|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 21:57:19 GMT
Another lurker here to say I always enjoyed reading your posts! Your words always made me think. Made me question. Showed me another way to look at things. And you were always respectful. I admired that. I'm so very sorry for your situation. Karma has nothing to do with it. I've seen some extremely talented people struggle to find jobs. I don't know what industry you are in, but my company is looking and has offices across the country as well as work from home possibilities. The company is Aon. Look them up online and let me know if anything sparks your interest. And definitely look into dental schools for your tooth. Wishing all the best for you. Thank you. I will check out their website!
|
|
janice
Shy Member
Posts: 48
Jun 26, 2014 1:01:17 GMT
|
Post by janice on Jul 4, 2014 22:01:24 GMT
Not so much I was completely against them, but I feel like our government has let us down immensely in their management, and never felt that the central government was the best solution for them. I still feel we have a lot of improving to do, but I have gained a much needed perspective on the lives of those that are in the need for them, and their necessity. Karma doesn't necessarily have to be negative. Maybe this is just the universe taking the opportunity for you to understand "the other side". Once you are back on your feet, don't forget what you went through and don't be so quick to write off those who need assistance. Your OP took a lot a guts to write.
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:02:57 GMT
I am glad that you have shared this with us Jonda and I am so sorry for what you have been going through. What has happened to you could so easily happen to any of us, no matter how prepared we are. Have you thought about job searching in an area other than where you are currently living? If you find something elsewhere, maybe you could take that job until the economy improves where you are now, and then move back home. I am sure that you are already familiar with indeed.com, but if not, I know many people that have had luck using them to find a job. DH put in a resume on their and received an email two hours later and had a corporate management job with them two weeks later. Although we both posted a lot on the political threads, when I see your name, I associate it with the "conversation" that we had about our grandmothers. No matter how different we (as in everyone) think and feel about things, there is always something that we have in common, that connects us with one another. There is always so much more to a person that just their political beliefs. I don't believe that what happened to you is karma. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and we just have to use those experiences to learn and grow. We all go through a hard time at some point in our life, sometimes more than once. Please, keep posting here. You are among friends that will support you and encourage you. I will be adding you to my prayer list. Please check out some of the recommendations that were given earlier, for help getting your tooth fixed. Their is absolutely nothing wrong with seeking help when you are going through a hard time. You have worked hard, put in your dues, paid your taxes, some of which has gone to help others that have fallen on hard times. It is your turn. (((HUG))) and prayers for you. I remember that conversation. I have always appreciated reading your posts as well. I am using Indeed, monster, careerbuilder, I'm registered with several talent agencies. I'm even using craigslist. I have been applying cross country, so I'm willing to relocate. It's been a catch 22, I have the experience for a lot of the jobs, but at my previous company my position was located in a different department than it is with most companies, and that has been a stumbling block. I am definitely going to be calling around on Monday for a look into the dental schools.
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:04:59 GMT
Jonda, you are one of the reasons I stuck with NSBR. I wondered into a religious thread and really liked how you presented your arguments. Then found you on the political treads and even though we have very different perspectives, you always made me think a little harder. I am sorry times are tough and hopefully there will be an upswing soon. PB Awww. You are so sweet. Thank you!
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:06:01 GMT
...you and I are poles apart politically. However, I can't remember reading any threads where you were rude or dismissive. As far as I remember you were pretty much always respectful even while disagreeing vehemently with others. I remember people who are more liberal than you appreciating your point of view and enjoying your posts. Please count me among those Meg mentions. In fact, I recently mentioned you by name on the Hobby Lobby thread (along with some other names), as a conservative I enjoyed reading. Perhaps your color spectrum didn't include a lot of grey, but I don't remember you being dismissive or condescending. Like you, so many people are learning that "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps" is fraught. For some, the strap breaks; for others, nobody will even sell them a pair of boots with straps. Here's hoping there's a spiffy new pair of straps in your near future - easy to tug on, and of course, fashion forward :-) they do have to be fashionable for the Rhinestone cowboy
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:08:44 GMT
I do believe in karma, and I am truly humbled by your example, though I am very sorry this has happened to you. I don't think you deserved it in any way. I know why people who have made it believe success can happen for others who are willing to work for it, but I truly always wonder why those who have very little are so hateful to those who have even less. I work for the government as a public servant, and have for more than 30 years. Every time I hear someone wanting to dismantle government social programs, I am scared to death. Not only would it affect my livelihood, but the programs that could help me when I lose my livelihood will be gone as well. We cannot succeed by tearing each other down. I recently revisited the website for the school fire at Our Lady of Angels School in 1958. In the descriptions, they found children piled at the base of the windows, where smaller ones had been pushed down by larger children to try to get out of the windows. The smaller children could not reach the window sill. They all perished. If the larger children had perhaps helped the smaller ones out the window, then they could have all, or at least more of them, gotten out. Because in fact, the things that held the smaller ones back they had no control over. The larger ones weren't taller because they were better or worked harder. In the end, they all perished. As a society, we can lift up those who are held back, and in doing so, it helps all of us have a better chance at succeeding. You will find success again, you have everything going for you to do so. Someone will reach out a hand and pull you out. Then you can do the same for the person behind you. That's karma. Wow. I had never read the story of that school before....heart wrenching!
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:11:18 GMT
I'm sorry that you're in financial crisis. ITA w/checking out dental schools. You'll get great care and you need the dentist pronto. Though I don't know what you do for a living, I highly recommend temping until you find a job. It's summer and people are on vacation. It's a great time to temp. Register w/every agency you can. I don't think it's karma or the universe out to punish you. Rather, it's just bad, stinking, luck. I will think good thoughts that you find a great job quickly. Thank you. I'm absolutely willing to temp, but maybe I can get some advice, because I'm registered with several recruiting agencies, and haven't landed an assignment with them. Are temp agencies and recruiting agencies different?
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:14:02 GMT
I also made great contacts and got a permanent job through temping. My dad had a real estate company and auction company, and I started answering phones at 12. I had a ton of office experience before I even went to college. When I was looking for temps, I also was told that I was *over qualified*. I customized my resumes by the positions/ experience needed. I never lied, but they didn't need to know about ALL my life experiences if they weren't relevant. Nobody cared that I got an A in Art History when I was the operator at a warehouse. That's what I'm thinking about too. I have definitely customized for each area, sometimes for specific jobs. Not lying but featuring different aspects of my role that are more tailored to the position. I definitely think having a simplified version may help with the over qualified responses.
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:19:34 GMT
I was mostly a lurker on the old board and rarely opened political threads. I admire your humbleness and do not feel it is karma, it just is. I completely understand what you are going through, it is like a sucker punch to the psyche. I also had it made financially and professionally. Great status, house, cars, savings and a hefty retirement fund. Twenty-six years with the last fifteen in upper management, no children or family. Hot stuff, jet setting all over and looking down at the minions. All the perks, closing in on retirement then BAM, in 2007 my job was cut. Cleaned out all savings and retirement funds to try to keep the house and then ran out of funds, it was awful. Took almost three years to find a decent job. Did anything, sold things including my parents jewelry, applied at McDonalds, Costco, Target, just about every where but could not get work. I have advanced degrees and advanced age (late 50's) so that did not help. Finally got a part time job in 2010 out of my field. Loved it. Went full time about eight months later, not making as much as before but pretty close. I have never been so happy with a job and my life as I am now. Saved my house literately the day before it was to be sold in the foreclosure auction and am recovering financially. But my attitude is so different now, it is like I have been purged of that "I have money so I am better" subconscious banter. My values have changed so much and so has my spending. My life is truly more fun, has more depth and rewards. I wish you the best and hope you find a great job soon. Your story really gives me hope, and is a good example of how I had lived and thought. It wasn't who I had been, and I'm not sure when I changed, but I a learning the importance of things, and what really matters in life. The thing that pains me most is the potential of needing to leave behind one person in particular if I relocate, but I know that I need to do what is best to make sure I stay afloat. I definitely have a different outlook on life now.
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:21:52 GMT
Do you feel comfortable in this forum sharing your approximate geography and general line of business? Sometimes networking in creative places can give us unexpected opportunities. I live in the NYC metro area. I'm in training & development, marketing, editing/copywriting and management. Those are my primary fields of expertise.
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 22:23:28 GMT
I haven't read all the replies, but welcome to the new Pea place! Are you on LinkedIn? I know a lot of employers won't hire someone if they're not on LinkedIn. Oh yes. Most definitely. I've been fortunate enough to have a lot of recommendations and referrals, and have filled out everything I can on there. I actually add the link to my cover letters and it's in the header of my resume.
|
|
smginaz Suzy
Pearl Clutcher
Je suis desole.
Posts: 2,606
Jun 26, 2014 17:27:30 GMT
|
Post by smginaz Suzy on Jul 4, 2014 22:49:34 GMT
Is relo totally out of the equation for you?
|
|
eastcoastpea
Prolific Pea
Posts: 9,252
Jun 27, 2014 13:05:28 GMT
|
Post by eastcoastpea on Jul 4, 2014 22:59:07 GMT
Very nice post. I hope you find a great job soon! I'm hoping and praying for you! I agree with this post.
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 4, 2014 23:13:08 GMT
Is relo totally out of the equation for you? No, not at all. I've actually been applying to many positions around the country. I've had some initial interest, but haven't made it to round two. Relocating isn't my ideal for personal reasons, but at this time, livelihood has to come first and everything else will fall into place.
|
|
|
Post by I-95 on Jul 4, 2014 23:17:40 GMT
Wow. Jonda. I'm so sorry you went through all of that. Like others have said, that's not karma, and it's a situation that unfortunately a lot of Americans have had to deal with in the last few years. Loss of jobs, home foreclosures, depression, divorce, it's been awful for a lot of folks. I do remember a lot of your posts, and your stance on social safety nets, but I don't remember you being obnoxious about it...ever. I'm glad you're here, I hope we can support you and encourage you, and that things will turn around for you....then you can become a Liberal Welcome home!
|
|
my3freaks
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,206
Location: NH girl living in Colorado
Jun 26, 2014 4:10:56 GMT
|
Post by my3freaks on Jul 4, 2014 23:45:11 GMT
I stay far away from everything political on message boards, facebook, etc. I just wanted to say that your post took serious courage to post, and I will keep you in my thoughts. I hope you find the perfect job for you, as soon as possible.
Melanie
|
|
|
Post by txdancermom on Jul 5, 2014 0:46:58 GMT
Hugs and good thoughts coming your way. I have been through 2 layoffs in my working career - first time we knew it was coming they were shutting down, I was one of the last ones out the door - very sad.
second time, we had NO idea it was coming, and it was a shock. I got lucky and found a great job to start shortly after my layoff date. I know some who weren't quite as lucky and have seen them struggle.
I wish you all the best, stay positive and connect with people that are in the field you want to be part of.
|
|
ingrid
Full Member
Posts: 490
Jun 26, 2014 0:52:41 GMT
|
Post by ingrid on Jul 5, 2014 0:58:15 GMT
Oh, Jonda, I am so sad to hear about what you're going through. We never really interacted, but I loved reading your posts and agreed with a lot of the things you had to say. Even when I didn't see things the same way, I admired how articulate and respectful you were.
It's so nice to *see* you here and your post is incredibly gracious. I hope you know we're rooting for you and I hope you keep us posted. I'm in the coastal central California area but I will help you in any way I can if you ever need it.
Hang in there.
|
|
smginaz Suzy
Pearl Clutcher
Je suis desole.
Posts: 2,606
Jun 26, 2014 17:27:30 GMT
|
Post by smginaz Suzy on Jul 5, 2014 1:36:31 GMT
PM sent. I can at least get your resume in front of a recruiter.
|
|
|
Post by myboysnme on Jul 5, 2014 1:44:11 GMT
Not related to Jonda's post, but just in case someone who read my analogy is interested in the actual history I was drawing from, here is a link:
Our Lady of Angels Fire
|
|
|
Post by penny on Jul 5, 2014 1:49:25 GMT
You know, it's not karma. You didn't "deserve" this for your attitude. It's just the real world. And sometimes, bad things happen to people, even people who try to do everything right. You can plan and plan and plan and plan and still... sometimes the shit hits the fan. I'm sorry it was your fan this time.
This - this isn't karma, or anything coming back to bite you... You did your best, and from what you said, it sounds like you followed the advice we all hear about savings and planing... Sometimes something you could not have imagined or planned for happens... Like the other Pea said, "when you know better you do better"... When you know more you can do more... You've reminded us all to have compassion, and you're an amazing example of strength writing a post like that - you're doing more already... I'm sorry you're going through a rough time... Sending good thoughts your way... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Post by NanaKate on Jul 5, 2014 2:29:05 GMT
So sorry to hear what you've been dealing with. All the best to you, Jonda!
|
|
|
Post by JBeans on Jul 5, 2014 2:51:15 GMT
As someone said, it isn't karma. Bad things can happen to good people. I will send my good thoughts to you and even though Italy not seem like it now, think, "this too shall pass."
As for your posts, I've agreed and disagreed with things you've said, but always respected the dialog. Glad you are here, Jonda.
|
|
|
Post by lucyg on Jul 5, 2014 3:00:20 GMT
Not related to Jonda's post, but just in case someone who read my analogy is interested in the actual history I was drawing from, here is a link:
Our Lady of Angels FireThanks. I hadn't heard about this incident before. I'll check out the web site.
|
|
|
Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jul 5, 2014 3:05:57 GMT
Jonda,
I am in the same field as you and have struggled with finding a decent job since I moved back to the US four years ago.
I think I am going to be laid off on Tuesday. Thankfully this time I have a back up plan.
I have a friend who helped me with my resume recently and it has made a big difference.
I would be happy to pay it forward and help you.
Please PM me if you are interested. In full disclosure. I am a 100% liberal!
|
|
|
Post by leftturnonly on Jul 5, 2014 3:21:35 GMT
Jonda, I am in the same field as you and have struggled with finding a decent job since I moved back to the US four years ago. I think I am going to be laid off on Tuesday. Thankfully this time I have a back up plan. I have a friend who helped me with my resume recently and it has made a big difference. I would be happy to pay it forward and help you. Please PM me if you are interested. In full disclosure. I am a 100% liberal! As God is my witness, I love the peas!
|
|
|
Post by lindywholoveskids on Jul 5, 2014 3:44:52 GMT
Glad you are back Jonda, and thanks for being honest. Good luck on the job hunt!
|
|
|
Post by DinCA on Jul 5, 2014 6:39:05 GMT
After reading about what type of position you're looking for, I sent you a PM.
|
|
maurchclt
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,646
Jul 4, 2014 16:53:27 GMT
|
Post by maurchclt on Jul 5, 2014 14:19:06 GMT
Sending you good wishes in your job hunt, I wish I had something concrete to offer,but at this point, just a {{hug}}.You are not alone unfortunately. We all seem to have friends, relatives in the same situation.
|
|
|
Post by jonda1974 on Jul 5, 2014 14:28:19 GMT
Thanks everyone for the kind thoughts and advice. I owe some of you pm and will get back with you ASAP. I really appreciate the power of the peas
|
|