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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:04:26 GMT
Lindsey Graham testified but escaped indictment www.npr.org/live-updates/trump-news-indictment-georgia-election Sen. Lindsey Graham (his efforts to halt his testimony were argued all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, which refused to block a lower court's ruling that Graham was protected from questioning about activities related to being a lawmaker but could answer for other statements and actions.)
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:07:36 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:13:38 GMT
Sorry for all of the posts and tweets, but there are a lot of details to the indictment
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:16:00 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:17:59 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:21:24 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:23:38 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:26:08 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:29:09 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 5:30:58 GMT
This might be my favorite. And last one for tonight. Apologies again for all of the posts and tweets.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 15, 2023 5:42:02 GMT
ROFL! Girl, he needs a spreadsheet just to know which lawyers are handling which cases.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 15, 2023 6:30:16 GMT
Did Lindsey Graham flip? Or Unindicted co-conspirator? There is a bunch of the 'fake electors' who received immunity and willing to testify. Thanks for all aj2hallI knew I wasn't going to last the night... I don't even know when I fell asleep! A text woke me up..
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 15, 2023 10:38:16 GMT
aj2hall Thank you for all your posts.
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Post by lisae on Aug 15, 2023 11:49:42 GMT
So who will be the first to flip on Trump? Trying them all together assures that someone in that bunch is going to try to save themself because Trump will turn on all of them.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 15, 2023 12:16:52 GMT
Thank you aj2hall for the posts and information. It is really appreciated.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 15, 2023 12:21:41 GMT
So who will be the first to flip on Trump? Trying them all together assures that someone in that bunch is going to try to save themself because Trump will turn on all of them. I don't think anyone charged will flip, they are all too far gone up Trump's ass. It is a sickness with these people. It is like Stockholm Syndrome. I would have loved to have seen anyone of their reactions last night though. I think that they are all just as delusional as Trump and never believed they would be charged and somehow their orange knight would save them.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 15, 2023 12:24:17 GMT
Incredibly glad for Georgia taking the safety of their employees seriously. It is also unreal that everyone involved has to worry about what could happen to them. I really do fear another January 6th could and will happen.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 13:32:56 GMT
trump just announced that next Monday at 11 am in a major news conference in NJ he will release a “large, complex, detailed but irrefutable REPORT on Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia”
And “based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE report all charges should be dropped against him and others - there will be a complete EXONERATION!”
How do we get rid of this guy?
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 15, 2023 13:52:32 GMT
Sorry for all of the posts and tweets, but there are a lot of details to the indictment Hopefully we find out if they have yet to be indicted or if they cooperated and gave really good information that then allowed them to be saved from any jail time.
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Post by Just T on Aug 15, 2023 13:54:37 GMT
trump just announced that next Monday at 11 am in a major news conference in NJ he will release a “large, complex, detailed but irrefutable REPORT on Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia” And “based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE report all charges should be dropped against him and others - there will be a complete EXONERATION!” How do we get rid of this guy? Good grief. He has been saying this in multiple ways for almost 3 years. What a blowhard. That people still support this buffoon will always and forever boggle my mind.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Aug 15, 2023 14:00:49 GMT
So who will be the first to flip on Trump? Trying them all together assures that someone in that bunch is going to try to save themself because Trump will turn on all of them. I don't think anyone charged will flip, they are all too far gone up Trump's ass. It is a sickness with these people. It is like Stockholm Syndrome. I would have loved to have seen anyone of their reactions last night though. I think that they are all just as delusional as Trump and never believed they would be charged and somehow their orange knight would save them. Mark Meadows supposedly flipped in the Federal case. Now that he's named in the Georgia case, he'll either flip here too OR really screw up the Jack Smith case and stop cooperating because what he says in the Federal case can and will be used against him in the Georgia case. Met bet is that the weasel will flip in the Georgia case too. I also think Jenna Ellis will flip too.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Aug 15, 2023 14:03:22 GMT
trump just announced that next Monday at 11 am in a major news conference in NJ he will release a “large, complex, detailed but irrefutable REPORT on Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia” And “based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE report all charges should be dropped against him and others - there will be a complete EXONERATION!” How do we get rid of this guy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it will look like that heathcare plan that is coming in 2 weeks. ETA: The trump post actually says this report "is almost complete". So yeah, it's just like the healthcare plan.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 14:05:18 GMT
This is a really good summary heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-14-2023And finally, third: tonight, just before midnight, the state of Georgia indicted former president Donald J. Trump and 18 others for multiple crimes committed in that state as they tried to steal the 2020 presidential election. A special-purpose grand jury made up of citizens in Fulton County, Georgia, examined evidence and heard from 75 witnesses in the case, and issued a report in January that recommended indictments. A regular grand jury took the final report of the special grand jury into consideration and brought an indictment. “Trump and the other Defendants charged in this Indictment refused to accept that Trump lost” the 2020 presidential election, the indictment reads, ”and they knowingly and willfully joined a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome of the election in favor of Trump. That conspiracy contained a common plan and purpose to commit two or more acts of racketeering activity in Fulton County, Georgia, elsewhere in the State of Georgia, and in other states.” The indictment alleges that those involved in the “criminal enterprise” “constituted a criminal organization whose members and associates engaged in various related criminal activities including, but not limited to, false statements and writings, impersonating a public officer, forgery, filing false documents, influencing witnesses, computer theft, computer trespass, computer invasion of privacy, conspiracy to defraud the state, acts involving theft, and perjury.” That is, while claiming to investigate voter fraud, they allegedly committed election fraud. And that effort has run them afoul of a number of laws, including the Georgia Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, which is broader than federal anti-racketeering laws and carries a mandatory five-year prison term. Those charged fall into several categories. Trump allies who operated out of the White House include lawyers Rudy Giuliani (who recently conceded in a lawsuit that he lied about Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss having stuffed ballot boxes), John Eastman, Kenneth Chesebro, Jeffrey Clark, Jenna Ellis, and Trump’s White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. Those operating in Georgia to push the scheme to manufacture a false slate of Trump electors to challenge the real Biden electors include lawyer Ray Stallings Smith III, who tried to sell the idea to legislators; Philadelphia political operative Michael Roman; former Georgia Republican chair David James Shafer, who led the fake elector meeting; and Shawn Micah Tresher Still, currently a state senator, who was the secretary of the fake elector meeting. Those trying to intimidate election worker and witness Ruby Freeman include Stephen Cliffgard Lee, a police chaplain from Illinois; Harrison William Prescott Floyd, executive director of Black Voices for Trump; and Trevian C. Kutti, a publicist for the rapper formerly known as Kanye West. Those allegedly stealing data from the voting systems in Coffee County, Georgia, and spreading it across the country in an attempt to find weaknesses in the systems that might have opened the way to fraud include Trump lawyer Sidney Powell; former Coffee County Republican Committee chair Cathleen Alston Latham; businessman Scott Graham Hall; and Coffee County election director Misty Hampton, also known as Emily Misty Hayes. The document also referred to 30 unindicted co-conspirators. Trump has called the case against him in Georgia partisan and launched a series of attacks on Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. Today, Willis told a reporter who asked about Trump’s accusations of partisanship: “I make decisions in this office based on the facts and the law. The law is completely nonpartisan. That's how decisions are made in every case. To date, this office has indicted, since I’ve been sitting as the district attorney, over 12,000 cases. This is the eleventh RICO indictment. We follow the same process. We look at the facts. We look at the law. And we bring charges." The defendants have until noon on August 25 to surrender themselves to authorities.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 15, 2023 14:06:29 GMT
If Meadows doesn't flip in Georgia and he has for Smith in sworn testimony.. he will have committed perjury in one of the cases..
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 15, 2023 14:06:53 GMT
trump just announced that next Monday at 11 am in a major news conference in NJ he will release a “large, complex, detailed but irrefutable REPORT on Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia” And “based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE report all charges should be dropped against him and others - there will be a complete EXONERATION!” How do we get rid of this guy? Good grief. He has been saying this in multiple ways for almost 3 years. What a blowhard. That people still support this buffoon will always and forever boggle my mind. Let us hope no news stations broadcast it.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 14:26:53 GMT
From The Recount….
”Trump attorney Alina Habba: “We do not agree that [the Georgia indictment] is a perilous threat, because we actually have inside information.”
Fox News' Steve Doocy: “What inside information?”
Habba: “I'm not gonna breach, right? I have confidentiality and I have ethics.”
“I have confidentiality and I have ethics.” 😂
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 14:30:50 GMT
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 15, 2023 14:38:25 GMT
I don't think anyone charged will flip, they are all too far gone up Trump's ass. It is a sickness with these people. It is like Stockholm Syndrome. I would have loved to have seen anyone of their reactions last night though. I think that they are all just as delusional as Trump and never believed they would be charged and somehow their orange knight would save them. Mark Meadows supposedly flipped in the Federal case. Now that he's named in the Georgia case, he'll either flip here too OR really screw up the Jack Smith case and stop cooperating because what he says in the Federal case can and will be used against him in the Georgia case. Met bet is that the weasel will flip in the Georgia case too. I also think Jenna Ellis will flip too. I didn't realize the MM had already flipped. That is good news, I guess. I just want to see Trump and his accomplices held accountable.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 14:38:29 GMT
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 15, 2023 14:39:39 GMT
I cannot see it. I need to just break down and subscribe though.
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