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Post by epeanymous on May 6, 2024 18:00:51 GMT
One thing about protests, they are never by the right people in the right way about the right things. I don’t believe the tweet I posted said any of that. One can agree with the protestors and support their right to be heard while also wishing we had more people willing to get mad and speak about these other issues. Oh no, that wasn't critical of you, but the fact that I have never seen any protest activity that people generally seemed to approve! I am literally seeing (not on here) some of the same people who hated the Black Lives Matter protests complaining that those were good protests and these are unjustified. I do think there would have been more campus protests around abortion had Dobbs come down during the time of year when students are on campus. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 6, 2024 18:02:26 GMT
HAMAS has accepted the proposal, drawn up by Egypt and Water, for a ceasefire. Israel and US State Dept are studying it...
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Post by Bridget in MD on May 6, 2024 18:39:12 GMT
FAFO, baby!  One small step toward progress.... This is small progress. Has anyone seen the TT made by Asa Blanton? Her video was DISGUSTING about the new Beyonce country song: "If you’re Black, you’re not country. I don’t care. I wish I meant that in the nicest way but like…I know you were raised in the “country”…or your grandparents I guess…and your great granny and grandpa’s…but they was picking okay. They wasn’t planting. Keep that in mind. They wasn’t making money. They wasn’t getting sold for money. They ain’t country” She's a nursing student at Indiana State U. And she has NOT been removed, and ISU hasn't said a thing about it. |
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Post by aj2hall on May 6, 2024 21:30:37 GMT
I thought this was interesting about students' priorities being the economy, with Gaza pretty far down the list. www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/us/politics/biden-trump-gaza-college-protests.htmlSurveys taken in recent months show young voters are more likely to sympathize with Palestinians in the conflict, but few of them rank the Israel-Hamas war among their top issues in the 2024 election. Like other voters, young people often put economic concerns at the top the list.
And while young voters are cooler to Mr. Biden than they were at the same point in 2020, there is little evidence that American support for the Israeli invasion of Gaza is a critical factor in their relative discontent.
In the Harvard Institute of Politics’ Youth Poll conducted shortly before the past month’s wave of campus demonstrations and crackdowns, 18-to-29-year-old Americans overwhelmingly faulted Mr. Biden for his handling of the conflict in Gaza, with 76 percent disapproving and 18 percent approving. But only 2 percent of them rated it their top concern in the election, compared with 27 percent who said they were most concerned about economic issues.
In an Economist/YouGov poll taken more recently, in late April, 22 percent of voters aged 18 to 29 listed inflation as their most important issue. Two percent named foreign policy as their top concern. (The poll did not specifically ask about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.) |
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Post by aj2hall on May 19, 2024 3:45:14 GMT
I thought this was an interesting opinion about the protests. Opinions seem to vary by generation and whether you agree with them or not, the protests are getting attention and could potentially affect change beyond campuses. today.yougov.com/politics/articles/49311-opinion-on-pro-palestinian-college-campus-protestsgift article - no paywall www.nytimes.com/2024/05/17/opinion/student-protesters-gaza-hillary-clinton.html?unlocked_article_code=1.tE0.UdEc.e7X8AM1ONsKB&smid=url-shareA recent YouGov poll found that 45 percent of people ages 45 to 64 strongly opposed the protests, as did 56 percent of people 65 and older. By comparison, only 12 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds strongly opposed them, and 21 percent of people ages 30 to 44.
Students brave enough to risk their financial aid and scholarships are derided as childish rather than principled. And though they are educated to participate in civic life, as soon as these students exercise their First Amendment rights, they are told that protecting private property is a more pressing public concern. It’s as though some older adults simply can’t wrap their heads around the idea that college students, who are old enough to marry, have families and risk their lives for their country, are capable of having well thought-out principles.
“They basically want students to shut up and study,” is how Robert Cohen, a scholar of 20th-century social protest, put it when I spoke to him this week. It doesn’t matter how virtuous the cause, he explained; older generations start with a bias against students. But protest is often the only way students have any voice at all in university matters. “People do not understand that university governance is fundamentally undemocratic,” Mr. Cohen said, noting that even students who have convinced universities to consider divestment have won, at best, the right to make their case to the board.
I am exhilarated to see students using protest for exactly the reasons it’s protected by the First Amendment. It allows them to stand up for their values, invest in what’s happening in the world and hold decision makers accountable, even if it means putting themselves at risk. And most compellingly, it’s getting the attention of the president and other lawmakers who can effect change far beyond the walls of any university campus.
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