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Post by onelasttime on Aug 13, 2023 15:58:25 GMT
The question is will they be able to directly connect trump to this? Or will these fools fall on their swords to protect trump? Because there is no way trump didn’t know what was happening. From CNN. link“ Exclusive: Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump’s team is behind voting system breach”
From the article… “Atlanta-area prosecutors investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia are in possession of text messages and emails directly connecting members of Donald Trump’s legal team to the early January 2021 voting system breach in Coffee County, sources tell CNN. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is expected to seek charges against more than a dozen individuals when her team presents its case before a grand jury next week. Several individuals involved in the voting systems breach in Coffee County are among those who may face charges in the sprawling criminal probe. Investigators in the Georgia criminal probe have long suspected the breach was not an organic effort sprung from sympathetic Trump supporters in rural and heavily Republican Coffee County – a county Trump won by nearly 70% of the vote. They have gathered evidence indicating it was a top-down push by Trump’s team to access sensitive voting software, according to people familiar with the situation. Trump allies attempted to access voting systems after the 2020 election as part of the broader push to produce evidence that could back up the former president’s baseless claims of widespread fraud. While Trump’s January 2021 call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and effort to put forward fake slates of electors have long been considered key pillars of Willis’ criminal probe, the voting system breach in Coffee County quietly emerged as an area of focus for investigators roughly one year ago. Since then, new evidence has slowly been uncovered about the role of Trump’s attorneys, the operatives they hired and how the breach, as well as others like it in other key states, factored into broader plans for overturning the election.” |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 13, 2023 20:48:56 GMT
Do you mean was Trump aware of the plan in Coffee County? He was.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 13, 2023 20:53:35 GMT
Georgia RICO conviction = MANDATORY minimum FIVE YEARS!!
Go, Fani!!
And there is no pardon until the full sentence is served!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 13, 2023 21:31:44 GMT
This former former federal prosecutor, Brandon Fox, says Willis should not proceed instead turn it over to Smith. Troubling to me though... I thought a state case would be good..
He says that the Georgia case will complicate the DOJ cases
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 13, 2023 21:54:54 GMT
Nope. Granted that’s only his opinion, but I’m not swayed by it at all.
A crime was committed against the people of Georgia and Willis is duty-bound to prosecute crimes in her jurisdiction. Further, Georgia has a broad racketeering statute.
Most importantly, if we bomb in DC for whatever reason, GA is what might give us some measure of justice for the election crimes Trump committed. I’m looking at it like a “belt-and-suspenders” redundancy. If the “belt” fails, we’ve still got the “suspenders.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 13, 2023 23:14:35 GMT
Norm Eisen says it best!
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Post by pilcas on Aug 14, 2023 0:54:43 GMT
I’m ready for convictions.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 14, 2023 18:01:46 GMT
From Reuters…. link” Georgia court website briefly publishes, removes document about potential Trump charges”“Aug 14 (Reuters) - The Fulton County, Georgia, court's website briefly posted a document on Monday listing several criminal charges against former U.S. President Donald Trump that appeared related to his attempts to overturn his 2020 election defeat in the state, before taking the document down without explanation. The Fulton County District Attorney's office said in a statement that no charges had been filed against Trump. The document was dated Aug. 14 and named Trump, citing the case as "open," but is no longer available on the court's website. Reuters was not immediately able to determine why the item was posted or removed. "The Reuters report that those charges were filed is inaccurate. Beyond that we cannot comment," a spokesperson for the District Attorney's office said. A Georgia prosecutor, District Attorney Fani Willis, has been probing whether Trump and his allies illegally sought to overturn the state's 2020 election results and has been expected to seek an indictment from a grand jury this week. If Trump is charged in Georgia, it would mark his fourth indictment in less than five months, and the second to arise from his efforts to overturn his loss to Joe Biden's in the 2020 presidential election. The Fulton County clerk's office could not immediately be reached for comment on the docket report. Representatives for the county and Trump also could not be immediately reached for comment. The two-page document cites the "Violation Of The Georgia Rico (Racketeer Influenced And Corrupt Organizations) Act," "Solicitation Of Violation Of Oath By Public Officer," "Conspiracy To Commit False Statements and Writings" and "Conspiracy To Commit Forgery in the First Degree," among other charges listed.“ |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 14, 2023 18:45:33 GMT
Look at this…. Is indictment 4.0 coming soon? From Tamar Hallerman… ”Breaking: Former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan and independent journalist George Chidi were both supposed to testify on Tuesday, but are now expected to meet on Monday with grand jurors at the Fulton County Courthouse” from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. link“ The Fulton County grand jury proceedings into whether former President Donald Trump and his allies broke Georgia law could wrap up sooner than expected. Former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan and independent journalist George Chidi were both supposed to testify on Tuesday, but are now expected to meet on Monday with grand jurors at the Fulton County Courthouse.” |
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Post by littlemama on Aug 14, 2023 21:18:31 GMT
Look at this…. Is indictment 4.0 coming soon? From Tamar Hallerman… ”Breaking: Former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan and independent journalist George Chidi were both supposed to testify on Tuesday, but are now expected to meet on Monday with grand jurors at the Fulton County Courthouse” from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. link“ The Fulton County grand jury proceedings into whether former President Donald Trump and his allies broke Georgia law could wrap up sooner than expected. Former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan and independent journalist George Chidi were both supposed to testify on Tuesday, but are now expected to meet on Monday with grand jurors at the Fulton County Courthouse.” Did you see the leaked charges? 13 or 14 felonies. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 14, 2023 22:00:50 GMT
Judge told reporters to go get dinner and return. They're keeping the doors open past 5pm for this.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2023 23:28:30 GMT
www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/14/us/trump-indictment-georgia-electionChé Alexander, the clerk of the Fulton County Superior Court, said that if grand jurors were to vote to approve indictments tonight, she would stay as late as needed in order to process them and make them publicly available. “I’m not going to leave until it’s done,” she said.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2023 23:31:47 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/us/trump-georgia-election-results.htmlPerhaps above all, the Georgia case assembled by Ms. Willis offers a vivid reminder of the extraordinary lengths taken by Mr. Trump and his allies to exert pressure on local officials to overturn the election — an up-close portrait of American democracy tested to its limits.
There was the infamous call that the former president made to Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, during which Mr. Trump said he wanted to “find” nearly 12,000 votes, or enough to overturn his narrow loss there. Mr. Trump and his allies harassed and defamed rank-and-file election workers with false accusations of ballot stuffing, leading to so many vicious threats against one of them that she was forced into hiding.
They deployed fake local electors to certify that Mr. Trump had won the election. Within even the Justice Department, an obscure government lawyer secretly plotted with the president to help him overturn the state’s results.
And on the same day that Mr. Biden’s victory was certified by Congress, Trump allies infiltrated a rural Georgia county’s election office, copying sensitive software used in voting machines throughout the state in their fruitless hunt for ballot fraud.
The Georgia investigation has encompassed an array of high-profile allies, from the lawyers Rudolph W. Giuliani, Kenneth Chesebro and John Eastman, to Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff at the time of the election. But it has also scrutinized lesser-known players like a Georgia bail bondsman and a publicist who once worked for Kanye West.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 0:11:15 GMT
Katie Phang….
”UPDATE: The grand jury is now voting.”
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 0:41:25 GMT
Acyn from Fox News..
”Graham:.This should be decided at the ballot box and not in a bunch of liberal jurisdictions trying to put the man in jail. They’re weaponizing the law”
So let me get this straight. If you are just a guy or gal and are charged with committing a crime, have your day in court and are found guilty and spend time in jail that’s ok.
But if you’re a politician running say for president and are charged with a crime or crimes instead of having your day in court to determine if you are innocent or guilty we are just suppose to let the voters decide if you are guilty or not and decide the punishment. Punishment being if they are elected or not.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 0:44:10 GMT
David Frum….
“45 men have served as president. Some great leaders, others mediocre. Only one sought by violence to overthrow the Constitution. That one now stands multiply indicted for his crimes. Some flinch from this truth. Others deny it. It's a lot to face. But anything else is a lie.
With his grease paint and compulsive lying, Trump in many ways cuts a comical figure. But he really was president, and he really did try to mount a coup. His name belongs with Benedict Arnold, Tokyo Rose, Julius Rosenberg in the annals of shame. He's a joke. His crime was not.”
Can’t say I disagree….
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 15, 2023 0:58:00 GMT
www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/14/us/trump-indictment-georgia-electionChé Alexander, the clerk of the Fulton County Superior Court, said that if grand jurors were to vote to approve indictments tonight, she would stay as late as needed in order to process them and make them publicly available. “I’m not going to leave until it’s done,” she said. Judge is seated, clerk is seated. Hot damn. I was gonna watch Netflix, but I can’t walk away now because of FOMO. McBurney—lol, he’s the judge I told you gave Trump the judicial equivalent of the Southern “bless your heart.” AJ, do you remember what Giuliani, Trump and their MAGA cretins did to the two black poll workers in Georgia who were just doing their jobs—Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss? I hope Fani’s upcoming indictment has Giuliani’s name plastered all over it along with Trump’s. And if they’re found guilty, I’ll print that guilty verdict, frame it and hang it on my wall. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 0:59:21 GMT
MSNBC…
”NOW:
Indictment unsealing process is underway in Georgia courtroom
Cameras are on inside @msnbc”
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 1:02:48 GMT
I have MSNBC on and the Grand Jury has returned 10 indictments.
Wow.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 15, 2023 1:03:25 GMT
10 indictments
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 15, 2023 1:08:52 GMT
Where's the indictment, y'all?
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 1:15:53 GMT
www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/14/us/trump-indictment-georgia-electionGeorgia Trump Investigation
Grand Jury Delivers Indictment in Election Interference Case
It was not yet known who would face charges. Prosecutors spent the day laying out their investigation of efforts to keep President Donald J. Trump in power by overturning Georgia’s results in the 2020 election.
The clerk of the Fulton County Superior Court has returned to her office with the documents. She said that “worst case,” it’ll be three hours until copies are made public.
Papers from a grand jury have been delivered to the desk of Judge Robert C.I. McBurney of Fulton County Superior Court by an entourage of court officials and sheriff’s deputies. While the judge, as expected, did not indicate the nature of the papers, they are believed to include an indictment related to the investigation of election interference by Donald J. Trump and his allies in Georgia.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 1:16:43 GMT
www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/14/trump-georgia-election-investigation/Judge Robert McBurney has handed the indictment to the Fulton County court clerk, who is being escorted by a large group of law enforcement. We are expecting the document to be unsealed momentarily.
At around 9 p.m., Judge Robert McBurney was handed the documents. He riffled through them, appeared to sign some pages, and handed the package back to a court clerk.
“Good luck the rest of the evening,” he told the officers.
To the (many) reporters in the room, he joked: “That’s it! Was it all that you hoped it would be?”
“I did get a good look,” he said, of the documents.
He then asked reporters to leave the courtroom, noting that the courthouse’s workers can’t leave until they’ve vacated the space.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 15, 2023 1:19:12 GMT
Is it possible that he's going to be charged with the police officer's death that died as well? I wasn't really paying all that much attention to the news, but I swear that's just what I heard.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 1:23:44 GMT
www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/14/us/trump-indictment-georgia-electionChé Alexander, the clerk of the Fulton County Superior Court, said that if grand jurors were to vote to approve indictments tonight, she would stay as late as needed in order to process them and make them publicly available. “I’m not going to leave until it’s done,” she said. Judge is seated, clerk is seated. Hot damn. I was gonna watch Netflix, but I can’t walk away now because of FOMO. McBurney—lol, he’s the judge I told you gave Trump the judicial equivalent of the Southern “bless your heart.” AJ, do you remember what Giuliani, Trump and their MAGA cretins did to the two black poll workers in Georgia who were just doing their jobs—Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss? I hope Fani’s upcoming indictment has Giuliani’s name plastered all over it along with Trump’s. And if they’re found guilty, I’ll print that guilty verdict, frame it and hang it on my wall. I do remember that. What Giuliani, Trump and his supporters did was indefensible. One of the women had to go into hiding because of the death threats. Both lived in terror for months. I hope Giuliani has to pay in both the civil and criminal trials. This was a step in the right direction, but not nearly enough. www.npr.org/2023/07/26/1190173929/rudy-giuliani-georgia-election-workersThis declaration also stipulates that Giuliani "believes that he has legal defenses" to the lawsuit and wants to "avoid unnecessary expenses in litigating what he believes to be unnecessary disputes." He also said he believes his statements were constitutionally protected.
www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-election-threats-georgia/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 1:24:42 GMT
According to what I’m gathering on twitter a press conference will be held once the clerk processes the indictments which could take between 1-3 hours
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 15, 2023 1:25:34 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 15, 2023 1:25:44 GMT
It may take upwards of three hours to get the papers processed.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 1:27:30 GMT
A reminder from Democracy Docket….
”Fulton County grand jury returns 10 indictments in the Trump 2020 election case. The defendants and exact charges are still unknown. Watch this space for updates.”
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 1:36:20 GMT
A random comment……
”Stop saying it’s unprecedented, he gets indicted every week.”
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