, 2023 17:40:49 GMT
Well. Because of this thread I watched the Netflix doc last night and wow, no wonder this story is all over the news.
I kept seeing his paunchy beady eyed face and hearing his name but I honestly didn't pay attention, just like I didn't follow the Gabby Petito story. Just another white family murder making headlines while POC all over are murdered everyday and no one gives a shit. (sorry, it's a sore spot for me)
However, I mean. What? What a crazy, crazy story. The documentary is only what 4 episodes long and it's barely scratching the surface! And, the older son, what's his name Bubba? Buddy? He's still walking free right now. Incredible, I'm hooked on following this now.
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Post by mikewozowski on Feb 24, 2023 17:45:34 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 24, 2023 17:46:47 GMT
Older son is Buster.
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Post by ntsf on Feb 24, 2023 17:49:53 GMT
my husband was in the hospital for a few weeks during the simpson trial. he watched it all day. now, he is recovering from leg surgery (months of recovery) so now he found a new trial to obsess over... so it is on the tv way too much!! he thinks the guy is a total liar.
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Post by mikewozowski on Feb 24, 2023 17:54:51 GMT
Yes, he is a total liar, but does that make him a murderer?
I don't think the prosecution has done a great job. Motive, to gain sympathy and redirect peoples attention, a reason for murder? That's a stretch.
I missed the part where there was blood found on the t-shirt and then that was found to be false.
SLED bungled the investigation.
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Post by mandolyn9909 on Feb 24, 2023 17:56:01 GMT
Well. Because of this thread I watched the Netflix doc last night and wow, no wonder this story is all over the news. I kept seeing his paunchy beady eyed face and hearing his name but I honestly didn't pay attention, just like I didn't follow the Gabby Petito story. Just another white family murder making headlines while POC all over are murdered everyday and no one gives a shit. (sorry, it's a sore spot for me) However, I mean. What? What a crazy, crazy story. The documentary is only what 4 episodes long and it's barely scratching the surface! And, the older son, what's his name Bubba? Buddy? He's still walking free right now. Incredible, I'm hooked on following this now. The other brother was Buster (the 2nd or 3rd LOL). One of the surprising things in the documentary was how reckless the teens are/were. I can't believe they didn't have a casualty earlier, as it sounded like there was lots of underage drinking / driving with little to no supervision...almost encouraged. I have two 18 year olds and I can't imagine. Mallory died at 19 in a boat full of other 19 year old's after partying all night. It sounded like they had been drinking and partying like that for years....wow.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 24, 2023 17:56:23 GMT
i don't think electric chair is an option. The state took the death penalty off the table. The state's attorney general did not elaborate on why, but other familiar with the case have expounded on the suppositions. Death penalty cases are expensive. The state (at least in SC) has an obligation to provide some resources to the defense. An average death penalty case can generate up to a half million dollars in additional expenses and this case is far from average - the numbers could have been astronomical. Plus, if he was convicted and given the death penalty, it would have kicked off a bunch of automatic and expensive appeals. His care in prison would have become automatically more expensive. And so on.
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Post by edie3 on Feb 24, 2023 18:31:27 GMT
Death penalty cases are expensive I gotta wonder how much this is costing the county even as a non death penalty case.
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Post by sabrinae on Feb 24, 2023 18:54:13 GMT
Death penalty cases are expensive I gotta wonder how much this is costing the county even as a non death penalty case. A lot. A whole lot. Death penalty cases can easily hit the million dollar mark. Even with the death penalty off the table it’s incredibly expensive and greatly impacts all the other cases that remain pending while this sucks up the resources.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 24, 2023 18:59:43 GMT
I think they are setting up nicely for "Yeah this guy is a thieving piece of shit....but he didn't kill his family" verdict. Same. It could come down to whether or not the jury thinks that him admitting to the other crimes but denying the murders shows that he is telling the truth or if they just see him as a liar.
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Post by Jen in NCal on Feb 24, 2023 20:39:05 GMT
I haven't watched a lot and I haven't read anything here, but IMO the drug-induced paranoia can come back to bite him. What if he thought his wife and son were colluding behind his back to take his money, turn him in, kill him?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 24, 2023 20:39:58 GMT
I’m finding the back and forth between the prosecutor and Murdaugh to be annoying. Mostly because the lawyer seems to be harping on certain things like whether or not he sees himself as successful, etc. Without knowing Alec outside of this, he seems to be trying really hard to make sure he is answering in a way that couldn’t be misconstrued. I think the lawyer is trying to get him to explode on the stand. I don’t know if Murdaugh is guilty of murder or not (and haven’t seen enough of the evidence) but the lawyer bothers me.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 25, 2023 2:02:18 GMT
I haven't watched a lot and I haven't read anything here, but IMO the drug-induced paranoia can come back to bite him. What if he thought his wife and son were colluding behind his back to take his money, turn him in, kill him? A very good point.
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Post by femalebusiness on Feb 25, 2023 2:04:17 GMT
So the fact that today he is admitting to ripping off his clients and blaming it on his drug addiction makes me wonder if he is hoping to appear to the jury like a sincere and (now) honest individual. He would then go to jail for the financial crimes but potentially introduce enough doubt to avoid going to the electric chair for murder. Bingo! It may well work back there unfortunately.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 25, 2023 2:22:26 GMT
With the missing millions there many be people willing to bump him off if he walks or does short time in jail...
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Post by CeeScraps on Feb 25, 2023 11:33:04 GMT
With all this drug addiction talk does that mean since he has been in jail he has gone through withdrawal?
Would there be someone who could of been put on the stand to verify this?
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Post by dizzycheermom on Feb 26, 2023 23:42:59 GMT
Thursday evening we watched the netflix special! So crazy!
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 26, 2023 23:56:32 GMT
With all this drug addiction talk does that mean since he has been in jail he has gone through withdrawal? Would there be someone who could of been put on the stand to verify this? Plenty of drugs in jail!
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