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Post by epeanymous on Feb 26, 2023 23:59:12 GMT
I gotta wonder how much this is costing the county even as a non death penalty case. A lot. A whole lot. Death penalty cases can easily hit the million dollar mark. Even with the death penalty off the table it’s incredibly expensive and greatly impacts all the other cases that remain pending while this sucks up the resources. My SC office had one DP case, and, in an office with 14 lawyers, the one case took one lawyer's full time for six months, another for three, and another for one. For perspective, at the time, I had around 275 clients including multiple non-death-penalty murder cases. A lot of DP work is mitigation work, which you don't do much of in non-DP cases.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 27, 2023 0:20:51 GMT
I've been able to get so much done around my house this weekend without the trial going on. I don't watch all-day-every-day but it's hard to not get sucked in when I'm home. Tomorrow, I'll have the live coverage back on and try to get stuff done in the breaks. I just find this very compelling as it's in my state. I have a Kevin-Bacon-degree-of-separation with some of the key players. Two friends of mine have actually gone and sat in the courtroom while the trial is going on. And the rest of us are obsessed with it as this is South Carolina good-old-boy-politics at its finest.
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Post by quinlove on Feb 27, 2023 0:47:21 GMT
I've been able to get so much done around my house this weekend without the trial going on. I don't watch all-day-every-day but it's hard to not get sucked in when I'm home. Tomorrow, I'll have the live coverage back on and try to get stuff done in the breaks. I just find this very compelling as it's in my state. I have a Kevin-Bacon-degree-of-separation with some of the key players. Two friends of mine have actually gone and sat in the courtroom while the trial is going on. And the rest of us are obsessed with it as this is South Carolina good-old-boy-politics at its finest. Same. My court tv is only on my tv with over the air antenna. I can’t pause it or record it. So, I’m pretty much glued to it. The other day I thought I could make a quick run to the store during lunch break, but they had been pausing it so much for commercials, there really was no lunch break for the viewers.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 27, 2023 0:51:56 GMT
The other day I thought I could make a quick run to the store during lunch break, but they had been pausing it so much for commercials, there really was no lunch break for the viewers. That's my reality, too.
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Post by edie3 on Feb 27, 2023 2:12:36 GMT
I'll have the live coverage back on I guess this was the best time for me to get Covid! I was even able to get my DH interested in it. The case, not Covid! But he has it too.
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Post by mamallama on Feb 27, 2023 7:01:02 GMT
With all this drug addiction talk does that mean since he has been in jail he has gone through withdrawal? Would there be someone who could of been put on the stand to verify this? Supposedly he went to rehab before he was arrested
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Post by mamallama on Feb 27, 2023 7:03:25 GMT
There’s a new 3 episode series on hbo max or Hulu live about it. We just watched it tonight and it gave a lot more detail.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 12:26:26 GMT
I've been able to get so much done around my house this weekend without the trial going on. I don't watch all-day-every-day but it's hard to not get sucked in when I'm home. Tomorrow, I'll have the live coverage back on and try to get stuff done in the breaks. I just find this very compelling as it's in my state. I have a Kevin-Bacon-degree-of-separation with some of the key players. Two friends of mine have actually gone and sat in the courtroom while the trial is going on. And the rest of us are obsessed with it as this is South Carolina good-old-boy-politics at its finest. I grew up in Goose Creek until the age of 14, so I am VERY familiar with the good-old-boy system. My mom worked for a prominent attorney as well and lordy, lordy...all the shady stuff that went on in Charleston. Don't get me started on the Ravenel family. One of my very close friends from there has attended several sessions, one of those days was one in which Alec testified. Her commentary on FB has been interesting to say the least. She calls Alec..."Ole Poot"!
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Post by uksue on Feb 27, 2023 13:48:03 GMT
I watched the Eric Alan YouTube videos last year and have listened to all the Mandy Matney podcasts. I've been hooked on the trial. The whole thing would be unbelievable if it was fiction.
I think the prosecution and have sled have done a pretty shoddy job and won't be at all surprised if the jury hangs
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 27, 2023 14:39:10 GMT
I guess this was the best time for me to get Covid! Sorry you have Covid. Hope it's a mild case. She calls Alec..."Ole Poot"! The lead defense attorney is Dick Harpootlian. She's probably referring to him. That seems to be what everyone is calling him lately.
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Post by edie3 on Feb 27, 2023 16:06:39 GMT
I'm getting better! But my nose is running like Alex Murdaugh's nose.
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Post by uksue on Feb 27, 2023 16:09:21 GMT
I'm getting better! But my nose is running like Alex Murdaugh's nose. Bet you aren't letting it pour into your lap for dramatic effect though 😁
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 16:14:59 GMT
She calls Alec..."Ole Poot"! The lead defense attorney is Dick Harpootlian. She's probably referring to him. That seems to be what everyone is calling him lately. I am sure that you are right. I watched the Netflix bit but honestly, I haven't watched the trial. Absolutely none of it surprises me because I grew up knowing people/families like them. That whole family...ugh.
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Post by edie3 on Feb 27, 2023 16:23:54 GMT
Bet you aren't letting it pour into your lap for dramatic effect though Well, no, not that!
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 27, 2023 17:50:40 GMT
I watched the Eric Alan YouTube videos last year and have listened to all the Mandy Matney podcasts. I've been hooked on the trial. The whole thing would be unbelievable if it was fiction. I think the prosecution and have sled have done a pretty shoddy job and won't be at all surprised if the jury hangs Honestly the reason I was a little surprised Murdaugh took the stand is that the prosecution hasn't done a great job so it's IMHO a better reasonable doubt case if you don't hear from him directly, since he had to admit a bunch of times on the stand that he's a liar.
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Post by femalebusiness on Feb 27, 2023 20:13:13 GMT
I watched the Eric Alan YouTube videos last year and have listened to all the Mandy Matney podcasts. I've been hooked on the trial. The whole thing would be unbelievable if it was fiction. I think the prosecution and have sled have done a pretty shoddy job and won't be at all surprised if the jury hangs Honestly the reason I was a little surprised Murdaugh took the stand is that the prosecution hasn't done a great job so it's IMHO a better reasonable doubt case if you don't hear from him directly, since he had to admit a bunch of times on the stand that he's a liar. His ego cannot be ignored. He thinks he is smarter than everyone else including his defense lawyers. It is so obvious that he is guilty and he did himself no favor by testifying. It also would not surprise me if he gets off. He and his sons have been getting by with crimes all of their lives.
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 27, 2023 20:49:33 GMT
Honestly the reason I was a little surprised Murdaugh took the stand is that the prosecution hasn't done a great job so it's IMHO a better reasonable doubt case if you don't hear from him directly, since he had to admit a bunch of times on the stand that he's a liar. His ego cannot be ignored. He thinks he is smarter than everyone else including his defense lawyers. It is so obvious that he is guilty and he did himself no favor by testifying. It also would not surprise me if he gets off. He and his sons have been getting by with crimes all of their lives. Yeah, I am sure you are right about his ego. I bet all of us have encountered people like him in life -- people who have never dealt with real consequences, and think they can talk their way out of anything. Curious to see if he will turn out (for these murders, anyway) to be right.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 27, 2023 22:02:44 GMT
The second shooter theory was finally introduced today. I think it will have some impact on the jury. That expert witness was very confident and likable.
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Post by quinlove on Feb 27, 2023 22:49:06 GMT
Although, there is not one doubt in my mind that he did it - I believe it will be a hung jury.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 28, 2023 1:02:46 GMT
Although, there is not one doubt in my mind that he did it - I believe it will be a hung jury. Same.
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Post by frenchie on Feb 28, 2023 1:44:12 GMT
Something that has really stood out to me is that if Alex is innocent, he'd be ranting and raving about finding who did it. In the police interviews, he seems to brush by the whole idea. If I were in his situation, and if I were innocent, I would be livid that they weren't even exploring that possibility. Maggie's sister said that really concerned her and her husband. She said he never even mentioned anyone else being out there.
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Post by uksue on Feb 28, 2023 14:04:13 GMT
Bringing John Marvin to the stand was obviously a deliberate attempt to normalise AM and convince the jury what a great family man he was- by the most palatable of the brothers. Having seen his he interfered with the kids in hospital after the boat accident however, I don't trust him at all- hated the way he Kept smiling at the jury. Apparently the prosecution has added a controversial witness for rebuttal? One of the YouTube videos I watched last night they said a 'professional' lady contacted LE to say AM would throttle her during s*x . Destroying any appearance of being a family man seems to be the aim.
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Post by CeeScraps on Feb 28, 2023 20:26:10 GMT
I have the trial on now. I don't know who is on the stand. It is a man for the defense. He is talking about the gun/shooting information. AM looks like he is going to puke. Poor boy...no sympathy from me.....
I watched the Netflix 3 episodes last night. Boy those kids were reckless.
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Post by edie3 on Mar 1, 2023 1:05:33 GMT
Boy those kids were reckless They were young and thought they were invincible. Not saying the drinking was okay, but they will carry the physical and mental scars forever.
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Post by ModChick on Mar 1, 2023 2:01:24 GMT
Weren't one of the son's also involved in a boating accident/young lady's death too? As answered above, it was Paul. The massive lawsuit coming out of that incident is believed to have been the proverbial straw that started Alex's whole house of cards to come tumbling down. Oh I thought that was all this was about, that boating accident. Now that I know it’s way more than that I’ll have to go find the info. I think I saw something on Netflix? Is that the same as what you are all watching?
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Post by pjaye on Mar 1, 2023 15:28:35 GMT
The Behaviour Panel did a new video analyzing his testimony: " I don't think that's a lie"...
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Post by uksue on Mar 2, 2023 20:18:05 GMT
Now OJ is opening on the trial.
Maybe OJ and Alec should Collab on a book: 'If we did it'.
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Post by quinlove on Mar 2, 2023 21:03:19 GMT
verdict watch
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