Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 17, 2024 23:27:32 GMT
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 17, 2024 23:54:08 GMT
Eh. Is that really the worst it could get?
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Tearisci
Pearl Clutcher
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 17, 2024 23:57:53 GMT
Eh. Is that really the worst it could get? It just seems like it's heading in that direction...
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pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Jul 18, 2024 0:01:23 GMT
time is running out, a decision has to be made soon… now and the bickering has to stop or we are done.
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3boysnme
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Aug 1, 2023 13:28:26 GMT
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Post by 3boysnme on Jul 18, 2024 0:03:16 GMT
It could get worse, but please don't be thinking that! We need him to be healthy as much as an 81 year old man can be. Being on the campaign trail and already having a weakened immune system from that cold before the debate. They are saying it's a mild case, so hopefully he takes it easy.
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Post by Merge on Jul 18, 2024 0:11:15 GMT
Oh, it can get a lot worse.
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 18, 2024 0:17:11 GMT
Apparently it can and it will get worse. The whole enchilada. I'm sick over what has happened to our country.
Imagine you attend a political rally and your husband is murdered right in front of you and your kids but you won't take the President of the United States' phone call because your husband supported the other guy.
It's sick. It's tragic that we are throwing away our rich freedoms
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 18, 2024 0:48:42 GMT
time is running out, a decision has to be made soon… now and the bickering has to stop or we are done. Decision? President Joe Biden is the nominee and will not change. So what he has Covid.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 18, 2024 1:03:55 GMT
time is running out, a decision has to be made soon… now and the bickering has to stop or we are done. Decision? President Joe Biden is the nominee and will not change. So what he has Covid. Did you see him trying to get up the steps into the airplane. I bet he doesn’t have a mild case of Covid. We’re screwed with whoever gets elected.
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pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Jul 18, 2024 1:06:33 GMT
time is running out, a decision has to be made soon… now and the bickering has to stop or we are done. Decision? President Joe Biden is the nominee and will not change. So what he has Covid. So what? I’m not the issue here. I will vote for just about anyone but Trump. However, while the republicans are out spreading their message in full force Biden having COVID does not improve his image of a frail and old candidate. All the media talks about is how this and that democrat thinks he should step down. Right now everyone should be out getting their message and instead the focus is on something else.
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Post by mom on Jul 18, 2024 1:18:41 GMT
Decision? President Joe Biden is the nominee and will not change. So what he has Covid. Did you see him trying to get up the steps into the airplane. I bet he doesn’t have a mild case of Covid. We’re screwed with whoever gets elected. I swear I thought he was going to fall backwards when I saw this on the news. www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/us/politics/biden-covid-positive.html
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 18, 2024 1:40:24 GMT
So what?
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 18, 2024 1:46:51 GMT
1. Whatever you want us to see you either need to have an account or need to create one. 2. May I suggest you watch America’s Funniest Videos to see how many different ways folks of all ages find ways to end up falling flat on their face. It’s really amazing.
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Post by mom on Jul 18, 2024 2:00:43 GMT
Quoting myself with a new link. And so everyone is clear - I’m not laughing about thinking he was going to fall. It was just a statement that I thought it was possible he’d fall backwards. www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gj8314nqo.amp
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 18, 2024 2:01:07 GMT
Decision? President Joe Biden is the nominee and will not change. So what he has Covid. So what? I’m not the issue here. I will vote for just about anyone but Trump. However, while the republicans are out spreading their message in full force Biden having COVID does not improve his image of a frail and old candidate. All the media talks about is how this and that democrat thinks he should step down. Right now everyone should be out getting their message and instead the focus is on something else. Yes, they’re still trying to get him to step down. Some of them want someone other than Harris, which would cause huge problems. I keep asking if there is an actual plan, because it doesn’t look as if there is. Who knows what will happen in the next few weeks? I’ll be glad when this year is over.
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Post by mom on Jul 18, 2024 2:08:11 GMT
So what? I’m not the issue here. I will vote for just about anyone but Trump. However, while the republicans are out spreading their message in full force Biden having COVID does not improve his image of a frail and old candidate. All the media talks about is how this and that democrat thinks he should step down. Right now everyone should be out getting their message and instead the focus is on something else. Yes, they’re still trying to get him to step down. Some of them want someone other than Harris, which would cause huge problems. I keep asking if there is an actual plan, because it doesn’t look as if there is. Who knows what will happen in the next few weeks? I’ll be glad when this year is over. So Biden met with Schumer on Saturday without all their staff to talk about Biden jumping out. Surely Schumer would have a backup plan if Biden is out, right? They aren’t going to kick Harris off the ticket so who’d they put as her VP? I dunno. My head says surely they have a plan if they are still pushing Biden leaving. But my gut says probably not a strong plan.
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Post by librarylady on Jul 18, 2024 2:39:30 GMT
time is running out, a decision has to be made soon… now and the bickering has to stop or we are done. What decision? Joe Biden is the nominee. If it changes now, the election belongs to DT. I am sure Biden has kept up with vaccinations, so he should have a light case. Of course I am concerned but I am sure he will recover.
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Post by katlady on Jul 18, 2024 3:21:27 GMT
This article has Biden softening a little on his stance to not withdraw. “The private conversations with the Hill are continuing,” a senior Democratic adviser told CNN, speaking on condition of anonymity to avoid alienating the campaign and the White House. “He’s being receptive. Not as defiant as he is publicly.” “He’s gone from saying, ‘Kamala can’t win,’ to ‘Do you think Kamala can win? “ the adviser said. “It’s still unclear where he’s going to land but seems to be listening. www.yahoo.com/news/moment-biden-one-democratic-adviser-011511205.html
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seaexplore
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Apr 25, 2015 23:57:30 GMT
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 18, 2024 3:32:39 GMT
Me too Biden, me too.
Hope he gets over it soon!
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Post by FrozenPea on Jul 18, 2024 5:00:13 GMT
Decision? President Joe Biden is the nominee and will not change. So what he has Covid. Did you see him trying to get up the steps into the airplane. I bet he doesn’t have a mild case of Covid. We’re screwed with whoever gets elected. He has severe arthritis in both knees. Going up stairs is extremely painful. And with being sick probably worse. I know that when I get sick my arthritis is worse. He wasn't coughing or wheezing from what I saw. Praying that it is mild and he will be fine.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 18, 2024 5:23:10 GMT
I had COVID last week for the third time. Vaxxed and boosted but this strain was the worst I had it. Terrible fever and chills and to say I was exhausted is an understatement. Beyond fatigued. It lasted about 5 days, but honestly the fatigue was terrible. I think this strain is hard hitting and extremely contagious. I hope Biden feels better soon.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 18, 2024 11:08:53 GMT
Well, let me preface this to say, I WONT vote for Trump and his VP puck is even worse imo
But, it occurred to me, that the longer ‘they’ wait to make a change ( if a change is going to be made ) the less time Trump has to verbally bash them, less time he has to have his fixers dig into their lives to destroy them. Especially if it’s not the VP who he’s already been bashing.
The issue is, is there anyone younger, healthy, that everyone likes and that undecided bigots will vote for?
I don’t know.
Meanwhile I keep looking at the declared candidates for NJ governor next year and the Dems have several really qualified great candidates I could be happy with nearly all of them( only 1 I don’t like ) . But that won’t help much if the US is fascist.
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3boysnme
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Post by 3boysnme on Jul 18, 2024 11:27:52 GMT
I have no problem voting for VP Harris as the next President. And if she is going up against trump, she has a fairly good chance. Hillary beat him in the popular vote, just not the electoral vote. But even that was close. He certainly didn't run away with the election. He barely made it.
Since he ran back in 2016, his popularity has dropped. Yes, he still has the rabid support of clueless fucks who want to take the country back to the 1950s, and know that trump is malleable enough to do that. However, I really believe that there are more who are disillusioned with him. If it comes down to the President having to step down, I feel the more rational people would get behind the Vice President. I just don't know how many really rational people there are out there. Some will never vote trump, but may not vote for VP Harris or vote at all. And that could be disastrous.
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peppermintpatty
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jul 18, 2024 11:36:50 GMT
I will echo the sentiment, So What?
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Post by lisae on Jul 18, 2024 11:44:28 GMT
The issue is, is there anyone younger, healthy, that everyone likes and that undecided bigots will vote for? The Democrats have a great 'bench' of electable candidates. As on NYTimes commenter put it, Joe Biden is the one Democrat who can't beat Donald Trump. Biden was losing before the debate and any chance he had of getting reelected ended with the debate performance. Republican PACs will air clips from that debate over and over from the convention to election day. The only President in modern history to come back from bad polling numbers at this stage and win was George W. Bush in 2004. Biden's situation looks a lot more like Carter and George H.W. Bush who both lost relections. The only chance we have of keeping Trump from winning and hanging onto the Senate is to replace Biden.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 18, 2024 12:05:57 GMT
Me too Biden, me too. Hope he gets over it soon! I hope you both have mild cases and are feeling much better soon!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 18, 2024 12:10:15 GMT
The issue is, is there anyone younger, healthy, that everyone likes and that undecided bigots will vote for? The Democrats have a great 'bench' of electable candidates. As on NYTimes commenter put it, Joe Biden is the one Democrat who can't beat Donald Trump. Biden was losing before the debate and any chance he had of getting reelected ended with the debate performance. Republican PACs will air clips from that debate over and over from the convention to election day. The only President in modern history to come back from bad polling numbers at this stage and win was George W. Bush in 2004. Biden's situation looks a lot more like Carter and George H.W. Bush who both lost relections. The only chance we have of keeping Trump from winning and hanging onto the Senate is to replace Biden. I don’t know how representative it is, but a huge majority of the comments I see on social media and what I hear people saying in person is that they will vote for Biden despite thinking he is too old. I think it is interesting that the republicans have never been pressured to replace Trump. Surely if so many thought Biden was unfit any of their other candidates would fare better than Trump. He has a a strong following but there are a LOT of never trumpers and others who want “anyone younger”.
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amom23
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Jun 27, 2014 12:39:18 GMT
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Post by amom23 on Jul 18, 2024 12:55:47 GMT
Everyone needs to stop the doom and gloom over Joe Biden. Get out and vote blue!
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Post by lisae on Jul 18, 2024 13:15:31 GMT
I don’t know how representative it is, but a huge majority of the comments I see on social media and what I hear people saying in person is that they will vote for Biden despite thinking he is too old. I believe that anyone who is going to vote for Biden will still vote for him. I think they would also vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is. The issue is the large number of undecided voters. Do you really think that people who aren't committed now are going to vote for an 81 year old when they are blasted with repeated images of his frailty? He has a good record but he isn't up to the task of defending it and the duties of the presidency at the same time. There are many people who think he isn't up to the duties of the presidency. I disagree. I think he can easily finish his current term but I don't believe he can win over undecided voters and turn this around. One or two polls might be wrong but all of them??? He was far ahead in the polls throughout 2020 and it was still close in swing states in the end. Trump did better than polls in both 2016 and 2020. There's no reason to believe that he will suddenly start performing worse - in some cases as much as 5 points worse this year.
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 18, 2024 13:30:04 GMT
I don’t know how representative it is, but a huge majority of the comments I see on social media and what I hear people saying in person is that they will vote for Biden despite thinking he is too old. That's not data. He's down in the polls and sinking.
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