uksue
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Jun 25, 2014 22:33:20 GMT
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Post by uksue on Feb 10, 2024 19:12:12 GMT
Bottom line - Biden was exonerated by the report, then Hur leveled a 300 page political attack. He’s a piece of shit political hack, as are you. You’re unstable. Go touch some grass, get laid, or a hobby. Taking into account the report that says Biden "has diminished mental faculties" doesn't make me unstable. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Your strange concern with my orgasms and sex life does makes you appear completely unhinged, though. Every time I see a bonkers Maga hat wearing Trump sheep being interviewed, I wonder if it's you.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 19:15:37 GMT
You can justify and defend Trump’s stupid comments regarding disinfectant however you want.
Facts, not propaganda- Trump suggested studying the injection of bleach. It was a reckless, stupid idea and health officials had to explicitly tell people to not do it.
Personally, I prefer an intelligent, thoughtful president of any age over a stupid one, only a few years younger.
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dawnnikol
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 10, 2024 19:16:21 GMT
But this discussion is clearly pointless. For someone, SUCH AS YOURSELF, who claims to care about CONTEXT and correcting things in terms of CONTEXT, you seem blind to any truthful negative reports about BIDEN. Everyone has stated over and over and over that we do not hold Biden up as some untouchable messiah who is without fault or flaw. If he has committed crimes, have at it. The full report, which is over 380 pages, is full of bias. The 380+ pages could've been 3 pages but wouldn't have had the same effect as a political hit job. Everything has context, including Hur and how he is where he is. This thread was started with no context, as it did not even include the full report.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 19:33:24 GMT
Taking into account the report that says Biden "has diminished mental faculties" doesn't make me unstable. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Your strange concern with my orgasms and sex life does makes you appear completely unhinged, though. Every time I see a bonkers Maga hat wearing Trump sheep being interviewed, I wonder if it's you. I'm not maga and I don't wear maga hats. You can stop wondering.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 19:40:32 GMT
You can justify and defend Trump’s stupid comments regarding disinfectant however you want. Facts, not propaganda- Trump suggested studying the injection of bleach. It was a reckless, stupid idea and health officials had to explicitly tell people to not do it. Personally, I prefer an intelligent, thoughtful president of any age over a stupid one, only a few years younger. You can dismiss the FACT that he said "It wouldn’t be through injections" all you want. Doing so IS propaganda. It's comical how those of you that dismissed these things when Biden does them are now running around trying to dig up instances and applying them to Trump. YOU said: You can't have it both ways... So, by your own standards, YOU can't criticize TRUMP without acknowledging BIDEN's factual errors, strange rants and incoherent statements.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 10, 2024 19:49:04 GMT
The simple fact is Biden is doing a hell of a job. America is way ahead in recovery from COVID than the rest of the world so he's clearly doing something right. He's not threatening democracy or women's rights or threatening to be a dictator as Trump is. I think the report is tainted by bias, but anyone who would pick a nasty abusive womanising liar over Biden should search their soul for where things went badly wrong with their morals and values. 👍🏻. Odds are that you will get a response with heavily bolded font for that bit of truth-telling. ☺️☺️☺️
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huskergal
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Jun 25, 2014 20:22:13 GMT
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Post by huskergal on Feb 10, 2024 20:13:52 GMT
Every time I see a bonkers Maga hat wearing Trump sheep being interviewed, I wonder if it's you. I'm not maga and I don't wear maga hats. You can stop wondering. He added: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 10, 2024 20:25:33 GMT
I use to say trump was “intellectually lazy and not curious”. After listening to him I’ve changed my thinking to the man is just plain dumb.
Below is what he said. Look at what he said. Seriously? Note where he later tried to walk back what he said. The ONLY reason he tried to walk back what he said was I suspect when he was babbling about that crap his staffers were freaking out and convinced him it was what he needed to do.
As to how bleach got mixed up in this. When people think of disinfectants they automatically think of bleach and Clorox.
From PolitiFact.
“What Trump said about disinfectants
After Bryan’s presentation, Trump floated the idea of using disinfectants to treat COVID-19 patients. He did not say Americans should ingest chemicals to prevent or treat the virus.
Here’s the full context:
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.
"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."
It’s not clear what part of that discussion he was characterizing as a "sarcastic question" to reporters.”
What Trump said about sunlight
Bryan said the DHS study found that sunlight has an adverse effect on the coronavirus. So Trump asked whether there was some way to use sunlight in COVID-19 patients.
But as with his comments on disinfectants, the president stopped short of saying sunlight can cure the coronavirus. Here’s the full context:
Trump: "I hope people enjoy the sun, and if it has an impact, that’s great. I’m just hearing this, not really for the first time. I mean, there’s been a rumor, a very nice rumor, that you go outside in the sun or you have heat, and it does have an effect on other viruses. But now we get it from one of the great laboratories of the world, I have to say. Covers a lot more territory than just this. This is probably an easy thing, relatively speaking, for you.
"I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there’s any way that you can apply light and heat to cure. You know? If you could? And maybe you can, maybe you can’t. Again, I say maybe you can, maybe you can’t. I’m not a doctor. But I’m a person that has a good… You know what. Deborah, have you ever heard of that? The heat and the light relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus?"
Dr. Deborah Birx: "Not as a treatment. I mean, certainly fever is a good thing. When you have a fever, it helps your body respond. But, I’ve not seen heat or light as a —"
Trump: "I think that’s a great thing to look at. OK?"
Later he said this….
”"I was asking a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside," he said during a briefing in the Oval Office on April 24. "But it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands, and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters."
Politifact recap….
”IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
During a coronavirus press briefing, President Trump floated the idea of using disinfectants and sunlight to treat COVID-19 patients.
Trump has since walked back those remarks, and several websites and social media posts have taken them out of context.
The briefing transcript shows that Trump did not say people should inject themselves with bleach or alcohol to treat the coronavirus. He was asking officials on the White House coronavirus task force whether they could be used in potential cures.
As to the bolded part. It didn’t really matter who would inject one with this mysterious “disinfectant” it’s the idea that there was some type of “disinfectant “ to inject regardless of who did it that was dumb.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 20:47:09 GMT
Everyone has stated over and over and over that we do not hold Biden up as some untouchable messiah who is without fault or flaw. All while demonizing over and over and over every negative fact or opinion about him and demonizing anyone that brings those facts or opinions, as if he's some untouchable messiah who is without fault or flaw.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 21:20:18 GMT
No he wasn't.
Report said: Biden’s practices “present serious risks to national security”
"Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen."
The report said a jury would find Biden "a well meaning, elderly man with a poor memory" That it would be "difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him --by then a former president well into his eighties-- of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfullness."
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 21:37:42 GMT
The reason they didn't go to a jury to charge him- couldnt charge him is "because his diminished faculties and faulty memory he showed in our interview with him."
So he's too diminished mentally to be charged with a crime, but he's okay to run the country?
Or he's not diminished mentally and he CAN be charged with the crime?
You can't have it both ways.
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Post by compeateropeator on Feb 10, 2024 21:55:23 GMT
The reason they didn't go to a jury to charge him- couldnt charge him is "because his diminished faculties and faulty memory he showed in our interview with him." So he's too diminished mentally to be charged with a crime, but he's okay to run the country? Or he's not diminished mentally and he CAN be charged with the crime? You can't have it both ways. Well then they didn’t do their job IMO, which was to determine if he should be charged with a crime. They, obviously, didn’t think they could get anywhere with that. The diminished faculties was their non medical opinion and should not have been related to if they could charge him. I would say the same with Trump. I certainly think that his faculties are diminished but they have found reason to indict him and charge him with his various crimes. But no matter, you could not charge Biden until after he has completed his term, because per Trump’s rules you can’t charge a sitting President.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:00:34 GMT
Per Trump’s rules, President Biden should have absolute immunity. And Biden should be able to have ultimate powers of classification and be able to do whatever he wants with documents that belong to him and are in his possession
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:09:44 GMT
This explains why in part Trump supporters are willing to overlook his age and forgive his mistakes, errors, gaffes etc. There are higher expectations of President Biden and he’s perceived differently www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/us/politics/biden-trump-aging.htmlWhile Mr. Biden has acknowledged that voters’ concerns about his age are reasonable, Mr. Trump has responded to these episodes with typical hyperbole. In 2015, he released a hastily written doctor’s note declaring that if elected he would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” In office, amid news reports of his erratic behavior, Mr. Trump asserted that he was actually a “very stable genius.” Today, he regularly mocks Mr. Biden for his age, while boasting about acing a test that detects cognitive decline. Mr. Trump’s responses point to a basic asymmetry of expectations that appears to be working in his favor: His impulsiveness and willingness to go off-script in ways that can be messy only adds to his image as an unrehearsed, unvarnished chaos agent, a key source of his popularity with Republicans. Verbal flubs by Mr. Biden, by contrast, undermine the image of experience, competence and professionalism that got him elected, and that even his supporters quietly fear may be slipping away. “Donald Trump is more of an entertainer than a politician in many ways,” Mr. Pocan said. “And I think there’s just a different set of expectations and that’s why he gets away with it.” Ms. Goman, the leadership coach — who said she supports Mr. Biden — also suggested that Mr. Trump’s experience as a reality television star might have influenced how he performs and is perceived in public. “Trump is big,” Ms. Goman said. “He simply takes over. He has that kind of full-charge-ahead persona that does correlate with being younger, healthier, more active. Biden doesn’t. He is a different kind of person. And, unfortunately, in this situation, it doesn’t work out well.”
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:17:33 GMT
This is an excellent point. Biden meets with so many people in private. If he really was suffering from diminished mental abilities, and incapable of doing his job, the White House would not be able to contain that heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/february-9-2024Dan Pfeiffer of Pod Save America and Message Box noted that the report’s “characterizations of Biden don't match those relayed by everyone who talks to him, including [Republicans].” He explained: “There are few secrets in [Washington], and if Joe Biden acted like Hur says, we would all know. Biden meets with dozens of people daily—staffers, members of Congress, CEOs, labor officials, foreign leaders, and military and intelligence officials…. If Biden was regularly misremembering obvious pieces of information or making other mistakes that suggested he was not up to the job, it would be in the press. Washington is not capable of keeping something like that secret."
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:20:48 GMT
www.threads.net/@briantylercohen/post/C3I2Rw9vaNC/The thing about Biden’s memory is that he’s presided over the addition of ~15 million jobs & 800k manufacturing jobs, 23 straight months of sub-4% unemployment, surging consumer sentiment, wages outpacing inflation, the American Rescue Plan, Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPs Act, PACT Act, infrastructure law, gun safety law, VAWA, codified marriage equality, canceleded $136 billion in student loan debt for 3.7 million borrowers, bolstered NATO, and presided over electoral wins in ‘20, ‘22 and ‘23.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 10, 2024 22:22:30 GMT
Trump also said that he would tell Putin to do what he wants, so there is that.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:23:37 GMT
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Post by sideways on Feb 10, 2024 22:35:24 GMT
Bottom line - Biden was exonerated by the report, then Hur leveled a 300 page political attack. He’s a piece of shit political hack, as are you. You’re unstable. Go touch some grass, get laid, or a hobby. Taking into account the report that says Biden "has diminished mental faculties" doesn't make me unstable. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Your strange concern with my orgasms and sex life does makes you appear completely unhinged, though. OMG , IT KEEPS A SPREADSHEET! 😂 Yeah…me telling you your brain needs to get some happy hormone in some way is totally unhinged. Not at all sane like your multitude of posts with ALL CAPS, BOLD, and LOTS of Different font sizes, and bolded, ALL CAPS. Not to mention the right-fighting, Rumpelstiltskin-like tantrum, outright false, trump ass-kissing content.
Nah…all that doesn’t make you look the least bit insane.
🙄😂🍿
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Post by sideways on Feb 10, 2024 22:38:01 GMT
The reason they didn't go to a jury to charge him- couldnt charge him is "because his diminished faculties and faulty memory he showed in our interview with him." So he's too diminished mentally to be charged with a crime, but he's okay to run the country? Or he's not diminished mentally and he CAN be charged with the crime? You can't have it both ways. He’s not diminished, and he was exonerated. Exonerated means no crime was committed. Ya freak show.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:41:18 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 22:43:20 GMT
Great historical context for how Republicans use investigations to discredit and smear their political opponents. I love the way that she lays it all out and provides historical context. And yes, I believe that this was an attempt at a political hit job. His IS a Republican, and was in the AG’s office during the Trump administration. Hur deserves to be lambasted over his condescending, ageist description of Biden’s memory. I am glad that Democrats have finally taken off the gloves. It’s time to fight, or we will end up with an autocrat in the Oval Office. FINALLY taken the gloves off?😆 You guys never had gloves. You've been dishonestly fighting since he came down the escalators. You wanted to impeach him before he was even nominated, much less elected. That's dishonest. More dishonesty: Russia Collusion Hoax Charlottesville Fine People Hoax Laptop Russian Disinformation Hoax Injecting Bleach Hoax
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:45:16 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 22:49:38 GMT
Taking into account the report that says Biden "has diminished mental faculties" doesn't make me unstable. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Your strange concern with my orgasms and sex life does makes you appear completely unhinged, though. OMG , IT KEEPS A SPREADSHEET! 😂 Yeah…me telling you your brain needs to get some happy hormone in some way is totally unhinged. Not at all sane like your multitude of posts with ALL CAPS, BOLD, and LOTS of Different font sizes, and bolded, ALL CAPS. Not to mention the right-fighting, Rumpelstiltskin-like tantrum, outright false, trump ass-kissing content.
Nah…all that doesn’t make you look the least bit insane.
🙄😂🍿Everyone here has an ongoing list of recent posts. No spreadsheet needed, but you knew that. You just needed something. Anything. Desperately searching. And that's all you had. You clearly are projecting. Go tend to your own "happy hormones".
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 10, 2024 22:49:50 GMT
The reason they didn't go to a jury to charge him- couldnt charge him is "because his diminished faculties and faulty memory he showed in our interview with him." So he's too diminished mentally to be charged with a crime, but he's okay to run the country? Or he's not diminished mentally and he CAN be charged with the crime? You can't have it both ways. You’re ignoring the conclusion www.npr.org/2024/02/09/1230333392/biden-classified-documents-highlightsA year-long investigation into President Biden's handling of classified material will not result in any charges. Special counsel Robert Hur concluded in his report that the evidence investigators uncovered falls short of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" that Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials. While the special counsel investigation did find some evidence that Biden knew he had some materials that contained classified information, the report says ultimately the evidence doesn't support bringing charges. Hur said the evidence doesn't establish Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and that it would be hard to prove that Biden willfully intended to break the law.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 22:57:15 GMT
You've been Ruparred. "A year-long investigation into President Biden's handling of classified material", interviewing him and seeing his "decling mental capacity" gives him a pretty clear ability to know that.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 23:09:40 GMT
A new NBC poll released this week found a combined 76 percent of voters say they have major (62 percent) or moderate (14 percent) concerns about Biden lacking the necessary mental and physical health to be president for a second term. Perhaps most worrisomely for the president, 81 percent of independents and 54 percent of Democrats say they have major or moderate concerns about Biden’s fitness for a second term. From Politico
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Post by Merge on Feb 10, 2024 23:14:48 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 10, 2024 23:17:40 GMT
I dont think either one of the candidates is a good candidate for President. This seems relevant here.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 10, 2024 23:25:38 GMT
The special counsel investigating Biden’s handling of classified material said: Mr Biden's memory also appeared to have significant limitations.... In his interview with our office, Mr. Biden's memory was worse. He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended ("if it was 2013 - when did I stop being Vice President?"), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began ("in 2009, am I still Vice President?"). He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died. And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him. Among other things, he mistakenly said he "had a real difference" of opinion with General Karl Eikenberry, when, in fact, Eikenberry was an ally whom Mr. Biden cited approvingly in his Thanksgiving memo to President Obama. This calls for its own thread. Your thoughts on this…. DNC War Room… ”Trump during his trial for sexual assault said he couldn’t remember when he got engaged or married to his current wife: I don’t know” You can hear him answer these questions about when he got engaged and when her married his current wife in the video link. So don’t you think he should have remembered that? I mean maybe not the year he got engaged but surely he should remember the year he got married. Don’t you think? x.com/dncwarroom/status/1756444744962769116?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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