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Post by Zee on Jun 14, 2024 22:53:13 GMT
I'm always on my phone and never even see tags. I would ignore them in any case. If it's keeping away people that don't want to discuss politics, how is that bad for you? Who cares? Other than your perception that you're now a second class citizen because of it, I guess I don't see that it has any effect on the pages-long threads that devolve into political rants no matter what the subject was originally. As I said, it unnecessarily stigmatizes the people who post on those threads, as if we’re not quite fit for polite society. And I too am almost always on my phone and don’t see them, which is why when I do use my computer, the labels are really jarring. Anyway, it seems the bullies think it’s a fun little game - which gives me a clue as to their identities - and nothing will change. I think admin deserted us long ago, so there’s no way to remove the ability to tag things that I know of. Petty, maybe, but hardly "bullying". Just ignore it and they'll never know that it's upsetting you. I can't say I've ever felt "stigmatized" here over participating in a political thread. I rarely do anyway, but, I don't care in any case. We've all been here long enough to know basically what to expect from each other. 🤷♀️ |
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Post by lisae on Jun 14, 2024 23:06:43 GMT
I don't care either way about the politics tag.
Since this has turned into a thread about what we like and don't, I wish people who want recommendations for travel would tell us where they are traveling from! I'm not going to recommend a weekend in Savannah if you live in Idaho. Budget, likes and dislikes are also helpful.
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Post by lindas on Jun 14, 2024 23:33:06 GMT
The only tender flower here is you, such an insignificant thing to get worked up over. All you had to do was remove the political tag from your first thread and it would have been over instead you start another thread complaining about it. Now whoever marked it political knows they can get under your skin and will continue. You’re both being petty.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 15, 2024 0:36:04 GMT
I don't mind the Politics label, but I also don't think it is necessary to have it. If I can scroll past the annoying games threads, and choose to ignore other topics that don't interest me, then others can scroll past the obviously political threads.
It doesn't make me feel second class in any way. I do, however, hate that some people jump on to mark a thread as Political when it is not inherently political in nature. I think that only the OP should be able to label the thread. But seeing that we can all do it, I have made it my mission to un-label every thread that someone erroneously (deliberately/maliciously) labels as Political
I definitely don't want a separate board, and I am very glad that option was strongly voted against.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 15, 2024 0:38:28 GMT
Ha! Now someone has labelled the raw milk thread as Political. When I posted on it two minutes ago, it wasn't labelled. I would love for the person who labelled that one to explain to me why they have labelled it as Political.
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Post by mom on Jun 15, 2024 0:39:06 GMT
Normally I don't care if we have the label or not. But with the upcoming election, I think it should stay until then because the political threads will start overspilling into regular threads if the past is any sign of whats to come.. Then once it's over, it can go away again.
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Post by mom on Jun 15, 2024 0:40:20 GMT
Ha! Now someone has labelled the raw milk thread as Political. When I posted on it two minutes ago, it wasn't labelled. I would love for the person who labelled that one to explain to me why they have labelled it as Political. Im not who labeled it, but turning point is a political non-profit so I assume thats why someone (again, not me) labeled it as such. |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jun 15, 2024 0:58:29 GMT
I feel that way about the "old thread" label.
I will tag a thread, because it's more than a year old....and someone else un-tags it. It's a back and forth game of tag and un-tag....over and over and over.
There is one thread specifically that I tagged, and a minute later it was un-tagged, so I tagged it again thinking I didn't do the tagging correctly. Turns out someone is intentionally un-tagging the over a year old threads......but I was able to figure out who it was....and they are in my opinion >> trolling the board and un-tagging on purpose, because they can and they like to instigate.
It doesn't do any good to tag an "old thread", because the troll comes along and un-tags it.
Personally, I think if a thread is more than a year old it should be tag "old thread".
Several times, I've commented on a thread....then start reading only to realize it's an "old thread" and I already commented on it a long time ago.
I scroll past the politics threads. If I opened a thread and it's politics...then I close it and move on.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 15, 2024 1:17:18 GMT
I feel that way about the "old thread" label. I will tag a thread, because it's more than a year old....and someone else un-tags it. It's a back and forth game of tag and un-tag....over and over and over. There is one thread specifically that I tagged, and a minute later it was un-tagged, so I tagged it again thinking I didn't do the tagging correctly. Turns out someone is intentionally un-tagging the over a year old threads......but I was able to figure out who it was....and they are in my opinion >> trolling the board and un-tagging on purpose, because they can and they like to instigate. It doesn't do any good to tag an "old thread", because the troll comes along and un-tags it. Personally, I think if a thread is more than a year old it should be tag "old thread". Several times, I've commented on a thread....then start reading only to realize it's an "old thread" and I already commented on it a long time ago. I scroll past the politics threads. If I opened a thread and it's politics...then I close it and move on. Who? And how did you figure it out? |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jun 15, 2024 1:40:45 GMT
I feel that way about the "old thread" label. I will tag a thread, because it's more than a year old....and someone else un-tags it. It's a back and forth game of tag and un-tag....over and over and over. There is one thread specifically that I tagged, and a minute later it was un-tagged, so I tagged it again thinking I didn't do the tagging correctly. Turns out someone is intentionally un-tagging the over a year old threads......but I was able to figure out who it was....and they are in my opinion >> trolling the board and un-tagging on purpose, because they can and they like to instigate. It doesn't do any good to tag an "old thread", because the troll comes along and un-tags it. Personally, I think if a thread is more than a year old it should be tag "old thread". Several times, I've commented on a thread....then start reading only to realize it's an "old thread" and I already commented on it a long time ago. I scroll past the politics threads. If I opened a thread and it's politics...then I close it and move on. Who? And how did you figure it out? It was over several nights. I figured it out, by the few users that were "currently online"....and common denominator. I literally thought I was tagging wrong and wasn't doing it correctly. So I kept tagging the same thread "old thread", then a less than a minute later it was un-tagged. I kept re-tagging because I thought it was my error and that I was somehow doing incorrectly.. This went on over several nights. I looked to see who was online and possibly doing the un-tagging....and the same person person (common denominator) online ever time, but the other names changes. Then on another thread, someone mentioned that someone is tagging or un-tagging various threads on purpose, just to be a troll. I prefer not to name names, just in case my theory isn't correct. In general, I don't care which threads are tagged and which are not. I was simply trying to be helpful, and let the others know that a thread was "old".....but the troll just wants to mess with everyone...so I stopped tagging threads old.....because I am not going to play games with a troll. It is frustrating though, when I think a thread is new and it's a year or two (or more) old. Especially if I've already commented on it. I've notice the same thing with the politics threads >>tag, un-tag, tag, un-tag... and figured it was the troll(s) playing games because they can. In the grand scheme of life....let it go, because trolls are going to troll. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 15, 2024 1:51:03 GMT
ScrapbookMyLife just as an FYI you can hide yourself from the list of current users. So yeah best to not say.
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Post by Merge on Jun 15, 2024 3:38:31 GMT
The only tender flower here is you, such an insignificant thing to get worked up over. All you had to do was remove the political tag from your first thread and it would have been over instead you start another thread complaining about it. Now whoever marked it political knows they can get under your skin and will continue. You’re both being petty. We have people here who can't read titles or cope with accidentally opening a political thread, but I'm the tender flower for not wanting to be treated like a leper? Alrighty then. I'm sure "whoever" marked it political (which I predicted in the OP) gets their jollies from getting under people's skin in any case. Seek therapy. |
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Post by mich5481 on Jun 15, 2024 3:50:13 GMT
The only tender flower here is you, such an insignificant thing to get worked up over. All you had to do was remove the political tag from your first thread and it would have been over instead you start another thread complaining about it. Now whoever marked it political knows they can get under your skin and will continue. You’re both being petty. We have people here who can't read titles or cope with accidentally opening a political thread, but I'm the tender flower for not wanting to be treated like a leper? Alrighty then. I'm sure "whoever" marked it political (which I predicted in the OP) gets their jollies from getting under people's skin in any case. Seek therapy. I'm just really confused as to why you feel like a leper? I don't think most people who post in political threads are treated as lepers, unless of course they are conservative. (And I say this as a conservative who has learned not to post in contentious threads after being treated in a way that made me feel poorly treated.) In general, I don't view political peas as anything terrible, although there are a few *lovely* posters who are real pieces of work, and I try to avoid those individuals. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 15, 2024 3:52:06 GMT
As this point there is only one thread with a label and I just added it to my Misc Political thread because the label that was there was gone.
So what’s going on?
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Post by Merge on Jun 15, 2024 4:04:47 GMT
We have people here who can't read titles or cope with accidentally opening a political thread, but I'm the tender flower for not wanting to be treated like a leper? Alrighty then. I'm sure "whoever" marked it political (which I predicted in the OP) gets their jollies from getting under people's skin in any case. Seek therapy. I'm just really confused as to why you feel like a leper? I don't think most people who post in political threads are treated as lepers, unless of course they are conservative. (And I say this as a conservative who has learned not to post in contentious threads after being treated in a way that made me feel poorly treated.) In general, I don't view political peas as anything terrible, although there are a few *lovely* posters who are real pieces of work, and I try to avoid those individuals. Because those threads are singled out for a label, and often labeled by someone other than a participant, when no other thread is. There's no point to it. There are threads we'd rather not read and we're expected to just ignore them. I feel those who don't want to read political threads should be able to do the same and not put us in some special category. Something that often comes up is that a poster is afraid to mention a leader or law in a non-political thread for fear it will get the dreaded politics label. It's ridiculous and has a dampening effect on discourse in some cases. |
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Post by gar on Jun 15, 2024 8:37:50 GMT
Well, with the number of people saying that they have done the tagging/un-tagging shenanigans with the one(s) who find it so exciting to wield the label, it's clearly a totally pointless function now.
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Post by gillyp on Jun 15, 2024 9:13:06 GMT
I do like both labels. I tend to flit in and out of the board and they stop me reading something that I invariably don’t have time to read, not that I’m not interested in. I avoid the political threads because I have insufficient knowledge to make a contribution, imho. I would like to say I use them to educate myself but that doesn’t really happen.
Regarding the Old thread, I still think it has a place when used correctly. It came about at first as we were being infiltrated by a number of bots posting suspicious links and the label was to 1. Alert people that they’d probably already waded through that particular thread in the past and 2. Be wary about the more recent posts. We don’t seem to have had the bot situation for a while.
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Post by gar on Jun 15, 2024 9:26:51 GMT
Regarding the Old thread, I still think it has a place when used correctly. It came about at first as we were being infiltrated by a number of bots posting suspicious links and the label was to 1. Alert people that they’d probably already waded through that particular thread in the past and 2. Be wary about the more recent posts. We don’t seem to have had the bot situation for a while. I like the Old Thread label too, when 'someone' allows it to be used as intended. Removing it from a thread that is demonstrably 'old' is baffling. |
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Post by hop2 on Jun 15, 2024 10:19:05 GMT
Well, then we don’t get the entertainment of guessing why a thread about tomatoes is labeled political. 🙄😀 (sarcasm )
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Post by hop2 on Jun 15, 2024 10:23:36 GMT
I feel that way about the "old thread" label. I will tag a thread, because it's more than a year old....and someone else un-tags it. It's a back and forth game of tag and un-tag....over and over and over. There is one thread specifically that I tagged, and a minute later it was un-tagged, so I tagged it again thinking I didn't do the tagging correctly. Turns out someone is intentionally un-tagging the over a year old threads......but I was able to figure out who it was....and they are in my opinion >> trolling the board and un-tagging on purpose, because they can and they like to instigate. It doesn't do any good to tag an "old thread", because the troll comes along and un-tags it. Personally, I think if a thread is more than a year old it should be tag "old thread". Several times, I've commented on a thread....then start reading only to realize it's an "old thread" and I already commented on it a long time ago. I scroll past the politics threads. If I opened a thread and it's politics...then I close it and move on. If I’ve commented on an old thread and I didn’t realize it was an old thread. When I do realize it I like to go back & see if my advice changed over time. lol |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 15, 2024 11:44:00 GMT
We, and they, then miss out on their contribution. God forbid anyone discuss current events. Therefore you might be missing out on what really is a non political topic that might interest you and the participants are missing out on your input on the subject. It's ridiculous and has a dampening effect on discourse in some cases. I read the title and the OP early yesterday afternoon and my immediate thought was "what difference does it make?" I mean in the grand scheme of things is this a big deal? I pea on my phone like 95% of the time so I don't see any labels and I sometimes avoid the politics threads (if my brain isn't in that space) and I sometimes read them. So really I have no dog in this fight. I am not buying the second class citizen/poster thing as I think Merge hasn't been treated as anything but a respected member of this board. (I like you too, BTW) But then I just had to read further this morning...these comments. This is the real motive. You want more people to participate and are truly afraid the politics label is keeping them away in general? I mean that's what I'm reading here. So why aren't we putting this argument out in black and white as the #1 priority instead of dancing around like political posters are being relegated to wearing scarlet letters? I mean onelasttime famously leads a number of political posts and lately she's been posting all sorts of various things and no one has shunned her threads. Even morecowbell who people have much stronger feelings about when she posts a thread that is non-political gets interaction. The fact is the board has been slow. All of it has been slow. It is the worst I've seen it in the 20 years I've been a member. But it takes all of us posting things to keep it moving and interesting. Lately I feel like the desire to post here has been falling off for many people and it saddens me, but I can't force people to post. And you can't trick people into reading and posting on a thread that is (debatable, I know)...political or dealing with social issues that unfortunately one side has made political. I'm not sure removing the politics label is going to get you any nearer to your goal...which I am getting from your words above...is more participation. And Merge I am not picking on you at all. I believe wholeheartedly you are a sensitive, kind person. Big, big heart. If I had to guess, I think you really just want people to care about these things. I applaud this goal. On some of these issues, it breaks my heart that people don't seem to have any compassion or see things that are harming other people and their role in perpetuating them. So I think you really want people to come in and read and expose themselves to things like this because you want to change hearts. I admire that. My vote is, I don't care about whether the politics label stays or goes. But my vote is also that people start threads, preferably ones better than "what color socks match most of your clothing?" And I'll try to do the same.  |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 15, 2024 12:00:17 GMT
It has nothing to do with the label. I actually cane to this board for the politics - a decade or more ago - it was entertaining. It’s just not now - there’s a certain poster who is the most prolific who does not discuss - it was annoying as hell to just see this as some weird depositary of twitter comments. I do not open those threads ever - but if someone would to have an actual discussion great- I don’t think it helps that honestly there’s not a lot of conflict which always makes debating more fun - most of us are just frustrated and agree - where’s the fun in that?
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 15, 2024 12:12:08 GMT
I feel that way about the "old thread" label. I will tag a thread, because it's more than a year old....and someone else un-tags it. It's a back and forth game of tag and un-tag....over and over and over. It depends on the thread though. The Old Thread tag was created for those times such as when spam trolls come onto the board after searching the internet for threads on XYZ, then they BTT an old thread they've found here, with a link to something they're trying to sell to help with XYZ. There are some other types of old threads that we don't want tagged. The thread about what we're watching on Netflix and Prime, for example. It was started four years ago, and we keep adding to it every week. That doesn't warrant the Old Thread tag. And the games threads as well. |
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Post by pjaye on Jun 15, 2024 13:28:12 GMT
It doesn't do any good to tag an "old thread", because the troll comes along and un-tags it. I doubt that happens, bots can't do that and trolls who have only joined to post their dodgy links wouldn't know they can do that either. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 15, 2024 13:55:34 GMT
It doesn't do any good to tag an "old thread", because the troll comes along and un-tags it. I doubt that happens, bots can't do that and trolls who have only joined to post their dodgy links wouldn't know they can do that either. I think she is referring to our resident trolls not spammer trolls. |
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Post by lindas on Jun 15, 2024 13:58:50 GMT
As this point there is only one thread with a label and I just added it to my Misc Political thread because the label that was there was gone. So what’s going on? Your political label has been removed once again, seems someone is on a petty and childish revenge roll. |
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Post by Merge on Jun 15, 2024 14:50:35 GMT
We, and they, then miss out on their contribution. God forbid anyone discuss current events. Therefore you might be missing out on what really is a non political topic that might interest you and the participants are missing out on your input on the subject. It's ridiculous and has a dampening effect on discourse in some cases. I read the title and the OP early yesterday afternoon and my immediate thought was "what difference does it make?" I mean in the grand scheme of things is this a big deal? I pea on my phone like 95% of the time so I don't see any labels and I sometimes avoid the politics threads (if my brain isn't in that space) and I sometimes read them. So really I have no dog in this fight. I am not buying the second class citizen/poster thing as I think Merge hasn't been treated as anything but a respected member of this board. (I like you too, BTW) But then I just had to read further this morning...these comments. This is the real motive. You want more people to participate and are truly afraid the politics label is keeping them away in general? I mean that's what I'm reading here. So why aren't we putting this argument out in black and white as the #1 priority instead of dancing around like political posters are being relegated to wearing scarlet letters? I mean onelasttime famously leads a number of political posts and lately she's been posting all sorts of various things and no one has shunned her threads. Even morecowbell who people have much stronger feelings about when she posts a thread that is non-political gets interaction. The fact is the board has been slow. All of it has been slow. It is the worst I've seen it in the 20 years I've been a member. But it takes all of us posting things to keep it moving and interesting. Lately I feel like the desire to post here has been falling off for many people and it saddens me, but I can't force people to post. And you can't trick people into reading and posting on a thread that is (debatable, I know)...political or dealing with social issues that unfortunately one side has made political. I'm not sure removing the politics label is going to get you any nearer to your goal...which I am getting from your words above...is more participation. And Merge I am not picking on you at all. I believe wholeheartedly you are a sensitive, kind person. Big, big heart. If I had to guess, I think you really just want people to care about these things. I applaud this goal. On some of these issues, it breaks my heart that people don't seem to have any compassion or see things that are harming other people and their role in perpetuating them. So I think you really want people to come in and read and expose themselves to things like this because you want to change hearts. I admire that. My vote is, I don't care about whether the politics label stays or goes. But my vote is also that people start threads, preferably ones better than "what color socks match most of your clothing?" And I'll try to do the same. IDK, can't I just feel how I feel? I don't like the label and the speed with which people jump to apply it the minute anyone attempts a real discussion. End of story. I am admittedly feeling prickly at the moment and yesterday I had just had enough. I've long since come to terms with the fact that a ridiculous number of people don't give a damn about what happens to others and would rather discuss socks. So be it. But you don't need to label and "other" those who do want to be more aware. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 15, 2024 14:54:08 GMT
Maybe peas just need to use the mobile version. Like I said, I use my phone to pea 99% of the time and don't see labels.
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Post by mich5481 on Jun 15, 2024 14:56:44 GMT
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Eleanor Roosevelt
I'm just going to leave that here.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 15, 2024 15:19:18 GMT
I don't care either way on the politics label. I like to talk/discuss politics and learn new things. I'm the one with those republican friends. I wish more people would participate overall to ANYTHING. I think that is what is so irritating about the games threads. They are basically the only recent/new postings. like,all.the.time. Is it just a few people playing them that keep bumping them? or many? IDK because I'm one of those that scroll on by. BUT they are the ones keeping the board going, because hardly anyone posts new threads anymore. I agree, the board is dead. I know one P that used to post A LOT, got roasted for the topics she posted. Like WHO.Cares. At least she was keeping the board active. I see she has greatly cut back.
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