Gem Girl
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Post by Gem Girl on Jul 17, 2023 22:13:09 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 17, 2023 22:31:01 GMT
I think it’s odd that there hasn’t been any explanation at all. Her brother was on Tik tok saying that there wasn’t enough coverage and “we know why” when in fact there was a lot of coverage. But now they just say “she was found” with no additional info? I understand if they don’t want to give details for privacy reasons but even some kind of brief explanation would be helpful, especially with peoples fears being heightened these days. I don't think he was her actual brother. ArticleThat’s odd, too. |
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Post by katlady on Jul 17, 2023 22:36:02 GMT
Exactly someone less likely to be reported missing. That said I know women snd children are often followed in stores. I had a weird situation where a couple of men walked in the store snd they ended up in my isle way too often to be random. It was strange. They split up snd one would walk down the aisle I was in then in another isle the other one would. This happened more than just a couple of times. I didn’t see them when I was getting ready to leave the store but saw them too often snd they seemed to be watching me but they split up they also didn’t have a cart nor did they pick up items. It was strange. I know it happens as a ring was caught in our area. I can’t imagine them wanting me as a short overweight middle aged woman at the time this happened but it was creepy. Our Sheriff has put out warnings for young women and children. I can’t hurt to be cautious. There was a ring that was taken down within the last few years here I think it was 16 people. How scary! I am thinking that maybe they were looking to rob you. Maybe checking out your jewelry, waiting until you left your purse in the cart, etc. I am always watching to make sure I am not being followed. It is not because of human trafficking, but because of robbery. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 17, 2023 22:41:23 GMT
Exactly someone less likely to be reported missing. That said I know women snd children are often followed in stores. I had a weird situation where a couple of men walked in the store snd they ended up in my isle way too often to be random. It was strange. They split up snd one would walk down the aisle I was in then in another isle the other one would. This happened more than just a couple of times. I didn’t see them when I was getting ready to leave the store but saw them too often snd they seemed to be watching me but they split up they also didn’t have a cart nor did they pick up items. It was strange. I know it happens as a ring was caught in our area. I can’t imagine them wanting me as a short overweight middle aged woman at the time this happened but it was creepy. Our Sheriff has put out warnings for young women and children. I can’t hurt to be cautious. There was a ring that was taken down within the last few years here I think it was 16 people. How scary! I am thinking that maybe they were looking to rob you. Maybe checking out your jewelry, waiting until you left your purse in the cart, etc. I am always watching to make sure I am not being followed. It is not because of human trafficking, but because of robbery. No idea but I don’t wear jewelry and I certainly didn’t look like I had a lot of money. It was just a normal early morning Walmart run. So jeggings and cheap t-shirt. That could have been though. Thinking maybe I would turn my back on my purse. That does happen a lot and I think it was early morning so not a lot of customers. I really need to switch to a crossbody bag for shopping. |
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garcia5050
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Post by garcia5050 on Jul 18, 2023 0:02:40 GMT
I am very curious as to what happened but I’ll wait until more info is released. Based on the stuff that I hear happening in Los Angeles, I do think it could all be legit. What is going on in LA? I live an hour away and do not know what you are referring to. I live 15 miles southeast of downtown in a 'decent' neighborhood (not bad/not great). My daughter just graduated high school and there were a lot of things that happened to her/her friends that really cause me to worry. She had a friend who got followed by men in cars more than once - so they all had to walk her home and walk back to school in groups. One girl was almost abducted across the street from the high school her junior year. I work in downtown and saw a homeless man try to pull a little girl into his tent. I'm on the Neighborhood app and the crime watch app and there was something recent in Long Beach/Lynwood about an attempted abduction just a couple of weeks ago. Luckily, it's the kind of neighborhood where the kids always have eyes on them. Last year, on Super Bowl Sunday, my next door-neighbor's niece got boxed into my neighbor's driveway by 2 cars - and one guy was pounding on her window until her aunt/uncle came out to save her. The 2 cars then tried to follow the niece when she left (but her aunt/uncle were following and instead boxes in the other car). The police had zero interest in following up these - because no crime is committed. The local police said that obviously, the guy was just trying to pick up on the niece. Sure. In the neighbor situation, my DH was able to look up the license plate of one of the cars and found out that the car was rented with stolen credit card info. So they were definitely up to no good. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 18, 2023 18:56:50 GMT
What is going on in LA? I live an hour away and do not know what you are referring to. I live 15 miles southeast of downtown in a 'decent' neighborhood (not bad/not great). My daughter just graduated high school and there were a lot of things that happened to her/her friends that really cause me to worry. She had a friend who got followed by men in cars more than once - so they all had to walk her home and walk back to school in groups. One girl was almost abducted across the street from the high school her junior year. I work in downtown and saw a homeless man try to pull a little girl into his tent. I'm on the Neighborhood app and the crime watch app and there was something recent in Long Beach/Lynwood about an attempted abduction just a couple of weeks ago. Luckily, it's the kind of neighborhood where the kids always have eyes on them. Last year, on Super Bowl Sunday, my next door-neighbor's niece got boxed into my neighbor's driveway by 2 cars - and one guy was pounding on her window until her aunt/uncle came out to save her. The 2 cars then tried to follow the niece when she left (but her aunt/uncle were following and instead boxes in the other car). The police had zero interest in following up these - because no crime is committed. The local police said that obviously, the guy was just trying to pick up on the niece. Sure. In the neighbor situation, my DH was able to look up the license plate of one of the cars and found out that the car was rented with stolen credit card info. So they were definitely up to no good. For some reason, there’s a lot of ‘trafficking’ surrounding the Super Bowl each year. People with money and no morals converging on one location I guess? In NJ it spurred an entire new law for the hotel industry after the 2014 Super Bowl. The NFL doesn’t address it in any way. I’m not at all saying they are responsible but that it’s not addressed as an issue adjacent to the Super Bowl that needs to be addressed and they have a huge platform they could use to help address it but they don’t. |
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 19, 2023 14:57:56 GMT
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River
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Post by River on Jul 19, 2023 15:17:23 GMT
I've been following this since it's not far from where I live. The whole thing is unnerving to me. My personal feeling about it is that it's legit and she was abducted and somehow escaped. I don't think it was a toddler she saw on the road because no one else saw anything of the sort, but do believe she thought that's what she saw in the blink of an eye and then turned around to go make sure. Anxious to find out what really happened though. The specualtions are wild and so wide spread it just make's everything confusing.
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Post by mom on Jul 19, 2023 15:29:17 GMT
So she is seen on cameras just walking to her home? All alone? Then she was unresponsive when they called 911 to report her back, but she was talking by the time LE got there? I am having a really hard time believing all of this. From the article: On Tuesday, police said they obtained surveillance video from Russell’s neighborhood that shows her walking down the sidewalk alone before she got to her home. Fire department radio traffic revealed that medics were dispatched to her home on a call about an “unresponsive but breathing” person, police said, adding that was the term used by the dispatcher relaying information from what a 911 caller told the emergency communicator. “When first responders arrived on scene, they found Ms. Russell conscious and speaking and she was transported in that condition,” police said. “She was later treated and released from a local hospital.” |
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 19, 2023 15:36:10 GMT
It is all very confusing. The family's remarks seem to support a terrible ordeal. The inconsistencies and conflicting "evidence" or lack of initially sounded like a possible mental health issue to me. But regardless, I hope she is now safe and healing, and that any risk to the community, a child, etc is neutralized. It will be interesting to see what the presser reveals.
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Post by dnkmmw on Jul 19, 2023 15:48:13 GMT
TMZ had a story with a statement from the Hoover PD. According to that statement, prior to her disappearance, she had gone to a Target and bought snack food items, which were not found in the vehicle or with her cell phone and wig.
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Jul 19, 2023 16:28:27 GMT
mom I read something at some point since she was found, that responsive can mean she is alert, awake, etc but just not talking to anyone. So if she didn't want to answer any questions to family, that would be coded in a report as unresponsive.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Jul 19, 2023 18:15:19 GMT
TMZ had a story with a statement from the Hoover PD. According to that statement, prior to her disappearance, she had gone to a Target and bought snack food items, which were not found in the vehicle or with her cell phone and wig. This leans into the rumors going around and it does give me pause.
Whatever the situation, I hate it for her family, and her. She's being ripped apart online.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 19, 2023 18:32:31 GMT
At this point, I think it was some kind of mental health crisis. I feel bad that she is being ripped apart. I hope that she gets the help that she needs and finds peace in her life.
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 19, 2023 19:32:54 GMT
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Post by katlady on Jul 19, 2023 19:35:32 GMT
At this point, I think it was some kind of mental health crisis. I feel bad that she is being ripped apart. I hope that she gets the help that she needs and finds peace in her life. Unfortunately, rumors will continue to float around because no information is coming out and people are nosey. I too hope she gets the help she needs. |
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 19, 2023 19:38:09 GMT
That's quite a purple suit!
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Post by mom on Jul 19, 2023 19:43:44 GMT
mom I read something at some point since she was found, that responsive can mean she is alert, awake, etc but just not talking to anyone. So if she didn't want to answer any questions to family, that would be coded in a report as unresponsive. I guess that makes more sense. |
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 19, 2023 19:49:39 GMT
Sadly, it sounds like she may have staged the whole thing.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 19, 2023 20:40:47 GMT
Ugh that's so upsetting to hear! Black, brown and indigenous women go missing with no publicity. It upsets me to think that her made up story hurts marginalized women who may get less press because of this fabricated story.
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Post by disneypal on Jul 19, 2023 20:57:19 GMT
Sadly, it sounds like she may have staged the whole thing. Sadly, it really does. How odd that she stole items from her place of employment (bathrobe, toilet paper, etc)
She bought some snacks at Target but they were not in or near her car (They seem to imply that she may have taken these snack with her)
She followed the supposed toddler for 600 yards in her car while talking to 911, that is 6 football fields, and it is unlikely a toddler would walk that far during the time of the call, especially not be seen by anyone else or wander into the road.
Her internet searches the days before and the day of her going missing is very telling... * Do you have to pay for an Amber alert? * How to take money from a register without being caught * Birmingham Bus Station * One way ticket from Birmingham to Nashville w/departure date of Jul 13 (the day she went missing)
* A search for the movie Taken * Maximum age of an Amber alert * Other searches that indicate her mindset (but were not released to the media)
They say there is no threat to the public's safety related to this case, they've asked to interview her a 2nd time but have been denied.
Also, she said when she escaped, she wandered through some woods and the woods brought her out near her home.
Not sure why she did it, but it does seem like she planned it, that there never was a toddler or an abductor.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 19, 2023 21:14:41 GMT
Ugh that's so upsetting to hear! Black, brown and indigenous women go missing with no publicity. It upsets me to think that her made up story hurts marginalized women who may get less press because of this fabricated story. that's my concern about this story. if it was a hoax, it could affect how the public will perceive or respond to the next human trafficking case, the next female abduction case, the next black female abduction case. stories of a similar nature that have turned out to be hoaxes have definitely clouded my perception. i hate that the possibility of a hoax will pop into my mind almost immediately but when they do turn out to be hoaxes, it just further reinforces my skepticism. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 19, 2023 21:46:22 GMT
I've been following this since it's not far from where I live. The whole thing is unnerving to me. My personal feeling about it is that it's legit and she was abducted and somehow escaped. I don't think it was a toddler she saw on the road because no one else saw anything of the sort, but do believe she thought that's what she saw in the blink of an eye and then turned around to go make sure. Anxious to find out what really happened though. The specualtions are wild and so wide spread it just make's everything confusing. Are authorities saying that people should be watching for suspicious activity? Or a description of a suspect? |
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Post by katlady on Jul 19, 2023 21:55:01 GMT
Are authorities saying that people should be watching for suspicious activity? Or a description of a suspect? The police at the press conference said that they have not uncovered anything to suggest that there is a threat to the general public in regards to this case. |
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Post by mom on Jul 19, 2023 22:51:16 GMT
I've been following this since it's not far from where I live. The whole thing is unnerving to me. My personal feeling about it is that it's legit and she was abducted and somehow escaped. I don't think it was a toddler she saw on the road because no one else saw anything of the sort, but do believe she thought that's what she saw in the blink of an eye and then turned around to go make sure. Anxious to find out what really happened though. The specualtions are wild and so wide spread it just make's everything confusing. Are authorities saying that people should be watching for suspicious activity? Or a description of a suspect? Russell did not remember much about the man but claimed he had orange hair with a big bald spot. Police said Russell told them she then escaped the 18-wheeler, but was caught again and put into a car. The next day, she was fed crackers by a woman and put into another car which she escaped again in the west Hoover area. From the linked news article. |
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Post by mom on Jul 19, 2023 22:52:52 GMT
I am sorry --- but it is looking like she made this whole thing up. And if she did, she should be held legally and financially responsible for any wasted resources. Things like this make me so mad. And now her family is not allowing LE access to her.
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Post by KikiPea on Jul 20, 2023 0:24:53 GMT
Four years ago my nephew did an internship with the FBI out of Buffalo New York. Three counties over from us, they busted a huge sex trafficking ring. Most of the women were migrants brought from other countries, so this does go on, regardless of who made the movie. We need to open our eyes. Trafficking humans absolutely happens and needs addressed better. However, it’s not kidnapping of random white girls I. Walmart or target parking lots. It’s primarily women and girls who are already marginalized and at risk and it’s someone they know on at least some level. This may be a larger percentage, but it 100% happens to random white girls…my pastor’s granddaughter was taken from a Mavericks game, and taken to a hotel and used for sex. This happened just last year. She was located in Oklahoma. We also had a trafficking ring busted up not too far from where I live in just the last 2-3 years. |
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Post by Zee on Jul 20, 2023 1:12:43 GMT
Trafficking humans absolutely happens and needs addressed better. However, it’s not kidnapping of random white girls I. Walmart or target parking lots. It’s primarily women and girls who are already marginalized and at risk and it’s someone they know on at least some level. This may be a larger percentage, but it 100% happens to random white girls…my pastor’s granddaughter was taken from a Mavericks game, and taken to a hotel and used for sex. This happened just last year. She was located in Oklahoma. We also had a trafficking ring busted up not too far from where I live in just the last 2-3 years. I have lots of questions...was she so sheltered she had no idea she should leave the game with a 33 year old strange man and go to a parking deck where she's raped but seen walking back out and didn't alert anyone, then is found days later walking down the street with a group of people (so, walking , not drugged in a bed like on TV) Dallas Police didn't immediately investigate a teen going missing after leaving a seat to use the bathroom? Why not? Did they know something we don't? The fact that the pastor is the source of this story immediately puts me on high alert--and they're going to keep her identity secret but blast theirs plus every detail? IDK. It seems like religious leaders are always the most highly invested in "sex crimes" and they have all these incidents of white teen girl sex slavery without a lot of details. Also, FORMER vice squad? Just spends his day combing through prostitution ads, and has to stay hidden on camera? |
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River
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Post by River on Jul 20, 2023 15:49:48 GMT
I am sorry --- but it is looking like she made this whole thing up. And if she did, she should be held legally and financially responsible for any wasted resources. Things like this make me so mad. And now her family is not allowing LE access to her. Dang it all to hell! I really thought something had truly happened to her but now it's pretty darn clear it was all an act. If so, I agree with you. She needs to be held legally and financially responsible. My question is though, for that to happen, wouldn't it have to be proven somehow or her give a complete confession? |
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Post by mom on Jul 20, 2023 18:50:46 GMT
I am sorry --- but it is looking like she made this whole thing up. And if she did, she should be held legally and financially responsible for any wasted resources. Things like this make me so mad. And now her family is not allowing LE access to her. Dang it all to hell! I really thought something had truly happened to her but now it's pretty darn clear it was all an act. If so, I agree with you. She needs to be held legally and financially responsible. My question is though, for that to happen, wouldn't it have to be proven somehow or her give a complete confession? Honestly, I am not sure? She could be charged for a false report of the missing kid and lying to police though, I'd think. Her 911 call was the event that started all of this. |
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